December 07 - I'm still standing, yeah, yeah, no!

[Wizzska]

Hello people, is anyone there?

Oh no Amani, hope DD2 was ok!
So it seems as hough your HV is being a wee bit inconsistent - I hope she is not causing you to worry unnecessarily! my friend had the opposite problem, her baby is a big lad, and her friend (whose baby is 6 weeks older, but showing similar weights at the same ages as my friend's ds) was told her baby was too fat! So my poor friend was worried she was going to get a telling off anf the HV said his weight was fine!

Caz10 - i've looked in the DS's diary for you!

Breakfast - typically cereal, toast and fruit, though he has been having cereal mixed with EBM which I supply.

Lunch - he has had tuna pasta bake, chicken supreme & savoury rice, minced lamb and savoury rice, pork, potato wedges & gravy, spag bol & garlic bread, fish pie, tuna and broccoli bake. For pudding they have fruit, yoghurt, sponge & custard, cake, bananas and custard, fruit crumble and custard

Tea - baked beans on toast, cheese on toast with veg sticks, cheese sandwiches and salad, crumpets, cheese scones. For after they have fruit or yoghurt or cake.

Snacks are usually fruit(peaches, plums, bananas, melon & grapes) or veg sticks(tomato, celery, cucumber and beetroot).

It's a very good menu, everything is locally sourced and things like sauces and cakes and puddings are all cooked from scratch with no added salt and minimum of sugar.

I've going to pinch a few ideas myself for the weekend, but I do find he seems to nap longer at home and want to bf more so less opportunity for actual meals. I guess as he gets older he'll nap less and want to bf less!

h forgot to say happy anniversary Skidaddle!

Skidaddle - congaturlations. That is just like my dh...

Mind you he did buy me a Wii Fit so he is in my good books...mind you it is not. It told me I had a Wii fit age of 43 cheeky thing. It is because I have no sense of balance. Mind you I have got it down to 32 so all is not lost!

Cazzy at your DH buying you a wiifit!

Well ds is very snotty atm, been fine in himself, Sunday night he was waking up every 2 hours, though settled better when I squirted some saline up his nose (that was popular ). So I did it again at bed time and we had a better night.
He looks like he is cutting a tooth (first one!) on his top gum, can see something white poking through!!

Claraq - yes I made a lentil, sweet potato & carrot curry and ds liked that! I need to be more organised and make stuff that is baby friendly! The idea is we are supposed to do what some of you are doing, i.e. give what ever we're eating!

thanks for the congrats - DH outdid himself and when i got home there was a huge bunch of flowers and a card waiting for me and then he took me to a lovely carribean restaurant and was very sweet so I think I need to eat some humble pie

cazzy - that sounds great fun finding out your fitness age - I would love to do that. I always think of myself as being quite fit but I reckon I would get a right shock if I actually did it - how did you get down from 43 to 32?!

bouncing - usually the pain goes once the tooth is poking through so fingers crossed for a better night for you tonight. Having said that Milo now has 4 poking through (all came together) but his night don't seem to have improved!

Skid - congrats. It only seems like yesterday you went off to get married. Hope you enjoyed the Caribbean restaurant - I went off Jamaican food after living there but some Caribbean food is delicious. Snap on the teeth - dd2 had four through at once and was hell. She seemed better but is up there screaming at the moment and has been for last half hour. She goes to sleep in my arms but wakes as soon as I put her down so I am leaving her. I realise I might sound a little harsh but I am so sick of various screaming children I can't be bothered anymore.

Would give her what we have but at least 50%of the time it's too spicy at the moment. Or we're eating out. Or it is totally unsuitable in other ways. But she does often get what we have served up the next day, as does dd1. Oh and if we are eating as a family she usually has quite a bit off our plates, like toast or chips.

Screaming has stopped....am desperate for my curry sitting their waiting for me....

hi clara - how are things going generally over there? Have you met nice people and feel you're settling in yourself apart from the DDs? Am quite of all the talk of spicy food..

Synpathies with the screaming - sometimes you need just to switch off and sit down for a second. My DH had both DCs full time for two weeks and said he has a newfound respect and awe for all full-time parents - every evening I came home to find him tearing his hair out - does anyone else with two feel like it's getting hard again after becoming (relatively) easy? Could be the crawling/teething/independence thing maybe?

Claraq - poor you, you sound like you are at the end of your tether! Sometimes you just have to walk away to get your cool back.
I hope things get better for you soon. Are you making friends out there, epecially with children the same age as the dds?

Skid - wow, your DH came through then

Had a medical today (required by company) and I left feeling and
Firstly he was questioning my breastfeeding, asking me if DS had teeth!! Then when I said I think DS is cutting his first he said, oh well you won't be able to bf anymore WTF???
Then he came across as very critical of the fact I work full time, and that I should feel totally shitty leaving ds with another person to be looked after!! He kept really labouring the point that it is hard leaving ds in nursery, yes I know it is fucking hard, so why the fuck are you rubbing my face in it
And if that wasn't enough he suggested I should look for another job and that so should DH when I mentioned he works 50 miles away from where we live!!!!!!

I just laughed it off, because if I hadn't I think I would have either cried or twatted him

Wanker of the highest order IMVHO

Sorry about the rant...

Hello Everyone,

Long time no chat again!! Feel a bit bad gate crashing as I haven't been able to keep up at all, but I've just scanned the last couple of pages and am so impressed with what your babes are eating. I can only get K to eat smooth things ahe still refuses anything vaguely lumpy and mainly only eats fruit, yogurt and sweet potato!! Help! please tell me I'm not the only one, she 9 months this week. I'm still bf (a lot) but I have to go back to work in 6 weeks and realy need to try and get her more interested in juice/water/formula and food!!! Any tips?!

hi melly!
i wouldn't worry- K will probably discover an appetite when there is no breast available! I still have caz's mantra (food is for fun until they are one) going around in my head

OMG bouncing, what a tw*t - I would definitely have cried so well done for being able to laugh it off - at you and your DH should get different jobs - as if it is as easy at that, as for the BF comments - what a misinformed idiot who shouldn;t be a doctor if he is so ignorant of the health benefits of BF - am on your behalf

hi melly!! Good to see you back. DS was a bit like your DD for a while and I thought it was because he had so many BFs it was really hard for him to adjust to this new way of eating - I know it's hard but I would just hang in there and as suey says when you're not around she will probably be happy to eat other stuff - it is just when she has the choice between food and a BF she goes for a BF IYKWIM

Oooh so good to hear from you guys, have missed our chatting, but I just never seem to have much opportunity to log in, my MIL staying this week so I actually find myself awake enough in the evening to log in and catch up. Sure I have missed so much though - is anyone pregnant again yet? Anyone's babe walking?
Come on I need you to fill me in on what I've been missing I need the good gossip!!!!!!
Will try and upload some recent pics of Kaesha too (if I can remember how!!)
Love and hugs to you all xxxxxxxx

Have done it!! My God my sleep deprived brain still remembers how to work some things! Have a peek at my girl if you fancy it, she's a cheeky one!

Hi Melly! She's lovely
My ds is the same as your dd and Skid's ds - less interested in food at weekend when there is boobie available than during the week at nursery!

I'm like Suey - I have that "food is for fun until they're one" going round my head too!!

Hi Mellymooks, welcome back, I was wondering how you were doing. How is good old glos? Hopefully not flooded again this year! I do miss Cheltenham, especially the shops!

BT - what a total prat that dr is! You wonder where/when these people do their training. Did he explain why you wouldn't be able to breastfeed once your baby has a tooth? What does he think happens with all those people who breastfeed until their babies are 2+ - they pull their teeth out or something? And how insensitive to make those comments about leaving him at nursery. I would have had a few choice words for him! I hope you are able to laugh it off as some dinosaur who obviously doesn't live in the real world!

Skid (and BT), yes we are now settling in really well. There are loads of people here with young families, including quite a few with children in dd1's nursery. So we often get together for lunch and/or a swim when we pick them up at 12.30pm. It's a lovely little community although very much like living in the Trueman Show! Our nanny is brilliant with the children, especially dd2, and often has her while I do things either on my own (gym, or the shopping which is quite a business as you can't just go to one supermarket, you have to trawl around 4 or 5 shops to get everything you need)or with dd1.

Unfortunately it's really hard to see anything of the "real" Pakistan due mostly to security restrictions. But also because the only places we are allowed to go to (eg the far north and Lahore) are quite hard to get to, we thought we would wait until dd2 is a little older until we explore as she is not a great traveller at the moment!

The food here is delicious (we can't eat in local restaurants as they are out of bounds but I get my nanny to cook us curries every week). I am going to try and learn a few dishes for when I go home so I can impress people with my culinary skills (ahem).

It is dd1's third birthday on Saturday and I am going to try and bake a cake. You only realise how important pork is to birthday parties (little sausages, ham on pizza etc) when you can't get it! We are only having about 6 children over as I can't face a big do, but I am dreading it! I have told everyone not to expect too much!

Well that's it from the frontline for now. Hope you are all ok and not too knackered.

Morning all. Jeez, I remember the days when i seemed to have hours to play on mn and keep in touch with everyone! just snatching a couple of minutes now before dd vaults out of the playnest again.
only had time to read the most recent page of msgs but dd is too being a little b@@%%$r about eating. breakfast's usually okay, but lunch and dinner are a nightmare. has 2 or 3 spoons then refuses to eat more off spoon. is still hungry but wants to self-feed, but with v sharp gnashers (3 so far, 2 more on way) she has a habit of biting off way more than she can chew (bit like her mama!). i wonder how long she can live off bread and fromage frais...
BT - OMG what a total pillock (can I say that on mn) yr dr seems to have been! i too am still happily bf, despite dd's teeth, because she is still a BABY and BABIES NEED MILK. I can't get my head round people suggesting (as have done to me - hv said it first!!!!!) that bf should be replaced with ff because babies still need lots of milk until they're 1. surely if you're giving formula you could/should be giving bm?
is crazy world in which we live.

the real reason for this post is that family marmalade is making an expedition to london this weekend, and i wondered if suey or any other urban types would like to meet up, probably on monday 15th. we're going to be in islington but have oyster card, will travel. am trying to think of good place to suggest meeting but brain is slow. i'll be on mn again tomorrow so if anyone is around and has a bright idea about time/place we can sort smtg out.

Hello all

Hope all of you and your babes are well.

I've missed loads so won't even try to catch up.

DD seems to be at a similar stage to everyone's from having a quick skim - she is rolling around the room, not quite brave enough to crawl and likes to stand up and lean against/hold on to the couch.

Re eating - she is doing quite well although has days when she refuses to eat.

Someone (sorry can't remember who) asked about meals. Here are some that dd eats

cauliflower and/or broccoli in cheese sauce
chicken/turkey casserole
lentil & veg soup
creamy lentil/meat curry

She usually has cereal and toast for breakfast and loves anything that comes in a little pot! (petits filous, yoghurt, fruity custard desserts).

Unfortunately it looks as if she has a sweet tooth like mum!

hey louise! Good to have you back
Dundee sadly no go as I am back at work

Isn't this phase great? So much giggling and rolling around. She is stillscaring the life out of us: now by standing playing with a toy and not holding or leaning on anything. We had a lot of fun with some ripe raspberries at teatime, but very messy indeed!

Hi Louise!

Yes, ds was pulling himself and standing up against his toy box! He also stood up in his cot as well He also has a sweet tooth!

Ds has also cut his 1st tooth, but when I looked this morning I can see the start of 2 more

He's still full of cold as well and producing copiouos amounts of snot!

Hello! Lovely hearing from you, really like that food is fun until they're one, gonna keep chanting that to myself!
No floods in our neck of the woods this time Clara though is always a worry esp. as we have a stream at the bottom of the garden and last year it got very close to coming in!
Left Kaesha for 2 and half hrs today and missed her so much how am I gonna cope at work all day?!
Trying to cut down on the bf's in the hope she might start to get interested in some other form of drink but no joy so far.....

Melly - DS was the same but at nursery he soon started drinking water - he was thirsty, it was offered he drank! I think a lot of it is 'peer pressure' he sees the other babies drinking from cups and so is more likely to do it himself!
He doesn't have any milk at nursery during the day because he would only take a mouthful before rejecting it but he drinks cupfuls of water and eats a varied diet during the day - the BM he makes up for during the evening and night!

WAAAAAAAAAH! I typed a really long message which started asking you all to celebrate my return to paragraphs, broadband and sensible postings and what happened? The bloody computer crashed! I am doomed! Can't be bothered to type it all out again now, will catch up later

Anyone rememeber how 2 weeks ago I had that wierdy pregnancy like illness? Well, I was ovulating, my period came back this morning.

Very proud mum emoticon - Martha took her first steps 2 days ago. She had been standing unsupported all week and then was so desperate to get a necklace a friend of mine was wearing, she suddenly took two steps towards her!She was 9 months, one day old!

Since then she's stopped even standing on her own so I think it scared the bejeesus out of her.

Sorry if I am boasting, but I very proud! And like Suey absolutely loving this age!

cool clara! Millie keeps standing on her own playing with a toy, but hasn't figured out she could try walking yet