June 2008- Some are sleeping, others weeping and some are just eating

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Thought I'd start the new thread using paro's suggestion

DD slept with us until she was one but that was more due to being busy with guests and her room in the annexe wasn't ready, she has now been down there for nearly 18 months quite happily, Sebastian will probably do the same and they will share a room next summer until we can trust edie to get up quietly (she is pretty good now) and then she can move upstairs with us (compicated layout)

Weaning - I am thinking pureed papaya on the beach for Sebastian In November

Oh and just got back from seeing Mama Mia again and have persuaded DH to come with me on Wednesday

Congratulaions Paro

Hello all! Back from the wedding in Dorset and also an overnight stay in Lichfield. Was amazed to find 4 pages so I skimmed through.

Won't add anything on weight or length because Iestyn is still teeny. But as you know, Amber, I'm convinced he has a huge head.

So, to get me on the thread and to cheer everyone up, my funny story from the wedding...

The wedding was a family friend, he's a doctor down in south Wales now. I saw DH chatting to a guy after the service, and thought he looked familiar, but then quite a lot of people at the wedding did. DH called me over, and asked whether I recognised the guy. The guy said he had seen me and couldn't quite place where he had met me...until it finally dawned on him that it was at work...yes, indeed, the man is an anaesthetist, and he GAVE ME MY EPIDURAL!!! To make matters worse, I had threatened him at the time, and he remembered that too... .

He had seen everything...

He was sitting on the next table to me as well!

Oh God, oh God oh God!!!

amber i know what you mean about the dream feedd - DH did ours too, but tbh, he got pretty stressy doing it as S would faff so much and need loads of winding, so it didn't feel like a rest for me at all as I'd end up having to take over/ calm him down! Why shouldn't your DH do the 6am feed anyway? Presumably he has to get up for work soon after?
Interesting to hear what you say re the reflex. Storm's has gone and she is swallowing her baby rice pretty easily - so hopefully we're doing the right thing.

It is hard tho... After libra's post earlier I ended up doing more research due to increased paranoia . I found guidance that babies digestive system and kidneys can take up to 17 weeks to mature fully, hence the four months guidance. So, had a talk with DH about it, and we've decided to stick with it.
My reasoning is that I feel it would be clear if she was having digestive problems - when we gave her formula made from cow's milk she immediately became screamy in the evening and had terrible wind. It was almost as bad before I gave up dairy. We've had nothing like that with the rice (organix mixed with EBM) so am taking that as a good sign.

debs it's interesting what you say about judging people. before I had S I had very strong views about natural birth/ BF/ FF/ cloth nappies etc etc. Now I'm in the reality of it I'm not convinced that there is a 'right way', only a right way for you/ your LO. For all the 'breast is best' stuff, for example, there are babies in our group who are clearly doing much better on formula than they were when BF. And when I had my CS I was so relieved to get my spinal block I was practically crying!

sponge Interested to hear your comments re size - I guess you're right! S was so much bigger the massage lady thought she was six months old! She is long, so that might be why it seemed more obvious.

udc glad work went well - am thinking about taking S in this month to meet the gang.

poppy i don't blame you for stressing, but i'm sure it'll be fine.

paro meant to say, I loved your pix of fleur reading the baby book! Of all the books I've got it's the one that S seems most inclined to follow, but she changes her mind often enough . I remember reading the routine for one month when S was about a week old and thinking 'nappy free kick? I can barely feed and settle her - when the f* am I supposed to fit that in!?'

sorry essie - xposted. OMG - you poor thing! Am sure you'll laugh about it eventually...

Thanks for that story before bed Essie - LOL, you'll never flounce will you? I'd miss your stories/escapades!!

Thanks for the comments LL - no idea about the swimpants - they were donated and can't remember the label

Udc - great news about your trip into work - well done

Poppy - I can see your concerns but have no solutions - sorry. I like to look in on Ethan in the night when he mumbles and moves around, he's still right next to me in his basket!!

Laura - sounds like you had a lovely time - creche at wedding, what a great idea.

pureed papaya - now you're just showing off Sophie

off to bed, leaving dh up to watch the tennis , night all

thanks for all your comments re work. Makes me feel very brave - as well as getting on the train with pram at rush hour!

essie, pmsl, that is ridiculous!

sophie, pureed papaya - where are you going on hols., you glamourpuss!

greenfairy, i was sure you'd be doing your research properly - and interesting what you say about there being a right way for everyone too. Are you going to stick to baby rice until she's 17 weeks or venture onto pear, etc?

Laura, glad the trip was good. It must have been fun staying with Sophie. You weren't at the same wedding as Essie and her anaesthetist, were you?

Re sleeping alone / in your room, it is supposed to be something to do with them being able to hear your breathing and also parents noticing if they've got their bed clothes pulled over their mouths, etc. It makes me so paranoid and I try not to think about, but she sleeps in a different room so I do have D in a Gro-bag, and periodically check on her. I've also heard that smoking/ sleeping on their front and overheating are far more significant.

Have a good day everyone. I've got the mouse catcher coming from Wandsworth council. What a day to look forward to!

Hi all,

Whinegums I meant to say sorry about your job, although at least you know now and not further down the line when you have B settled in nursery etc and I'm sure you will find something even better.

Essie LOL did he look a bit scared!

GF Don't worry, you know Storm best. I weaned ds early and then worried a lot about it. You are right about parenthood making the lines more blurred, I used to watch friends with kids and think when I'm a parent I won't do X etc Now I think as a parent you do what you have to, everyone just muddles through and makes the decisions that are best for their child.

Amberc Saw these nappicovas online, might be better than the swim nappies as I think you keep the nappy on underneath.

www.born2becool.com/Pages/childrens_wetsuits.html

Poppy I hate to think too much about cot death, Mia has been in her own room since she was 3 weeks, my theory being she napped for longer during the day than she went at night! I do know a couple who lost a baby to cot death and the baby did sleep in their room.
sponge does that not mean they are better in their own room? or was your hv talking rubbish.

katyjo, my HV is happy for me to move Alex into his own room, it was my friend's HV that gave her a hard time. I'm the one who's too scared! The bedclothes thing worries me cos Alex kicks his sheets off but won't sleep in a grobag so not sure what to do about it.

Sponge - if he gets cold in the night put him in one of those fleecy all in ones , so you won't need the blankets or grobag.

Hi all

UDC good luck with the mouse-catcher! Glad your trip to work went well. Personally the thought of going into work horrifies me but then I hate my job

Essie that's hilarious!

A also has the sandpaper rash. The cream is helping a bit

Argh it's raining again!

Hello all,

Not much time for a long post.

weaning DD1 was weaned at 4 months as those where the guidelines at the time, dd2 was also weaned at the same time in the hope of getting more sleep - it didn't work. With ds I am going to wait as long as possible as like a couple of other I'm too lazy. He's also a big baby, will get him weighed this week but at 11 weeks he was 14lbs 6oz so as he is growing so well with mith milk he doesn't need solids. I will keep getting his weighted checked though to make sure he's not failing to grow.

Paro Congratulations!! The venue looks lovely and is quite near us. DP and I aren't married despite being together for 9 years, I want to get married in Las Vegas but DP will feel guilty as he know his parents will be very disapointed in us not ahaving a big wedding. Neither of us will change our minds!

Sponge agree with Debs fleece all in ones are fab for keeping babies warm at night.

Morning all, and thanks for messages about my job. I really am fine about it, because the organisation appears to be in such a mess, and my job is PR/fundraising/marketing, which isn't a great one to do when it's all going tits up. Also, got a phone call from an old colleague/chum this morning to ask me if I could recommend someone to do marketing for their organisation - good timing or what! - so we are going to have a chat.

Poppy, Amber and Allnew - B has also had skin rash, I've been using E45 on him and Neals Yard baby balm at night, which seems to help.

Amber, I know how you feel about reading about all the other babies sleeping through. B wakes for a feed during the night, but then falls asleep once he's taken a little, and I cannot wake him again to have more, so we go through it all again about 2 hours later - he was going for approx 4 hours before. I can only hope that he soon won't need his night time snacks at all.

Well done on the going to work front Ucake.

Poppy, I have the Tommee Tippee monitor with sensor, even though B is still in a crib next to our bed. I really like it.

Laura, glad you had a good time at Sophie's and the wedding. B's big boy trousers are a little too big for him right now, but he'll look smashing in them soon. He has to impress Charlotte and Mia next time, after crapping himself on Friday after all .

Essie, hilarious re your anaesthetist. At least he didn't say he didn't recognise you with your clothes on.

Does anyone know what happened to the Indian summer we were all hoping for?

thanks for all the tips re sleeping - she is in a grobag and i'm always checking plus we don't smoke so have done all I can..tbh I think there is no easy route here -I think its the same with all the weaning..

long day ahead here as edie got my cold and is very grizzly..

x posts whinegums will look into monitor...good news re job op for you

We decided to miss the dream feed last night and luke woke at 1050 anyway! he then woke at 3 and 5 so i am completely exhausted again. Might be a bit quiet tomorrow london ladies . still going to see stevie wonder on thurs at o2 and am soooo excited. hope i don't fall asleep.

katyjo, thanks but does anyone think that there is anything that will stop a great big runny baby poo from coming out of the sides? maybe that with the wetsuit on top?

Morbid post alert - re what room babies sleep in etc - if you are fast asleep in bed and your baby stops breathing, what difference does it make if they are in a crib in your room or in another room - you won't hear. That's why I have a monitor so within 20 seconds I can be there giving CPR. Sorry to be grim but that's the honest truth. I thought about how I would feel if anything happened to Luke and I seriously would be suicidal so I will buy any contraption that might help to save his life should he need it (and please god that never happens). Morbid post over.

Amber, that's why I have a sensor mat too .

Thanks for the tips on the fleeces. In terms of him kicking his sheets/blankets off, what I'm worried about is more that he kicks them over his head and suffocates himself . Is this possible? How can I stop him doing it? Do I just put him in a fleece and forget the sheets and blankets anyway?

amber am with you re theory..think will get a monitor now ... having lost one baby its not an experience I'd wish to repeat . BTW what monitor do you use - it was an angelcare?

not much tips on runnybaby poo ... apart from giving him to someone else if it does leak in the pool so they think he is their baby

sponge it is possible but I'd say VERY unlikely - its why I use a grobag - have you tried that? also if you fold them right down and tuck them in plus use foot to foot method I'd have thought it VERY unlikely would get over his head - plus they're getting strong enough to fight way out so the risk is diminishing I think a they get older.

am so sorry as have started off a right morbid line of thought....

yes just put him in warm fleecy babygrow and socks amd lay him on the cot.

where did you get your fleecy babygro amber -have only got the bog standard cotton ones?

don't think we were at the same wedding Essie... were we?! I didn't spot any babies with welsh accented crying!

amber -did you say you'd got a swimming costume thingy like this for luke