June 2008- Some are sleeping, others weeping and some are just eating

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Thought I'd start the new thread using paro's suggestion

sybil hope it does help.. must admit that sounds odd (everytime I read about you guys going to the osteopath think maybe we should but then I think back to my own experience and think erm.. No farking way).

katyjo you're a mindreader -inspired by *hh (I think) am starting to do xmas planning and wanted some of these for dh (lest hope doesnt read this post )

amberc good luck re nursery -am putting off starting to look for a nany (but not planning on going back til next march) -must sort the agency (am too cowardly to find one myself for first time).

Sybil, hope the osteopathy helps. Do you have to go back for more sessions?

Poppy, hmmm, am thinking it may be teeth - or at least mini-pegs moving around - as she screams when I touch her lower gums.

Sophie, glad you got pre-school sorted. It sounds ideal for Edie!

Just been to the Newbies and was very proud of A for letting me watch the whole film!

amber A doesn't fall asleep on his own accord either. During the day, my methods are either going for a walk with him in the pram, feeding him on my knee and popping him into his basket when he falls asleep, or putting him in the sling (wrap sling). I used the sling in the cinema this morning and it worked a treat. I know it's not ideal that he can't just go off to sleep when tired, but he's such a nightmare when overtired that I always revert to these methods

Re. nursery, the waiting lists round here are long - managed just about to get A into the one I want by registering last Jan

sybil hope the osteopath works for you, I'd be interested to hear what you think

wish there was a newbies round here..

amber must admit I use all news methods a lot of the time for getting edie to sleep - I roughly know when it'll be so can prepare pretty much

Please can someone come and rescue me! Currently pinned under 16lbs of baby who will only sleep nose down on my shoulder. I need coffee and cake urgently.

poppy some cinemas let you take in babies in any showing 12A, U or PG. So if you think edie could be quiet you could take her into a normal showing? TBH even when they whinge a bit, you can't really here it over the film anyway (unless they scream of course!)

oh alipalli that's so annoying when you're in need of a cup of tea and can't move! Or when you've just made one and they wake up needing attention! Do you have a sling you could use?(obviously not right now!)

More good news, this seems to be our day, Sebastians Godfather is not being sent to Iraq so will be flying in from Germany for the weekend of his christening.

Allipali - I feel for you.

thanks allnew and five. Its quite cute really and I am ideally positioned for kissing the top of his head. I think he exhausted himself with the excitement of baby bounce and rhyme at the library this morning. Since falling asleep in the middle of 60 babies he has either been asleep or screaming for food. We do have a carrier rather than a sling so its not as nuturing as a sling might be.

Right, going to attempt - again - to put him down.

yay freedom! Coffee and cake now being eaten, emergency over.

oh allipalli sympathy... only just escaped myself - and it gives her such lovely heat rash too

Katyjo - those cufflinks are a bit pricey!! Nie idea though thanks. Have decided to pay for night nanny to come three hours early and then for an adults only dinner. Night nanny will do the night feeds too so we can have a few sherbets!

You've scared me with discussions about nannies and nurseries. La la la...I'm not listening!

Amber and Allnew as you can tell from earlier post, Peter doesn't settle in the day in any kind of text book way. TGF and someone else (sorry can't remember who) thanks for the re-assurance about feeding to sleep being okay. I read somewhere that BF releases oxytocin which induces sleep in both you and the baby therefore its what is biologically meant to happen. Not sure if this is true, but its comforting at least. I am also reminding myself of what Katyjo's Dad said to her about there being worse things in life than holding a baby.

Essie still needing BF pads so assume supply has not settled down here. Makes sense as I would not describe Peter as settled and its got to follow from the baby. Agree with you that TT ones are superior (Lansinoh are the same just in smaller boxes). DH not impressed that the most expensive are my breast pads of choice though. He keeps telling me that Johnsons are just as good. How does he know? It's not as though he is the one lactating all night.

I have to say that I am beginning to get a bit sick of the smell of breast milk hanging around. Is anyone else finding this?

Alipali - 16lb!!!!!!!!! I thought Luke was heavy. Actually have no idea what weight he is. 11 weeks 14.5 and is now 13 weeks. Fairly sure he won't bw 16lbs though!!

Havong a mare with nurseries. There just aren't any in Greenwich. Going to look at ones close to work. Might start back at work in the new year. Will be 2 months early but need some mental stimulation! Is anyone else thinking of going back early?

nope - going back later than I thought ... mainly as pissed off with what was doing (prob don't remember my rant re work just before I had her) - so in no hurry - but am meeting my lovely old boss to discuss new opportunites in a couple of weeks. What was the one you looked at this afternoon like amber?

haven't got madam weighed either but might have to brave the clinic - she weed on me and the scales when tried to do so at home today (she is about 14 pounds I think)

The nursery was nothing special - three different bits for different ages 0-18 months, 18-36 months and then all the others. Was nice but nothing out of the ordinary. There is one in Canary Wharf which is bells and whistles. That one for a full time place is £1450 pm!!! Guess it's meant for banking folk but it's right next to Lehman brothers so I imagine a few kids will be leaving fairly soon. My DP used to work at Lehmans - thankfully his new company bought out all his stock as part of the joining package. I feel so sorry for them all. Hopefully they've been saving and not binging on champers and fast cars!

Hmmm, that Canary wharf brothers one is the price of all nurseries in Wandsworth. I think it's cheaper to have a nanny than to have two at nursery - but then you miss out on all the sociability aspects ...

OMG - what must people be earning to afford full time childcare? £1450

Ernest - nice to "see you", have a good time in CH, how is ds3?

Allipalli and everyone else - Ethan doesn't regularly nap in the day either. More often than not he goes down after a feed, but sleeps so rarely in the day. After he's been awake a couple of hours I put him in his cot awake if I can but it doesn't usually work. Today had a feed at 3.45 am, then slept through until 7.45, then was awake until 1.00 pm, when he had about 30 minutes, then he had another 45 minutes at 4.00, then bed at about 8 ish. Surely they need more sleep than this in 24 hours?

Sorry all missed you today.

Isaac slept for the first time in his cot last night and then he had his 2nd set of jabs today, then I left him with DH as I had a guide meeting. Got back and he was sound asleep in the cot again although he has been dosed with calpol.

Am thinking that I am not a good mum now as we have no form of baby monitor or sensor even though he is now in his own room, but cannot afford one at the moment.

Thanks for knitting link, will check it out later on.

Re supply - thought mine had settled but as I have been expressing everyday (since Sat) have got a bit fuller and more painfull, but have been expressing in the evening then having a glass of wine to chill out.

Esp needed as last night heard my Grandfather had passed away, he was ill but it was still a shock and now appears there may not even be a funeral as he left his body to medical science - although we are not sure whether they will take it due to the number of illnesses he had.

Evening all

five thanks for the pointer re tiktok

essie got 3oz again this morning - if I can get it down to 2oz it will be manageable I think. Am trying to express a little less each day. Re boobs shrinking, mine are 'normal' sized apart from first thing.

the sleep is a joy, and i must confess almost worth the mastitis! but it does bloody hurt this time, and am having to take ibuprofen when i feed

libra what happened?!

alipalli the oxytocin thing makes sense - i often find it impossible to do anything but stare at storm when am BF.

debs storm didn't sleep much for ages either but now i try to give her the chance to get 14/15 hours. it's almost like the more she sleeps the better she sleeps. also, now i use a blackout blind when she's sleeping in the cot and she sleeps much better.

amber you poor woman. don't know if any of this helps really, but i generally feed storm to sleep when she goes to bed at night and for her long morning sleep. then i hold her upright and walk around a bit for about seven to ten mins and then put her in her cot, which is dropside and attached to our bed - she normally wakes up when i put her in, or at least stirs - i tell her 'it's sleepy time, go to sleep now' in a soft voice. i used to then lie down in our bed, basically next to her, for about 15 mins till she stopped stirring, but have recently started to pat her a bit and then leave the room - i do this for her long morning sleep (3 hours) and when she goes to bed at night - she may cry a little but stops after a few minutes. i give her two more naps of 30 to 60 mins during the rest of the day and normally just take her out in the pram, although she often falls asleep on my lap first, as trying to get her to settle for short naps is harder.
have you considered trying to put him down earlier? sometimes storm is ready for sleep again an hour to an hour and a half after getting up in the morning. maybe he's getting overtired and that's why he's getting wound up? forgive me if i'm wrong and butting in too much!

HH sorry - x posted - really sorry to hear about your grandfather - even when it's expected nothing really prepares you. [sending hugs]

at cost of nursery in London - that's about double the cost of one in Glasgow - I guess there has to be compensation for the terrible weather here!

today was a great day - no vomiting!!

alipalli and essie TT breast pads were half price in tesco last week - not sure if the offer is still on. had been using Lansinoh, but am enraged at the fact that they individually wrap them - worse than Morrisons which I avoid shopping in because they do the same with peppers!

The asda special offers on big stuff like strollers etc aren't online, can't remember who was going to look? Annoyingly, the high chair doesn't seem to be in store any where either - I've been in 4 over the last 2 days (obsessive I know, but I kept thinking, the next store is bound to have one!)

KatyJo - Great cufflinks, but bit too expensive for me to treat DH. Esp with redundancy looming, it could be worse, I could work for Lehman Bros!

AliPalli - Glad you escaped. Hope you enjoyed your coffee and cake. Thank you for the reminder of KatyJo's Dad's words of wisdom. I agree re the oxytocin, I definitely feel myself chill out when feeding.

Amber - I researched childcare whilst pregnant and a nanny share worked out the same price or cheaper than Wimbledon nurseries. Now he's here I think DH will look after him when I go back to work, which will probably be in January. I'd love to take some more time off, maybe even the whole year, but financially we can't afford it ATM. For the first time last week I thought that I'd quite like to be a F/T SAHM.

Boots do large luxury breast pads but they're rubbish. I need to try he TT ones. I don't like the reusables much, as much as I have tried for eco reasons, they're just heavy and wet when I wake up in the morning.

LauraT - Ryder is vomiting now! Not reflux, but definite vomiting up to two hours later. Has anyone else had this? He's been crying a bit more too, but I think that's because I've been pretty unsettled. (Esp as he was fine with DH when I went out this evening). It was me looking at Asda online...and you're right, I couldn't find much! Will need to go to the store then.

Hedgehog - Sorry about your Grandad.

HH so sorry to hear about your grandfather - it's very sad when someone dies even if you were expecting it. I hope he gets his wish of leaving his body to science - I'd like to do that as I've never understood people wanting to have ashes or going to graves. It would be much nicer to have a lovely rememberence do (religious or non) and a party afterwards so everyone could get drunk and talk about the funny/embarrassing things you'd done.

TGF - thanks for the advice. We did however have a breakthrough last night. Our night nanny told us to give him his 11/11.30 feed and let him have what he wants (he always has 120 ml). Then burp him and change his nappy so he wakes up a bit and then give him the rest (which he took). He then slept till 6.15!!! He stirred at 4.30 and I was about to go and feed him but I thought I wonder what would happen if I just left him - and he just went back to sleep. Maybe that's where I was going wrong.

Anyway back onto controlled crying now. He's going mental upstairs as we speak for his 8am nap.

hh, sorry to hear about your grandad, and also the uncertainty about the funeral, hope you all get to say goodbye xx

good luck with all those starting 2nd round of jabs

Deb ta for asking looks like we'll be starting ds3 on growth hormone therapy next week, tho they've told us he has normal/high levels of growth hormone, but very little growth factor. But his tests have been sent off to another specialist, but may take another coupkle of months before get results. Whatever the problem, it seems to be quite rare, and at 1st we were told treatment likely to be straightforward & successful, now looks much more complicated & less chance of success. Giving GH when he isn't GH deficient smacks of clutching at straws to me, but anyway, we go next Thursday to discuss.

Now need to pack for CH, including airbeds & sleeping bags, as we'll be 'camping' in our empty house.

Enjoy day everyone, see yas next week