June 07 PN - it's nearly the first anniversary of the June 2007 post natal thread. And how the LOs have grown

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You have not failed! You are giving your DD what she needs. Bloody HV . It makes me think that many HV's babies are half starved and scream themselves to sleep from about 6 months! Sorry, that was an awful thing to say, but it just bugs me.
'You're baby is too big/small/has too much/too little milk' delete as appropriate.

Daisy, DD is exactly the same. She'll walk with holding on with one hand. On Saturday, she stood up on her own for so long, I thought that she was going to take a step but she just sat down and then cried .
Right, I really am going now, lol!

thanks izzy . I only gave her five 0zs this morning as well and that will be her till bedtime. But I can't help feel that if she doesn't get the calories in during the day she'll just wake up in the night again.

I'm off too...still need to shower and get my own breakfast as well as make packed lunch for DS......

Holly...if you are lurking..can you help?

Morning all,

Daisy, Izzy, how come your LOs are getting Jabs, am I missing out on something? God, we've got to think about the dreaded MMR soon. DH and I are in such a quandry. We have autoimmune thyroid disease in our family, and DH's niece had Crohn's. I worry that they may be a predisposing risk to developing regressive autism. It scares the life out of us, but we just can't afford the singles. If money was no object we would go for them, but it is still a trek to the home counties a few times too.

DD still has a bottle. TBH I hadn't though anything about it because I never give her a bottle. Maybe I should talk to DH about giving her a cup. When our HV came round she gave me a leaflet and a bit of a talk on dummies, which I ignored. DD only has it to sleep, and TBH I think I have missed my window of opportunity for getting rid and it's likely to be when we can reason with her.

Well done Jamlet btw! Who needs crawling?!

Oh, and the name, in case you didn't realise came from the bunting cupcakes threads, rants on people in glossy magazines who give up the rat race to run business selling cupcakes or bags or overpriced baby clothes, which are artfully photographed with bunting and cupcakes and shabby chic furniture!

Well done Jamlet

Daisy / Izzy....my DD is the same, lots of cruising but hasn't got the courage to walk..would rather crawl between the gaps...so your DD certainly isn't the last Daisy....

I wouldn't worry about the bottle Daisy.....at 12 months its hardly "extended"....

Bumper.....as far as I am aware, there is no evidence with the MMR associations...

I know that's the official line Norty, but there are a few people actually on MN who really believe that MMR triggered autism in their children. When you speak to them it's hard to accept that there is no link, especially when a lot of the arguments over the jab are mostly political, which seems to obscure the truth. I certainly don't think it is a risk for most people, and I do see the value in the jab, but I am inclined to believe that there is a subset of people who are susceptible to the MMR as a trigger, and it's disorders of the immune system and gut that are implicated, which we have a history off. It's the fear of scaremongering and putting everyone off completely that I think stops a lot of HCPs having a real discussion about it. I don't know what to do really. I expect if I went to my Dr she would probably just dismiss my fears.

Fair enough....I wasn't spouting the official line though....just my own research from reading the literature. I have friends who have gone the single jab route as well as friends who haven't bothered with anything....

No, I didn't mean that you were spouting the official line, but I know that is the official line. Oh, it's just all so fraught isn't it? I have a research background too and am not normally one to get worked up by this sort of thing, if it wasn't for our family history I wouldn't even worry about it. But all rationalism goes out the window when it comes to the the LO's doesn't it?

morning chloe gave us a scare last night she stopped breathing her alarm went off, i just flipped her over (she was on her tummy)

and all i kept thinking oh no not on your birthday(i know silly thing like that) but shes ok now but i not settled but we seeing a pead today

aw Trace, that's awful for you . Glad she's ok and hope she has a lovely birthday. It's been a tough year for you all, but you made it!!! So enjoy today and good luck with the paeds.

Oh Trace! How frightening. I hope she is OK, Happy Birthday Chloe. Good luck today.

bumper, I can understand your fears with the MMR, and agree about the subset who are susceptible. I suppose the worry is that there is no way of knowing just who is susceptible and who isn't. From my POV, the risks of serious illness or death from measles is greater than the risk from the jab so it's a no brainer. I'm also aware (rightly or wrongly) that autism is more prevalent in boys than girls as well so feeling less worried with DD than with DS iyswim. and although there are people out there who swear there is a link, I'm pretty sure the research shows that around this age is when the first signs exhibit themselves and it may be no more than coincidence. This is from my limited reading of the subject of course. What does reassure me is that I have a fair few friends who are GPs or married to GPs and they have all had the triple jab. If they were in any doubt would they trust their own children with it?

It's one of those emotive MN issues though isn't it.

The jab yesterday was her hib meningitis booster. they all get it now at a year old as the original ones they had when babies aren't effective in a percentage of cases.

bless, DD is trying to put DSs shades on. she has them on the back of her head

oh trace...cross posts

how bloody scary for you. I hope she is OK and that you are OK and your DH is OK. Let us know how you get on with the paed.

Happy Brithday Chloe

I hope you can relax and enjoy her big day xx

Caught up now. Hello!

Bumper, can you just have single measles jab? I don't think there's much of a need for mumps (especially for girls) and they have rubella jabs at school. DPs eyesight was damaged by measles, and my friends children have currently got it. Its pretty horrid.

That's what worries me Foxy, that if enough children aren't vaccinated against measles, the disease is still prevalent & people who can't be vaccinated (pregnant women, babies under 13 months etc) have no protection.

I've never had mumps and had rubella vaccination at school

Happy birthday Chole ....hope you get on OK today...

I had mumps. It was fine. I think it can affect fertility in men if they get it when they are older.

I had Rubella jab at secondary school.

I'd definately get the single Measles Bumper, given the family history.

As for jabs for chicken pox, I think that's nonsense.

Anyone watch the Fanny Craddock drama on BBC4 last night? The woman from Nighty Night played Fanny. 'Twas good.

hi foxy

DD is being a right wee grump today. Something to do with her being up two or three times in the night and for an hour in the wee small hours. I know how she feels.

Have a meeting at school on Friday with DSs teacher . His behaviour has been getting worse and she mentioned this morning that he is getting a bit unmanageable at school too. He told me that he wanted to kill himself as he is so sad . this was over not getting to watch jetix, so a tad melodramatic, but I was shocked that he would even mention something like that. I know I've been shouting a lot and have given him the odd smack or clip round the ear when I've been less than capapble of dealing with him , but generally things have been loads better around here.

I have just goven DD a wnacky box full of things that she might find interesting. It seems to be working and she is quietly playing with the bits and bobs and putting the lid on and off the box. This after I got her out of the front porch where she was playing with the ant poisoned bait box we put down last summer when we had our infestation .

I had mumps twice as a child, first time was fine, 2nd was horrid. I had german measles twice, I had chicken pox twice (can you see a theme here?) and again 1st time was ok, 2nd not so ok (especially with chicken pox). I had the measles vaccination, and then caught it, although that was just a mild dose of it. So you can see I had (and still have really) a pretty ropey immune system, and really hope that the jamlet has inherited DH's constitution of on ox and not my dodgy immunity.

Sorry to hear about trouble with DS, Daisy. Hope you get something sorted.

Oh daisy, you have to wonder where they get these ideas from?

I'm not sure you can get these measles jab alone. Have a feeling the clinics make you pay for all 3. The sex thing is reassuring though.

Trace, hope Chloe is ok, happy birthday to her, it's been a long year for you . Good luck with the paed.

Someone on here will know Bumper. How about a new thread on it?

Daisy, I'm sorry to hear that. I guess DS has gone from being an only child, and now has two siblings to contend with. FWIW my DS1, who's the same age, says that. Its not nice to hear.

Remember: They need the most love when they least deserve it.

Repeat, muttering under your breath, when you most want to explode

I feel very guilty for not sending that book do you still want it? I can get it in the post to you tomorrow. Promise.

Righto off to playgroup we go.

bumper...or should I say bunty , I'd read somewhere that some clinics will insist you pay for all three as they want the money. I'm horrified that they put profits over parent's concerns though.

Oh, well the wnacky box kept her entertained for 10 minutes She is now using the metal measuring cup to bash the TV screen! But, I have been practising my hard stare and being serious when I say No....and it worked. I stared at her after telling her off and she started crying, but has moved away from the TV!!!!

I'd forgotten all about it foxy! If you are passing the post office, then yes please

and you have reminded me that I haven't sent the crawly ball to jammy ...the same crawly ball that got left in the garden in the rain last week and now is just a brightly coloured ball with legs

looks like the jamlet won't need it now though