Dec 2007: Gummy grins give way to teething tyrants

[claraquitetirednow]

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Ahh - done it again - just about get back into the swing of MN and catch up with your news then I'm off for a few days and there's thousands of posts to catch up on!!

Just flicking through them really does highlight just how different all our LO's are - it's so easy to think Oh no, mine isn't doing X or Y but then she is doing Z - hang on, so's little billy etc etc - it's worth while just being reminded that they are so individual of course they'll develop at different rates!

Finally managed to upload some piccies so you can all now see what my little nutters are like - and getting crazier by the day! Just had a long weekend away camping up near Aviemore which was very jolly - except for the blood sucking feckin' midges - bless!!!! Trying not to scratch too much as it looks very strange in an open plan office

Can't believe DD2 was 7 months old yesterday - how quickly is the time going - they'll be one before we know it!! And bog bothers and sisters too by the way somne of you are talking!! Think we'll be sticking at 2 - at least for the foreseeable anyway - can't afford the childcare for another one!!

Anyway - hope you are all having a jolly day - and must say the award of the day for posts must go to Ambi - the one a few days ago covered just about everyone and everything!! My brain doesn't work well enough to do that!

It's also just started pi**ing it down up here (in wonderful Paisley today!) - not looking forward to the drive home - why do we not have a summer worth talking about .....

skid- just because i won't be expressing at all: i find that the evening express for DH to do the 10.30pm feed really keeps my supply up. After this weekend i have much less milk as we were away and i didn't express: having been full to bursting on friday night millie wasn't that hungry and so supply went down. IYKWIM

wierd - because presumably Millie is getting the same amount of milk whether expressed or directly so do you think there is something about expressing per se that keeps up supply? Would be interested in knowing more about that - anyway i wouldn;t worry about your supply going down as I've read that after 6 months you can go right down to a feed a day and then back up to five feeds a day and your milk supply adjusts no problem - it is only in the early days that it can have disasterous effects afaik

hey beanster - love the pics! pissing it down in the north east too - good for the garden I keep telling myself

BT - did you go to a BF group in Stockton today and was there a girl giving out questionnaires about colic? Ha ha I am a stalker - no, she is doing a Masters in my department and I have been helping her find good places to find mothers of tiny babies - she told me all the Stockton mums were the most helpful so-far so i thought you would probably be one of them!

Oh Suey where are you going on holiday to? 3 weeks away sounds bliss. I think your supply will come back up if you start expressing again. I stopped expressing at 10pm for about a month and just started again now, it was slow to get back but is back again now.

Beanster Lovely pictures, what a handsome family you have. Your girls are just fab

I've got a raging sore throat, what with that and the April-type showers we seem to be having today it's making me want to curl up with hot soup and not be jumping round the living room with DD who is well and truely over her pox now (which is great but I forgot how much energy she requires!)

Hope everyone else is well, hi to wheresmyhat

thanks loucee! sorry about your throat- i am hoping i don't get millie's cold- though i did cycle bakc from work yesterday in a torrential storm. We are off to america again- NYC, the hamptons, martha's vineyard and boston- staying with mates throughout. Sooo looking forward to it- have ben checking out the beach sun shades on mothercare today. I reckon DD will be swallowing a lot of sand whatever i do, though!

Skid - yes! she came to my bumps and babes group!
I'm afraid we were a bit critical of the Berck's questionaire, not enough options - if you didn't pick the "everything is hunkydory" option the others were very negative!

She was lovely btw - i was telling her about my Spanish dad!

I meant becks!

Or maybe I meant berks

My supply is pretty good when I am in work she gets 2 maybe 3 BF in 24 hrs depending if she has a night feed - then when I am home she might have 5 or 6 depending on whether I can be arsed to make a bottle or not - it seems to just go up and down as needed am not sure how to end BF TBH so am just going with the flow at moment
VERY suey

For those of you who post on Aitch's BLW forum, PARTY TONIGHT! Get your arses over here!

Skid - link to main bfing picnic thread. Durham one hasn't be cancelled just been given a bit of a run around tying to find out who I need to ask to get permission to hold it on Palace Green - found out it was definitely University Property, was hoping that it was owned by the Diocese as I have a few contacts there but no!

Hello everyone! And thankyou for all the lovely welcomes

Wow does this thread move fast!

To those of you are still BFing well done! I gave up about 4 weeks after DD2 was born and though I am not proud of the fact, it was the right decision for me. DD1 used to get very upset when I fed her and all the screaming was making DD2 cry and - well feeding tmes were dreaded by all. So, bottle for her, and all calmed down (except for me who was very dissapointed)

Anyway, DD2 slept til 6 this morning again and is currently in her bouncy chair watching TV. Thank god for bouncy chairs eh!

I have been arranging new carpets to be fitted upstairs because those wodden floors are no good for my knees, and not for DD2 when she starts to crawl. Plus she is such a roller she always attempts to roll right off her changing table so that needs to be done on the floor now.

I need to take a trip to get both DDs some clothes from babygap. I know they are more money, but they wash so well no need to iron, and they last til grown out of. And ok ok, I do love buyng childrens/baby clothes, infact I think I may have a problem with it

Anyway, Izzy making noises so will be off.

Loucee, yes thought I'd seen you somewhere before!

gosh, that must have been hard, jewels! Right decision for you, though, it sounded most distressing for all concerned.

I am afraid i am also a clothes buying addict- fortunately i have not had to buy that much, but i am a huge lover of monsoon's girl's clothes.

Snap with the feeling poorly Loucee - oh well we can compare notes this afternoon when we finally manage to meet for coffee again! Caz10 - hope you're feeling better too - one day soon we shall all have to meet up

Jewelsandgems - been thinking exactly the same re our wooden floors - but have had feedback from other mums here that it has no effect on crawling - have seen somewhere though little leg warmers with sticky grips to help them not skid! Will have to find them again and post the link.

Thought for the day from sunny Glasgow is that Excel is pish (spreadsheet city for me today ) and also, is my bum ever going to be small enough to fit on a loo seat and not be squished by the sanitary bin thing??? Office loo's are definitely designed by men

LOL beanster! I have much the same problem. Boobs are now going down - am in a 32G bra today - but sadly the arse is going nowhere.

Aaaargh have had 2 bloody awful nights, worse than have had for a long time. Have given up trying to find reasons for it now. Tried PUPD last night but the problem is that once he starts crying he doesn't stop until he conks out in my arms so the pick him up til he's calm then put him straight back down again thing doesn't really work for us. Despite the lack of sleep I STILL don't feel ready to try CC (mainly because I know DS can and will cry for hours solidly and I'll give in long before he does) so I guess I just have to put up with it. Maybe my friend is a witch and has cursed me for not taking her advice!

Skid I feel sorry for her as well now, I think because her dd is a good sleeper she must be clinging onto that as proof that it's all going ok iyswim? Maybe I'll lend her ds for a bit and she can try her theories on him-if it works at least I won't have had the stress of listening to him cry for hours.

Clara I agree with you that with your second you can see the bigger picture a bit more eg with dd I obsessed about her self settling but with ds i just figure he'll do it one day (although tbh I did think he'd have cracked it by now!). Also with dd I was convinced breastfeeding was the cause of her not sleeping but I know that FF made no difference to her whatsoever which is why I've not bothered FF ds.

My cousin is pregnant, dd1 the same age as dd. She has announced the pregnancy but is being all mysterious so my guess is twins. I am so jealous though realistically I know I could never have coped with 2 like ds and would probably be institutionalised by now if I did have twins! God I think I am going to be one of those women who never has enough babies-you'll see me on "Family of 13" in 10 years time!

claireybee - ohh twins although I am like you not sure I would cope - I already have enough grey hair and ignore the dds while on MN.

Jewelsandgems - I love buying children's clothes too - you get so much more for your money . We have carpets and I want to change them for wooden floors - so much easier to clean than carpets.

Hello everyone,

Feeling a little bored today...wishing I was at work today ...got 2 months of maternity leave left to go still though....think my brain needs an exercise....

Anyone watching THIS MORNING at the moment. There is a section on Freebirthing coming up at 11:55am (no medical intervention, mw etc present at birth) - would love to see how the last done it??

Clairybee - , hope things improve, but the only thing I can think of is what I suggested previously: investigating sleep clinics, but you did mention before that you didn't think it was that much of a problem to warrent it....I find that if once DD2 falls asleep in my arms, I gently put her in the cot and then tap her for a few mins with one hand and with the other hand I cover her eyes and this usually sends her off to sleep.

Jewel/Suey - am a shop-a-holic as well and spend more money on buying clothes for my DD's than myself . Got some little bits from the GAP and HOUSE OF FRASER sale. Feel a bit guilty as DD2 has quite a few hand-me-downs from DD1, where as DD1 has a whole cupboard full of brand-spanking new clothes. Not that bothered though as DD2 doesn't realise it and am sure when they are older and more fashion consious [sp?] that's when they will be persuading me to spend......

Hello everyone,

Feeling a little bored today...wishing I was at work today ...got 2 months of maternity leave left to go still though....think my brain needs an exercise....

Anyone watching THIS MORNING at the moment. There is a section on Freebirthing coming up at 11:55am (no medical intervention, mw etc present at birth) - would love to see how the last done it??

Clairybee - , hope things improve, but the only thing I can think of is what I suggested previously: investigating sleep clinics, but you did mention before that you didn't think it was that much of a problem to warrent it....I find that if once DD2 falls asleep in my arms, I gently put her in the cot and then tap her for a few mins with one hand and with the other hand I cover her eyes and this usually sends her off to sleep.

Jewel/Suey - am a shop-a-holic as well and spend more money on buying clothes for my DD's than myself . Got some little bits from the GAP and HOUSE OF FRASER sale. Feel a bit guilty as DD2 has quite a few hand-me-downs from DD1, where as DD1 has a whole cupboard full of brand-spanking new clothes. Not that bothered though as DD2 doesn't realise it and am sure when they are older and more fashion consious [sp?] that's when they will be persuading me to spend......

We intended not to buy as many clothes this time - having found ones from DD1 still with the labels attached but sometimes you just can't help it. Friends wedding next week to which the pigglies are also invited has been a fab excuse to hit Monsoon Only problem I have have is thqt DH still hasn't made DD2's wardrobe up so everything is just sort of scattered around at the moment which is beginning to piss me off - although her christening is on 3rd Aug when my syster and brrod are coming up to stay so everything has to be done by then!!or they won't have anywhere to sleep

Armani - I know exaclty what you mean about work - must as I keep thinking I'll go to hell for saying it, I'm enjoying being back at work - even if it's tiring, dull at times and my brain is struggling to get back into it - I sill need the adult stimulous that it brings.

Claireybee - It's tough isn't it. We've found things so different with DD2 than with DD1 - giving her a dummy was a massive one which really helped to settle her - and much as I was worried about her becoming relient on it, it's not the case. There are some nights especially when her teeth/gums are hurting that she has it but generally not too bad. With DD1 though, she was a pain in the bum to settle even at 7-8 months -but once down slpet like a dream. I remember for ages having to rub her back (naughty us but she slept on her front and side mainly) for hours it seemed. No real suggestions I'm afraid as I've ome to the conclusion that what works from one is bugger all use for another and also so many other factors seem to effect things that there really would be no point. Are you able to share the hard work with your DH/DP?

As for wooden floors - easier to clean yes, but you do see all the dust and dirt more so you seem to find yourself cleaning them more often (which must be a good thing really from a health perspective I suppose!!) ALthough when you can't be arsed it is more obvious !!

Hi all sorry can never remember whats happening with who...am crap I know ..
Clairy (?) re sleep much sympathies DD1 was same and TBH it is only recently that she sleeps well (and she is nearly 7 ) DD2 is total opposite and was a good sleeper from day 1 - your friend is an arse it depends on the child IMO and I would never dream of telling a friend what to do especially by email ....
Am with you lot on big boobs and arse and getting bigger I think - am starving ALL the time with BF ......

oh and I know someone who has 3 boys (about 8,5,3 I think) and is now pregnant with unplanned pregnancy with.............TRIPLETS ...luckily her DH has a very good job so they will be able to afford help..but still

Triplets - ahh! My neighbour has twin boys (now 6) and has shared some if the nightmares/issues that it entails - not least they were both over 6 1/2 lbs!! Can't imagine having 3. Good support network vital I suspect.

holy shamoly macdoo!

poor you clairey. has your ds got toys in his cot? DD is much better now we have all of her soft quiet toys in there. but if he doesn't calm down when you pick him up could it be something else? Does he suffer from wind?

hi all

if you are bored and feel like participating in some excellent research that will take only a few mins, a girl in my department is doing a study on colic and is looking for mums of babies under a year to fill in a couple of questionnaires for her. I've done them and they take about 10 mins to complete. Anyway if you have time and inclination she would be very grateful - the link is here:

www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/showthread.php?t=187426

I am getting a strong deja-vu feeling - have I already posted this?? Sorry if I have already - too much thesis writing and brain is mush

clairey - DS is the same with the PUPD thing - doesn't settle at all. I am not going to worry about it and just feed him to sleep (have no choice really as he always falls aslepp feeding) and hope he eventually manages to settle himself one day. DD was a terrible sleeper and is now fantastic - never ever wakes up and not a murmur out of her when she goesto bed. Only two years to go then...

at th twins and at triplets

amani - that sounds like it would work - tapping/covering eyes... might try that tonight (says me completely contradicting what i have just said!)

BT - yes I think there are some problems with the questionnaires as well but atm all she wants is to get them filled in!
definitely up for the BF picnic