APRIL 2008 - The One Where We Step Away From The Psycho Pill and Try Not To Need Pregnancy Tests!!!

[VictorianSqualor]

Our Babies

07 March: Ashton, a fourth child for gemprincess, 5lb 13oz @ 34+6
09 March: Ted, a second DS for Daftmoo, 7lb 14oz @ 36+0
21 March: George William, a first baby for KnitterintheNW, 7lb 2.5oz @ 37+3
25 March: Olivia, a second baby for TheMaskedPoster, 7lb 2oz @ 38+4
28 March: Pablo, a third baby and first DS for vacaloca, 7lb 14oz @ 39+4
28 March: Matteo Alexander, a first baby for Gangle @ 38+0 (?)
30 March: A baby girl, a second child for PortAndLemon, 8lb 15oz @ 39+5
02 April: Jak, a baby boy for rainbowdays, 9lb @ 39+1
02 April: A baby boy, a second child for bunyanvillas, 6lb 14oz @ 37+5
02April: Struan, a baby boy for Donnabels, 6lbs 15oz
02 April: A baby boy for mummyofaprincess @39 weeks
03 April: A baby girl for PippiCalzelunghe @38+2weeks
03 April: Aeryn Daisy, a baby girl for Denny185, 9lb 8oz @ 39+3
03 April: Benjamin, a baby boy for Micegg, 8lb 3oz @ 39+4
03 April: Roelof Grové, a first DS for SalLikesCoffee, 7lb 5oz @ 38+5
03 April: A baby boy for siikibam, 6lb 8.5oz @39+1wks
04 April: Matilda, a baby girl for AprilsFoolsBaby 7lb @
05 April: Ellis, a baby girl for MadameOvary
06 April: Henry Peter, a baby boy for Sheds, 7lb 130z @ 40+4
07 April: Sebastian George, a fourth DS for Peachy, 8lb 4oz @ 41+1
07 April: Jack, a first baby for ThePFJ, 7lb 5.5oz @ 41+1
07 April: Lexie Bea, a fourth baby for babywhiting, 8lb 1oz @ 39+4
08 April: Alasdair, a second DS for bunnyrabbit, 8lb 5.5oz @ 40+3
08 April: James Samuel, a third baby for honeybee10, 6lb 7oz @ 37+2
09 April: Zara Mia Martin, a first baby for V1KK1M, 7lb 10oz @ 41+0
09 April: Jasmine, a baby gilr for Niceychops
11 April: Kyran for rdk, 7lb 13oz @ 38+3weeks
11 April: Sebastian James, a second baby for Fleecy, 10lb 2oz @ 40+4
11 April: A baby girl, a first baby for CeylonSapphire, 7lb 12oz @ 41+1
11th April: Florence, a baby girl for LouMoose
12 April: Maya Alice, a first baby for egyptianprincess, 8lb 15.5oz @ 40+3
12 April: Sophia Viviana, a second DD for AussieDivaonaBreak, 6lb 12oz @ 39+3
15 April: Alexander Oliver, a third baby for VictorianSqualor, 10lb 3oz @ 41+0
16 April: Ailish, a first baby for Mollyfloss, 6lb 11oz @ 40+3
16 April: A baby girl, a second baby for elfsmummy, 7lb 13oz @ 41+1
16 April: Zoe, a baby girl, a first baby for ToastAddict, 6lb 10oz @ 39+3
16 April: Jasmin, a baby girl, a first baby for Eggandketchup, 9lb 3oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy for paranoidmumy, 8lb 9oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy, a second son for lorisparkle, 7lb 12.5oz @ 41+6
17 April: Benedict, first baby for LadyBee 9 lb 3oz @ 41 +2
18 April: Millie, a baby girl for scorpio1 8lb 9oz @ 41+?
18 April: Cameron, a second baby for munchkinmum @ 39+5
19 April: Oliver Michael, first baby for bashboid, 7 lb 4 oz at 41 +3
20 April: Samuel, a first baby for Velbels. 8lb15oz at 41+1weeks.
20 April: Angharad Mai, 8lb 4oz, 40+6, first for 7monthsplus
20 April: Emilia, 7lb15oz, a first baby for SuzeM, 40+6
20 April: A baby girl for SushiMama
21 April: Eve, a second baby for OMaLittle, 8lb 4oz @ 39+3
21 April: A second DD for Monmoo
22 April: Sam, a second son for Soph73 @ 40+0
22 April: Molly, a first baby for EllieG, 8lb 8oz? @ 40+5
22 April: Daisy, second baby for AttilaTheHan @ 40 +3
22 April: Zoe Olivia, second daughter for Piccallilli2 7lb 1oz @42+1
22 April: A second DD for blinks.
23 April: Jessica Elizabeth, first baby for BabyBratt @ 40+1 7lb 12oz.
24 April: A baby girl, a second daughter for christmaspixie, 9lb 2oz @ 40+6/41+5
24 April: Miya Jade, baby girl for ShelleySare at 39+4
25 April: Amelie, a first baby for Dondons, 9lb, 41+3 (i think!)
25 April: Aisha, a second baby for Jaq39 7lb 14oz @ 41+4
26 April: Hope Olivia, a second dd for northeastmummy, 7lb 11oz at 41 .
26 April: Gabriel, a third child for Bainmarie @ 41+5
26 April: Eli Michael, a baby boy for LittleMissTurquoise, 7lb 15.5oz @ 40+5
27 April: a baby girl for Ayomi, 6lb 1oz @ 41+0
28 April: Jacob Andrew, a 2nd DS for Kaybeeand2boys, 8lb 4oz @ 41+5
29 April: Thomas Henry, a 2nd DS for TLSM, 7lb 8oz 40+3
30 April: Harry Samuel, a fourth ds for Chipmonkey, 9lb 5oz @ 39+2
30 April: Ellie, a baby girl for Annamama
30 April: A second DD for luckymummy74
01 May: Sophie May, a baby grl for Annieroo, 6lb 5oz @ 41+4
01 May: Euan George, a baby boy for Jenniejennie, 8lb @ 40+4
02 May: Robyn Olivia, a baby girl for soph28, 8lb 1oz @ 42+1
05 May: Nora Martina, a first baby for Eva07, 7lb 8oz @ 41+2
05 May: A baby boy for Beeper, 8lb 10oz @ 41+0
05 May: Gabriella Summer, a first baby for MommyHasAHeadache, 8lb 4oz @ 40+6
06 May: Wilf, 8lb 60z for bigbadmom @ 41+6
07 May: James Andrew, a second ds for Moominsmummy, 8lb 13oz @ 41+5
08 May: Ellie Isabella, a first baby for Carey87, 7 lb 8oz @ 42+1
08 May: Robin David, a 2nd baby for Woollymummy, 8lb 11 oz @ 41+3
09 May: 4 kittens for scorpio's cat!
10 May: Astrid Mary, a second dd for sagitta, 8lb 8oz @ 42+0

Rofl Ellie!

OMG!!

He slept from about 8:45 (when he was finally settled) to

Oh, also, babies have a sleep pattern of 45 minutes, so if they don't get 45 minutes they are not suitably refreshed, so if the nap lasts less than that you are meant to get them back to sleep.

If a baby is not getting enough day sleep they get fatigued, which means they find it hard to go back into another sleep cycle after the first one, hence why Alex was waking up every 45 minutes.

Hi well done VS, and glad you found the thread, I've been reading the book but kept getting distracted yesterday so couldn't write advice.
I follow that 2 hrs max awake time and it really seems to work for Benedict. I've also started doing a feed before bath and then another after before doing quiet wind-down stuff and into bed, which gives him a chance to get really full, but also stay awake long enough to get burps out. Before I was doing feed, bath, book/cuddle, bed, but he wouldn't settle (still hungry) and I'd end up feeding him to sleep, which would mean he'd wake after 30 mins crying with wind.

I have a question about feeding in the mornings. I'm not sure whether this is still related to him having a cough, but for a while now Benedict has been bringing up what looks like the entire feed after his first feed in the morning. This mornings I'd definitely describe as projectile vomiting, he was still lying down and it came out in a big spurt and reached the wall behind me.
He normally wakes at 6:30, gets his nappy changed and I feed him around 6:45-7.
I just wondered whether I should wait a bit longer after he's woken up before feeding him, maybe to give his system a bit of a chance to get ready? I don't know what's going on..that's all I can think of.
He seems perfectly happy, I just wondered if maybe he needs a chance to get a bit hungry before his tum can cope with the big feed.
I'm waking up engorged, so feel quite keen to feed (he's been sleeping through the last 4-5 days now, fingers crossed it continues), I would have thought he'd be hungry when awakes but maybe I'm feeding him too early.
Any ideas?

Too much in one go? If your engorged prob milk a plenty with faster let down maybe just too much for him to cope with. Could you try in stages, feed for 5 mins, stop wash bum/change nappy, feed for 5 mins, stop and get changed, feed for 5 mins stop and have chat etc

sad

O Peachy, I hope one of the boys has moved it and it turns up 4 u.

Glad ur night was better VS

Peachy, I'm so sorry to hear that! I know you said unlikely, but could it by any chance have fallen out? (Grasping at straws I know.) for you.

Good to hear your new system is working so well, VS.

Ladybee, I'm sure it wasn't funny at the time, but I laughed at the "hitting the wall" comment, hehe. Let no-one say B isn't powerful!

Quiet morning here. R woke up his normal 12, 3/4 and just after 6, but dh has been doing them all, and let me sleep until after 10!!! He has to go away for work in a week (only couple of days though), and not only will I miss him, I'll also miss all the support he gives with R - he's doing so much, I know I'm spoilt.

bas's robe

sal- it was you looking?- poshtotsonline.co.uk had lots of nice outfits? so did jackanory (websie addy forgotten but search jackanory cwmbran_ they're near us though so f you swa anything in there I could check it out for you?

try again!

Peachy, thanks so much for that! When is Bas's baptism again?

There are some beautiful gowns and outfits on there. Thanks also for the offer to check - that's very kind and much appreciated. But as my mom will be making it for me, website pic should be fine, I just want to get a picture of something I really like. She makes evening dresses etc a lot, so should be able to do it from a photo.

I think I'll try the small feedings - if I can prise him off, he's very determined these days, I don't actually latch him on he just lunges and goes for it.

Might also get up and express first, while DP does the nappy change and has a little chat. I think this might mean it takes a bit longer for my supply to get used to the lack of night feedings but as there are no guarantees he'll stick with it I'd don't mind having a bit of oversupply...hopefully if there's another growth spurt it'll help me cope as well

Ok, another from LadyBee's book of 1001 random baby questions:
How long do babies like using those door bouncer things for? I mean, up to what sort of age? We don't have one and I've been thinking about getting one to give me another option for entertaining him, as I do sometimes feel like its groundhog day as we rotate through nap, feed, playgym/floor/bouncy chair several times a day when I don't go out. Also, he doesn't seem that comfortable in his bouncy chair as he seems to want to sit more upright and strains against the recline a lot.

Usually till they are cruising round furniture or they exceed the weight limit on it. Didnt Sal manage to buy 2 on e-bay?

DS loved his but DD2 not v keen, but then she is a bit of a lazy lump so not surprised really.

Sal, you've been thanked

Peachy, sorry 'bout your camera. What a bugger. Some people are just shitty.

Glad you had a better night with DS VS.

I am still arguing with DH about best way to get DD to bed - I do a version of PUPD unless she is in one of her 'I am going to scream if you pick me up' moods, and seems to work. He lets her cry and pats/picks up every 5 mins. Personally, I think her screaming can be avoided if you just do a bit more cuddling at the beginning. She is just not very good at getting herself off to sleep, and I would rather teach her gradually. BUT - I appreciate he is doing it his way and I must not moan or he will not do it. And he doesn't put her to bed every night so I guess she is not going to be psychologically harmed by it.

Is funny though - every night I wish and wish I had a break from putting her to bed, but when I do, I sit here listening to the monitor and feeling guilty and sad for not being with her.

Am going to turn off monitor and have some gin. Is my night off tonight should bloody well enjoy it!

I thought door bouncers were not recommended? Not sure why mind.

My mate has a thing called a jumperoo though, and her kiddies love it.

Thanks for that link Ladybee, am all cheered up and now.

Re door bouncer - sorry, if I knew I would have given you one, but I've passed the second one on to a friend. There are loads on ebay if you're interested. Loads, honestly, ending 2 minutes apart .

Ellie, I think you might be right, I've heard somewhere (way before ds) something in that line, but tried searching before I bought mine, and couldn't find the reason again. I'm trying to persuade myself that 15 minutes once per day can't do too much harm. Hope I'm right. What I do know is that it is very important that they need to crawl, so "walkers" are bad for them as it means they skip part of the development - it also teaches them to walk incorrectly (on their toes). Crawling also needed for good hand-eye coordination and if not it can lead to learning difficulties. Not sure if some of these reasons overlap with a bouncer.

iirc it was something to do with bone development, but ok if limited? bas ardl uses his tbh

Christening is Oct 12th, have ordered invites but going to get cake (and prepared food, for once i just cant be arsed) from M&S ordering service

hmmm, maybe I'll just keep Benedict on the floor..he's happy enough there, it's just me getting bored. Besides, he's sooooo far away from crawling he needs all the help he can get

I have just had a chocolate icecream and brownie sundae.
I am never going to lose weight. I have no self-discipline

Your Christening sounds lovely, Peachy. I know it's not for everyone, but it's always been such a special day in my family. M&S sounds perfect - since nothing like that in my home town, my poor mom has to do the outfit, cake, etc etc. I'll help with the actual work, but she's really good with the finer points (I'm rubbish).

Ladybee, I'm never going to lose weight either. And to make matters worse, I don't actually think I care. I've just finished TWO magnums... Double caramel and almond. I wish I could feel guilty, but I now only feel a bit nauseos (sp?? - too lazy to look it up).

2 in a row, well done Sal

The issue with door bouncers/walkers is the encouragement of a toe walking gait in little ones. TBH I think it started becoming a problem when some lazy mums would put their children in for the best part of the day. I use them (but wont say too loudly incase my friend whos a paed physio hears) but for v limited time (max 15 mins) and generally only a couple of times a week.

Denny, I'm so glad you've said this, as I was a bit concerned I'm missing something vital and ruining Roelof's development! It is great though for when you have that quick shower (obviously I have him playing on the bathroom door then) or when I have to finish some piece of work or make an urgent call but don't want to leave him bored out of his mind crying on the floor!

It gives them another view on life, just not too much of a good thing and all that. DS loved time on his feet but DD2 so far really not bothered and theres not much room in the door bouncer already as shes quite long of body.

two magnums - that's excellent Sal, it's never occurred to me that it was possible to eat more than one

Just had some friends over for tea and scones (homemade, by me!) and a natter. It was the first time 2 of them had seen Benedict, but I feel ok about it, we didn't see a lot of each other before I was pregnant but it's always lovely to catch up properly when we do.

DP is giving DS his bath, and the house is looking quite tidy after our sweep around pre-friends, so I feel very chilled. Nice feeling

All three of mine have loved their bouncers and none of them have had issues with it.
I probably use A's every other day(?) he won't spend more than half hour in it without getting pissed though.

Had a lovely dinner today cooked by MiL, we went there for dinner, and DP left me in bed til 10:30am today

Alex's naps seem to really be working, same pattern last night as the night before...

I'm off to the shop in a sec to get some wine and chocolate and am going to watch wife swap then braveheart in bed