Jan '07 part 26: The Rule of Sibs: If your sibling gets something you want, you (1) try to take it; (2) break it; or (3) say it's no good

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The thread title is for the January babies who have become/are soon to be big brothers and sisters

Can't remember all from last thread except
Wilie congrats on the move and hope visit to vino goes broodily well
eandh - potty?!! Aleady?!! I'm only just getting there with ds1!!
DH - I went to a wedding on due date with ds1, but that was because I wanted him out. Alas, despite energetic ceilidhing, to no avail! Also went to Halifax for a wedding when about 38 weeks with ds2 (on Loosh's ds's bday in fact!), was a little nervous in case I went into labour so far from home, but didn't exactly expect to go early (just as well, eh?). But I guess is different if you're going for a c/s

Just been sat in our garden on the laptop. Really nice temperature. Bit dark now so had to come in.
Lo's room is north facing, so she's fine in just a nappy and sheet sleeping bag.

Monster Munch - I haven't had them for ages. Do they stgill do pickled onion flavour that makes you pull funny faces as they're so pickled?

Stroppy child here too EAH!

PCF - did they check his ears and throat? J always gets temps with ear and throat infection. Poor little M

PCF - what a nightmare for you! Glad to hear Alex is being such a star for you! Have you got a garden he can go and play in?

I lost the message I typed this morning. It was my own fault as laptop lost power, couldn't work out why then realised (tonight) that I had switched on socket but not plugged lead into laptop. Dippy vino.

Not really got much to say today. Eating some thorntons chocs (dessert gallery) that are yummy! An unexpected pressie from nice neighbour friend today.

Where are you all hiding xx

pcf hope max better soon

vin -the 2children brain hitting you now (forgetting to plug laptop in!)

LTH - Hows the holiday organinsing going

ud - is that baby growing or kfc again

Had a busy few days went to my nans yesterday so day at seaside for girls and today had playdate with a 'boy' friend (seems strange that she has friends that are boys as she hardly mentions any boys from preschool) from preschool and they had the most fantastic paddling pool so everyone was happy!

Just cooking jacket spud to go with my chicken salad and then need to do my ironing

I know I am probably being really stupid but...

Went to pick J up from nursery tonight and they told me he had been naughty 3 times and had to be told off. He had been pulling hair and smacking the other children. I honestly could have cried. He is normally so placid but has been a bit of a nightmare at home the past week - he is teething. But I am so upset that someone else has seen bad behaviour from him.

I know you second time mums are probably laughing at me but I am really sad.

Do you think there is anything I should be doing to stop him - I always tell him off if he does something naughty - or should I just put it down as a phase

it is a phase and normal behaviour - Hattie can be very sly when she does it will walk past Ellie and pull her hair and literally will not let go, also if I tap her hand for touching something dangerous (fire/oven etc) she'll go to smack my hand back.

It actually got worse with Ellie as she then started biting (normally Eddas dd) but that was dealt with quickly as I hate biting

Wilkie please dont get upset it is a stage but aidans went on from about 2 till around now. I actually think boys are worse and I totally undersatand how upsetting it is to hear from someone else but its only normal. I can remember taking aidan to playgroup from about 8 months and one of my friends little boy was about 20 months and was evil and I thought that will never ever be my child how wrong I was. Its fine you are a fab mum you are learning and so is j go easy on yourself I have cried about it many a night but it changes I think aidan from 2 till around a few months ago I could have necked him. I was just speaking to eah a few minutes ago saying how good he was at playgroup today you ask her backtrack a few months and it was a different story.

I know what you mean Wilkie. I feel like a 'bad mum' if Ellen misbehaves in front of other people. ALthough tbh I have been harsher telling her off since I saw you tell J off so I think you are doing everything right! She bit me for the first time at a friends house last week so I just bit her straight back and it hasn't happened since. I think I would have done it at home too but felt I had to be strict cos we were at someone elese house iykwim.

I have had a pretty calm day becuase Sylvie slept qa lot (hope that doesn't mean we are in for a bad night!). Expressed for the first time and she gulped it all down in one go so look slike no probs when we want to use bottles.

Opened sylvies trust fund, cleaned a bit, did a few jobs and had a walk this afternoon. A girl I have been working with is coming to visit tomorrow morning then well walk to the park in the afternoon which will entertain Ellen.

Morning girls, firstly I'm not sure if really matters as I haven't posted for few days so they're all way down teh thread but I had all my posts deleted on this thread, and under my other traindriverswife name. I think someone is reading my posts in RL and has got pissed off that I talk to MN and shit between me and dh and not her.
I can't be 100% sure but its starting to piss me right off so from now on I'll avoid any reference to dh and our relationship.

Wilkie, I'd be upset too if someone described G as naughty. Its fine for the big ones because they know whats naughty but I really think at this age they don't really know. I/we have to teach them and they have a whole lot to learn.
G is an annoying little shitbag but its only me whose allowed to say that. I'd even be pissed off if Dh said it.....

You are doing the right thing, they do need to be "told off" when doing something that isn't safe or had bad consquences (hitting, bitting, drawing on walls etc) but I think the nursery saying "he's been naughty 3 times today" is waaaayyyy over the line. ITs their job to teach him too and because they don't have teh relationship to him like you do he'll take longer tp learn that hitting etc is wrong.
If G bit/hit another child I'd do a short loud shout and remove him. It would shock him and would deffo upset him and he'd then associate being upset with bitting/hitting or whatever he'd done...they nursery prob don't shout and where canthey remove him too??

Does that make sense?

Anyway, I'm still in my PJs so need to get on. I have a haircut booked today and need to get my bikini hedge sorted. I usually immac it but its got abit wild lately. The poor woman will have to get the petrol powered mower out first

After some muff mowing pampering its back to the packing.

What joy!

TTFN.

LTH - argh, what a nightamre. I hate the thought of people in RL reading my posts which is why I change my name periodically but under the Wilkie theme. I know one person I think reads my posts from time to time so I'm careful not to make any reference to them IYSWIM.

The nursery actually said 'I'm afraid we've had to sit him down three times today as he was pulling hair and pushing the other children' - they were nice about it and she seemed embarrassed to be telling me. I'm glad they did but all they do is remove them from the situation, sit them down, explain what they have done and then make them give the other child a love.

I don't think that 'discussion' is worth anything at this age - I go for short sharp loud telling off whilst crouching at his eye level. It doesn't seem to do a lot though. I would defo bite him back if he bit but I think smacking him back when he smacks will just make him do it more.

He just constantly shouts 'No No NO NO!!!!' at the minute and then flings himself on the floor. If you go near him he lashes out with his hands - really cross. Often for no reason.

Grrrr!

Wilkie re your last paragraph - I think J may have snuck in our house this morning and I have a little person who is currently laying/rolling on floor with arms and legs flying and screaming 'No'

LTH - thats shit re possible 'reader' if I 'bump' into Eddas on a thread then I'll read her ocmments but I never go searching for her, if she wants to tell me something thats fine if she wasnts to tell MN well its her perogative {sp} Good luck for the shearing beauty treatment!

Vin - How was S last night, maybe she is having a growth spurt? Glad she took bottle ok hope you have a good day today

Well need to get bag packed etc as off to town in a mo catch you later

TBH it didn't really bother me until recently, but its affecting (or effecting, can never rememebr which is right) stuff in RL now.
TBH I feel its her fault for snooping if it is of what shes read.
I knwo its a public forum etc but...well.

Tis annoying now.

Still need to get dressed btw.

I sold some bits on ebay ear;lier thsi week and just had an email to say a part is missing on a travel steamer thing.
I wracked my brains trying to remember.....I ended up just phoning the lady!
I think she was really shocked.

I thought it'd be easier to talk to her rather than email back and forth. I'm really not sure if there was abit missing, I can't remember any other parts. I explained to her how I used it and she decided it'dd prob still work ok.

I feel quite proud of myself for phoning.

Good for you for ringing - I have done that twice both times to chase non payment. It scared the buyers into paying me

EAH - it's a PITA isn't it!!! BTW, how are things with you and DH?

Hi all. Have missed you recently! Just trying to catch up on everyone's news, but don't have much time (as usual...)

I hope you're feeling a bit better about J's behaviour today Wilkie. As everyone else said, little boys (and girls I'm sure, but I know lots of boistrious little boys) are BOUND to be "naughty" every now and again and just need teaching what they can and cant do. I'm sure there's no child in the world that hasn't had a hitting/biting phase... I guess the trick is to just try and get them over it as quickly as possible. I would just ignore them at nursery and concentrate on what you think is the best way to correct bad behaviour at this stage. Freddie is awful sometimes and has big tantrums where he will hit out at me if I'm taking something off him or taking him away from something he wants to play with. I know it can be embarrasing if you're in public though and other people see how horrible they're being!

Lizz, LTH, and anyone else down Sussex way... I need the low-down on Lewes! What's it like? In a strange twist to all our current plans DP wants to move us down to Lewes now!! We've found a business and house for sale down there that we might just about be able to afford. And DP's never been very keen on London. I'm quite happy here though and not sure about Lewes.... Any thoughts on the area generally??

Thanks for your message on FB Vino! Lovely to hear from you. I think we will be up in York before the end of the year (probably October time) so we should definitely try to get together. I'd love to meet Ellen and Sylvie!

Shimmer - my aunt and uncle and cousin and her family live very close to Lewes (and its about an hour or so away from me!) they love it and cousin has just bought a bigger house so that they'll stay where they are for when her ds starts school. It all sounds very exciting!

Wilkie - things okay at the moment he hadnt had a drink at all and when we went to the wedding saturday my dad got him a pint, he drank that but then had a weak lager shandy and a fruit juice, I was !!

Hi all. Physio appointment went really well last week and was a great help. Gave me loads of advice and I got to moan about it all with 3 other women which was nice as if I hear one more person say, 'yes it is uncomfortable at the end isnt it' I might throttle them. It is so painful and after having 2 others, I know not like normal aches and pains. Think it is one of those things that you dont understand unless you have it.

They gave me a tubiegrip (sp?) which while very hot, does help and a brace for if I am walking. You cant sit down in it though so havent used it really.

Luke's birthday went well and he loved all his birthday presents. My dsis and BIL got him 2 goldfish and we managed to kill one after 4 days! I did tell her that I cant even keep a house plant alive though. We have to wait til next week to get another as the lady in the fish shop said we had to wait for our filter to 'mature'.

Was ok having PIL and SIL staying and SIL helped loads. So all went well in the end.

Had appointment to sort date for cs which is quite scary. I am booked in for 21st Aug which is also my dsis' birthday so will be easy to remember!

But I dont want to wait that long so if anyone has any old wives tales, bring them on!!

Wilkie - I'd go nuts if the nursery told me that Z had been naughty when he was there! They don't really "do" naughty at his nursery - they do positive reinforcement which is why I chose it. If he bites or hits (which he seems to have grown out of now) they remove him from the situation and distract. I don't think there's any point in shouting or trying to upset him - although I shout far too much!! The trouble is, I shout so much at the moment that he just looks at me slightly wobbly (which makes me feel bad) and then carries on doing whatever he was doing before!

He's also one who's been flinging himself about shouting NO! No idea why! Boys eh?! Are girls this bad?!?!

UD - girls are just as bad and they whine continously as well (mine were in bed at 6.30 as I had enough by then!)

DH - glad physio worked and that L had a good birthday (and il's were ok ) no idea how to induce labour as both of mone were planned sections too (although hattie did try and make an appearance before christmas but then decided to stay put, I actually remember saying 'its fine I'll labour and then we'll have a new baby for xmas )

Think girls are more sly and sneaky about it all!

Feck Never raing but it pours eh??

UD - don't understand why you'd go nuts it nursery told you Z was naughty?? I would rather know definitely and they do exactly as your nursery does but also make them give the other child a love once the situation has calmed which is what I would do anyway.

I was more upset at the prospect of my little man smacking and pulling hair, not with the nursery

What a shite rainy day. I am in a foul mood made fouler by the above linked incident. DH gone for fish and chips which will f*ck the diet up but never mind. Have massive period