October '04 babies - anyone fancy a kip?!!

[beansprout]

I certainly do. Bean is becoming more and more unsettled in the night as the weeks go by and it is taking its toll. Florence, you have my utmost admiration for still being alive, let alone managing a trip to NZ!! Hope its going well.

Bean is 3 months tomorrow, and people are already asking me if I am going to start weaning him soon? I would like to keep bf until he is 6 months, but how do I know if he needs to start sooner? Or will I know that is a stupid question when I have a permanently hungry baby on my hands?!!
What is everyone else planning to do?

Btw, am reading a marvellous, marvellous book called "What Mothers Do (especially when it looks like nothing)" by Naomi Stadlen. It talks about what a shock it all is, what we provide for a our babies and crucially, what I find missing from so many other books, how we actually feel - exhausted, sometimes angry towards db, unsure of ourselves etc etc. It does not tell me what I "should" be doing - hurrah!!! Cannot recommend it highly enough. Is doing me the world of good and we like that.

oh jbad - im all ears for you and keep your chin up too x and i know that some people pissed me off on a bad day that is sounded sssooo annoooyyyiiiinnnngggggggg !

my moan of the century and i want to kill them people is when i go asda and looking for a "mums and baby" parking space, i see people either getting out or in their cars and they've got no kids now thats pissed me right off !!

Don't know what the thumb prob is yet, we saw the geneticist for DS1 hearing loss which probably is genetic but they don't think they'll identify exactly what it is.
Huge sympathy over the going out in the buggy thing, ds2 also screams unless asleep and there is one old bag on the check out at Sainsburies who always passes comment.

Hi there, started reading the threads....... just realised theres over 250 of them.... will keep at it though.
Oh and YES im sooooo bloody tired!!!
dd is now 4.2mths she was born on halloween night
Argh scary... no really she is beautiful

goto go shes crying.......

hello and welcome laney -

Welcome Janey.

jbadgirl and geogteach - hope you get some answers soon.

Things here going o.k. at the moment. Ds finally had his first vaccination yesterday and didn´t even cry although I was on the verge of tears at the thought of the needle going in.

Someone´s looking after dd for a couple of hours this morning so I can catch up on washing, cleaning etc. and what am I doing - sitting here with ds on my lap surfing mumsnet . At least I´m picking dd up, so friend won´t see that the house still looks like a tip.

huppa - yes finally the jabs is coming, i remember the first one and i was sssoooo nervous for baba but she was ok and the 2nd and 3rd, she let out a little cry for about 5 seconds and then was ok and all smiley (hmm strange!). well my house is VERY upside down at mum came home from France with all her furniture and she got no where to live so the only room is free of clutter is the family room wheres the baba is.

ive just made my first cream banana puree for baba as SIL gave me a hand blender and i made baba her brekkie this morning as we have ran out of the heinz brekkie packet yesterday, baba loves it as had tiny lumps of banana in the puree.

im knackered now and wants to go to BED!!, as my house is still upside down till Saturday as mum arranged storage and 2 nights ago, DP was twitching in his sleep and last night baba woke me up at 4am for a feed... now feeling zzzzzzz

Sleep has been THE major issue here. Peaked (troughed) at being woken up 6 times on Tuesday. Spent yesterday reading up on sleep methods and felt like crap-no-idea-what-I-am-doing-here-how-did-I-let-it-get-to-this mum. My mistake, I think, has to been to feed him when he wakes up in the night. Now I suspect he is waking out of habit, and we have to address that.

Big plan for regime change next week using PU/PD when dp is off work, so we can do it together. Will muddle through until then. Boy, I feel rubbish though. Am really giving myself a hard time. FFS!!

Jbadgirl and Geogteach - hope your appointments go well.
Laneydaye - welcome!!
Rickman - how's the feeding going? Not long now.....!

6 times!! . im suffering on just once!

It's all relative! I had twice last night and am counting my lucky stars!!!

I´m usally up twice sometimes three times with ds in the night. Like you Beansprout I think some of it is habit e.g. 3am every night without fail. I´m guilty of feeding him everytime aswell. The problem is I think he probably still does need one feed as I´m breastfeeding and he is pretty big. The only problem is I can´t decide which is the feed he really needs, so end up feeding him every time. At least he goes straight back to sleep afterwards. I´m just hoping things improve when I wean him at 6 months, if not then it´s controlled crying for us I´m afraid.
We´re off to Centreparks for the weekend. Never been before, so will either love it or hate it I think.

Thanks Huppa. I feel exactly the same. I suspect he still needs one feed... but which one?! I read about the "core night" yesterday. If you have had nights when they have slept through (!)/slept for longer, this can be taken as hours they can go without a feed. We had a phase where ds only woke up at 4am and sure enough, I didn't feed him at 2am and he went back to sleep! Still leaves another feed though. Good point about coming up to weaning though. I hadn't thought of that (which again makes me think "bad mummy!"). Does weaning help with sleeping? Anyone?

I don´t know- but I sure hope so .

Hi all - am back from sunny cornwall - had a great time and was pampered thoroughly! DD was spoilt rotten, but then I guess thats what grandparents are for! .
Sorry to hear of all your sleep problems - you are all stars for still being able to cope let alone string coherent sentances together on mn!!
Beansprout - some people say that weaning helps sleep, but out of my ante-natal group it helped with one, made no difference with another and made it worse with one! She is now getting up on average 4 times a night when it was 2 - my thoughts are with you...
DD has not really started to be interested in our food, and is not finishing all of her bottles, so I am going to wait a bit longer before starting.
DH has come back from Oz and can't beleive how much she has grown and changed - funny how you notice it when pointed out to you, but as we are with them most of the time, you don't notice the changes as much isn't it! Now he has pointed some things out, I can't beleive that she has achieved so much in two weeks [proud mummy emoticon]

Huppa and bean - snap. I had a 5 times up night before last and I too feed every time for a quiet life. Todat i've been up since 5.45am so I am definately now off to bed before he starts getting up tonight!

since ive started weaning, the only thing i can see the difference is baba is taking one or two less bottles in the day.. thats it!! (as she used to have 6oz average of 9 bottles a day before started weaning)

Better night as I didn't feed Bean at 2 and 3am. Did feed at 4.30 though and then he slept 'til 7ish. That's it for him now, have had 2 nights with one feed and he's waiting until about 9 for his next feed so no more all night feeding for young Bean!! I'm really hoping he will stop bothering to wake up at 2 and 3 in the absence of some grub.

Hope everyone else had a good night?

no, 2nd night in a row and baba woke me up at 4.30am for a 7oz feed!! (she had an 7 oz before she went to bed but i didnt give her any her foods as i need to buy some more today so poss thats why she woke up in the middle of the night)

she went to bed at midnight

Hi guys, well ds has been waking about 2/3 times a night for the last few days but he is poorly with a chest infection and the nasty cold bug thats doing its rounds!

He was going 8/10 hours a night before that and it could have something to do with the solids he is having, loads of veg! Since hes been ill he hant "eaten" much so that could be why he is waking in the night hungry??? Who knows!!!

Maybe this maybe that - i go through stages of saying this! lol

Have an appointment with the pead on monday so we may be very lucky and get some results or maybe not!

Tried to look around the church for our wedding next year but it was closed as the admins mother had died aged 102. Going back next friday to have ab=nother look.

Dp had booked the day off so we could go to the church but as its good friday next week he wont be working anyway! Oh and its my birthday on easter saturday too 24!!!

IS MY BABY NORMAL?

He wakes at 7am then has a nap from 10am till 10.30 am (?) then stays awake until about 7pm, sleeps till 8.30, wakes up for a bottle and then falls asleep at 9pm - then sleeps through.?????? he may wake up once in the night for a bit of a bottle. Ive started him on baby food in the morning - and i make him a vegetable dinner for around 12pm - If i feed him again later on at night will he sleep from 7pm through?
How do i know he is getting enough nutrients if i make hs food?

PS he is 5 months old but he is very forward - he is trying to crawl from sitting up - cushions all around him to stop him headbutting the floor!!!!. He is teething quite badly and saying ba ba ba. He smiles sll the time and is very happy but i just worry that i wont be able to provide all the nutrients as he becomes more intersted in food.

loulou, sounds like you ds is running about the same pattern as my dd.
up at 5:30 here though, bit of porridge with her 2nd bottle of the day and a bit of something else at 4pm ish. (I do feed her milk in between!) She sleeps mid morning, a little in the afternoon and between 7 and 9 at night. Has her last bottle at 9:30 and sleeps through... sometimes until 7 if we're lucky, but mostly is up and at em at 5:30.
I think we're lucky!

Beansprout, hope lil bean is getting the message now and will sleep "like a baby" for you from now on. My 1yo nephew was habit-waking twice a night up until about a month ago until my broter only offered him water. He soon came to realise it wasn't worth waking the whole house up for just a sip of water, so now sleeps through.
I've got my fingers and toes (ouch!) crossed for you.
Also, my MN email is my work one, so haven't been able to CAT you, but I hope dsd situation is better than it was a few months ago. x