May 2008 - gurgling, laughing and maybe even rolling!

[thefortbuilder]

new thread everyone!

Oooh!! get you lot!!!

And all I've been doing is playing with a baby and walking a dog!! (Oh, and of course, keeping the house lovely and tidy at all times )

It really made me laugh to think that football coaches are probably searching toddler groups looking for good rollers to make the premiership There is good money to be made at CHelsea for rolling and diving (can you tell I'm a Manchester girl at heart!!!??)

Tis nice to be back! I missed you guys (not that you missed me, you have all been far too busy conquering the world! )

nssa Of course you were missed! I tell you what though, the pages weren't half slow to fill up while you were having a sabbatical (big words catching on).

Shame about the carpets and football.

Mocat!!! Are you (In a nice round about sort of way) saying that I waffle on???

hahaha!! ( I do, I know it!!)

There was a spell where we both weren't posting NSSA and whole days and tumbleweeds would go past with no-one posting .

While you were away I was assigned David Beckham's private physio and during a session he admitted that he really does not only prefer curvy women, but more so women with a 'had 2 babies' jelly belly and saggy tits, and we had a night of hot passion at Beckingham Palace.

He was OK. 'Average' I would say.

Well, went swimming today, no longer pg or BF and the bloody chlorine has still made me all snotty, sneezy and itchy throaty....... How can this be? I love swimming!!!

Just cleared the spare room (bloody stuff averywhere) as the plasterer is coming in the morning to plaster what is going to be the girls room. It really needs doing. Then Dh will hopefully paint it at the weekend and they can move in next week!!! I am so excited about having more wardrobe space for all their clothes. They are currently sharing a small wardrobe and it's driving me crazy!!!

Anyway, must go and dig out the Benadryl.

Yes, I know posh spice has had 3 kids and doesn't have a jelly belly. But she also doesn't eat and has a plastic surgeon.

Bring on the real women!!!!

HAHA! The days of tumbleweed are well and truly over, LM74!!!

Sorry to hear your night of passion with the Beckhameister was only average... He's obviously out of practice, what with having a stick insect of a wife I'm sure she has a soft, cuddly side somewhere!?!?!

No news here (feel almost apologetic that I haven't won Olympic gold or solved global warming or something!!) - THe dog jumped into the canal at the weekend and had to be fished out by DH - that is as exciting as it gets in the NSSA household!!!

night!! NSSA xx

I just did something really silly.

CM came to pick DD1 up, and without thinking at all I invited her in for coffee, so I then had not only the CM, who is lovely but talks for England! but the three kids she was looking after and my DD1 too. AND DH is asleep cos he's on nights, AND DD2 is asleep so I should have been making the most of time to myself.

. What was I thinking?

Good morning girls

I haven't posted for quite a while - my little angel has stopped sleeping & the combination of no sleep and red raw eyes has limited my internet usage.

I read the sleeping posts with interest & saw MF's post about babies not sleeping at just the right time (I was reading posts on my phone at 2am after dd had woken up again) and it made me feel a bit less lonely!

Two weeks ago she started hitting her right ear as well as the dribbling and chewing all her toys but also creaming and wincing in pain

She had been sleeping 9-11pm, 1130-630am, 7-11 then maybe 1-2 and 330-440pm with a final nap around 530pm. Now she is going to bed earlier (around 7) but last night was an average night and she woke up at 10pm, 1215, 1am, 2am, 330am, 5am and has now been awake gurgling and smiling (she only screams in the night) since 7.

Last week we tried "the book" over 5 days but on the back of a week of no sleep her screaming in the early hours on day 5 proved too much. Now she is refusing to sleep to any timetable - her original one (which she set) or the new one we tried to set.

The only night she's slept more than 2 or 3 hours in a row in 2 weeks is when I went to stay at my mum's to get some help in the night and she slept through (Sod's Law)

So, when she wakes up in the night I've been trying to soothe her in her cot but after half hour (which is a bl**dy long time with a screaming beautiful baby) I have to get her up and cuddle her. She now wants to bf every time she wakes up in the night. I am stuck between being desperate for a few hours sleep (and prepared bf all night if I have to) and being worried this is going to become her new routine.

Dr Marc says teething doesn't wake them up but dd is definitely in pain when she wakes up and is holding her face....

I am trying to sound jovial but am so tired I feel like I am going crazy. Dp is helping out but I NEED SOME SLEEP!

Welcome back NSSA - really good to have you back.

MM

MM You poor thing!!!! I really feel for you.

I don't really know what to suggest, hopefully it is teeth and she will be back to normal very soon??

pina I was planning to go back to uni full-time this year but I've decided it would just be too miserable and that I really didn't want to. I'll still graduate with a BA, just not Honours and I can live with that! One more essay to do and I'm all done (it's just getting it done that's the problem!)

LM74 I've made your pasta and it was amazing! I put quite a bit of the reserved pasta water back in and it went so creamy and gorgeous. Thank you!

flick good luck for the fashion show!

nssa welcome back!!

monkeysmama You poor soul, I haven't got any bright ideas but I hope you get more sleep soon.

Weaning is going really well, we've had some apple, carrot and banana so far all mixed with a little baby rice and EBM, DS can't get enough of it!

Slightly concerned that my BM supply might be dropping. DS hasn't yet dropped or reduced any breast feeds. I know breastfeeding is supply and demand but the demand if anything has increased not decreased (more demand for night feeds after weeks of sleeping through for example). Yet in the past few days my milk supply has been considerably less. A week ago I was able to give a huge feed in the morning and express at least 6oz from the other side. Now I can't express much and my boobs feel totally empty. I feel pretty healthy otherwise but I've noticed I've been a lot hungrier recently. Apart from midnight fridge raiding, I do usually give in to this and have been eating and drinking loads. Any ideas on how to boost my supply or know what might be going on? I really don't want to have to go on to formula. Thanks!

Bit miffed this morning, DS fed at 3am which is pretty unusual and in my sleepy state I knocked a pint of water over my phone and it's now dead. All my lovely messages and all my numbers Hmmph.

Helloooo...tis me, and I can't remember the last time I was here but K was asking me the other day where the smiley faces were so I thought I'd pop back and see what every one is up to!

I've been visiting elsewhere as I seem to be turning a bit hippy/alternative/weird/whatever (I hadn't noticed, DH told me!). Ok, I had realised my sling obsession IS an obsession....and asics I haven't been back to that group since I went with you, but I need some advice so I might have to go next month.I was really shocked at how forcefully you were 'advised' grrrr.Really opened my eyes.

Anyway, for the mums who have loved ones who don't sleep so much at night, whether its a problem or not, there are lots of people in the same boat on www.iwantmymum.com and feel its normal,and (gulp) don't neccesarily feel sleeping through is an important goal (not everyone's cup of tea, I know). I don't know how often J wakes in the night, except at 17-18 weeks she had a major growth spurt and was up every 45mins-2 hrs and I was a zombie. Last night I think it would be 2-4 times, but we're co-sleeping and as she's grown she's great at latching on without help (if i've left my boobs out!) so I'm really not sure....

We're trying doing baby led weaning (i.e. if they can grab it they can eat it, so no mush unless its on a spoon they can grab) which J seems to enjoy- she was getting good at knocking my cutlery, grabbing my knife, shovig my plate so decided it might be time to let her try. Not so keen on the mush on spoons I offer!

Arrggh this was meant to be a quick hello....some things don't change, sorry .
I'll go back and see if I can catch up a bit now, is everyone generally ok?
mumofkandj

Baiyu - Give the phone a bit of time. I dropped mine down the loo once and it died, but I dried it out on a radiator and it sparked into life again... I have to admit, it was never the same again, but I did manage to rescue the information!!!

MM - Def. sounds like teething. Harry is feeding little but often at the moment, and I am sure the teat in his mouth soothes him!!

LM - It did make me laugh about your CM...

Hope you all have good days!!

baiyu put your phone in the airing cupboard and just let it dry out and it should be fine.

Mumofkandj: Been hoping you would come back soon. I need some of your expertise when it comes to slings. Which one would be best for 18lbs plus 4 month baby, to wear for afew hours at a time and relatively straight forward to put on.

Baiyu sorry to hear about your phone, DS1 threw mine in the toilet when he was about 15 months and it died

LM Hope you got your rest when they all left.

MM: DS2 has also started screaming for afew seconds in the night 4 or more times every night. hoping just a phase. I hope you manage to get some sleep

Sorry haven't gone back a page, so if I have missed anyone,I apologise

Hey MM, sorry you're having a shit time with teeth.
We are too Just in the last few days.
But yours sounds worse. DS is waking really early and then basically stays awake apart from little mini naps, where I can't get anything done. When he's awake he doesn't want more than about 50ml of his feed and he's just miserable.
He seems to have loads of wind and is possetting quite a bit, think that's why he doesn't want to feed and what's waking him up. But it's only since the teeth have come up, maybe he's swalloing more saliva. I don't know.....just that he's driving me crackers. And your LO sounds worse...at least my DS does a good stretch at night.
My sympathies and hope it gets better soon.
xx

baiyu here is a whole page on how to save yr phone! i know 'cos i dropped mine in a cup of tea a while back good luck drying it out.

re milk supply - if ds is feeding in the night again it might be your boobs haven't quite caught up yet? the amount you can express is pretty unrelated to your actual supply iirc (tho many people will tell you different). ds will get milk out where the pump can't, and you are producing milk constantly while he is feeding. i always find the kellymom site really helpful and reassuring on these matters, esp. the 'got milk?' section on supply.

mm so sorry to hear abt the crap sleeping. two thoughts: could be growth spurt as someone else suggested (i'm sure ds2 has just had one); also is the room she is sleeping in suddenly colder? ds2 has been waking up in the middle of the night and bf-ing back to sleep, and i suddenly realised he might be cold as the last couple of nights are so much colder. try more clothes? (could also explain why she slept thru at yr mum's if it's warmer there...?) good luck!

mumofkandj nice to hear from you again! we are going to do baby led weaning too but ds2 is still a bit young. he watches every bite we take with fascination tho'... i'm looking fwd to trying him on some real food!

asics The kellymom website was brilliant! I found it really interesting - thanks.

macaco and mm - sorry to hear about the disturbed sleeping and babies with sore mouths.

At DS's 4 month check the HV noticed he didn't have matching skin creases in his legs so I was advised to take him to the doc. A month later (obviously a great sense of urgency on my part) he today saw the GP who reckons his hips are fine but has to refer him on for an x-ray. He has already had 3 x-rays in his 5 month life(remember he got milk in his lung at 3 weeks when he choked and then he had a follow-up x-ray 6 weeks later to see that the lungs were ok - which they were - the radiographer took two goes). I'm not too thrilled at the prospect of him having another. Any physicists out there?! What harm could be done if he has too many x-rays?

mocat- not a physicist but a radiographer, though its a long time since I did my radiation physics. Every x-ray has to be justified before it can legally be performed, so although your gp is saying he's fine, he must have a valid reason to refer you. The radiation dose on a small baby is a bit less than you'd get for a knee x-ray at this age. Also, its a benefit vs risk- if they misseda hip problem now, your chhild could have hip problems that may not become significantly noticable until much older, when its too late to do anything about it. Hmmm, that's a point, I don't scan hips but when they're younger they scan the hips instead of x-rays...but i can't remember when they have to do x-rays instead of scans (they can't see the angles or something , sorry I'm being far too vague here).
The important thing is that medical professionals have looked at your child and considered the (quite tiny,in this case) risks of radiation, vs not doing anything and your child having an undiagnosed hip problem.
Something to consider when thinking about radiation risks- some areas of the country have quite high background radiation, or if you go on a long haul flight you are exposed to radiation ( I think a rough average I was told was about 10 chest x-rays for an adult).
Hope you're not worrying too much, and hope it all works out ok.

Mitchell- slings, hmmm(rubs hands with glee and everyone else has a big paragraph to skip lol ). I don't have vast experience, but the one I reach for most that gives even weight distribution is a mei tai with padded straps. Its a peice of fabric with ties off all 4 corners, shorter ones at the bottom to go around your waist and longer ones to give you a range of tying positions. I find J gets in my way on my front ( though on my front is great for quickly out of the car, or holding my coat around us to keep us both dry) so I'm putting her on my back like a back pack. Its taken a bit of practice, but she can see whats going on so is happy, or can sleep easily. Personally I use a Kozy, but there are LOADS out there. A good place to pick up a second hand MT is on Yahoo- ukbabywearingswap group, but there are some occasionally on ebay too. I would look on www.bigmamaslings.co.uk for advice, and if you are thinking of buying a new one.

Asicsgirl- waves hello!! Good to see you here too...

mocat he should be able to have an ultrasound rather than an xray on his hips as they have to bend them out etc while they are looking.

MM sorry to hear you are having a terrible time with sleeping - i was wondering too if it might be a growth spurt, and ime teething pain was always worse at night as they are not preoccupied doing other things. medised might help if you are sure it's teething pain, as once they get overtired sometimes it can be worse trying to get them to sleep then iyswim?

lm you poor thing with the cm! i do silly stuff like that though i know what you mean!

baiyu bet your phone will be ok - i think our old laptop might have been ok had i left it for a bit, but it's still not 100% right.

we have a chap sorting out the garden at the moment - he's totally clearing the front out and i cna actually see out to the street which is very strange!

sorry to hear whoever had the night of passion with becks that it was distinctly average - my evening with clive owen the other week was just fireworks all the way

mm- im glad my posts help you feel less lonely in the dead of night, thats why i wrote them, to let others know they are not alone. Hope things are improving. have you tryed co sleeping? i think ds2 wakes around 3-4 times in the night and usually goes staright back to sleep after a bf.

baiyu - how soft your breasts feel isnt relevant to your supply at this later stage, as they get used to what baby needs they will get softer and more 'normal' as time goes on. also as someone has already said the amount you can express isnt relevant to the amount your baby can get. If you still feel that you want to boost your supply then tiger milk is great, its 2 pints of full fat milk, 3 bananas and 3 brewers yeast tablets (crushed), whizz all together in blender keep in fridge and drink over 24hours. You can add some choc powder to taste if you like. beware though it really does work. i started drinking it with ds1 when i thought my milk was dwindling, it wasnt at all and i just ended up with a very wet bed!!

Anyway i have to go now as ds1 is teething (back molars) and he is unbearable, he is currently sitting on the sofa crying as he wants another uny oot ba (honey fruit bar).

Oh yeah also to those who arent rolling yet, enjoy it whilst it lasts, ds2 is rolling back to tummy to back right across the room, i was hoping for him to stay still for another couple of months more at least!!

MF - I know what you mean!! My good times are over when DS can crawl!! At the moment, I can leave him on his play mat or in one of his chairs and pop to loo, make lunch, cup of tea without worrying, but once he's moving, life will be much harder!! Hope your DS1 enjoyed is uny oot bar!!!

Thankfully the new house mean I'll be able to baby proof one or two rooms rather than having to deal with an open plan house!!

Flick - I had gardeners in last week and they really did a super job... Hope you like the results!!!

DS has started clutching his right ear this afternoon... I (sadly) cracked open the calpol and gave him a spoonful this afternoon, as it's obvious his teeth are giving him lots of pain... He's still eating well and sleeping OK, but he is grouchy in the extreme!!

Thanks for all the phone and breastfeeding advice and the useful websites! My DP is mocking me for using mumsnet so solve all my life's problems but hey, works!

magicfairy - where can you buy brewers yeast tablets?

Thanks mumofkandj and flick; reassuring advice. I didn't know scanning could be a possibility.

Let us just take into consideration that lm74 - formerly goodcatholicgirl - has lowered the tone of 'since you've been gone' and led the usually sedate flick astray too. Tut, tut.

Bugger - does that mean my night of passion with George Clooney needs to be postponed?

He will be so disappointed!

George will have to seek his pleasures elsewhere.