June 2008- Some are sleeping, others weeping and some are just eating

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Thought I'd start the new thread using paro's suggestion

Only 20 mins of crying for nap today - it's working!!! Plus I have definitely hardened up since I last tried. So glad to post something positive at last.

amber glad last night was better for you. It was also an improvement here - A slept 5.5 hours for the first time ever

HH sorry to hear about your grandad. Hopefully they will be able to use some of his organs, as that can be a great comfort to family afterwards

greenfairy A also needs more sleep about an hour after getting up in the morning (nice life being a baby!)

Amberc That's really good, glad ur getting a goodnights sleep now, night nanny sounds fantastic!

Ernest I don't know all the details but my next door neighbour had gh inj, he was a twin and was quite a lot smaller than his brother. I have seen him recently and he is now as big if not bigger than his twin, so I guess the inj must have been successful. Sorry I don't know more details. Good luck for next thurs.

My mum has taken ds swimming and Mia is sleeping so I'm going to go jump in the shower and enjoy my morning with just one lo!

Hedgehog Sorry to hear about your grandad. I wouldn't worry about not using a monitor, my mum things they stop both of you (mum and baby) sleeping properly and I would probably agree. They are also totally addictive as we still use one for ds and he's two!

HH, sorry to hear about your granddad. I would 2nd what katyjo said about monitors - I know parents who didn't use them at all and they are horribly addictive.

Amber, fantastic news about Luke's sleeping - you must feel like a new woman this morning. I haven't even begun to crack the daytime napping thing with Alex yet .

Ernest, sorry to hear about the worries over your DS. Hope you get some more conclusive results from a 2nd opinion.

Laura, good to see you over on the SCD thread - nice to see a fellow fan!

Hedgehog - sorry about the loss of your Grandad, if there isn't a funeral maybe you'll be able to get together with family and celebrate his life.

amber excellent breakthrough re the sleep and the cc - fantastic news! and re leaving him to resettle - this is what i started doing with storm. if you can keep at it do - at first when storm was sleeping through she had major periods of stirring at about midnight and 4am, when she would have previously been feeding and it was really hard to leave her. but i just ignored her and she never woke and now she doesn't stir as much as before. i think also that leaving them to resettle makes it easier for them to go to sleep on their own as they learn how to do it.
these days when i wake up in the morning i normally find storm pretty wide awake in the cot next to me and happily just lying there looking at her mobile, even though she's not fed for nearly 12 hours...
have you read about the core night theory? this is basically that you don't feed them in periods they regularly sleep through and use other methods to resettle them if they wake up. i did feed storm once at about 4,30am when she woke up absolutely starving - it would have been mean not to, but now her sleep has progressed so rapidly that i probably wouldn't feed her between 9pm and 7am unless it was an extreme situation. if she wakes up before 7am i just take my time changing her nappy and make sure she doesn't get any food before then - she's learning fast - today she slept in till 8!

ernest i hope the treatment works but can understand your cynicism...

allnew storm slept again today just after an hour after waking - alright for some!

hh i wouldn't worry about not using a monitor. we do use one, but if it broke i probably wouldn't bother getting another. re the cost, you could get one from ebay, or try freecycle? we gave one away on freecycle before storm was born because we were given two - wish i'd known you wanted one.

TGF - not getting too excited as that was the first time ever but funny how it coincided with the controlled crying. He's napping now and cried for 30 mins with me going in after 5, 10 and 15 mins. I can put up with that and I ate my lunch during the crying so didn't even notice that much once I'd turned down the monitor .

Ernest - how old is DS and what weight? Is he not big for his age or not putting on weight consistently?

HH - loads of breathing monitors on ebay. About £20 should get you one plus P&P

Great news Amber - you must feel so much better

I am typing on here listening to Ethan crying in his cot, I was walking round with him whilst the dishwasher repair man was here and he was drifting off to sleep(Ethan not the DW man) so I've put him in his cot and he's bawling the house down, ds2 just said "isn't someone going to get poor Ethan?"

quietening down - thought that was it but no...

anyway dishwasher has been out of action for at least a week, stuck in the middle of the kitchen , dh has tried everything he could think of, at last the repair man came, turned it on and it worked straight away without him fixing anything - can you believe that?I am just again that it's working before the tv people next week!!

Luke slept for 45 mins exactly and is now bawling so I have settled him and will wait for 5 mins and see what happens. Anticipate still crying and will need to do the 10 mins too at least! Watching a prog on Sky Anytime about the science of babies in their first year and wonder if it'll give me any pointers!

A is having a massive sleep just now - must try to keep him awake for the rest of the day or I'll have a hard night ahead!

Just thought I'd share with you that, fingers crossed, A seems to be feeding more these days (if you remember was fussing terribly during the day when feeding). I've just managed to express 5oz! (I know this may not seem much to some of you, but I've only been able to express like 2oz previously due to A's feeding patterns!). Now I can go to yoga on Sat and leave enough milk (funny how these little achievements are so exciting these days!)

greenfairy that's interesting what you say about feeding/sleeping. When A was thrashing around last night 1.5 hours after a feed I just left him and he went back to sleep, whereas previously I think I was lifting him for a feed each time he stirred

debs hope Ethan goes to sleep!

ooooh - he's settled himself. Blimey Gina Ford I take everything back.

There's a lesson for us all. Sometimes when they are fussing in the night they aren't hungry and will go back to sleep again. Seems so obvious as we do it all the time - why has it taken me 13 weeks to realise - doh!

Well done Amber - that's what we did with Edie and now Sebastian ( I am really sorry I didn't mention it)

Second jabs have been OK and he is now sleeping.

Ernest good luck with house and DS3.

Debs - sorry I giggled over your washing machine.

HH _ Sorry about your grandfather.

And yipee the Campbestival lot want the house again next July so we get a paid holiday again.

good lord, off for a day and there's tons to read!
greenfairy - my email is fairey25 at yahoo dot com, get in touch and we'll arrange a meet.
amber - liking what your doing with the sleep training, good to know that luke settled after his 45mins. isla keeps waking after 45mins and really needs more, will try leaving her tomorrow. also will try what gf says about the nightime stirrings if i have the strength!
sorry for quick post. mums here for a visit and we're off out for tea feeling a lot better than on mon now.
sorry lack of capitals, one handed typing x

amber allnew that's brilliant. i do wish i'd stopped waking storm up in the night sooner - i'd bet she would have slept through. still, better late than never.

she does lose the plot in the evenings these days tho - gets really tired and settling her by walking her in the pram is the only thing that really works as she gets so cross.

five was camp bestival really good? my pal was saying it was excellent. want to go next year - do you think it's feasible with a one year old?

deb hope ethan calmed down...

Oh yes, alot easier then a manic 2 yera old just get a good all terrain pram (Or borrow one)

Amber that's fantastic - so you nearly had a full night's sleep!? And only 20ms cc for the nap, that's great. Good luck for tonight.

Ryder has his 2nd set of jabs tomorrow. His first lot were fine, so fingers crossed these go ok too.

Ernest - at 'camping'.

HH - I'll be ebaying for the monitor. Much cheaper. BTW I've sent you an email re: 2m.

Greenfairy - I may follow your lead on the not feeding btw 9pm and 7am, although I'll probably start from 9pm - 5am and extend it slowly. Ryder used to sleep thru no problem and altho I know I'm very lucky in that he usually only wakes once during the night, I do know that he is capable of sleeping thru so it would be nice to have that back.

5gomad - Great news re: bestival. I'm thinking we should rent our house out to some over enthusiastic americans (or similar) for Wimbledon fortnight next year and go away for a holiday using the profit. Just got to find out how to go about it....

my doula's neighbour rented her house to roger federer!

re nighttime stirrings, we have settled her with water a couple of times ...

PP - try for it, it is a nice feeling knowing that you are actually getting a holiday but it is not costing you anything.

Just a quick, but urgent, post re: sensor mats.

I was just showing my mum and dad how ours works as we're supposed to be going out tonight (1st night out since A was born). To our horror we realised that our sensor mat wasn't working properly and was still registering breathing even when Alex wasn't in his cot! This has really upset me and scared the crap out of me . I will be on the phone to tommee tippee first thing to register a strong complaint (that sounds so lame when what I actually want to do is beat seven shades of c*p out of the person who made this thing and sold it to me for 'reassurance' when it doesn't fcking work ).

What dh reckons has happened is that because we adjusted it to high sensitivity (to avoid another false alarm) the mat is registering our mattress as baby weight. The thought that we could have been sleeping in our beds thinking everything was fine . . .

It makes me feel really sick just thinking about it .

If you have one please check it tonight before you put LO to bed.

Amber, what was the link for your sensor mat again? Think I will be buying one of those tomorrow.

OMG Sponge! That is terrifying....

HH so sorry to hear about your grandad

re breathing monitors I know I've posted about this before but I've still not got one - the reason being dh not a fan (mainly for the reasons spongeset out - for you) -he follows the same logic of whoever it was that said wasn't sure that its main function isnt to add to paranoia

seem to be going backwards here..very unsettled evenings and not very settled days (albeit she is sleeping through at night)..not sure whether to leave it (may be growth phase) or try and sleep train

Sponge that is worrying, especially as you obviously get a great deal of comfort from it. I had never heard of sensor mats until people on this thread talked about them, obviously not around when ds1 was born, but I do wonder if these things make you more nervous in a strange way. But then, I keep babies in my bedroom until they are around 9 months to make sure on the cotdeath front so I am obviously not one to talk!

J had second jabs today and has been miserable all day. His feeding is still appalling so I am not convinced by the osteopathy, but I did really like the woman we saw so am prepared to give it at least one more go. I also feel a bit worried now about his stuck joint!