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December 07 - I'm still standing, yeah, yeah, no!

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Wizzska · 21/07/2008 19:43

Hello people, is anyone there?

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becklespeckle · 14/08/2008 19:19

Don't let Louise's comment upset you BT, I am sure she didn't mean it in a way to upset anyone, its just that everyone's take on SAHM/WOHM is different and our choices are all different too. I don't think there is a wrong or a right way to do it and also think that wrong and right are different to different people (if that makes sense). Some people need work to keep them sane and others need it to keep their finances going, its a tough debate and is always a heated one on MN!

becklespeckle · 14/08/2008 19:22

On a completely different tack Evie learned to sit herself up today! She went crawling into the kitchen and then just sat herself up! DH and I clapped and said "You sat up!" and she looked down at herself and then back to us as if to say "Oh yes! So I have!"

Put the camera on the floor today at the opposite end of the room to her and filmed her crawling towards it (and getting it) - so cute! Just need to work out how to patch the Mission Impossible music over the top of it now!

Caz10 · 14/08/2008 19:44

aaaaaaaaaw beckle that is so cute!! well done! my dd is just firmly happy sitting atm, very steady on her wee bum and can reach miles to pick things up so she seems quite happy - just enjoying it while it lasts!!

Survived work, just....

BT hope you are feeling better, it's such a difficult subject - I know we put off having kids for ages because we couldn't afford for either of us to go PT as we would really like. But then realised if we waited until then we never would...although with dh on shifts we are luckier than most, he is around a lot during the day.

Also we are lucky in that our childcare does not cost us anything, just dh and the 2 grannies - I don't know how it would work out financially if we had to pay, or what it will be like if we have another.

i personally wouldn't feel right working FT if I didn't have too, but would never judge anyone that does. Also people's opinions on how much money they NEED is very different - I am working literally so we can afford mortgage/food/bills, but if we could manage without my wage I certainly wouldn't work just so we could go fancy hols or whatever - but then I have a friend who works FT with 2 dcs so that they can have the big house etc...I don't agree with that but it suits them so I would never say anything...everyone is different!

oh - dd can wave now, v cute!

macdoodle · 14/08/2008 19:53

Hi guys been about but lots going on and bit stressed not really been up to posting - your lives all seem so lovely and normal compared to mine
Anyhow just felt the need to give BT a hug (yes yes I know we don't do hugs on MN)...BT please don't be upset or worry DS will be fine ....I went back to work FT after DD1 (not just full time..every 3rd night I worked till 11pm and every 3rd weekend I worked from Fri morning to Monday eve)....she was in nursery 5 days a week 10 hours a day and MIL probably saw more of her than I did Anyway she is fine - lovely bright happy well socialised and we are very close it did her NO harm at all but was hard for me...
I don't think Loiuse meant any harm but this thread is not the place for SAHM vs WOHM mums ....I could not stay at home FT I know that I would either go mad or murder one of my children BUT each to their own .....
On a happy note Lily is fab - eats solids like a horse, still BF eve, nights (when needed) and 1st thing (and the occasional day feed when I am home and can't be bothered to do a bottle or she won't go to sleep)....she is huge with big chunky legs and an infectious smile ...
She has one tooth finally, sits well by herself, rolls both ways, and crawls commando style but only backwards , she also flips all over the place in her cot and managed to get arms and legs stuck through bars despite a bumper and a grobag ...
Her pincer grip is pretty good she can pick crumbs up off her high chair
She mostly sleeps pretty well unless she is teething or has a cold which seems pretty much all the time
My big girl loves her to pieces, she is a lovely natured happy baby and I feel blessed to have her
Hi to everyone will try and catch up soon.....

BouncingTurtle · 14/08/2008 20:17

Thanks everyone... believe me I would work p/t in a second if dh and I could afford it!

Beckle - Oh wow! Your dd is so clever! Ds hsn't done that but has been trying to pull himself up - even in the bath

Caz - DH went to get ds from his cot this morning and said he waved at him - it's so cute when they do that!

Mac - sorry to hear you've been stressed, though pleased to hear Evie is doing so well!

Any other toothless babies around or is it just mine

BouncingTurtle · 14/08/2008 20:18

Oh forgot to say, yes ds does manage to get his leg stuck despite his sleeping bag!

suey2 · 15/08/2008 01:05

no teeth here either bt!
Beckle I am on hols but playing with my phone- loads of wifi here so no hideous roaming charges

thingamajig · 15/08/2008 01:23

dd is still gummy, apparantly I didnt get teeth until I was 10 mo. She manages to eat toast anyway [grin with no teeth]!
Just back from my mums, she is obsessed with when dd and her other granddaughter do things compared to me. In a really competative way, like "I make beter babies than you". Which is silly but annoying.
Dd screamed loads on the journey up country, it takes 4-5 hours. On the way home I set off at 7pm and she slept the whole way, and the traffic was better too

buzzybee · 15/08/2008 08:43

Hi all. No please let's not have the SAHM debate here...there's absolutely no right answer and its such an emotional topic.
Macdoodle - do please vent here if it helps. I know what you mean sometimes its seems like everyone else has the perfect life / family but you're so right about Lily being worth it all. I feel the same way.
Don't mean to brag BTW but tooth #5 appeared today!
We're nowhere near crawling but I can't put her on the floor but she rolls now so I guess that's progress altho actually it seems more like frustrating at the moment as she inevitably gets stuck.
Personally I'm loving working 3 days per week. Means I never go 2 days in a row without spending a decent chunk of time with DD, and on the days I work I get a huge injection of intellectual stimulation and adult conversation - which is pretty important to me given there are no other adults at home
DD hardly moves in her cot - the downside tho is that she has quite a mis-shapen head (flat on the back right side). Nothing to be done apparently - I guess some hair will cover it up.
Have a good weekend all.

claraquitetirednow · 15/08/2008 16:31

Hi everyone, struggling to get on as the internet is either down or so slow that I only really get a chance to email friends and family back home most days (oh and look at potential holiday spots in Thailand for our first planned break in October....). I have skimmed through, it's great to see all your news, good and bad. I won't add to the working debate except to say I would love to work part-time but like those who don't have a choice but to work full-time it can be slightly offensive when people put down SAHM's. Not that this has happened on this board at all, but in RL I have had a few people make me feel like some sort of manically grinning Stepford Wife because I am at home with the kids all day!!! The worst thing is people never ask you about your background or what you used to do - they just assume you are a cabbage brain with no opinion about anything.

Hopefully I wll get some work while I am here at some point but in the meantime I am trying to enjoy being with a toddler and VERY active 8-month-old all day long (manic grin emoticon).

Martha is doing well apart from the fact she is pooing 4x a day at the moment. I don't think I mentioned that she developed a lactose intolerance just before we left the UK and we put her onto Soya milk which cleared it up instantly. We are going to try that again, if not I will take her to the dr's as she might have picked up a bug (not difficult here where we only use bottled water for drinking and cooking and have to clean all our fruit and veg in milton...).

Anyway otherwise her 3rd tooth appears to finally be pushing through; she is sleeping ok most nights - not quite going through but usually only one or two wakes for the dummy so bearable. We had to leave her to cry a few nights back but we only had to do it for three nights in a row and she has been fine since.

Well I will check in again when I can, good luck for all those going back to work.

Oh and come on. SOMEONE must be pregnant again by now. Come on. Fess up. Which one of you is it????? (and no it won't be me as DH had the snip before leaving the UK).

BouncingTurtle · 15/08/2008 18:38

Hey Claraq!! Glad you are well - is dd1 coping better with the move now?
Definitely not pg! Why are you

I think I put a wee too much garlic in ds's tea as he now has stinky garlic breath
Ah well garlic's good for his heart
And hoorah - today is the first day in what seems like ages that it hasn't rained!!!

Caz10 · 15/08/2008 21:05

Oooh yum what did you make for his tea BT?!

Hee hee Clara - my DH declared today that I "have a year to get pregnant again" - as if this is something I can just sort out on my own!! Have to say I really don't fancy it yet, but am conscious of being a bit of an old bint.... 2 under 2 is not for the faint-hearted I would imagine, don't know if I'd manage!

No teeth here either!

Managed a swim after work today (with dd, so more of a splash about), very nice to switch off and do a "mummy" thing after being back.

BouncingTurtle · 15/08/2008 21:10

Cool - good for you about swimming!
I gave ds some Plum Organic carrot, parsnip and cheddar cheese mash with some pasta and added some garlic and herbs to liven it up a bit!

macdoodle · 15/08/2008 21:17

Lily slept from 7pm to 6:20am last night - after a few nights from hell gave her a good dose of both calpol and brufen as her teeth seem to be really bothering her..she also had a full bottle of formula instead of a breast feed....
So tried the same tonight except she wanted a BF top up after 8oz of formula as well
What are my chances of that happening again

Jewelsandgems · 15/08/2008 22:13

Hi guys teeth are bothering DD too, she is also getting really aggressive and grabbing by face and chewing my chin! And it hurts! She was up last night because of it (and she never wakes in the nght anymore) and after some ibroprofen she settled ok. May try the calpol and ibroprofen mix if need be tonight.

She has been attempting to crawl again today, but keeps falling glat on her face! And my other DD has been crawling around trying to show her how it's done.

Looking forward to the weekend! And then DH has a 2 week course followed by 5 days of exams so a) no time for myself for the next 3 weeks b) no yoga or pilates and c) he will be out of the door by 8am and not back til 6!! God let's hope I cope!

Anyway, off for the dreamfeed and then zzzzz for me

Night!

BouncingTurtle · 16/08/2008 11:54

Jewels - awww there is so cute of your dd1 showing dd2 what to do!

Found a great way of entertaining ds while getting dress - we have mirrored doors on our wardrobes so I plonked him down in front and was absolutely entranced - kept patting the mirror and laughing at himself in the mirror - so cute Though there was few tears when he got a bit enthusiastic and head butted himself! Soon forgot it though!

cazzybabs · 16/08/2008 12:31

OHHH my friend won a bronze!!! we are all very exciited apart from Evie whop wanted to play the piano.

Caz - well done for swimming!!! I must make more effort else I will be very limited in terms of work clothes.

BouncingTurtle · 16/08/2008 14:13

Was it the cyclist? Well done to your friend, Cazzy!

claireybee · 16/08/2008 20:20

Hi everyone just a quick catch up as am at my grans ready for my cousins wedding tommorrow.

A lot has gone on...

I had said to dh ages ago that I didn't want to move yet, not because i didn't want the bigger house but because |i knew it would be down to me to scrub the house to ensure we got our deposit back, do all the packing etc. He suddenly pushed on with looking at houses anyway (don't get me wrong | am glad he did because I love the space of our new house) but it did fall onto me to get everything organised and not only with a 2 year old and an 8 month old but also on 2 hours broken sleep a night! Anyway i was getting really stressed out because ds wasn't sleeping and I was spending so much time trying to get him to sleep so i could gte on with other things that in the end I thought sod dh saying not to let him cry I am the one dealing with this all and rushing around trying to pack up and clean an entire hopuse in the 30 minutes ds would nap for so put ds in his cot and let him cry for as long as it took me to have a wee, or eat breakfast, or vaccuum the living room etc. I'd already done a few days of that babywhisperer thing of staying with him and lying him down 100000000x but it wasn't working, just seemed to enrage him and I was getting so stressed out with it. leaving him to cry for a few minutes was actually far easier for me because it meant I wasn't stood over the cot thinking for gods sake just SLEEP so i can do stuff.

Anyway it also seemed to suit ds better because he would cry when I left the room then settle and go to sleep with me next to him when I went back in whereas me staying with him the whole time just made him cross. Also getting on with stuff while he was crying meant I wans't sat there listening to him and made it far easier for me too! Now he usually cries when I first leave the room but settles as soon as I go back in, although sometimes it takes a lot longer. he has also settled a coupkle fo times without any crying, the other night when i posted being one of them.

I was also unsure about cc because I didn't think I'd be able to do it in the middle of the night, but i read a few things that said that it is ok to use different methods for night wakings than for bedtimes so that is what i did. basically i feed him the first time he wakes then not for 4 hours. if he wakes before 4 hours I settle him using whatever means I need to. his sleep is so much better now, looks like is just what he needed! Last night he woke at 9.45 then slept until 3.30!

Anyway enough about sleep!

Ds is standing unsupported now and walking really well pushing the bricks trolley, he tried to take a step away from the sofa yesterday though and fell on his face

New house is good, so much space. DD loves it, cried this afternoon when we left for my grans saying "I want to go back in my new house". The previous tenants have changed the phoneline from BT though ad we don't know who to so BT won't give us a line. Previous tenants have disappeared so no way of finding out who theri line is with so no landlijne and no internet. It is killing me!

Also person who was moving into old house pulled out so landlord and agents called us and said we were still liable for rent until end of sept (when our notice period would have ended if they hadn't found someone else). REALLY annoyed as if they hadn't found anyone we wouldn't have moved out and would have just paid the holding deposit on this one until the end of our notice period. paying both lots of rent is more than our income so no way we can but we argued it and fingers XXX'd-CAB seem to think they can't make us pay because we moved out after they told us someone else was moving in, after all she couldn't have moved in if we were still living there.

sorry abou t the typos and ramblingness, different keyboard so keep hitting wrong keys and am rushing which makes it worse. will try to get back on and catch up properly soon

suey2 · 16/08/2008 20:34

cool clairey! I thought your ds would be wlking soon- mollie is nearly there. Many fewer crashes and she pulls up, lets go with one hand and then lets go with he other for a second or two. She pulled a dining chair on top of her today, though: we are in marthas vineyard now and I haven't got a handle on all the hazards yet; that chair has been put where she can't get at it. Glad the sleep is better too.

BouncingTurtle · 16/08/2008 21:29

Clairey - wow - your ds is doing very well!
Glad you like your new house, and hope you can get your dispute with your old landlords sorted - their problem if their renters pulled out - surely they should have had deposit/1st month rent from them before they released you??

Hi Suey - at the chair, hope you dd is ok, you cannot take your eyes off them for a second! I nearly dropped ds on his head last night had picked him out of his cot last night and was carrying him to my chair when I tripped and fell forward and he kind of fell in my arms but managed to pull him and myself back up - he was already crying, shock of it made him cry harder! He was okay though!

Ambi · 16/08/2008 22:05

I haven't read through yet, but a quick wave to you all.

I now feel firmly home with all this rain and cold. We landed home at 1am this morning so I'll be off to bed shortly! Holiday was fab, louise was a dream, I was dreading taking her abroad but she was so good. DH spent most of the time with her so it was good for him. It was sooo hot, over 30 degrees most days, I could only spend about half an hour out before my skin felt like it was sizzling. I didn't want to leave, a week wasn't long enough.

I hate posting and running, it feels rude . I will catch up with you tomorrow, before my return to work on Monday .

Caz10 · 16/08/2008 22:22

posting and running here too ambi! just to say good luck for monday!

claireybee - sleep success - well done!!!! send some my way!

suey2 - v jealous of your hols - have a big piece of blueberry pie for me, oh and a crabmeat roll thingy too

cazzybabs · 17/08/2008 10:52

BT - no she was a rower....

Louise76 · 18/08/2008 14:03

Hello all

First of all I have to say so sorry to BT. I didn't mean to offend you, BT. As someone said, this is not the thread for working FT v SAHM debate. I shouldn't have put my thoughts in writing.

I was just expressing my personal opinion and I'm certainly not saying that my situation will work out for the best. Firstly I'm not even back at work yet and secondly, every day I doubt my ability to be a mother and feel as if I'm doing everything wrong.

I really didn't mean to cause offence

I'm just going to crawl in to the corner and cry now. I may come back in a few days if you'll have me