June 07...........the one where they discover they have a mind of their own; and aren't afraid to use it

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oops last thread got to big!

that's one cycle, obviously.

Oh Natty, so sorry. But hopefully it'll mean you avoid the D/C. I can only imagine how you might feel but from what I know of you, you'll get through this and I will keep everything crossed for the future for you.

Don't you just love parents? When mine were last here my Dad needed a pair of socks, so I lent him some of course. I was just expecting to pick them up when we next visted, but my Mum posted them back to me (ironed!) only she underpaid the postage by 15p so I had to pay £1.15 to receive her parcel

thanks daisy.
right now i dont want to try but i know in a few weeks i will want to, like last time, so im just preparing myself now.
ive got an apointment for a scan tomorrow now, so im hoping everything is ok

Natty, you are one brave lady, hope the worst is over for you. Take care.

bless your mum jammy.

I am back for a bit. I tidied the kitchen, they we had lunch so it's a mess again. DH is still having his 1/2 hour nap. Similarities between him and DSS again I am going out to film club in half an hour. I have made WW oat biscuits this week as the group leader is doing WW. My dads response was "they're nice once you've got your teeth through them"

did anyone else see this? didn't pingu post on here a while ago?

Jamlet has been miserable all morning. She is now napping though I am having 5 and then am going to tackle the hell hole off the kitchen utility room and change the cat litter.

christmas appeal

Natty, I'm so sorry you are going through this Why don't you give yourself a bit of a break and some time to heal body and soul? I admire your determination, but you don't have to do this right now, do you?

I might be completely talking out of my arse, and I am so sorry if I am, but you strike me as very focussed and strong in your determination but also quite fragile?

foxy i am very fragile, but my way of dealing with things has always been to patch over my issues with something positive. so when i miscarried last time i concieved staight away, so the pain was delt with by putting happy news over the top (new baby iuswim)
but the downside to it is, now that ive lost this baby im dealing with double grief as i never dealt with it in the first place, i just displaced my feelings.
so now im thinking about concieving again, as its the only way i know of moving on. maybe i should take a step back.

and im currently on my sofa with my duvet and a bowel of frosted wheats lol!

I think you are right Natty

Take a step back.

You know you will have more children. That baby will come. You are young, you need to be healthy and well.

I just think you need to heal first. Mind, body and soul.

Weren't you thinking about moving too?

natty, I agree with foxy about taking a step back; especially with DHs health to deal with as well.

and give yourself time to grieve; as you have realised patching it over only delays the inevitable. Take it easy, be kind to yourself and the family and have a few months off from ttc. you will be much better prepared and relaxed. And remember that time is very much still on your side

Finally got DD off to sleep ....so am I doing houseowrk? Am I feck. I'm sitting here wishing I had chocolate.

we have already moved. problem is we are now in a 3 bed, which we arnt entitled to now we arent having our third baby. so i dont know where we stand money wise now, we may have to move again now

Is it local authority or housing association? Either way, plenty of people live in (or for that matter sub-let illegally) places they shouldn't have. Don't add that to your 'things to worry about list'.

I don't mean you 'shouldn't have'. I mean there are people who are not entitled to places (technically or otherwise) who still have them. I don't mean you 'shouldn't have' your house, I mean there are people who absolutely are not entitled but still have them and do not seem to be chased up, so you should not worry about your 'technical entitlement'. You are more entitled than many people who benefit from social housing IYSWIM.

Clear as mud?

natty, you have a boy and a girl, so at some point would need a three bed anyway. Don't worry about it.

we private rent as we were told a 7 year wait for a 3 bed, so while we are on the list for a three bed, we are actually not entitled to enough housing benefit now we are no longer expecting our third.
about as clear as mud myslf lol

Natty, try not to let housing worries get to you (easier said than done I know). I think Foxy and Daisy are right and that a little time out would be good for you, emotionally and physically, all round. But you must do what you feel is right, of course.

Well, I've done all the chores I can. The last ones are in Jamlet's room and she's asleep. This is the calm before the storm though. Madness starts about 4pm tonight, when jamlet and I have an early tea, then pop off to the dentists (via the charity shops to drop a load off), meet DH at 5 as he comes out of hygienists, he takes jamlet home, I go in for my appointment. I'll then get home from that about 6 and have a quick bath, then at 6.30 I put jamlet to bed, while DH takes a work call for an hour. Meanwhile I go out at 7. With me so far? Tomorrow my ILs arrive by 11 to look after Jamlet while I take a 3 hour work call from 11.15. In the afternoon we go to the official opening of our new improved children's centre, then DH is on a work jolly in the evening, so I entertain his parents. On Friday morning I am at work for a special workshop, so ILs babysit, then when I get home at 2pm I can relax as we go into free flow mode from then on. Phew! Right, now that that's all clear in my head I'd better go as Jamlet has just woken up.

good luck jammy!

I think (with no experience) I would agree with foxy & daisy about giving yourself a break Natty, even if just as you said earlier so you have no additional worries over xmas. of course that is easy for me to say as I can only imagine how you feel. I wouldn't worry too much about housing either.

good evening girlys.. where have u all gone?
i cleaned my kitchen today, using SO many chemical products i had been banned from by dh, very theraputic!
Ellen has been very clingy today, been stamping her feet alot as well... she is a bit of a madam atm!

seriously.. where are u all?

hey natty....if you are still about.

I have been trying to sort out a problem with my Nov lot secret stork as one lucky lady got two presents and then lurking on the troll threads which I totally missed earlier.

And .......Oh the shame! My HV popped over earlier with virgil's red book. At the time I has pooter open and was on the phone, ignoring DD who was trying to hang onto the windowsill for dear life as DS was trying to prise her fingers off the new curtains . Not only that there was the usual day of detritus scattered all over the floors (I usually wait till DCs in bed before clearing it all away). she dismissed all this with a wave of the hand and was really nice but I feel like a very unfilt mother. and of course as we were chatting, DD who was bodding about, came through from the kitchen with a ramekin of jam that had been our continental breakfast and was still on the table and was tipping it in her mouth....then she brought a plate with half a croissant on it. Oh, the shame, the shame the shame . She even had the gall to ask me how I was getting on with DH being away in the week. All I could do was just wave my hand over the house as a whole.

Ah well, at least I'll have given the HV team something to laugh about over their tea break tomorrow

lol daisy, i felt that way too. im the same i dont clean tilll they are in bed, because its like shovelling snow in a snowstorm!

and yeah im lurking, i actually laughed at something on the tv today, and it felt really good. DH says its the first smile he has seen since saturday

Natty, glad you found the cleaning therapeutic and what was it that made you laugh? (Sorry, I'm a nosey parker!)

glad to hear that natty.

funny how a messy house never scares away the Jehovas Witnesses daisy!

my parents are being hounded by thugs banging on their windows at night