December 07 - I'm still standing, yeah, yeah, no!

[Wizzska]

Hello people, is anyone there?

Well (I know I am a bad mother) but the chances are they haven't got it so I sould carry on going out.

Apparently he definitely has it, and there was a bump at last weeks bumps and babes, someone has kindly agreed to cover! So that's a relief.
I'm just going to hope neither of us gets it this week. So far so good, ds is pretty well atm. And eating like a horse!
How is everyone else? Hope you all had good weekends!

ohhh just noticed evie has her 1st tooth.

BT Fingers crossed that you and Daniel don't get chicken pox. MIL has shingles so we didn't go to see her last weekend as that can cause chicken pox from what i've been told.

Cazzy Congratulations to Evie for her 1st tooth

Ethans thrush seems to have almost cleared up, he's got his appetite back and is back to sleeping through.
Not much else happening really. I'm starting to sort out bits for our hols. Its amazing the amount of stuff 2 lo's need, i also need to take 2 weeks supply of milk and jars of food...about 30 jars

Fifisboys - don't forget nappies!!
Glad Ethan is on the mend

Cazzybabs - wow congrats on Evie's tooth

Daniel is getting more and more mobile every day Going to make Dh lower the cot tonight before he goes to bed, not sure how he'll like it, but he was sat in the cot while I was hanging a cross stitch my friend made in his room and he was trying to pull himself up

BT Yeah, about 150 nappies need to go in as well
Ds1 wont use the potty yet but he'll be running round in shorts all day so i'm hoping to just put a nappy on him when we go for our meals and for bed.
I know what you mean about being mobile, Ethans not crawling yet but rolls everywhere and even changing his nappy can be a challenge.

Beckle good luck to your Dh with the job interview! And once again excellent post

And no I did not test but came on Saturday!! YAY!!! And no I am not BFing and am usually very regular but - looking back in my diary and working it out from there + was I on while we were on holiday kind of questions, saturday was bang on for when I should have come on. And I had missed an entire period out of my diary - not make that mistake again!!!

Cazzy well done on Evie's firth tooth (and lovely name BTW )

Sorry have not been around for ages girls but DH has been putting in some long hours at the office so I have been looking after the girls near enough 24-7 for the last few weeks. And more to come as he is on a course for the next 2 weeks, finishing off with a massive exam! So, even the weekends will be spent with his head in a book and me.....tearing my hair out most likely!!

Izzy has started making her first little baby words "gaaaaa-gooooo!" seems to be her favourite! And still no crawling yet but she does get herself into her hands and knees, but can't do anything but push off and fall flat on her face! She is still an avid roller, and fifi I know what you mean re the rolling! Izzy is rolling, trying to sit, stuff feet in mouth etc etc (she had hold of the sudocreme the other day...)

I do find she is growing up so fast right now, like every day she is losing her babyness - makes me sad and happy at the same time.

Jewels - IKWYM about them losing their babyness. I do miss the newborn stage a bit
Beckle - best of luck to your DH - hope he gets the job!
Fifi - 150? Are you sure that's enough
Still no sign of chicken pox though ds was very whingy this afternoon and fell asleep in my arms before 6pm! He woke up again for a feed at around 7.30.

Hello ladies!

In a nutshell...

back to work on THURSDAY I am heartbroken to be leaving dd and panicking over my lack of work preparation.

Oh, and dd seems to be teething and is not sleeping for more than 1hr at a stretch, so I am also knackered.

Not having a good week!!!

However dd is great, so smiley, eating well, chatting loads, not moving but I'm quite happy about that!!

Oh- and no mumsnet access at work!!

Good to read all your news, will catch up properly asap x

Aww Caz {sad]
I've still got a couple of weeks to go... I think I'm in denial!

Question - do any of you have babies that move around alot in their cot? We often find ds lying horizontally in his cot, even though we always put him in the feet to foot position. I guess he is shuffling around in his sleep!
when we've tried moving him back he wakes up!

Caz about work. I remember leaving ds1 to go back to work. I kept crying the day before and when i got to work and people asked how he was i kept filling up
I've got 6 weeks left, in a way im looking forward to the break

BT Yes, we put ethan feet to foot and i dont know why as he's often horizontal or his heads where his feet were meant to be. If he's not in his sleeping back his legs are often sticking through the bars of the cot

Caz - Oh I spent the 1st day in tears in the toilet both times I have been back at work and leaking breast milk- how attractive. And thats thats thw worst thing about teaching - there is no where to hide until play times, but you are also busy.

I am back in 3 weeks too

Just a quick post to say thinking of all of you who are returning to work in the next few weeks/months. If it makes any of you feel any better I loved my job that I left so am quite of you, but saying that every action has a reaction and all that, and me now having 2 children, the reaction is I have to buckle down and do some serious mothering!! DH and I have been discussing if I will return to work ever and t is such a hard decision to make. On one hand, we could enjoy a comfrtable lifestlye (though not that luxurious) without me working, and if this is the case we would move to the country and try and enjoy that lifestyle I.E chickens, homegrown organic veg, that kind of thing. BUT, the other option is for me to start working again, be ableto afford a massive house, have all the gadgets/clothes/cars etc. With this option though we could not live in the country as my work is in the city, and we would not see the children that much at all. Are any of you wondering about what kind of life you want for you and your family?!!

I am totally about which one is best.

Jewels - I would love to stay off with my ds's but atm can't afford to ].
We are ok for money with my smp and dp's wage but we want to clear off our debts and move abroad in a few years.
If i had the option it would definatly be to be here all the time, at least until they start school.

definitely jewels. It was obvious to me afterabout 3 months that I would struggle to be a SAHM. For me, part time working is perfect. I am not a country person so no dilemma there. But when dd was 2 months old I could not imagine going back to work

Evening all!

aaargh I've been in tears all day - I had to empty my nappy bag as I've been using it as a handbag for 8mths and I was in bits taking all her wee things out....

I feel like I will never see her again, so silly, I'm actually lucky when you consider I live 2 mins away from work and will be home in LOADS of time for dinner, bath, bed etc.

cazzy I'm hoping the biz will keep my mind off her as much as possible, iyswim...good luck for when you go back

in fact good luck to everyone when they go back if you are needing to! i had no idea it would be this hard

This is just my personal viewpoint and I don't want to start a SAHM fight, but my opinion now is that you shouldn't work full time unless you really have to. Not sure on the other hand if I would cope with the reality of being a Ft SAHM either though, for me the ideal will be part time 2 or 3 days a week, and we will be doing that as soon as we can afford it. Just wish we could afford it now!!

jewels I've been giving that type of thing a lot of thought and it's very difficult - I often feel sad i won't be able to give dd the kind of upbringing I had - we lived in a fairly big house, my mum didn't need to go back to work until I was about 10, and we had a holiday every year.

Poor dd has a mum going back at 8mths, skint and stuck in a tiny falling down house, no holidays for the foreseeable future...BUT dh and I are both agreed that we are quite happy to live as cheaply as poss at least until dd (and possible dc2) goes to school, if it means I can go PT

OK rant over!!

BT good luck to you, has ds tried any settling in sessions yet? DD shuffles all over the place in her cot too! Although I have to say, her sleep is so bad right now she is in with me a lot

Aw Caz - I hope you are OK when you start back at work. I am going back on 2nd October and I'm starting to dread it already. Mind you I know I am lucky - I am only working 2 days a week and dd will be looked after by my mum and dad one day and by dh the other (he has reduced his hours slightly to get an extra day off)

It is an impossible choice - I agree with you Caz. I know my view probably offends some people but I can't see the point of having kids then working full time and putting them in childcare 8am-6pm Mon-Fri. You would miss so much. I agree with Suey and Jewels though - I don't think being a SAHM would suit me even if it was an option financially - I think you need a certain amount of adult conversation!

Impossible is the word!

I do agree with you to an extent, although I know I can't say anything because I'm going back FT...BUT dh will be doing a lot of the childcare - if we were both Mon-Fri 9-5 I think it would be different. PLus I fully intend to cut back my hours as soon as we can afford it.

A lottery win is the answer!!!

Caz , best wishes for tomorrow, I can't imagine how hard it will be, am totally dreading going back for the 2 evenings a week that I work. Whatever you are worrying that DD does not have, she does have the most important thing in the world and that is a Mother who adores her.

Louise, I agree with you about people choosing to have children and putting them in FT childcare through their own choice, I don't see the point. However, some people do have no choice and it is those people I really feel for.

Bouncing, how are you and Daniel? Hope you do not both have Chicken Pox although when my friends little boy had it at 8 months old he barely noticed it even though he was covered in spots. Evie also moves around lots in her cot which is why we started putting her in a grobag instead of blankets, she is often diagonal or even sideways with legs poking through the bars (even in the grobag!). She has also started to try and pull herself up on things although can't manage it yet (except onto her knees to get toys from her toy basket).

Fifi, I don't envy you your holiday packing, wouldn't know where to begin for 2 weeks worth! I am panicking over what to pack for 3 days!

Cazzy, congrats on Evie's first tooth!

Jewels, hoorah for the arrival of your period (strange thing to say I know but you know what I mean)! Evie was doing the same as Izzy earlier last week, onto hands and knees, pushing off, flat on face - on Monday she started to crawl properly, quite slow but getting quicker by the day! IKWYM about feeling happy and sad at the same time too, I don't want DD to grow up too fast but at the same time I can't wait to see what she'll do next! I would love to have a more rural lifestyle, I keep begging DH for chickens although we live on an estate! We are semi-rural though, we live in a market town in the middle of lots of villages.

Hi Suey, hows things? Are you back from hols already? When is your scan?

Has one of you ladies requested to join the MNDec07 Facebook group? Have had a request come through but not sure who it is so haven't approved it yet!

Thanks for your good wishes for DH's job interview BT and Jewels, keeping everything crossed at the moment although haven't heard anything yet.

Left DD with someone other than DH last night for the first time! Fed her before we went (didn't take much as it was early), she drifted off on my SIL who put her to bed around 9. When my boys went up they woke her and she then cried for 20 mins before drifting off again. I don't think she was sleeping deeply though as when I went to bed, she heard my voice and pushed herself up in the cot, looking at me and smiling! After a cuddle I put her on the bed while I got ready for bed and she didn't stop smiling at me, huge great grins! Bless her! We went to see Lee Evans last night, he was so so funny! We hung around afterwards too and we got to meet him! He seemed really nice, probably just wanted to go home but he spoke to everyone who was waiting to see him!

Oh poor Caz {{{{{hugs}}}}}

Believe me, if I had the choice I wouldn't be going back full time. Daniel will be in nursery from 8.30-5pm because I work 30mins away from his nursery, I looked at maybe putting him in a closer one but it was totally impractical as DH works 50mins in the opposite direction to me!
I am looking for another job closer to home, but tbh I like my job and I like the people. But the reality we could not reduce my hours because we need my income to pay the rent.
Now I'm going to have stop here becuae Louise's comments have rwally upset me.
I know she didn't mean it but they have.

BT {{{hugs}}} to you too. I am so lucky that I have never been the main wage earner and it would cost me more to put the DCs in childcare than I could possibly earn, means I get to stay home!

Everyone is in different positions, some work because they can't afford not to, some stay home because they can't afford to work - funny old thing really. Am lucky that the affordable option for me is the one I'd choose anyway (even if it means working on a checkout in the evenings).

[hugs] BT too, but it is me who should apologise as I am the one who brought up this whole topic of conversation. I know children with SAHMs [like me] who are happy little children, and parents with children in childcare and they are happy with it too (and I mean the children look forward to going to CM/nursery and love it!)

zips mouth shut

I'm going back to work part time which is what i done after i had ds1, but tbh the only reason i'm not ft is because i can't afford ft childcare, and my sil and dad are having the ds's between them on days off/after work etc so i'm lucky in that sense.

I hope everyone's had a nice day, it's rained all day here and i hope it clears up as im going to town tomorrow night for bf's birthday

Thanks... I'm ok.

Louise - of course you are entitled to your opinion but I found your comment 'can't see the point of having kids then working full time and putting them in childcare 8am-6pm Mon-Fri' extremely hurtful - by implication you are suggesting that I shouldn't have had my son.
We are all bringing up our babies in different ways which may be at odds with each other, but I thought this thread was all about supporting each other - and therefore not openly criticising each other's parenting decisions. And I'm confident that every single one of us have babies who will benefit from our different methods of raising them and will become fine upstanding citizens .

I haven't been feeling too well, another migraine so have been feeling a bit down anyway, and DS has been very trying today.
Feeling a bit better now, and once again he is ensconced in front of Cbeebies and is perfectly happy - he was having a big angry screaming fit about 20minutes ago, resisting be fed, cuddled etc.
Settling in sessions are next Thurs and Fri then the following Tues & Thu. The last session is 6 hours so I've booked myself into the hairdressers as I haven't been since last year! Going to have a cut and cover up of all the grey!