June 2008- Some are sleeping, others weeping and some are just eating

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Thought I'd start the new thread using paro's suggestion

udc paro anyone else who answered my q

Thanks for your thoughts on storm's sleeping. It's funny. I was so used to her waking in the night that her not sleeping in the day is bothering me more - even though she's now getting a full night's sleep (and as a result I am too).

It's worse this morning as she's now not settling for her morning nap (DH currently 'on duty'). I don't know what to do. All the usual tricks aren't working and she's getting stressed and I am too. ARG!

Hi to all the rest of you. No time for proper responses due to the probs we're having here, but just wanted to say paro re weaning, that I would trust your instincts. I don't see how a blanket guideline can apply to all babies when they are individuals with different needs. I just assumed I'd BF storm exclusively til 6 months, but I realised fairly quickly there was no way I'd be able to satisfy her that way for that long. I'm glad to be giving her rice. If anything, I suspect she needs more and that's why she's not settling, but we'll see... Good luck!

I've not mentioned how good Adele is for fear of getting a brick thrown at me But the last 4 days she has cried non stop all day unless she's picked up. She won't settle for naps, so she's desperately tired too. Tell me it's a growth spurt and just a phase please!

So GF and all others - mucho sympathy & empathy from me.

re weaning - I personally wouldn't so early. Not at 3 months. I'm dreadinghaving to start at 6 months frankly, but then I am a lazy cow.

Ernest sympathies on A needing all day attention. We have the occasional day like this and it's so wearing. Every time you go to do something, you hear the crying and it's like Groundhog day every time. Hopefully it's just a blip!

aberdeen sorry to hear about your lack of sleep. I think it just seems like everyone else's babies are sleeping through. A certainly isn't, and I thank my lucky stars when he manages 3 hour sleeps in the night. Hopefully we will both get there eventually!

pp well done on the weight loss

amber I know what you mean about buying lo clothes instead of yourself. I keep thinking I want to have something new to wear myself, but there really is no point until I lose some weight, so like you I spend on A instead

whinegums how's the colic? A is definitely still suffering, and each time he's having scream attack I think I must book him into cranial osteopathy but haven't done it yet. Might do that today

Well that's it. PFB safely delivered to school for his first 'day'.

Peace and quiet in the house as Luke is asleep in his pram in the garden so I have some 'me' time.

Now what to do. Housework , sleep or sit on the sofa and watch a video in peace . Oh and catch up on MN. No brainer really.

ll.. am you even mentiond housework...

Did he go off OK LIBRA PP well done on weight loss, it is slowly coming off here as well.

Clothes - I have had loads lent to me by a friend and just brough some more second hand off here is much the cheaper way until they are in clothes that should last them a while, Basil is already stretching his 3-6 month baby gros.

Weaning - we weaned DD at 20 weeks nearly 21, she was showing so much interest in food and was grabbing, we only started her on pureed vegetables a couple of teaspoons a day for 2 weeks and then added another meal, we didn't do baby rice at all and also no meat until she was 6 months, we also learnt pretty quickly not to cook with salt and blitzed whatever was left over from our meal to freeze for her.

Hi 5gomad,

Yes he went off merrily when he name was called and didn't even glance back at me let alone give me a hug and a kiss goodbye like he used to at pre-school.

There were women there in full blown floods of tears and their children couldn't have cared less.

I'll admit I did have tears in my eyes, but only when my friend next to me looked at me and I said are you alright when I saw she had tears rolling down her face. I'm afraid I came out in sympathy with her.

Mind you walking away with Luke I couldn't believe the number of parents still walking to the school with the LOs. Wouldn't have thought it would make a good impression being late on their first day. By this time DS1 had gone into his class and the headteacher had explained the process to us parents re picking up, I'd had a chat with some of the other parents and I was a 5 minute walk away from the school by then.
Now if it was 8:50 which is the time the school starts in the morning, I could understand as mornings are hectic with more than one child, but 12:30pm .

But then again, I don't know their circumstances, and I'm one for being punctual rather than late. Always have been.

OMG the turbo has gone on my car and it's going to be around £1000 to fix!

allnew Ouch!

Just uploaded some pictures of DS1 in his school uniform before he went off today if anyone is interested.

allnew, poor you yikes

ll aww he looks so cute and grown up

Good morning

Not much time to post this am as off to the beach but ....

Welcome back 5 go mad
Hope things get better soon AH, please come back when you are ready and feel you can xxx

Grrr at husbands!!

Thanks for weaning views, was just wondering what you all thought, im gonna see what Fleur does next month but she starts nursery in Nov and will be 5 mths then so really wanted to start when i had proper time to sit with her and do it myself calmly and take time to enjoy it . When i go back to work i will be more stressed.

Well off now! but have updated blog with piccies and also have adopted a new approach to routines (as she has decided to ignore books that say 2hr sleep in am, eat every 4 hrs and sleep through the night) Approach to routines

Paro I was thinking of weaning Luke at 4 months too as he doesn't drink the volume of milk he should at his age and I thought he might be better off with more concentrated calories (that could be pure bollox and I probably just want to make steamed mush recipes). How did the absent dream feed go? Very curious as when I wake up Luke for his at 11 he is sparko and I wonder if he would still wake up at 3/4 without it.

PP Yes I will be able to make London meet ups as I'll be in Chislehurst in Kent which is 20 mins to Charing Cross

All DPs/DHs - they all have their moments. Mine's being really good at the mo but every now and then mentions the fact he's got to go to work which infuraiates me but probably 'cos I'm jealous of being at home all day bored shitless.

Today I am so tired I actually feel physically sick.

ll how cute is ds and he looks so proud...

amber chislehurst v.nice -grew up not too far from there but on other side of london now (still feel bit like fish out of water here). big hugs for you re tiredness -and you're not the only one who has lost it at dh re mentioning work whilst we're doing the baby routine - I don't miss the work work but I will now appreciate being able to get and drink a coffee when I want one in a whole new way when I go back

paro your logic sounds very sensible re weaning pre nursery starting.

allnew .. poor you re car -how long will it take to fix?

V.proud as managed to get edie to nap on her blanket (is anyone else tryign to get a nap routine that doesn't revolve around the cot)... as I've said below she does love to settle on me/dh and its given her the most dreadful heat/irritation rash.. have stopped wearing anything perfumed etc but rash still there

afternooon all, Have tried to catch up but so much has happened since yesterday

UDC 'boys' are all DH male mates (since infant school)

Am stocking up on 3 -6 and Isaac should be wearing the sleepsuits now as his feet are too long for the current ones, but I don't want him looking all little again

Swimming this morning was fab, he looked so cute in his little wetsuit and loved splashing and kicking around, then fell asleep in the coffee shop

Maybe we should try a DH/DP swap as mine seems to be in the same vein as everyone else's - He has been at work and doesn't think that being at home with a baby all day is hard work

allnew Cars are sooo expensive, just got DH's car tax renewal. my MOT is due next month.

No comments on the weaning - was having a convo with my Grandmother who told me that weaning guidelines in her days were 16lb rather than an age guideline which does seem like a good idea. I like the idea of introducing Isaac to his first solids on Christmas Day as he will be 6 months then and will see if I can hold out that long. NCT do run weaning classes for anyone confused, I have already been invited to 2, might be worth checking out for those of you not sure

All of you with LO off to school hope you have all coped ok, Can't even imagine Isaac being that old at the moment, don't want to think of my little boy becoming all grown up
Right be back later, nappies have just finished in the wash

Paro I would say that makes sense, be warned though that they do it very little for the first few weeks.

Allnew poor you, tis a bugger when cars go wrong.

Well we now have a business account and a card machine is winging its way to us so hopefully that will be an end to all the dramas.

Amber Sebastian is drinking less than it says on the tin and putting on weight, so it could be 4 months or later,weaning is very much done when they are aware of you eating and showing interest in food. We also tried to do a dreamfeed for him at 11 to see if he would go through but he wouldn't take this so we gave up and he has now naturally settled to a 7 pm 9 pm and then sleeps through until 6.

Allnew/Amber - I buy scarfs, jewellery and shoes. All safe purchases that won't make me cry in changing rooms! And I still remember being pregnant and not being able to buy shoes because of my swollen feet and cankles.

Allnew - Re: turbo - Ouch!

Amber - How tall will Luke grown if you give him solids!? Sorry that you're so shattered.

Libralady - Deffo choose MN. However there was a thread about keeping on top of housekeeping a few weeks back, I went on it hoping for magic two sec solution. I was amazed to find this an online coach to encourage you to keep yur house clean! WTF!?
Great pic of DS1 BTW! What does PFB stand for?

Paro - Love the approach to routines.

Weaning - I am in no rush to start whatsoever, but can I ask why everyone says to wait until 6 months? I keep hearing that "new evidence" says not to start before 6ms, but when I asked my HV she couldn't tell me what the new evidence was or why weaning before then would be bad... I'm concious that in theory Ryder will have a lot of changes at 6 months (I'll be going back to work, moving into his own room, starting solids...) and I'll probably want to spread those changes out from 5-7 months. However Ryder will be 6ms on 23/12/2008 and I do love the idea of him having his first non milk meal when we have Xmas dinner. (The sad face is for me cos I know I'm being sad, but I don't care!). Ha ha - just seen that HH had the same idea!

Poppy - Getting coffee, having a lunchbreak, commuting, adult conversation....!

PP - pfb is precious first born..and also guiltily admit missing commute for ipod/book reading time....

HHdidn't realise we shared birthdays..and also with you and pp on unrealistic idea of xmas weaning... but know I'll have to fight dh not to do it before then

on same theme as advice re weaning pre 6 months and where is the evidence, what is actual evidence on being in their own room/cot death... am interested on what stats are on cot death if all other things are followed (ie foot to foot, no smoking etC).. sorry this is really stressing me this one

I suspect that Ebay may not be the place to offload DPs/DHs. Mine has buggered off fishing again...

Aberdeen Hiker, if you're reading this, I do hope things get better for you soon, and hope to see you back.

Sophie, glad you're back.

Katyjo, second what you say about lack of adult company when DHs/DPs are away. I also miss a bit of time to have a decent soak in the bath. Ended up taking B into the bathroom last night in his bouncy chair. Partially successful...

Ernest/Libra - do you think blokes realise when they are being so crap?? Mine has to have it pointed out. Sort of like training a dog - reward good behaviour...

Penguin, well done on the healthy eating, 5lbs is excellent! I'm not ready to give up the cakes yet. Or all the other stuff that I shouldn't really be eating.

Allnew - I do think the colic is definitely getting better. The screaming doesn't last as long now, and we have some nights with very little. We have tried Infacol - thought it was useless - probiotic/prebiotic - definite improvement - Dentinox - certainly helped - colocynth granules - seems to help. Would be interested to hear how you get on with the cranial osteopathy, so let me know. Ouch at the car repair!

Poppy, I don't put B to nap in his cradle during the day at all - he either sleeps on the sofa (we have one of those with a chaise longue-y bit, which is his hang out) I lie him diagonally so no risk of him falling, in case he suddenly learns to roll over - in his chair or his swing. In fact, I left him with his Dad for a few hours today, and he was asleep in his car seat when I got back, apparently the only place he would settle!!! I don't try and get him to sleep during the day though, I let him crash when he is ready. I can usually tell when that is from the glazed look in his eyes.

Hedgehog, interesting re weaning according to size rather than age. TBH, I haven't even thought about it at all yet, but B is just about the youngest on this thread, so most of you are well ahead of us.

Got the boy his first pair of jeans today from Baby Gap - bless! Laura, you gave me a hankering to go there after Friday.

Well, I went into work today, and I am being made redundant after all. All new recruitment has been stopped - huge funding gaps at my organisation. Very worrying. To be honest, now that I've calmed down, I'm okay about it - the way things are, not sure if I want to work there. Am a bit pissed off that I won't get the full mat pay package, and will have to look for a job. Would have been so much easier and nicer to have had my year off and go back part time. But the state of the organisation is very scary, so probably better off in the long run to go somewhere else, and I have the time to look for another job now.

Sorry for long post! Thanks for reading if you got this far.

whinegums so sorry to hear about your job - although I suppose it must be a relief to know one way or another a Pita re maternity pay and looking for a new one ..

and thanks for cheering me up re the cot thing...personally my hunch is not to get her too fixed on sleeping in one place -the diagonal tip is a good one as thought we might have to abandon the big wide sofa in the kitchen she likes to sleep on...

haven't tried cranial osteopathy but nct friend did and reckoned it did improve things a bit -although she thought it did need two goes to do it. TBH having had it myself (and I'm quite into alternative nonsense) I'm a bit as its the one treatment that I didnt really see much benefit in -although that may be cos the practitioner was a bit offenseive (DON'T tell a desperate woman who has just had 2 nasty m/c that there is something wrong with her womb -for one she may suspect that and for two its not what she wants to hear)... hence why I'm a bit about it

Sounds like may be a bit of a flooded market in used dh/dp on ebay tonight

Hi all

Finally got S to settle after another feed and she's now out for her walk with DH after her lunch. Hope to goodness she sleeps again as her afternoon naps are the only time I get to myself until her bedtime.

allnew sorry to hear re the car - yikes

ll lovely pix!

ernest thanks for the sympathies - sorry you are having probs with adele but hopefully it's just a phase - how old is she now? Also, re DH leaving you to do everything and then moaning you take too long to get ready, my DH does exactly the same thing - as I reminded him last time he whinged. He also keeps trying to make precise appointments to see family etc, and gets annoyed when I can't say exactly when S will have finished feeding/ sleeping/ be ready etc.

amber dare you try not waking luke for his dream feed? In the 3 weeks since I stopped setting alarms for 11 and 3/4 to feed S she's gone from sleeping up to four hours in one go (between those two feeds) to sleeping eight to ten hours in a night easily. Despite all my moaning she's now sleeping through from about 9/10 to about 7/8. Which is unbelievable for easing the tiredness, as you can imagine. Hope you have a better day tomorrow - sending virtual chocolate.

pp we done re weight loss - v good! I now weigh LESS than I did before I was pg - in fast the least for about three years, so am very pleased. Even if it has been achieved by three hour BF marathons and pure exhaustion

re weaning well, we're on day three of baby rice once a day and S really does love it. She gets all excited when we put the bib on her, bless. She is huge (at least 15lbs) and v hungry, so it makes sense for us. But she is 14 weeks, so a little older than many LOs on the thread. It's still early, going on the guidelines, but have decided to be guided by her, rather than the "rules" - when we eat she stares and makes 'put in mouth' gestures. She now gets more excited when she sees DH as he's the one who feeds her.

sorry poppy xposted. Am at that practitioner. What a stupid bitch. No wonder you weren't impressed!

Forgot to say, one of my best friends told me she's two months PG last week! V excited for her. She's had a rough year with her DH but they've sorted things out and decided as their relationship was going through a 'renaissance' now was the time to try. Woo!

Thanks all for sympathies re. car. Hopefully it will be fixed by Wednesday. though as I wanted to go to the Newbies tomorrow at the cinema (haven't been yet and wanted to try it out). Obviously this is of minor consequency compared to the cost!

whinegums glad to hear the colic is getting a bit better. Sorry about your job - what a bummer.I hope you're able to find something suitable

Re. weaning, it only seems a minute ago that we were all pregnant! My mat leave seems to be going to quickly. I'm loving being off work, but I hate my job!

PP I have no chance of keeping my house clean. Turned the hoover on earlier and A screamed in horror

ambermeant to say we've stopped waking edie for dreamfeed -has made no dfiference to her sleeping through as far as I can see..only time she did start waking earlier was when she missed one of her usual daytime feeds.

tgf think going with what your baby wants is good advice - and s clearly not complaining! Also last time I looked at healthy way dsd was eating (who was early weaned) were no problems.

nice news for your friend - am still surprised I didn't say something to woman at the time -think I was so taken aback I couldnt

weaning advice

TGF I don't want to be opening a can of worms here, but don't you think 14 weeks is a little early to be weaning? There could be implications further on down the line. I know you have been having mammoth feeding sessions with S, so clearly not getting enough milk is not the answer. What does your HV say? The gestures I am assuming are putting her hands in her mouth but at this age they are just discovering their hands and quite often put them in their mouths as well as their feet .