Oct 2007; This Little Piggy Rolled & Crawled to Market, This Little Piggy Walked Home

[FloriaTosca]

I hope I manage to do this right...I'll kick everything off with a roll call if it does.

st a quickie, inzi-snap! we're going tonight

just on way out so will catch up properly later

happy birthday Choc !!!!

Inzi - that is an evil thing to do to us knowing we are trying to lose weight, but i have signed up for the voucher.... thank you!!!!

mmmm pizza! That is my favorite food ever. For those in London then my fave place to go was called Pappardella in Fulham. It's near earls court and they do the best pizza ever - fresh proper Italian style. Yummmmmm.

Dareh is eating - thank god!

Choc - Happy Birthday!!! Hope you have a wonderful day.
Thanks for the advice re the teaching, yeah, it said on the site it was competitive, I have a feeling dh will be able to get on to it though, even if tit takes a few years/tries. He's a very likable person .
Oh and no! we're not TTC yet, we just get carried away some times , we really will have to start behaving!

Stefka- Dylan sometimes gets like that, misses his nap then won't eat etc etc. We just give up usually, try to get him to sleep asap and then offer the next meal as usual when he wakes, one missed meal won't matter . Glad you managed to get to the gym.

Inzi& J20 - enjoy the pizza , no pizza hut here , if there was i'd be printing out those vouchers asap!

Off to give Dylan his bottle, back later

Stefka - glad the eating strike is over

Stefka, can you tell that you and I have the insomniac babies and Dal has a sleepy one??! Hence her energy for all this!

Energy for what Choc?
I hope you're not refering to my bedroom olympics

happy birthday dal!

quickly, as have to get m up from her nap (if I ever want her to go to bed tonight that is!) ... on-the-job training programme for teaching is called the Graduate Training Programme ... it is quite difficult to get on if you're not already connected with a school: we have gtp entrants at the school where I teach, but all of them who have gone through the programme have been working at the school already - most often as LSAs / SEN support workers, or EMAS support workers.

hth

going to wake M up now ... then going to start attempting to pack for our hols!

See you all in a week!

Dal, Stefka said she was too tired for much action, and I understand!, whereas you seem to be up for mucho action... - you can tell you don't have the sleepless nights we do!

Hi all!

My traniners amizuno and dg's are asics. I am wearing a size bigger than I would normally wear and they are roomy but not overly so> The chappie in the shop said they need to ahve room for your foot to move. I'm very happy and as I said I've had no blisters at all adn I run 20-25k a week (omg do I really do that?????? >

Choc -Rebecca slept!!!!!!!!!! I am sooo pleased for you. She can do it she just prefers her mummy's company!

Dal -re GTP crochet has given the best answer!

Just bought heros first series and a trialatholon (sp?) book for dh as it's his birthday tomorrow. Am going to make get Ollie to do a card for him now -wish me luck!

We have no sleepless nights and I'm really not up for mucho action -is this just me??????
I just don't fancy it anymore and I'd really rather just go to sleep.

I AM GETTING SO BORING IN MY OLD AGE!!!!

oh and PIL have sent dh a card and used his old name not our married name and I am fucked off with them as they use the correct name for me. It is his LEGAL name whether they like it or not.
Fuckers

(we combined names when we got married and both changed our names)

Sorry, am really cross with them
....and breathe

Choc - It's true, I get a good amount of sleep but oddly enough I was like muppet until very recently, wasn't really bothered and would rather go to sleep. Suddenly I can't get enough, don't know why?

I have considered if i'd rather swap and have a baby that actually eats but doens't sleep but I think you are worse off than me, I don't cope well with no sleep (who does?)so it's just as well.

So glad she showed you she can sleep through though, bet you felt a little bit refreshed after that!

Crochet - have a lovely holiday. I take it you meant to say happy birthday to choc but were in a rush? . Thanks for the advice on the gtp

Muppet - Just ignore your stupid, annoying ils, they obviously have a hige chip on their shoulder. for you! Hope Ollie makes a nice card

Hello to eveyone else, may be back later x

Muppet you should send it back with not known at this address on it. That is so bloody rude! Or perhaps you should send them something like this is the correct spelling of our name as you seem to be having trouble with it.

I know I should ignore them it just really winds me up.

Dal how did you get your vavavoom back???

Lovely ladies I too would have been lost without you all. I know that I only know a lot of you virtually and even the ones I have met in real life it's only been once or twice but you still all hold a big place in my heart. Some might say it's sad to meet mates online but bollocks to that! It's also where I met dh so I have no such feelings! x

Stefka great to hear Dareh's sleep is getting there.

Floria I will be with you on the stroll for life ! I will def commit to doing it too

Dal the place I am doing pilates at isn't cheap but I found a lot pf places including a middle school in Newcastle that does evening classes for much cheaper so worth looking about if you fancy it!

Muppet pmsl at your Mr Chubba Chubba!!! Can just picture you!!!!! We call Adam 'Da' (Sam's name for him before he could say Adam) which seems to have morphed into 'The Da' and I also call him 'sausage' and for some reason dh calls him 'chop'. Not entirely sure where the hell that one came from!!!!

Choc HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! Great news about R and her sleep!!!! And sil too - can't beleive she is almost due - seems like ages ago we were discussing her 12 week scan! Must see you soon - fancy coming here next Wed to see J2O? You could both have lunch here if you like - Richie too - although J2O I would totally understand if you would rather spend time with him if he is not flying till the evening...

Inzi at the lie in! SHould get one this weekend though...

Crochet hello!

About sex... With Stefka and Muppet on the not much sex thing too! Dh and I tend to prioritise it far too low... Then have time away and jump each other! Not sure why we are so useless as dh is fantastic in the sack! (sorry if tmi especially to choc who will now have images she doesn't really want as she knows who he is ) But just a bit lazy really...

Anyway we're off down to York with the boys tomorrow to take them to the railway museum. Should be fun and Sam is super excited! Means he won't get his sleep but will be good to see how he does. I had been thinking that I wouldn't come to the meetup on 1st Sept as it would be too much on my own with them both especially if he couldn't sleep (not sure double buggy would get on the train) but I will reserve judgement until after tomorrow... I would really love to see you all so hope it all goes well!

Anyway off to bed now... Chat tomorrow / Sunday xxx

And dal yes I also want to know how you got your vavavoom back?

Muppet I think for me it's a bit of a question of the more you get the more you want. I was randy as hell (sorry if tmi) when we went away to Cambridge and shagged like rabbits but once it goes more than a few days I just kind of lose the urge. We tend to do it a few times in a few days and then not for 2-3 weeks. Luckily dh is similar to me and neither of us is getting particularly frustrated but I do sometimes worry that we prioritise it so low....

Oh and I had another idea... Does anyone fancy doing a brantub first birthday pressie thing for the lo's? I was thinking that anyone who is up for it could mail me their address and lo's birthday([email protected]) and I will pick out of a hat who gets for who. We could spend £5 (or less / more - whatever you all think) on a pressie and send it to the person you have drawn for.

What do you think? How about anyone who is interested mails me by 10th Sept and I'll sort it asap - I think that should give everyone time to get something!

Re vavavoom - I'm not intirely sure how I got it back and also not sure how long it'll stay? I think it's a combination of things. I've been trying to make a little more time for dh (in between mumsnet) and we had a little discussion about what we did like in the sack and what we didn't like just to reconnect with each other. I found out things I didn't know and so did he and then we felt lke trying things out. I wasn't bad at all before but I think having that chat made it a little better

One thing I will say is that my sex drive fluctuates wildly and some times I can go ages without wanting any then suddenly want loads. Sometimes we can be getting down to it then I just go off the idea all together where as I was up for it a minute ago?! I think it is partly down to something that happened when I was younger, and sometimes I get sort of flashbacks to the feeling I had at the time it happened then I get put off iykwim. I have pinpointed that one thing that gives me these 'flashback' feelings is if I am touched too lightly so one of the things I told dh I didn't like was that and asked him to touch me firmly instead which seems to have helped a lot

Sorry to go on, as I have said before, there are a few issues I have which i'd like to get counselling for, this thing that happened is one of them. So you're not all wondering what the hell i'm babbling on about i'll tell you briefly what happened.

When I was about 10/11 a 15/16 yr old boy was sleeping next to me (he was staying at our house) and he put his hands under the covers and started touching me (lightly) and felt my almost non existent breasts and also felt me 'down there', he then made me touch his penis which from what I can remember was erect. I eventually told him to stop and that I didn't want to do it any more and that was that. There was no penetration of any kind but the whole experience made me feel 'dirty' and on some level has bothered me ever since. I don't blame myself or that person, I believe he was just a young curious teenager who didn't realise what he was doing was very wrong.

Anyway, I don't know how the hell I got round to telling you all that, sorry.

Hope you've all had a nice day, chat soon x

Hey Dalry,

so sorry to hear that you suffered such a horrible experience at such a young age. I think you are brave to share - these things are not easy to talk about. I can recommend one message board if that is of interest to you. It's Pandora's Aquarium - pandys.org/. It is well established and properly moderated. Flashbacks can be tricky to deal with but is sounds like you are really self aware about the whole thing and are working through it well. I hope you are able to get some support for yourself. The message board might give you a nice safe place to get started.

I have gone off sex a bit myself - well not the idea just the practicality of it. I am just tired all the time and DH works a lot - often over night. We are very affectionate though as a couple so there is still a lot of intimacy - just not a lot of sex at the moment!!

Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday ChocolateHobNob!
Happy Birthday to you!!!!!
How wonderful that R slept for a whole night ...I hope she repeats the feat as a birthday pressie for you....Have a fabulous day!!! (what is left of it)

Muppet; How ignorant of your pils...but how wonderful that you both combined and changed names!

Crochet; Have a wonderful time! I hope the weather changes for the better to allow you to enjoy it to the full.

Our sleep pattern is still far from idea but better than last Sunday...last night he tried to start the hourly wakings at 11.30pm (they are normaly from 1am)! I just decided it had to stop, so had a battle royal with him from 12.30-1.30, not feeding him as he wanted, but humming the Mozart lullaby the whole time and every time he stood up I picked him up and laid him flat on the mattress again saying "mummy loves you, night night"...miracle of miracles once he went off he stayed asleep until 4.40!, he then Bf'd and went to sleep again until 7am!...so despite an unusally bad start we actually had a better night than any for the last 4 months...still not as bad as Chocs normal nights...but then again we have never had a whole uninterrupted night

Have a wonderful bank holiday weekend all!

Stefka - thanks for the link, i'll have a look
I think you've hit the nail on the head when you said you aren't having much sex but lots of intimacy. I think this is very important, Dh and I always have a cuddle before going to sleep without fail and make sure we say we love each other every day as well as other little things. I think these little things are a lot more important than how often we have sex
Hi Floria - well done on winning the sleep battle, hope he takes the hint and starts sleeping more!

wow nearly a week again between posts! I must be getting a life...

Well Anya joined the ranks of babies falling off furniture. She peered over the edge of her changing table a bit too far on Wednesday while my back was turned and did what I think was a double twist with pike. She smacked her head on an open draw on the way down (there's a chest of drawers underneath) and landed in a heap on the floor - it's about a 4 foot drop. She was fine after a cuddle - I was a hysterical mess. We took her to hospital anyway - there's a walk-in clinic at one near us and they saw us straight away - and they said there was no damage done. She's still got a lovely bruise on her forehead though.

You would think I'd keep a more careful eye on her after that but then yesterday morning she was crawling round the floor and when I picked her up she heaved a couple of times and coughed up a dead fly.

Nice to see from your comments that I'm not old and boring - just a normal mum!

Stefka - she stirs a bit when I dreamfeed her but sometimes she doesn't even bother opening her eyes. I don't even talk to her, other than the odd shhh, just try and keep it as quiet/calm as possible. Do you use a dummy? That usually gets Anya back to sleep if she wakes but doesn't need feeding. Glad things are getting better for you.

FT - fingers crossed that Alex continues sleeping better.

Muppet - lol at Ollie's camping experience. I suppose it's bad enough cleaning up your own child's mess, but having to clean up their friends is a whole different ballgame! But well done Henry for rolling over. Hope you're not too sore - sounds a bit rough at the moment.

J2O - sorry your weekend didn't go that well. Think that's disgraceful that a hotel can't provide a cot, especially when you've confirmed it.

Dal! - wow, let us know how it goes!

Inzi - I don't put socks/shoes on Anya either - will start watching out for blisters now!

Alice - glad foot is better. Hurray for Adam's tooth!

Choc - happy birthday for yesterday - glad R gave you a nice present by sleeping through!

First birthday - her birthday is on a Tuesday so on the Sunday before we're having friends & family over (invited about a dozen adults - none of them have kids!) for a birthday tea with cake etc. Then on the Tuesday I'm having the day off work and we might go to Chester Zoo or something, just the 3 of us. Before then though we HAVE to get the wooden floor down, which has been sat stacked up in a corner for over a year .

Dal sympathies with you on the horrible experience you suffered while so small and no wonder it has had implications on how you enjoy sex now. I agree with you that the boy probably didn't know what he was doing was upsetting - he was a child too afterall although a lot older than you - but at the same time I can see why it was!

Floria great news on Alex's sleep! FIngers crossed it lasts

WWAJC you must have been so worried when Anya launched herself off the change table. Glad to hear she's OK though...

Well we had a fab day at the railway museum in York yesterday with the boys! And they both loved travelling down there on the train. Unfortunately it has reinforced for me that it will be too much to come to York on my own with them both to meet you all. Adam just wants to climb into EVERYTHING at the mo and it took both dh and I to look after them both! I think on my own I would just find it too stressful so will have to leave it for now. Also Sam was beside himself with tiredness by the time we got back home as he didn't have his usual nap at lunchtime. Maybe when they're both a bit older I'll come but for now I think I'll have to content myself with hearing all about it on here