Dec 2007: Gummy grins give way to teething tyrants

[claraquitetirednow]

How about this?

No teeth no crawling here either - can roll back to tum now and sit very wobbly....little bit solids not a huge amount and sometimes not interested at all still likes boob above all else and very fat (in size 9-12 months).....one of youngest though born 28 Dec

Hi

No Caz you're not behind, remember these babies are all individuals and will reach the milestones in their own good pace Easier for me to say as this is my 2nd DC, with DD I was always trying to encourage her to do what the other babies were doing! DS doesn't have teeth either and doesn't roll at all. Did you and Beanster meet up on Wednesday?

Skid DS is eating really well now that I'm not doing single taste purees. He has a lot from the Plum Organic baby food range and they are quite strong and tonight ate chicken/pepper/tomato sauce with rice (I made it for DD and pureed for DS).

Welcome back MM, glad work is going well.

My little man is one day older than Mac's dd and sounds very much like her developmentally - can roll from back to front and sometimes can roll back the other way, but not always. Can sit very briefly on his own but then wobbles over, but he is lasting longer without wobbling sometimes a whole 2 minutes! And again is still very much into boob, not eating huge amounts of solids, often only having 1-2 meals a day. I've been worrying about how I am going to go from there to 3 proper meals a day! BLW is good but the problem is a lot of the foods I eat aren't suitable for him - lot of high fibre stuff! I was doing SW but have stopped it because I realised that it would make it difficult to give him the same food I eat, so am now determined to try and cut down on the crap, eat more fruit and veg and healthy stuff. Also I do feel a bit guilty at times if eat something naughty because ds gives me sad eyes when I don't offer him! He cried yesterday coz I was eating toast, until I broke him a bit off! Luckily it just had some unsalted butter and not my usual jam!!

Hello everyone can I join? DD2 born on Christmas day 2007 (on my 30th birthday no doubt!)

Also have DD1 who is 2.

Hi Jewels, welcome! I also have a two-year-old as well as my 6-month dd so (probably) feel your pain!

BT - you are very good changing your diet to suit your ds!! I'm afraid my dd2 gets a bit of whatever I am eating (within reason) so she's had lemon and poppyseed muffin, naan bread, toast and marmite with flora, and basically anything else she likes the look of!

Caz - it's easy at this stage to think your baby is "behind" but believe me, she'll have a skill stored away somewhere, I bet she'll turn out to be an early talker or something. Usually the less active ones are sitting there quietly working it all out - and once they start, they're straight into it! Also by the time they're about 18 months no-one has a clue who crawled/walked etc first as they're all about the same.

BT - sorry forgot to say ages ago, well done to your ds for clapping - that's very clever. I have been trying to teach dd2 as she likes banging things together but she just looks at me like I'm mad....

Well hopefully it'll get me eating more healthily - don't think I eat enough fruit and veg tbh!
I'm very proud of ds, he has done very well today. He went to sleep last night at 7.30 after I read him a Brer Rabbit story, woke up just before 10pm for a feed then didn't wake up until 3.10! Then he woke up at around 6am, left him in his cot as I could hear him chatting and playing with his toys, then went to him at 6.30, got him up and fed him.
He had baby porridge for breakfast, and sucked a bit of my pear afterwards. He had a lovely long nap at 10am, then had lunch at 12:30 - carrot and sweetcorn puree, good job I stripped down to his dark coloured vest as it has stained his Tommee Tippee rubber bib! And his spoon! He only ate half of the jar so I gave him some melon chunks afterwards and he was quite happy. Another nap at about 2.30 (which I joined him for!) and then he had tea, a plate of broccoli, cauli, carrots and asparagus. Broccoli is definitely a favourite, it was great watching him just tuck in - I barely had time to get the bib on! He put away a fair bit, but the best bit was he hardly dropped any on the floor
He then had nearly a full pot of Little Stars yogurt for pudding
I hope we have more days like this
However he hasn't done a poo since yesterday

You watch he'll be up every hour now

Thanks clara and yes! It is hard wrk isn't it? I also post on the 2 under 3 support thread because boy do I sometimes need support!

Wow bouncingT your DS certainly is a good eater and I thought my DD was good! She has 5 feeds in the day (last one at 2230 and then no feeds til the next morning at 6am) and starts with milk, then usually only half a jar of solid food. Saying that, she will eat anything - has never turned her nose up at any foods so far (mind you, I think that is normal when they are this young)

I've had a quick read through the past posts and can see some of your little ones have started crawling! That is so exciting for you all - DD2 rolls over back to front, front to back and is raring to go, but I don't think she'll be crawling just yet.

was wondering which of you are routine-led, and which ones just go with the flow? I am a routiney person but have sometimes wondered if it makes any difference in the long run.

Hi Jewels!
I've been weaning for 4 weeks, and so far he hasn't been eating loads and is still a boobaholic
He has also sort of being trying to crawl over the last day or so, he tries to push with his feet and lifts his bum in the air!
We are fairly routineless, only routine I've done is hed bath & bed - I take him upstairs about 6.30-7pm he goes in the bath, then a feed. I try and put him in his cot awake and read him a bedtime story but tonight he was asleep when I put him in.
He seems to be finding his own pattern, I do envy those who have got their routines going, ds has resisted my (admittedly halfhearted!) attempts to get him into a routine. He has never slept through the night though he has be grdaually dropping feeds, up until a couple of weeks ago he was waking up 3-4 times between bedtime and morning, now it's 2-3 times.

Morning everyone....

Had a busy old weekend... birthday parties and the such and am knackered. Luckily finish at 1.30 and DH has phoned in sick so will go home and chil out altogether.

Skid - hopefully they will both speak Turkish, English and Bengali to a reasonably fluent level. For about 6 months now I have been speaking to DS1 completely in Turkish and it seems to be working. Plus, we will be in Turkey for the whole of August so am hoping that will encourage him even more.

Bouncing - my colleague has left but not before we had our massive row. We dont have a replacement yet, a temp until 25 July and then possibly another 2 temps whilst I am away. My boss has handed in her notcie and leaves the day I go on hols so not sure what they are planning to do.

Caz10 -DS2 is only rolling over here, teething is imminent I think as we have all the signs, but no show as yet. Def no crawling or anything. But some do certain things quikcer than others, and as somebody else said (sorry cant remember who) when they are older nobody ever remembers who done what first.

Anybody planning for the next baby yet???

Hi everyone

Welcome Jewelsandgems, I tried to get into the two under 2s thread but I struggle to catch up!

My two are a DD 2.4 and DS 6 months.

We are inbetween routine and go with the flow, I like some structure to keep me organised so first thing and last thing of the day are routine but after breakfast to before dinner is totally go with the flow!

I wish the weather would pick up here, feels like Autumn

Morning everyone

Glad to see your back MM and hello Jewels Caz - Ethan couldnt do anything last week either, but now he can roll, has a tooth just cutting through and is trying to sit up. It will all come soon

Clara at your hotel stay, hope your managing to get sorted for your move

Jewels I also have a 2 year old, and twice a week my friends 16 month dd as well...its hard work

MM Hoping to try for another end of next year after our wedding..but will have to see how we are managing nearer the time

Hello

This thread moves fast - I'm trying to catch up!!

Jewelsandgems - welcome! I only have one dd and have so much admiration for you and everyone else on here with 2 so close together. I don't think that'll be me. I struggle with one tbh and have absolutely no desire to go through the whole birth thing again

clairey at your friend. How dare she lecture you when this is her first! From your posts I always think you seem like you really know what you're doing and anyway aren't friends supposed to support each other?? As others have said, maybe her little darling will turn in to a terrible toddler

Caz - ditto. Every day I feel as if I'm not doing enough to help dd's development but in my more sane moments I realise that all babies are different and do things at their own pace. My dd has had 2 teeth since she was 5 mths but has only just been able to sit up properly in the last few days. She's not all that interested in food although she is making some progress.

Suey - belated happy birthday. Sounds like you had a lovely night out with your dh. We've been out about 4 or 5 times together since dd was born and it really makes you feel normal again!!

I've been feeling a bit down recently - not really sure why. Mostly to do with feeling like a crap mum. I think it's just a phase I'm going through but I think I'll be on mn a lot in the next few days!

Oh MM I would love another baby but cannot BEAR the thought of being pregnant and going throught those first few months again. Really don;t knwo what to do because i'm not getting any younger... but definitely not for the moment - are you thinking about a number 3?
How is it going living with your BIL btw? Is it better than you feared?

claraq - 2 weeks!!! Oh my goodness, didn't realise it was so soon. Hope the next pair of teeth come through before you leave..

macdoodle - glad you're feeling better - I didn't know mastitis could get better without ABs. re BF if you and DD are both happy continuing then why would you stop? I also get a few looks/comments but it makes me quite as WHO/this government all recommend that you BF for a year/two years or more so why on earth we should be made to feel uncomfortable about BF our 7 month olds is beyond me. I would never judge someone who decided to stop BF before this reccommended time and neither should I be judged for doing what everyone recognises is best for my baby Grrrrr

Hi jewelsandgems and welcome! I'm not really a routine person interms of feeds but am in terms of bedtimes and bathtimes. Also because I also have a 2yr old DD, DS just fits in with her mealtimes as well

caz10 - no you're not alone - Ds has no teeth, doesn;t roll and doesn;t crawl although is very sturdy sitting and can stand for a few seconds on his own

hi louise and fifi - how did you manage to squeeze in there without me noticing!

fifi - well done on convincing your dp to actually start trying for another! You have made admirable progress!!

louise - you sound like you are a great mum and your DD will sit up/crawl etc whenever she is genetically programmed to do so - nothing at all to do with your mothering. FWIW I didn't say a word until I was 2 years old (my mum took me to the doctor because she thought I was deaf!) but once I started I (apparently) progressed at a phenomenal pace and was way above normal language skills by age 3 - so just because babies do things a bit later than others doesn't mean that they won't end up just as good or better

although saying that me and my Dh have already labelled our children as looks (DS) and brains (DD)! Isn't that awful? we don't really mean it, well i don't anyway

Hahaha skidd that was so funny, re: looks and brains.

I would love number 3, but we have agreed to wait until DS2 is 3 and DS1 is 5. That way at least one is at school and DS2 may even be at nursery. So will start ttrying when DS2 is about 2.5 as I have fallen preg straight away with both. DH is not so keent ho as he feels he would def WANT a girl and may not be happy to have a boy so from that point of view he has to move on a bit first.

BIL is still a pain the backside. Getting on my nerves. On the plus side the relationship with the ILs has improved greatly. I even held a baby shower for my SIL the other week, so feeling much more relaxed and chilled out. Apparently MIL has approached BIL about getting married... have told DH tho that no way is he gettin married then moving in here with his wife. He does have a gf tho so not sure what we he exactly plans on doing.

Skid - I always get my own way
No seriously he's just said that he's more than happy with what we've got but if it meant that much he'd consider another.
I'd have one now if i didnt have my wedding booked

fifi - don't let a wedding stand in your way - I got married when 6 months preg with DS - no pressure to look good and choose a proper dress, and had that ready-made pregnancy glow so no make-up! Only problem was I couldn't drink but at least I can remember everything..

MM - that's great you're getting on better with your ILs - must be such a relief - if your BIL did get married might that be an excuse for you to move elsewhere? Or is that not really an option?

Think I'm the same as you re 3rd child - wait till DS is 3 - can't bear the thought of doing a toddler and a newborn again. I would also really like another girl but i would be happy with either. I can understand your DH wanting one too if this will be your last baby but you're right - I suppose he needs to know he'll be OK with it being a boy as well

One of my colleagues just walked in on me expressing - male as well - he was fine though, wanted to have a look at what BM looked like!

Haha about your colleague Skid.

We cant afford to move which is why we are back here... but I couldnt bear to have yet another person in the house and presumably she would be about more than him as she would be cooking / washing etc. I just cant stand the whole silent treatment. He just completely ignores me all together now. But i honestly want nothing from him cos when does speak to people it is liek shit so would rather he didnt bother. Just wish he would leave and we could have our own space. Plus if we have another baby there will be no space as DC can share at the moment and their room is not very big but def cannot get a 3rd baby in there and BIL room is huge in comparison to their little room.

Toddlers and newborns are so hard, double pushchairs / slings / buggy boards... all of this I cand efinitely do without.

Oh DS1 got offered a place at our local childrens centre on Friday am popping in with my mum to have another look around and ask all my questions. DS2 is likely to be offered in Jan apparently which means they wont be in the same place for a bit, but the cost is so different, they only do f/t but the cost is same as the p/t places i have been looking at. They are happy for me to pick them up at any point in the day tho so that is good.

hello all,
BT do you have the plum baby carrot and sweetcorn? DD loves that one.

Well, she is officially crawling now. slowly, but definitely one limb after the other.

Caz10 my NT mate came round last week with her DS- he is barely sitting but has just started saying ma ma ma da da da: millie is nowhere near that. I also think boys can be slower with the physical stuff because they are that much bigger.

poor you louise! i am sure we have all felt like that at some point over the last 6 or 7 months. I felt much better when i got back to work as it goes: at least i can do something well! but now we have turned the corner and i feel so lucky to have such a happy little girl.

Hi all

Louise - what makes you think you are a crap mum? I don't suppose you are for a moment! I think we all beat ourselves up about something (with me, giving up breastfeeding at 4.5 months and the fact that at the moment she wakes about 6 times in the night for her dummy!!) but I suspect that 99.9% of the people who come on Mumsnet are good mums - just that fact that you care enough about parenting to be on a parenting website says enough if you ask me!

MM - your situation at home sounds like quite a strain - I bet you're glad to get back to work in many ways! You sound like you are coping with it all very well though. You were talking about multi-lingual children earlier; we are wondering whether our dd's will pick up any Urdu when we are in Pakistan. As Martha will literally just be learning to talk when we get out there she'll probably get it really easily. In fact she'll probably be teaching me in a year or two!

Skid - although I KNOW I don't want any more children (I never ever want to be that tired again!), if I did I think I would wait about 3 years(if time was on my side, which it isn't). I definitely wouldn't do them so close together again - but on the other hand I am really glad I did this time. Does that make any sense????? Anyway you're only a spring chicken aren't you? I got pregnant with my first, first month of trying, at 37 and with my 2nd (about 5 months of trying) at 39. So don't fret too much about your age - although I know we were really lucky for me to get pregnant so quickly at this age.

Oooh Martha has been asleep for nearly 2 hours - I'm liking this long afternoon nap business!

I'm with you guys who want a 3 yr age gap, we will ttc when DS is 2, I am hoping to stop breastfeeding when he turns 1 so that gives me at least a year of really getting fit and slim and enjoying some nights out etc before being pregnant. THink my body would appreciate a bit of a break as well

Skid did your work colleague know you were expressing? How curious of him, does he have kids?

Suey DD loves the Plum range and I have tasted all the ones I've given him and really like the fact they taste homemade. Such handy little pots as well

Beanster are you online? Do you fancy meeting up this wednesday? DD will be at the childminder so just me and DS.

Afternoon all,

Don't know what has come over me this afternoon (prob a few nights of GOOD sleep as opposed to waking up 3 times for god knows how many months) but have felt inspired and made lots of ...... FAIRY CAKE! . Not like me at all to get into tthis baking business, but now have a whole pile of yummy cakes.....will prob distribute to my neightbours...(oooh, I sound like someone who belongs in the WALTONS era

Skid - lol how funny!! Well done you for expressing at work though.

MM - can't believe your BIL - at least you got your hol to look forward to.

Claraq - enjoy your break. I always make sure DD1 and DD2 nap at the same time each afternoon and they usually sleep for 2 hrs which gives me a nice break.

Hi Mixedmama-glad to see you back! Also good to hear the situation with the IL's is improving though sorry BIL is still a PITA

Clara I am very jealous of the long nap, although I'll let you off because you probably spend it madly rushing to try and get stuff done for the move!

Caz DS is quite advanced in sitting/crawling but he was definitely the last one on here to smile! No teeth here. Also he still can't self settle and feeds 4+ times a night.

Louise I don't feel like I know what I'm doing but I don't tend to worry about things much or think about whether I should be doing certain things, just go with the flow I guess. It drives dh mad cos he likes to have a plan! Sorry you've been feeling low, fwiw I think your dd is doing very well-look how well she sleeps for example!

Have had another email from my friend elaborating on her sleep training. The thing is I really don't mind being given advice and I don't think me having more children than her makes me any more qualified than her but I do object to the tone of it and the way she is basically telling me what to do without me ever having said anything more than ds doesn't sleep through! She has written it as if I am a complete idiot (eg 'try giving him his dummy when he wakes instead of automatically feeding him, you are probably causing him to wake for feeds he doesn't need' er ok because trying his dummy first had never occurred to me). Anyway I do feel slightly better about it because I told my mum about it and she said that friends mum has been telling her how difficult my friend is finding it and that she isn't really coping very well-I suppose maybe by giving me advice she feels more on top of things...

Fifi/skid I was also a pregnant bride, got married when I was 20 weeks pregnant with dd. TBH i was relieved because the IL's wanted a big traditional wedding and I really didn't so being pregnant gave me a get out!

Welcome jewels! I have dd 2.1 and ds who was born in dec-I don't have enough eyes/hands most of the time!