April 2008 - the one where Scorpio and Millie show us all the 'through the night' trick

[Scampmum]

Sorry if someone else has already started one - couldn't find it!

Much better night last night, maybe due to gripe water?

Glad it's you too, Ladybee - I have always been a savoury girl, started getting a slightly sweeter tooth maybe five years ago, ate quite a bit of chocolate pg with DD1, became an official addict whilst pg with DD2 - still firmly addicted.

I brought a nasal aspirator yesterday, I love it, cant believe i would ever get somuch joy out of sucking bogies from a childs nose!

Scorpio damm your 3 day rule, after 3 nights of sleeping through the snot woke her at 2am last night. at your school

Scamp, glad mat nurse did the trick you sound v refreshed, routine v similar to she who shant be named, it's one I pretty much follow and find DS and DD2 both have lunch sleeps at the same time so I get 2 hours of peace and quiet Ive always put in bedrooms for naps if we're in so I can get on without disturbing them. Initially they are not keen but get used to it the more you do it. I also work on a 5 min rule - if still crying after 5 mins would go in (I try not to pick back up).
If youv'e put down for a longer sleep and she's woken to early have you tried rolling on side and patting back to try and get her back off?

Can't remeber who said re feeling isolated, have you tried checking local leisure centres and churches, quite often do activities/coffee mornings in those.

Right fingers crossed for a snot free night now i've sucked it all out

Oh and Peachy - woohoo to the weight gain, great news.

Great news about the weight gain peachy/bas!! Is he very wee??

Ladybee- glad it's not just me! I have an incredible enormous craving for chocolate too!! Do you think it's lack of sleep? I hope it goes at some point

Scamp- Robyn does that half burp thing- a kind of rumbling and then nothing- very annoying. She can do loads of burps and still have wind- I can feel little pockets of air in her tummy and feel lots of bubbles. Am a bit worried cos Chloe was the same as a baby and is now on Movicol for chronic constipation!

Denny- your ds and dd2 are the same ages as my dd1 and 2. dd1 will be 2 in July. Your routine sounds identical to mine too!

he is wee soph, and the weight police (who referred to me and my ilk as the nipple ploice today) are it would seem convinced I have issues

Apparently (as dh gone to work will expand npw) it took 3 to weigh him today , hv, hva who poppped in , and gp who 'happened' to come in too looking for Isaiah. Now, i knew every baby there, there was no bleedin Isaiah.

They seem to have this idea that if he lost weight i wouldnt want to play things differently, or that i am not willing to see a paed. I'm hapy to see a paed, all they do is threaten, not refer.

And if he loses weight they'll have to 'do something'.

Like what, pray? because if he did i'd buy every bottle in the uk until i found one he liked.

but he hasnt lost, sometimes the gain is small but theres always a gain.

I don't know why they feel they have to watch me so closely but the sad thing is that when he did gain I sat there tonight crying thinking sod it, i cant do it any more because of the pressure.

I can do it though. We're off on holiday in 5 weeks and then he'll be within weaning guidelines andi bet he'll fatten then.

but they're draing me down and i wish they'd ack off.

ok, whinge over, will go read other posts now

Morning! Sorry to hear that, Peachy, don't give up, stick to your guns.

DD2 has woken up a couple of times during her 8amish nap - Denny, your trick worked a treat! She settled herself whilst I was in the shower ( - didn't hear her crying till I turned it off, and then she was stopping) and seems to be sleeping soundly now.

Managed to express 5oz this morning in spite of having to do the night feeds (12.45 and 4.45) MYSELF. She settled OK (1hr and 45 mins) and having gone to bed at 9.30 I accumulated a total of nearly 8 hours' sleep. The only thing was she didn't want much of the bottle feed - took about 2.5oz max. Might cut it out tonight - I remember with P the 'dream feed' tended to make no difference and if I recall correctly some of you have noticed the same thing. Then again, DH is out so he can do it when he gets back when she might be hungrier (think it was 10 last night).

thats good going Scamp, for both sleep and expressing!!

Peachy - stick to it, lady, you're doing everything right and you know you are

Well, again, that pump is the best , i got out 4oz this morning from one boob and i have 3oz in the fridge still so dh can give her a bottle today as well!

It was lush to go out last night, we went to the pub and had steak and chips, pudding and coffee. Great, i feel much better now.

Glad that electric pump is working for you scorpio and you can get a bit of me time now. I can express ok but we're still having bottle issues and she won't seem to take more than 2oz for the bottle b4 she has a screaming hissy fit. I shall continue to persevere!

Scamp sounds like your doing nicely, so glad things seem to be sorting themselves out. I felt it took a bit longer to work out a routine with 3 and working out which order to do things in but once your there life seems a bit easier doesn't it.

Peachy if they are still banging on about Bas's weight gain why havn't they referred him onto paeds? Youv'e done so well at sticking to your guns with the amount of grief they are giving you, well done and keep strong. Have you got an appointment yet for his heart?

Soph don't you have another at home aswell? Don't know how you do it, I breathe a sigh of relief at 9am knowing I have till 3.20 with just 2 of them here.

Denny, have you tried tommee tippee bottles? I can post you one to try if you like, save wasting your money?

The closer to breast one? Thats the one we've been using, thanks v much for the offer though v kind of you. She was fine on it for first few weeks but then didn't use for about 3 weeks. She seems to start ok on it but then seems like she sucks too hard and chokes, at that point she goes mad and refuses to have it back. I ordered one with a flow regulator in which has arrived today so will see if that is any better.

ahh, yes, you have one already

Mimi 'goes like a nutter'(dh's words)on her bottle too for the first minute or so until she realises that its not a boob, then she settles but gets alot more windy from a bottle.

DH goes to Norway a week tomorrow He will be away thurs, fri,sat,sun and home late Mon.

That will be hard for me.

It's tougher over the weekend too as there's no school escape. I find cabin fever worse at weekends when DH working so tend to plan trip to park or picnic or something, although it's forcast rain for this weekend isn't it? Might have to get paints and junk modelling out - pants.

Can you plan a day out with friends to break up the monotony?

i think i will see friends on the Friday, but i don't even drive....think i will arrange osmething for the sunday with my other childless friend, maybe she will take us to theme park. Good idea!

It's Mazey Day here this weekend week long festival heresp will have a nice weekend here!

Peachy, so sorry you're having a hard time. But it sounds as if you know what you're doing - its tough when you're getting bad advice.

Scamp - I'm having similar problems with getting both dds to sleep at the same time. I am now leaving dd1 in front of the telly while I settle dd2, but its a bit scary leaving dd1 alone for that long. She screamed for help last night, as I told her to if she needed me. It turned out she had switched telly on to Polish radio and wanted to watch 'the one show' instead . But I think my dd1 is a bit older than yours... well done on potty training. If you can do it, I can at least have a stab at it too...she did do a poo in the potty last week, so small signs of hope...

Saw HV for 6 week check, and she said A was just a very hungry baby, so expect to keep up the enormous number of feeds...I was hoping for a miracle cure!

Scorpio, try to make lovely plans for the weekend when DH is away. It's so hard, especially with all your dcs, but if you plan really nice things all weekend it'll be fine.

Denny, DS isn't great on bottles, he takes a couple of ounces, then stops, then half hour later wants another two ounces.
We've only just bought the tommee tippee ones though, he'll be having a feed with them in a minute.

DS1 just changed DS2's nappy
He reckons DS2 sad to him 'my bum is dirty' (to be fair he was whinging but I was making lunch) and I came into the living room to find him naked, nappyless and DS1 wiping his bum!

We're going to that wakestock thing this weekend, well sunday day&night, but the week after there is a free family festival in Coventry, so we have said we'll take the children to that one just for the saturday and come home. Week after it's DP's brothers bday so might see if he wants to go otu for dinner or something, then week after that it's DP birthday, then we are hoping to have the christening sometime in the couple of weeks after that, and at the end of august there is another festival we are going to it westbury, so hopefully will have quite a fun summer to make up for the tediousness of the summer holidays

Scorpio I saw on the london meet-up threadyou would be good for the summer hols if you can get there? What about you Peachy?Denny? Anyone else? (I think most of the others are in London already) Anyway you can get to London at some point during the hols??

I can come with about 2 weeks notice Reilly finishes school on 24th so whenever after that, though would be good on a friday or monday so dh only misses that day of work iyswim.

i think i am a ps3 widow tonight....am going to watch dirty dancing in our room though

oh and VS, did she get the leaflet? did it help?

Oh also, dreamfeed, makes no difference here at all.

i dont even really know (apart from literally translating) what or how you dreamfeed

not sure about london, would like to but we are away two weeks- might speak to dh, ds2 has been banging on about svience museum for ages

just tried to give bas a bottke . we have the tommee tippee ones too. he didnt scream like he did with dh but wasnt interested either.

realy with myself- i didnt do it because i wanted to, or because he needed it, but because the weight police are driving around the bloody twist.

Trying to get bas into a proper routine from today, gf ain't gonna work for me (8am, have toast, 8.30 have shower, 8.32 retrieve ds2's hand from letterbox- ooops you forgot to supervise ds1 for a minute didnt you there?)

lol

8.50 go to b&q to buy sheets of ply and steel to secure windows and doors coz you know hv is watching you and they have secret camouflaged cctv cameras trained through the window

oh hello mr, that's a nice white coat you have there....

lol next you will be wrapping the room in foil to bounce off radiowaves.....

[not giving Peachy ideas emoticon]

dh is on roof as we speak scorpio, although as we're in a terrace the neighboyurs did get arsey but i now realise thats because they are employed by hv and so am taking the pc and a flask into the shed instead

we missed it scorpio!

Dreamfeed is basically when you feed them at night when they are asleep, say they go down at 8pm, you go to bed at like 11:30, and try feeding them, but Alex wouldn't feed asleep, he would just clamp his mouth shut or have it wide open, and when I managed to get him to feed it made no difference to his wakings.

thanks

LOL. DD1 is very dark dependent for sleeping (all of my own making) and it becomes quite obsessional trying to black out her room! (trying hard not to repeat my mistakes with this one!) Anyway for 6 months her windows in the rental place we lived in were covered in tinfoil. I'm sure the nieghbours must have thought I was schizophrenic!