January 08 shiny new - year babies , night night sleep tight - yeah right !!

[lilyloo]

Thought as there were no objections and we were at 950 i would get us all a new thread

Hi all,

Just a quick one for now. Thanks for kind words about Sabela. She seems to be doing fine. No more fever, thank God. She has a very tricky habit of pushing her antibiotics out of her mouth, though. She's a clever little thing.

I do get a bit peed of fith consultants finding things 'wrong' that are not really 'wrong' at all. She does NOT have a flat head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JKS - I'd love to do baby signing and I'm sure Sabela would too. There are no groups in our area though. None in Wales as far as I can see. Do you know anything about the DVDs? Any good?

Lily - I think giving up on sleep is probably the best thing. That's what I decided to do. Although Sabela is not such a bad sleeper. Hope your nights imprve soon.

To all those gettign their houses in order: cheers! I just emptied my paper shredder and managed to get most of it on the floor and now it doesn't work. A resounding success!

oh susie i love taking our shredder to pieces, picking all the bits of paper out and then getting it to work again! keep going! (saddo alert!)

the dvds are fab, tom used to be obsessed with them and you can pick up plenty of the signs just from them, so def worth a go.
maybe i shd get mine back from current borrower and i can start a posting circle so you can all try them out?

wish i was getting my house in order, don't know where to start...have a to do list that stays very long and some of it just seems impossible - trip to antique door furniture shop with baby & toddler anyone?
just manage to keep on top of laundry (esp extra puky stuff!) and dishwasher and keeping (fresh) food in the house. weekends just go far too fast and i never seem to have any time to myself to get stuff done ah well, dh should be at home more over the summer & if LO could find his way to dropping a few feeds i could find some new freedom

lily - sad news for your friend too why is it that teenagers make it all look so easy??? or is that more media stereotyping anyway

susie - you would know if she had a flat head surely????
hope the other things sort themselves out.

madmouse - know you are frantically busy packing and moving but i wonder if you had seen on the June thread about a baby (Olivia, mum Josey) who has had a v poor prognosis & is proving docs wrong so far. thought she might like to hear your positive story so far...sorry if out of order...

think i have washed all pukey clothes so no smell now &....he's feeding lots today so hoping he's out the other side and is now starving!

right, he might be falling asleep, so i better try a nap too.

Just got back from picking up DS from playgroup and have another 5 mins as DD asleep again and DS playing with his cars.

Lilyloo - sorry to hear about your friend.What awful news.

Susie - you would know if she had a flat head!! Bloody docs! Glad DD better though.

JKS - I wish DD would drop a couple of daytime feeds she feeds every one and a half to two hours daily. But she does go 12 hrs at night so I guess she is making up for it but a pain if we go out for the day, have to take mountain of bottles etc.

We put DD in her highchair yesterday for the first time, she looked so sweet and tiny in it. I put her favourite rattle on the tray and instead of picking it up to put in her mouth she lowered her mouth to the toy till her nose was almost touching the tray. Then she squeaked as she realised she was stuck!!

Does anyone else have one of those inflatable rings ?
I used this for dd1 and it was fine but dd2 can push her legs into it and lies back and manages to tip herself out of it. She thenrolls over and ends up in the middle of the floor.
It's funny to watch but basically means it's a waste of time!

Well have just washed the dog and my house smells lovely now , NOT

Hello ladies,

Not much going on here. Tried DS2 on porridge today and that was much better altho he kept blowing raspberries and it was very messy. He didnt take much and didnt keep hardly any to swallow, but it is a start - i think my expectations are a little unrealistic as DS1 opened his mouth for the first spoonful of food and hasnt stopped since and has never really refused anything and weaning was a breeze, i have a feeling DS2 is going to test me a little more.

Also re: learning. DS1 created his own signs for things, not sure how he done it, he still does some now like if he wants to sit on his chair he sort of crouches like he is going to wee in the bushes very funny.

I also satrted with reading very early... and I was also laughed at and sort of didnt do it so much, now i actually switch off the TV and read my book and let DS play with his so that he can see me reading and then we have bedtime reading, but he likes to bring about 6 books to bed whilst i read one out loud he looks at the pictures of the other one.

DD2 also keeps blowing lots of raspberry's too - so funny....

Justkeepswimming - most days I just give the house a clean at the end of the day or when DD1 is in nursery - both DD's just seem to trash it 5 mins after I've cleaned anyway

Lily - So sad to hear about your friend.

Glad am not the only one having sleepless nights still.

My usual routine is

10pm - DD2 has dream feed at 10pm

12am-2/3am - unsettled: scratches, cries, goes to sleep and wakes up after five mins, eventually I get fed up and wrap her up tight in a blanket so she doesn't scratch herself and put her to sleep in the car seat

6am - wake up for a 1/2hr feed

8am - wake up for the day.

Must say am finding it so exhausting with DD2 waking up for 2-3 hrs at night. Keep saying through gritted teeth this phase will pass, but for past few days been in tears at 2am in the morning feeling so helpless, upset and a bit of anger that my LO is so small and is going through this. Keep trying to put things in persective saying there are many babies out there in a much worse situation, but it's so hard to try and do this sometimes.....

poor you people with sicky babies hope they all improve soon.

looks like i might be goign to work one day next week for a case to start next jan very weird to go back for a day.

dh just put charlie down for sleep so i have 5 mins hooray.
Have walked for hours today and my legs feel like they are going to fall off also dh and i went ballroom dancing last night such fun.

looking forward to meet next week

Afternoon ladies.
Sorry to here your lo still poorly jks
Oh how sad lucky. I just can't imagine what is going through your aunts mind. Give them a ring like everyone else has said just to offer a hand. They probably won't accept but will feel someone is there for them.
Lol filly re decorating. I only sound calm about it because we have been talking about doing it for ages and now we have a bit of spare money and dh on holiday we can do it.
I shall only be bringing George to the meet up ds3 has nursery till 11.30.
Im sure lo is trying to crawl. I put him on the floor and he actualy got up on his hands and knees for a few seconds Im sure hes not supposed to be doing that yet
Think Ive got rid of most of my bits on freecycle now. A lady was supposed to pick some videos up last night but didn't turn up so a man is collecting them today.
I said to dh if they don't all go by the weekend well take them to the charity shop.

Little bit of news. Now looks like MIL is NOT coming to stay as she has done her back in and won't be able to climb steps to get on plane.

Am relieved as her visits are always hell and she causes tension between me and DH. But at the same time DH is quite upset i think as he wanted to show off DD while she is small to his mother. He wants me to get camcorder out so we can send over videos of her.

Hope everybody else ok...

Hi all.
Simpson - breathing a sigh of relief with you about your MILs cancelled visit Hope you can get away with sending a video/photos for as long as poss.
Gingeme - still in awe re: your decorating
Lucky - so sorry about your aunt and uncle's baby. Agree that you should give them a ring, even if only to let them know you're thinking of them.
Nicky - ballroom dancing sounds fun I got DH to go to a salsa class with me, but didn't last more than a few sessions, as we had to dance with everyone else in the class, and actually weren't even 'allowed' to dance together for weeks. So he eventually put his foot down and said he wasn't going to dancing lessons (already a big concession) if he didn't even get to dance with his wife . Does this happen at your class, or do you and DH get to dance together?
Lilyloo - I'm so sorry to hear about your friend Hope that your visit to her cheers her up, even though you're taking the lo.
Amani - big hugs, and remember 'this will pass'. Poor little mite.
Mixedmama- ROFL about 'weeing in the bushes' crouch, would love to see that. Did anyone ever think it was his sign for going to the loo?
JKS - hope the puke fest is over Those DVDs sound fab, let me know if you're going to be lending them
Filly - fab catch up Envious about boobs getting somewhat back to normal.

Need advice. Want to wind down bf-ing now, but Tana has totally refused the bottle. She was fine with it last Tuesday, but DH gave her Cow&gate which has made her very sick in the past, and of course she ended up projectile vomiting later that afternoon, and has since completely refused to let me or DH near her with the bottle (even if it has expressed breastmilk!). Have tried new teats (the NUK ones), and even bought a doidy cup, but nothing doing. Not sure how well the cup worked, looked like she took some milk, but it might have all gone down her chin . Also have tried her on several different formulas, but she doesn't seem to like any. I was going to try the Hipp Organic next, but can't seem to find any small travel sized cartons - don't want to buy a big tin to go to waste if she hates it...anyone know if they do them in small cartons?

fragolina - have you tried aptamil? the cartons tend to be a bit richer than when its made up with water i think so she might be better on the tinned stuff than on the carton. Have you tried feeding her so she is not ravenous but still hungry and then giving her the bottle, or some people say wait until they really are hungry then they will eventually take the bottle - dont know if htat helps.

Yes we do dance with other people but we also dance quite a lot together which is fun.

fragolina - the hipp stuff does not come in cartons ( i asked at boots once). Agree that the cartons are richer than the tinned stuff. I asked the HV when DD was around 2 weeks why she preferred the cartons and it apparently does taste sweeter as its caramelised. I started DD on SMA which made her v sick and have now switched to aptamil which is better.

A friend of mine had the same problem as you with her DD and she finally took aptamil but only from her DH obviously associated mum with bf!!

A friend had the same issue Frag, on returning to work she had to get her DD to take a bottle but she had never had one before and refused it. She had to leave the house and let her DH get baby to take the bottle as she couldn't stand to see her cry as she got hungrier and hungrier , and eventually their DD got the message. I guess if you can get her to go back to accepting EBM you can then start mixing it with formula then gradually increasing it.

DS is still really sicky on the formula. It's annoying me cos I am weaning him and can't work out the best time to feed him his solids as too near a milk feed and he brings up half the food etc. Have tried SMA Cow and Gate, and Apramil. Am loath to try the easy digest stuff it seems expensive!

Amani you're doing so great being there for your poor DD. Does she have the special bandages that you can keep damp, a little boy with eczema at baby group has these.

DS slept through again. He did wake during a heavy rainstorm that woke us all up, I could hear him singing in his cot and then he just went back to sleep. Amazing!

Hi all - just popping on to flick through - glad I'm not the only one who frequently smells of curdles milk!! Fragolina - maybe leave the bottles for a few days if you're not on too tight a timescale to stop BF? By then she may have forgotten the bottle/sick reaction.

Re the inflatable rings - I was lent one by a friend, never had one before - to be honest they don't seem much use until your baby can sit reasonably well, and then they won't want to be in it long anyway! Amelie sat in hers this mornign whilst I blitzed the office and moved everything around, it was good exercise for her as when she fell backwards she manged to haul herself up again pulling on the lift-the-flap bits at the side. I'd thrown a few smaller toys in with her to keep her looking at her feet as if she looks up she falls over!

Still night feeding here - yawn - looked at the Cow & Gate "bedtime" milk as she's nearly 6 mths but was put off by the can - says you need to shake it twice as long as it's so thick to mix, and not to worry if some clings to the side of the bottle due to thickness, and only to feed in faster flow teats - sounds like Polyfilla! So will give it a miss unless I get desperate (still totally BF anyway apart from her solids but would like to wear my summer dresses so am now waivering)

Amani big hugs to you, it must be so hard to know that she is suffering with it poor lo. Have you not had any good advice on other threads ? I got quite a few people on my eczema thread when i started one. Sorry can't help as dd's is quite mild and seems to be helped with oilatum.
However we are still up at least twice after the dream feed so you definately aren't on your own.

Frag sorry can't help still bf here, hope you get it sorted.

Simpson i think the video idea is lovely as am sure dh will be dissapointed not to see his mum.

Housemum i tend to just lean dd back on the sides of the ring but as previous post it isn't working! Although dd2 curled up in it and fell asleep yesterday

Other than lack of sleep all is ok here. Just wondering what you all do r/e shopping. Do you still do weekly shop when you are at home as i tend to find i am popping to shops every day/ other day and not sure if this is costing me more in the long run. We really need to make some cut backs esp with the looming thought of fuel bills going up by another 40% by xmas. I still don't know if i am going back to work or not.
Has anyone else decided not to return ?

Another bad night - up for 3 hrs again...

Ang - yes we've got DD2 in the bandages called 'wet wraps' it hydrates the skin, but at the moment is not soothing the itchiness

Lily - have started a thread and got some useful info but nothing working on DD . GP most unhelpful - just keeps saying he will grow out of it like DD1

Another bad night - up for 3 hrs again...

Ang - yes we've got DD2 in the bandages called 'wet wraps' it hydrates the skin, but at the moment is not soothing the itchiness

Lily - have started a thread and got some useful info but nothing working on DD . GP most unhelpful - just keeps saying he will grow out of it like DD1

Amani there is a helpline on this site maybe they can offer you some support if your gp not very helpful ?

Morning ladies.
Sorry to hear about the excema babys. Must be so frustrating. George has a few quite large patches on his arms and I am using Oilatum in his bath and I have some hidrocortisone cream which seems to be keeping it form flaring up too much.
Had a bit of a break through sleeping wise. George slept from 7.30 to 5am. Drank an 8oz botlle then slept till 8.30 when he woke with great bid smiles and a very smelly nappy
Im off to the docs tomm. I have a horrible feeling I might be diabetic I have all the symptoms and have ben having dozzy spells quite frequently. Will keep you posted.
Hope you all have a good day.

Hi all

Amani - sorry to hear about DD. Can you go to another GP?

Lilyloo - Neither me or DH drive, so we do a daily shop. I think we actually spend less that way. I am not going to return to work although they don't know that yet!! Am worried about money though TBH.

Gingeme - hope you get sorted out an docs. Do you think you could be aneamic instead? DD also now sleeps like your George. She has does this for 6 nights now. A couple of nights she has even gone till 8am!!

Housemum - let me know if you use cow & gate would be interested in results. I did try DD on hungry baby milk for 6pm feed when she was 14 weeks. Did not make much difference though apart from sore tum!!

DS got his picture taken at playgroup today and really wanted pic with DD in as well but she was too tiny for the chair and kept flopping forward. But apparetly pic of DS on his own is nice. Will see it on monday

Hi,

Amani that all sound awful I really hope you find a solution soon and get some sleep.

Hello to everyone just saying hello really.

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Need suggestions ladies to the above.

i am makign an attempt to get on better with DH family if you are wondering why on earth i am organising this.

have just left friends house early and phoned dh to come home asap as i felt like i was going to start being sick.
he is on the way and i have stared at the loo bowl for 5 mins, nothing happening, now feel a bit silly

wondering if i have henry's bug?
and if dh really needs to come back?
ah well i can't stop him now and extra help with bedtime always welcome but i will feel sheepish if i haven't been sick before he gets home!

henry stlll not himself either, v grumpy, not settling not sleeping during the day, etc.
but did sleep 7-6 last night !
knackered from puking?