December 2006- where they've grown so much we spend more time talking about our lives than our children

[Indith]

Well that and our pregnancies and other non-dec '06 children

Tis a good thing I feel.

lol, castles - I'm the perfect one in my house

AQ, am so glad you posted before me - don't think I could have resisted worrying about you

How are you feeling, though?

Relationships...I'm sorry the going is tough atm, Jabber and Castles. We're mostly ok, but when we're not it sort of does affect me in a chronic, underlying sort of way which is tiring and depressing - I hate those times. I can also see that now that our family is complete, and the kids are mostly sleeping well, its time for us to haul our marriage out from under dust sheets and see how its doing....scary thought! Been no real time or energy for it for years. Bit like your therapist said, Jabber, in need of weeding!

Mind you, dh is a couple therapist, but of course that doesn't make any difference!

I've killed the thread. Too many late night exclamation marks.

I'm here Eli! Just don't have anything much to say. Which isn't like me at all ...

Phew!

Not with ref. to the nothing to say bit, but to your presence

But...ahem.......where is NONONOIPROMISEDNOTTOPESTERHERBUTOGODITSHARD!

Now you've killed the thread with capitals!!!

My MIL has just rung twice to 'check' on me. She has rung every day (at least) since I had BH's a few weeks ago. If dp or I don't ring her back she'll panic, so I suppose I'd best do it then arggggghhhh. In fact even dp is starting to get anxious and annoy me and my mum is more fluttery than usual asking whether she should cancel things.

I'm here now and then Eli but I don't have anything to say either

Hang in there AQ. Thing's can only get better. My motto, in case you hadn't already realised! Yes, children do react to our moods. I witnessed DD1 say "move" to one of her classmates this am. Wonder where she got that one from . I'm a totally crap mother at the best of times but I try to have as much 'fun' with mine and try not to be the bossy ole mother figure. It doesn't have to be anything expensive like daytrips to legoland, just stuff like larking about together - dressing up, funny voices, etc. I am very good at this (having a mental age of 6 and 3 quarters helps) and my DCs are in stitches most of the time. I know it's hard when you are about to produce twins. I'm completely exhausted and I don't have your excuse. God, I'm rambling, just trying to lend your a shoulder from way down south.

My DF is a shocking parent now but as a child he was the bees knees as he was such a laugh (when he was there) and never got cross. My DM was forever yelling and screaming at us and never ever played with us or had fun with us. Guess which parent had all the respect?

COD's thread about talking to children so they listen is, as usual, excellent and succinct. EV - where are you, we need a link?!!!

Aha, Castles, see, you do have something to say after all

And well said too, re the playing/having fun (my Dad much better at that than my Mum, relate).

I do totally remember the misery of late pg and LO needing attention and the tiredness and short fuse - and I was not pg with twins, nor did I have 2 LOs, so tbh AQ I think if you can just hang in there (as if you ahd a choice!) you're doing just fine! Your Mum sounds highly useful as well as nice

Hurrah for the gone impaction, fingers crossed for non-regression...dd1 regressed around food/table manners, not toilet related at all, but its impossible to predict.

Cod's how to talk thread I'm in this one so easy to find

You are a marvel EV

AQ, I am short tempered at times with DD at the moment - I know its the hormones but knowing doesn't help. Can't imagine what it is like with two to look after so you are bound to be getting emotional over things. The awful bit at the end of pregnancy is really awful, but it will be over soon. At least you are close to the end - things can only get worse here!!

Right, off to make tea.

I have been hormonal right throughout this pg, Lennied, I know what you mean.

Castles, you're absolutely right, I found myself being really bossy with ds1 yesterday and it only led to hell really. DP and I could both use a bit more fun with both of them, we seem to spend far too much time saying 'right, it's time for....'.

Had a stretch and sweep today from consultant after 2 hours at the hospital with me and babies completely checked (why did they need to take bp twice I wonder??). OMG, soooo painful, I'm wincing now just thinking about it. Apparently I am somewhat 'ripe', so things look good to kick off soon. Have had loads of bh's since, so feel like I'm on the home straight. If I don't go into labour, I'll be induced next Tuesday. I said no to this Thursday, I'm sure I can manage for another week if it means more likely I'll get the birth I want. Although dp & I have decided I shouldn't drive anymore and I can't walk further than 2 houses down so god knows what I'll do with ds2 tomorrow!

There, update submitted well before 10pm curfew!

You're a good girl AQ.

It seems quite wrong to call anything fanjo-related "ripe" - did you say "How very dare you!" to the consultant when s/he told you?

I had to share my tears with you....

DD1 asked me yesterday "Do you die if you get hurt?"

"Sometimes, if you have been hurt really badly, you die, but you have to really, really hurt"

She then bursts into tears "I don't want to die. Please mummy don't let me die"

I'm crying by this time "I'll try my very best to stop that happening, you should have lots and lots and lots of birthdays before you die"

I gave her a very big hug.

Both girls have been sick today, they seemed much better by lunchtime. I gave them dried shreddies and water and they kept that down. We booked a (uk) holiday today, we'll be returning on dd2s birthday.

margo

ouch at the sweep AQ! I thought they weren't going to do a regular induction? The next week plan that is??

Margo, it's heart breaking when they do that. I remember DD1 asking if she could die at the same time as me and her dad

AQ, you are a bloody marvel. A superhero in maternity clothes. We adore you

Would someone please tell me what a Milf is? I keep looking at an article in the Guardian tele mag and I have no idea what it means!

DD2 is a total nightmare at the moment. She's just not sleeping, tossing and turning all night, crying, demanding to be fed for h o u r s at a time. I think Medised is called for, non? It is perhaps her teeth?

Still, I'm away tomorrow night for work so might get a decent night's sleep, leaving DH to pick up the pieces

And obviously, LenniEd & Indith are amazing, too.

bp. And oui, je crois bien, Medised.

(give dd2 some too, I would )

AQ ouch I never had one, but have heard about them in gruesome detail from BF and can live without the experience! Actually, BF gave birth 36 hours later, so...(is it time to send labour vibes, d'you think? Or last minute stuff to do?!)

Margo dd1 went through a big death phase about a year ago, it brought a lot of feelings for me and dh too. Though possibly easier to deal with with a slightly younger child. Hope both LOs better, and you immune!

I made a faux pas with Reception TA (dd's v fond of her) this morning, we were early and dd was tearful/tired - so I suggested she tell the teacher how she was feeling. She did, and asked if she could stay with her, but obviously teacher can't stay with one child and said so - dd went quiet and I slunk off knowing I'd been overprotective Mum of PFB and not helped dd into the bargain. Am making vow to get it into my head that primary school is not not not the same as nursery

Mind in gutter emoticon BP - MILF is Mum I'd Like to F!!!

Girls are back to normal today.

Poor mini Eli.

Darn it - I've just had to clear up after the dog now.

Did you eat any, Margo?

at bp and milf. I had no idea either, bp, if that helps at all.

dd came out bouncing, think it was mostly me worrying

Hee Hee BP - made me

Margo, hope you've recovered, 'tis a horrible thing really. Dread the day I have to burst DDs bubble and explain that no one is immortal - we had a rabbit die at the weekend, DH told her it had died but she pointed at it and said 'sleeping', which warmed my heart in a strange way. My dog just rolled in some variety of animal poo on her walk - so have had to wash that off her so feel for you on the poo front!

Pleased things are ok AQ - and also sounds like you are being sensible. TV for DS2 sounds like the best plan to me