'January 08 shiny new - year babies , Keep rolling , rolling , rolling !'

[lilyloo]

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Congrats Bluebell

Congratulations Bluebell!

MM - gald you enjoyed a lie-in. Babies can be such a bridge to other people, can't they?

MrsMc - good grief! How rude, and trying!

Simpson - LOL about another DC. We want another one soon but really don't know how we'll cope. I guess we will

Things are not great in the Simpson household ATM.

DD being very trying and I rang my mum in tears today and bless her she dropped everything to come over and give me a hand.

DH is good with DCs but we are arguing ALL the time My mum had DCs for an hour or so and me and DH got out and talked. Things seem to be improved....

Lots of stresses, DH's collar bone, DD, money, work etc. me and DH are going to try and get away soon money permitting....

Just popping my head in to say Congrats to Bluebell.

Congrats to Nathan for his arm and I hope he gets up on all fours soon. Bless him/

Sorry I've not been writing here much I am keeping an eye out for things but don't feel like posting at the moment. Am feeling crappy.

Will be back soon hopefully.

Lucky was just wondering where you were!

Simpson and Lucky, keep chin up. Simpson keep talking with dh.

Lucky anything i can do you have my number if you want a chat.

All well here. Nathan seems to think he must crawl today cue lots of frustrated screams but some promising pushing up on weak arm.

Have assessment appointment for counselling tomorrow at 9.30 so need to have act together and get out of house 9.15 with nathan having eaten solids.

dh out leading/preaching a special commemorative service for the great 17th centure benefactor of our town. The service is based on the 1662 (yes that is a year) prayerbook and with the mayor etc attending. He was sh*tting a rainbow. It is not normally a job for a first year curate, but his boss is in the Royal Albert Hall watching both his dd sing on Songs of Praise and dh did not want him to miss it. He will be exhausted when home.

Thanks MM and lots of love to Nathan for trying.

this is tip of the iceburg

Hello - just popping on quickly before feeding/bedtime - lots to catch up on by the look of it. Hols were great - can't believe have been home 2 weeks now, crap wether has menat I'm only just finishing the holiday washing as try to use dryer as little as poss

Amelie is definitely on the move - she crawls in her own sweet way - sticks bum up in the air and puts feet flat on floor as well as hands-and-knees! She also stands up now holding on to her playpen. I tried her in the baby walker but she was trying to climb out of it by getting her foot up to the seat bit so don't think I'll risk it!

She's fine with food but doesn't seem to eat much - about half a weetabix for breakfast, she'd skip lunch if she could, gets a little bit of toast and some fruit/veg. Dinner sometimes OK (she liked chicken curry from the Nigella Feast book tonight!)

Anyone else's LO have the appetite of a sparrow?

Bye for now will try to do proper post in the week when DH/DD1 & 2 not at home...

La Trucha yay!!!
Just me then who is amile away from remotely sleeping more than 4 hours Bet that was a shock it just happens like that. With ds he got a really high temp ended up setting of to a and e and it had gone by time we got there. It's so hard when they so little. Hope teeth here soon!

MrsMc , oh dear about the keys! Glad the nuresery was nice don't think they ever seem big enough to go tbh! Think your family should lay off with planning your family

Gingeme aaah bet that is an awful sound!

Rockdoctor swimming sounds fab didn't know they could do lessons so young! Yes tend to leave dd with paper until it looks like it's disintigrating! Both my dc's have been to nursery and both loved it. Nice to make friends and some went to school with ds so we already knew some of the parents whihc was nice. Also the transition to school i think is far easire if they have attended nursery. I used to work in baby room of a nursery and i think a good one would let you look round without apt. Ans have lot's of pre settling visits with you before they start. Obv you can get a lot from staying with the staff for an hour or so!

Simpson glad the party went well Sorry you had rough day we having money stress here too and it's vicious circle as you can't afford to have any quality time with other half when it's what you know you need Hope you can get a night away soon!

Nicky good to see Charlie is being an angel!

MM bless him it's so frustrating for them when they know what they want to do but just can't quite work out how! He will get there in his own time.

Bluebell CONGRATS fingers crossed all is well xx

JKS glad you enjoyed day out!

Lucky will check out thread now sorry things are tough chin up and

Housemum glad you enjoyed hol Amelie sounds like she trying to be on the move to won't be long and all our lo's will be running!

Well dp has gone tonight for a week don't like being on my own so may be on here more! All 3 dc's still full of cough cold so getting very little sleep as seems when one wakes and goes back off the next one does. Going through copious amounts of calpol and karvol! Hope it improves soon am exhausted and very of dp having a week in a hotel , full nights sleep and meal cooked for him.
Had fab night last night at theatre though. The show was fab and had lovely meal at an Italian. It seems way toooo long since i have been out and seen what people actually do on a Sat night Am hoping to scrape some pennys together so me and dp can go out soon as we need it!
Love to everyone else!

Yay bluebell. Congratulations
Wasn't successful in out search for a teeth grind cot thing. We tried Mothercare World where we were told they only come with the cot you buy from Mothercare . Tried ToysRus, nothing but did get George a walk along walker that turns into a car and some more plastic back bibs. Tried in Tesco too but nothing. I will have to go on line I think.
George slept till 5.10 again but he had a bottle and bum change and took an hour to settle again. Then at 7.30 someone knocked on out front door asying 'open up its urgent' so dh did and it was the wrong door he wanted upstairs .
Rockdoctor George is often found chewing away on a bit of tv mag or dh's book but we try to keep everything up out og his way as much as possible.
We can see the tips of Georges nxt tooth. The ones next to his top teeth. Put some Anbesol on them before he went to bed tonight.
Well thats about it from me.
Night all xx

Lilyloo - the sleeping is completely random ATM. Some nights good, some bad so don't worry. I'm still a member of the 'crap sleep' club. How's your first night with DH away? I too got very when DH went away even though he was working. That's the first time Sabela had teeth coming through...

Gingeme - how does George find his teeth coming through?

Lucky - off to read your thread. LEt us know how you're doing.

MM - how did DH's big do go? Is he going to help you get up and out tomorrow. Hope session goes well.

Hi Housemum - Sabela doesn't eat that much. Especially when sh'e teething, like now.

Teething still in full swing here. Her temperature did come down last night though sh'es still a bit hot. She's half frantic with it, although she doesn't cry much. How long can this go on??????

O - simpson - sorry life is pants ATM. Hope air cleared with DH.

Lily I get more sleep overal, but still have to get up about twice most nights. Although Nathan had a decent tea he is very exhausted and not sure he tanked enough bm before sleep so may need top up in a few hours.

Lucky looked at your chat thread and the suggestion on dog walking seems to suit you? You would be your own boss and work most round midday/late morning I would guess.

x-post Susie. dh is home now and it went very well, lots of good comments on sermon. He would help me to get out if he did not have to be in town by 8am to have breakfast with all other clergy in the diocese . Oh well, good practice for back to work.

How is bottle going?

gingeme - here?

bluebell - Congratulations !!!!

simpson & lucky - chins up poor you
lucky - get a book on diy and teach yourself to do it, it may not be fab to start with, but you'll improve with every job

simpson - def make time for you and dh, we do when we remember & suffer when we don't.
it helps us that we have handy/cheap babysitters of a pair of twin teenagers and the boys both go to bed well. but i would say the cost of sitters is well worth it for sanity.
put a few pence in a special pit every now and then, it will add up.

lilyloo - poor you with no dh for a week dh is due to go back to work in london lots soon, boo hiss to that!

madmouse - he is a determined little man isn't he?!

housemum - wouldn't worry about her appetite if she's happy? my boys have big appetites and are generally big/heavy but we are all different.

um, had good lunch out today but was weird given we had discussed timings beforehand (lunch at 12/12.30, we arrived at 11.45) - the dad went out for ready made roast potatoes after we got there!
actually they were tasty but....
and the mum gave her toddler and ds1 a bag of biscuits at about 12.30....ah well, like i said we're all different!
..night all

LaTrucha luckily he doesn't seem to notice he's teething. My ds2 was like that too. Didn't know he had another tooth till he bit you
Thanks jks a rl friend sent me exactly the same link . I shall measure his cot in the morning. I was saying to dh I guess the other boys did it but because theyre cot was wooden and Georges cot is blue it notices more.

Well me and DH have thrashed out differences but will see how long it lasts...

DD not helping matters at all by waking in the night quite a bit now, its a big shock to the system when she has slept 11/12 hrs uninterrupted

My mum was fab today though and definately helped to achieve peace

DD has not been eating much lately but today devoured a whole ella's kitchen pouch and some yogurt and some toast The down side of her eating so much is she refused bottle before bed, even when i woke her 1hr later...

DS's bed was covered in wee this morning and it turned out that DH had forgotten to put his nighttime nappy on

Simpson - sorry things aren't going great. I hope they get better soon. Try to keep smiling.

Thanks for the tips everyone. The reason I didn't want to say on here is because I feel everytime I come on i'm whineing about something - Also cos that really is the tip of the iceburg and I don't want to seem like a bad, moody mum woman which if I start I will cos I could go on for hours about things.
I just don't feel like myself and I don't like who i'm turning into.

Lucky - nobody would think that of you at all. You are just trying to do the best for yourself and DD.

Things have been pretty pants here for a while with a huge screaming row last night with the word "separation" mentioned but we have talked things through today so we shall see.

I think DD has been a MASSIVE shock to the system as she never stops moaning, crying, wingeing etc unless she is being carried. She made DS's party yesterday very hard work. My mum came round today, DD took one look at her massive grin and put her arms up to be carried She doesn't even put her arms up for me!!

Ds was nothing like this and so calm and placid..

Lucky, hope you feel better soon, I feel a bit more like myself now. Nothing better than a good row (and tears!!) to get things out of your system

simpson lo's realy do pick up on stuff going on at home even if you put your best smile on when they are around. I never noticed until I was talking to my sister a few years ago about how shitty my ds's always were when I was having my period. She said its a hormonal thing that kids pick up on. Sorry not much help but its true.

Lucky don't cut yourself off from us as a source of support. We all have bad days weeks months and we all need support.

Gingeme - think you might be right and I did mention that to DH today actually. DD has seen me very upset since going to Ireland a couple of times

She wasn't the best in Holland (probably new surroundings)and things were ok then (between me and DH) so think her initial crying and lack of sleep kicked it all off and now it has spiraled

At least we have talked things through and he is a FAB dad to DCs.

ok then here goes - IGNORE if you want, maybe even just writing it all down will be enough?

DD - Sooo clingy and whiney I just don't feel like I can cope and I've even shouted at her a couple of times which makes me feel even worse.
I watched a programme on BFing yesterday and now feel guilty as hell that I stopped when I did but still confused cos I don't want to BF the next one as BFing DD felt so "wrong"

I feel like i'm living in a dumpster even though the house is tidier and more organised than its ever been. There is actually only 2 rooms left (ours and DD's) that need doing - apart from decorating and some DIY but yet I still feel like I'm not pulling my weight enough.

I want to work but can't work around DP's hours. When I mentioned on another thread about DD being clingy and not being able to tidy the spare room in time for our homevisit for the kittens someone told me off cos I said I didn't want to be "just a mum" now I feel guilty for that too. I still don't want to be "just a mum" I want something for me too and why should I feel guilty for wanting SOMETHING outside of motherhood? - Because this is what you've wanted for years and now its here youre passing the buck.

Me and DP are getting on much better even though i'm annoyed that some of the things he'd promised he'd do by last weekend kept getting put off and put off until there wasnt' enough time and we had to leave it.
He just doesn't pick up on stuff sometimes that I think he should - like the fact that today has been a rough day but he still didn't get up till just before work and I've barely seen him this evening - but then why should he know i've had a tough evening?

I feel very isolated with DD cos of the hours DP works and the fact that there isn't anyone close enough who is available when I need them even if its just for a quick cuppa or something so I'm not constantly surrounded by babies with no other conversation - which is why I rely on the internet so much.
I go to babyclub but it doesn't feel real and I feel very left out there as well, they are kinda cliquy so I don't want to talk to them as much.
I go to my mum's but she's half hour drive away and petrol is just too much.

Anyways... thats enough for now as I really am turning into a winger. Thanks for letting me though.

Oh yeh and to make matter worse I want another baby but am scared to have another labour and another child cos I can't cope with this one and had such a crap job of bonding with and feeding DD that i'm worried i'll ruin the next one too.So i'm all conflicted about that.

I've just got too much in my head.

Lucky I am a bit concerned about you and I think you should try to talk to someone in rl, maybe seek some counselling like me.

your feelings about labour, birth, bonding and bf feeling 'wrong' need exploring and I would not rule out pnd.

also who you are as a person and within your relationship with dp. I have had a few goes at him recently, maybe too much he is your dp after all, but you seem to be at the bottom of the pyramide, ie you get the leftovers.

dc's are not always nice or easy to look after and you do not always have to like them. The number of times i have muttered at nathan that I have human rights too...at the same time you have a thriving little girl so you must be doing a lot right.

why is it wrong not to want to be just a mum? i don't want to be just a mum and i am starting to look forward to returning to work, just wish I could take nathan with me lol.

you were a whole person before you had dd, you have had an addition to your life, your pre-baby person has not just disappeared it is still there.

Hv can refer you, or gp.

do you exercise at all? Just an hour for yourself can be so good.

MM - I'm a lazy buggar... lol. Its something I need to sort out, just not a very nice neighbourhood to go for a walk in. lol.
That was the main reason for looking at getting a dog to MAKE me go out for an hour but that fell through.

I'm not worried about PND - me and DD are bonded now it just took SO long. I mean I expected to feel a rush of love when I saw her and I refused to hold her when she was born... to this day I don't know why.
The BFing was wrong cos I wasn't bonded and by the time I had bonded it was too late as I had already stopped for a couple of months.
Watching the programme the other day I think the fact that breasts are a sexual thing to me didn't help and I need to start looking at them as food more.

DP does help out - this morning he took her for an hour cos I had a headache so he does do stuff, just not how I want him to do stuff so he annoys me for it.
We've already had the conversation about DD and his sleeping and he's agreed that I can't rush to pick her up and sometimes I really do have to pee so if she wakes him up then she wakes him up, not my fault and not really her fault. We're putting a door on our bedroom soon which will fix that.