APRIL 2008- The One Where We Recite The Weaning Guidelines and Fight Through The Growth Spurts!

[VictorianSqualor]

07 March: Ashton, a fourth child for gemprincess, 5lb 13oz @ 34+6
09 March: Ted, a second DS for Daftmoo, 7lb 14oz @ 36+0
21 March: George William, a first baby for KnitterintheNW, 7lb 2.5oz @ 37+3
25 March: Olivia, a second baby for TheMaskedPoster, 7lb 2oz @ 38+4
28 March: Pablo, a third baby and first DS for vacaloca, 7lb 14oz @ 39+4
28 March: Matteo Alexander, a first baby for Gangle @ 38+0 (?)
30 March: A baby girl, a second child for PortAndLemon, 8lb 15oz @ 39+5
02 April: Jak, a baby boy for rainbowdays, 9lb @ 39+1
02 April: A baby boy, a second child for bunyanvillas, 6lb 14oz @ 37+5
02April: Struan, a baby boy for Donnabels, 6lbs 15oz
02 April: A baby boy for mummyofaprincess @39 weeks
03 April: A baby girl for PippiCalzelunghe @38+2weeks
03 April: Aeryn Daisy, a baby girl for Denny185, 9lb 8oz @ 39+3
03 April: Benjamin, a baby boy for Micegg, 8lb 3oz @ 39+4
03 April: Roelof Grové, a first DS for Sal22, 7lb 5oz @ 38+5
03 April: A baby boy for siikibam, 6lb 8.5oz @39+1wks
04 April: Matilda, a baby girl for AprilsFoolsBaby 7lb @
06 April: Henry Peter, a baby boy for Sheds, 7lb 130z @ 40+4
07 April: Sebastian George, a fourth DS for Peachy, 8lb 4oz @ 41+1
07 April: Jack, a first baby for ThePFJ, 7lb 5.5oz @ 41+1
07 April: Lexie Bea, a fourth baby for babywhiting, 8lb 1oz @ 39+4
08 April: Alasdair, a second DS for bunnyrabbit, 8lb 5.5oz @ 40+3
08 April: James Samuel, a third baby for honeybee10, 6lb 7oz @ 37+2
09 April: Zara Mia Martin, a first baby for V1KK1M, 7lb 10oz @ 41+0
09 April: Jasmine, a baby gilr for Niceychops
11 April: Kyran for rdk, 7lb 13oz @ 38+3weeks
11 April: Sebastian James, a second baby for Fleecy, 10lb 2oz @ 40+4
11 April: A baby girl, a first baby for CeylonSapphire, 7lb 12oz @ 41+1
11th April: Florence, a baby girl for LouMoose
12 April: Maya Alice, a first baby for egyptianprincess, 8lb 15.5oz @ 40+3
12 April: Sophia Viviana, a second DD for AussieDivaonaBreak, 6lb 12oz @ 39+3
15 April: Alexander Oliver, a third baby for VictorianSqualor, 10lb 3oz @ 41+0
16 April: Ailish, a first baby for Mollyfloss, 6lb 11oz @ 40+3
16 April: A baby girl, a second baby for elfsmummy, 7lb 13oz @ 41+1
16 April: Zoe, a baby girl, a first baby for ToastAddict, 6lb 10oz @ 39+3
16 April: Jasmin, a baby girl, a first baby for Eggandketchup, 9lb 3oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy for paranoidmumy, 8lb 9oz @ 41+4
17 April: A baby boy, a second son for lorisparkle, 7lb 12.5oz @ 41+6
17 April: Benedict, first baby for LadyBee 9 lb 3oz @ 41 +2
18 April: Millie, a baby girl for scorpio1 8lb 9oz @ 41+?
18 April: Cameron, a second baby for munchkinmum @ 39+5
19 April: Oliver Michael, first baby for bashboid, 7 lb 4 oz at 41 +3
20 April: Samuel, a first baby for Velbels. 8lb15oz at 41+1weeks.
20 April: Angharad Mai, 8lb 4oz, 40+6, first for 7monthsplus
20 April: Emilia, 7lb15oz, a first baby for SuzeM, 40+6
21 April: Eve, a second baby for Scampmum, 8lb 4oz @ 39+3
22 April: Sam, a second son for Soph73 @ 40+0
22 April: Molly, a first baby for EllieG, 8lb 8oz? @ 40+5
22 April: Daisy, second baby for AttilaTheHan @ 40 +3
22 April: Zoe Olivia, second daughter for Piccallilli2 7lb 1oz @42+1
23 April: Jessica Elizabeth, first baby for BabyBratt @ 40+1 7lb 12oz.
24 April: A baby girl, a second daughter for christmaspixie, 9lb 2oz @ 40+6/41+5
24 April: Miya Jade, baby girl for ShelleySare at 39+4
25 April: Amelie, a first baby for Dondons, 9lb, 41+3 (i think!)
25 April: Aisha, a second baby for Jaq39 7lb 14oz @ 41+4
26 April: Hope Olivia, a second dd for northeastmummy, 7lb 11oz at 41 .
26 April: Gabriel, a third child for Bainmarie @ 41+5
26 April: Eli Michael, a baby boy for LittleMissTurquoise, 7lb 15.5oz @ 40+5
27 April: a baby girl for Ayomi, 6lb 1oz @ 41+0
28 April: Jacob Andrew, a 2nd DS for Kaybeeand2boys, 8lb 4oz @ 41+5
29 April: Thomas Henry, a 2nd DS for TLSM, 7lb 8oz 40+3
30 April: Harry Samuel, a fourth ds for Chipmonkey, 9lb 5oz @ 39+2
30 April: Ellie, a baby girl for Annamama
01 May: Sophie May, a baby grl for Annieroo, 6lb 5oz @ 41+4
01 May: Euan George, a baby boy for Jenniejennie, 8lb @ 40+4
02 May: Robyn Olivia, a baby girl for soph28, 8lb 1oz @ 42+1
05 May: Nora Martina, a first baby for Eva07, 7lb 8oz @ 41+2
05 May: A baby boy for Beeper, 8lb 10oz @ 41+0
05 May: Gabriella Summer, a first baby for Mum2babyroo, 8lb 4oz @ 40+6
06 May: Wilf, 8lb 60z for bigbadmom @ 41+6
07 May: James Andrew, a second ds for Moominsmummy, 8lb 13oz @ 41+5
08 May: Ellie Isabella, a first baby for Carey87, 7 lb 8oz @ 42+1
08 May: Robin David, a 2nd baby for Woollymummy, 8lb 11 oz @ 41+3
09 May: 4 kittens for scorpio's cat!
10 May: Astrid Mary, a second dd for sagitta, 8lb 8oz @ 42+0

Sagitta - i didnt realise how much i wanted to do it until she had a growth spurt and HV suggested formula at last feed and i cried saying noooooooooo i dont want to! I expressed one boob and fed from the other at the same time, so DH got up in the nights to feed. GOD he is a star

Can you do the same? give dh a kick up the bum. Can he take dd1 out?

Yes, Sagitta, as long as you don't add too mnay formula feeds your milk supply should still eb good enough to get back up to full speed,

HOWEVER, she won't 'go back to normal' if your milk supply doesn't increase, so if you want to use formula for that feed you should express at other times.

What she is doing by feeding more is trying to increase your supply, which won't happen if you supplement her with formula, so you're just delaying it rather than escaping it, sorry!

If you ask mums that formula feed they don't have noticeable growth spurts really, just a point where LO gets an extra ounce added to their bottle, this is the equivalent of our growth spurts but it takes a little more to add that extra ounce iyswim.

DH gets so snappy with both dcs, that it just makes everything worse, especially in the middle of the night. He flounces off and says that he's got to get some sleep, but I have only had one 4 hour stretch of sleep, once, in 3 months. - and that was on Wednesday (oh happy day!). We are trying to let her cry settle herself a bit more at night while DH is on holiday, but its quite a painful experience!

Good point, VS. I only agreed to formula because I understand its harder for them to digest (very mean mummy emoticon) and that she would then wake up less often. She's 3 months tomorrow- surely she doesn't need to feed 3 or 4 times a night any more - and that's normal, not a growth spurt. Growth spurts seem to be a feed every hour or two.

We've been allowing DS to cry a little more now too, He has started deciding he doesn't want to be in bed at bed time, because he isn't as 'drunk' off his last feed.
Where he used to feed so much he was almost unable to do anything but smile so he didn't argue at bedtime he now feeds much more efficiently, but if he is downstairs he feeds at 8:30, falls asleep at about 9:30, so I've taken to feeding him at 8:30 and putting him to bed at 9pm, he can whinge all he likes! I have gone in to check him the last two nights and found he is practically crying in his sleep though, so left him to it.

Millie still gets drunk before bedtime, so just goes down when she is more or less licking rather than feeding iyswim. Sometimes awake-ish, sometimes not.

She self-settles in the day and the odd night though.

Formula was very temptimg this last week.

If you're desperate to cut down on ngiht feeds I'd give her a normal breastfeed an hour before normal time, then again at normal time, then only offer water in the night, except for one feed, choose which one you're happy with.
With me a 4oclock feed is fine, It means I get two straight 3/4 hour stretches of sleep, so I'd give only water at other feeds, and offer the breast at the 4:30 wake up.
Be warned, this may NOT work, but it is how you can see whether she needs the food or is waking and needs help getting back to sleep rather than a feed.

also remember the 3 day rule - 3 nights and it may work.

Thank you! That's what I was hoping to do - just do a 2ish am feed, then a 6 or 7am one. I tried giving her water once, but she went completely beserk! Should I keep trying, do you think?

I've been doing a feed an hour before the bedtime feed for a few weeks, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

Waaaah - was so hoping we were onto a New Thing - namely Sleeping Through The Night... but it's not to be after 2 nights of bliss, DD was back to waking at 3am and then 6am last night. Today Mommy really does have a headache! Vertigo is still lingering - I've been awake pretty much since that 3am feed cos of the vertigo - I find it hard to lay down because I spin so much - so again - waaaah! My physio doesn't think there is much she can do for me because the exercises she gave me to do make me feel so rotten, so I am feeling despondent. Hoping the specialist will have something up his sleeve when I next see him for my MRI results.

VS/Sal - thanks for finding out how to make the changes to my profile!

LadyBee - the MRI was very noisy, and I suffer from claustrophobia, but I must have been VERY tired as I managed to fall asleep in it! Had a very good 30 min kip! I hope you are feeling better now and are over your cold?

DH and I celebrated our 4th wedding anniversary yesterday (the day we concieved DD I might add last year! ) I think for that reason it will always be an emotional day for me! We are off to my fav restaurant in the area (Chapter One) for a nice lunch on Sunday to celebrate it.

Had Gigi's innoculations on Wednesday - they were so, so horrible - we were both crying - yes I am a wuss! Thankfully she seems to get over them the very next day, so I suppose that's good.

Tell me something - when do you stop needing to wind them? DD seems to randomly burp herself these days... is that normal?

They don't really need winding once they can move themselves around.

I am coming to the meet-up, forgot to say, I spoke to DP about it and he's going to give me the money

I farking hate bad table manners.

DD's friend is here, causing a riot as ever, but sat at the table mouth open scoffing, ad then talking with her mouth full.
ARGHHHHHHHH

eating with mouth open is my worst thing ever - dss does it and it makes my blood boil!

I can't stand it!!!!

Yay looking forward to meeting VS - pity you aren't coming Scorpio

Agree with the table manners thing - bleurgh!

Odd things going on in the Bee household, yesterday DS wouldn't settle away from me, lots of crying and wanting to be upright, today so far for both naps I've just sat him on my knee for a little quiet contemplation of the curtains in his nursery, then put him in his cot, tucked him up and gone and done some stuff while he's still awake - come back to find him sound asleep. Without a peep!
The first time was an accident, I just put him down because I needed to go find something but because he went off to sleep without my help, I thought I try it again for this lunchtime nap and he did it again
So now I know he can go to sleep without my help, but the question is will he...
He has always been pretty good at self-settling once he's been asleep for a while, but usually needed rocking/patting/shushing to be lured into sleep to start off.

I hope he's not ill

Sometimes I think DS is never going to reach that milky drunk stage in the evenings, but often if we just have a small break from feeding and then go back, within about 5 mins he gets there.

Oh and there he his. He's psychic. Knows exactly when I'm online and in the middle of a post.

I'm going to leave him a for a bit. The big wail is done and I can hear snuffly sounds that I think are him eating his hands so lets see whether he settles.

Yes! table manners, eating with mouth open is a pet hate for me too.

Oh VS you seem to have the same reading list as I have on my amazon wishlist - I'm ordering How to Talk.., Raising Boys, and Unconditional Parenting - probably all a bit premature but seeing I have some time and have regained the concentration for reading now I thought I'd get them and see what I think and then see whether DP and I can agree on our strategy beforehand.
I think a lot of the time the way we relate to one another comes down to patterns of behaviour that become habits (you know, the couple who only ever talks to each other in a sarcastic, put down sort of way; the habit my neighbour has of yelling to her kids, without getting up to see what they're trying to show her, etc etc) - so I hope that if we set up some patterns of how we talk to each other, and DS, and practice it while he's tiny, hopefully it'll just be 'the way we do stuff' rather than a conscious effort when/if troubling times strike later on.
That's my theory anyway. I just hope I don't hate what the books say when I actually read them. They do seem to get a fairly good response from mumsnet though.

Nope he's grumbling. Guess that's him awake then.
Byee.

LadyBee - that is what Gigi does - I put her in her cot when I know she is tired and off I go - sometimes she has a little 'chat' with her toys 1st, but I find she generally drifts off herself. A far cry from what it used to be about a month ago - would not go down in her cot - only in my arms! Thanksfully (touch wood) that is over now!

Agh - sorry to be dense - what was your old name, mommyhasaheadache? Sorry, too tired tot hink straight.

or write straight

Lol - Mum2babyRoo!

if my last period started 8 weeks ago; why haven't i had another one? Have not been night feeding apart from the last week. Am not pg unless i tested too early (last week).

Dont know Scorpio, I had my first when DD2 was 5 weeks, second at 9 weeks and 3rd.......still not arrived. Im not night feeding either so dont quite know what my body is doing, will rpobably spring it on me when least expecting.

oh so they can be all over the place? when i FF the others they were bang on regular straight away, must be the BF hormones or something.

Wouldn't mind being pg at all though. Was thinking about re-testing in a fortnight or something.

I think its within normal limits to be all over the show, with the other 2 I didnt have any periods at all till stopped feeding.