August 2007- The one where we miss our plonkable babies! They're licking the pram wheels as we type...

[JamesAndTheGiantBanana]

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onkertree

Sorry you are feeling bad today. I can not even imaging how hard it is to work. I hate this stage where they can crawl/walk but have no balance. Lexie has a bruise on her forehead as she headbutted the coffee table when she let go while standing then tryed to turn around .

I can not to go back to work as i/we can not afford to buy and run a second car and childcare fees so i have to wait until next year when my mum retires and she will help to look after my dc, lucklier the school dd1 will be at in september is just 2 houses down from hers.

I'm now deciding what course to do while i'm a home can not choose between a book keeping course or a course so i can work in schools.

Opps sorry

Conkertree not onckertree .

Conker - sorry you're having a bad day.

Don't feel too bad about working. I'm sure you're providing a much better quality of life for your family by bringing in the extra income. I wish I could afford not to work as well as I hate missing out on all the little things she does but I know that we'd really struggle financially if I didn't and by working we can afford the nice things in life like holidays and toys for Caitlin etc.

Chin up.

thanks hersetta and lizziemum - think it would be fine if work was busier as the day would go a bit faster - i dont like my job anyway and am planning to start a kilt making business soon, but still training on Fridays and will be for a wee while - that doesnt help either as it means a four hour journey north on a thursday night and back down on a friday night - but i know its all a means to and end, so just have to get on with it.

but on the other hand, i had an egg from our own chickens for lunch today so that was very nice. also was reading some topics on other threads and think i might be getting a bit broody.

just realised that was a very insensitive thing to say tasha - sorry.

hope you are ok tasha.

Hello ladies - no word frmo Tasha yet?

We are the house of sick and disgusting children here. Whatever Evie had has passed through her, and this morning aftr I changed her foul nappiy, she shot a spray of poo across the floor whiel I reached fro a clean nappy. hmmmmmm. Nice... not.

Billy is lying on the sofa dying quietly. I am mena mummy as I won't give him anything to eat. He's thrown up 3 times today. The vax has been well used...

I knnow what you mean about work - we di the maths, and we are only about £100 a month better off with me in work, by the time you take off fees- but if I didn't work I'd have both kids here all week, which would drive me insane. Work has been sooooo hard this first few eeks back (just bad timing on my part going back wehn I did), so this enforced week at home with sickly kids has bee quite nice.

It's also only 2 weeks til we go to Malta... hurrah!!! Evei can eat sand instead of grass fro a change!

Excuse me for a mo.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH.

FFS When did Lexie learn to climb the BL**DY stairs.

Thank you i feel better now .

Lizzie- yep, J attempted it the other day, banged his chin on the first step and hasn't tried it again since. And my stairgate has now arrived so I've foiled his plan.

J's been trying to pull himself up today, hasn't quite mastered it yet. He's also been banging the hall door against the wall and he shut me in the kitchen because he was behind a door than opened out towards him. Spent nearly ten minutes carefully pushing the door back a mm at a time. Sorry, but in I am hating this stage with a passion (I have some rather prickly PMT going on too which doesn't help)

Conker sorry you're not having a good day chuck- poor struan's little nose! it isn't insensitive to say you're broody on a postnatal thread- if this isn't the place for such talk then where is? and I'm sure tasha would agree. I hope you're home and ok tasha, let us know how you and your boys are getting on if you get a spare 5 mins, we've all had you in our thoughts, hon.

Sagpuss, oh no, flying poo! I remember that from when J was newborn- was changing him at waist level and he suddenly shot green poo all over my stomach- Nice!! Hope they're feeling better soon, must be hard dealing with more than one poorly child.

We are off to S/Wales this weekend to see dp's family and friends, hope the PMT doesn't keep up, I cried earlier because J wouldn't lie still while I wiped his bum.

James it was 6 steps.

Oh my god! wow, that's an achievement, really.

Ah James, I'm not a big fan of this stage either (as I have said!)

I'm finding it really hard to keep ds amused and out of danger/ trouble! He is litterally the nosiest and noisiest little person on God's green earth. So adorable and so clever but too bloody inquisitive. My friend's babies at this age just seemed so calm and placid. Mine's into everything, pulling himself up, falling over, dragging things out of cupboards, standing up in his cot in the middle of the night!

Night times here have gone to pot. Joseph wakes up in the early hours of the morning, sits up and cries, only goes back to sleep when either me or dh are holding him. If we put him back in his cot he wakes up and cries again.

Consequently our day began at 2:30am yesterday and 3:30am this morning I just fel like the first 8 months of him settling himself have been pointless and like he will never sleep through again which is totally heartbreaking as he was SUCH a good sleeper. I can't bring myself to do the controlled crying thing either, it seems cruel if he is genuinely scared to be away from us at the moment. It would be like someone locking me in a tank with an enormous spider and expecting me to go to sleep peacefully. I keep reminding myself that it's probably just separation anxiety and it will pass but then I get scared that it will become a habbit and he will never sleep through again

Anyway, enough grumbling. Just wanted to get it off my chest and complain to someone. Does anyone have any experience of this and will it pass? Or am I doomed to never sleep again? Arrrgghh.

Wow Lizzie, 6 steps, bloody hell, she'll be going for Everest next! That is impressive but also scary. I've always had a stair gate thankfully (to keep the dog downstairs when we go out) but I'm so pleased I have one!

DH is putting Joseph to bed so I'm off to wash bottles and tidy up then try and get an early night as who knows what time I'll be up in the morning!

MeandmyJoe, will he sleep in with you guys? I'm afraid I don't care as much about routines and future good behaviour as much as I deeply care that I get enough sleep right now! J's sleeping habits have deteriorated since I put him in his own room. He still goes off fine, but he has me up several times in the night, and now he's up sometime between 5.30 and 6.30am (used to be 8.30!) and comes in with us.

Trouble is he gets so excited at seeing his daddy (I'm chopped liver, me) he takes ages to get back to sleep, but when/if he does he'll sleep another hour or two, although it's not good sleep for me as I'm afraid he'll crawl off again and fall off the bed before I realise he's moved.

By the way it's not just Joe, James never stops and he's always doing something dangerous or annoying, today he forcibly ripped the carpet up at the bottom of the stairs exposing the carpet treads. He yanks on the dining chairs, pulls on the hanging highchair straps, tries to stand using his mostly empty shallow toybox, rattles the fireguard, licks my flipflop, pulls on my laptop cable... he'll play with anything except his sodding toys.

It's so overwhelming, I have renewed respect for anyone with more than one child!

Evie's favourite is still eating anything in sigh that doesn't move.. bank statemnets, leaves, day old toast, computer cables, clothes pegs. She is a shoe licker too, and if a nappy sack isleft in reach she grabs that too. Turn your back fro a flaming instant and the thing is stugffed in her throat.

Billy was NEVER like this!!! I swear!! Her sleepiong isn't great - she's usually up by five to or five past 6 - and right now it's 4.45, when she wakes and is starving through not having had a lot of milk or food. Hopefully we'll start to crack this one, as I am shattred. I'm going to get a black out blind too.

James, I suspect the move is not the reason James wakes early. It is coincidence - and more down to the fact that at this age they get more curious, and more able to stop themselves falling back to sleep. They fight it, and they are aware there are more interesting things to do - liek terrorise parents!!

Sleep well all...

Hi, I'm at home again today. Mum has a hospital appointment. She's asked me to take her so I've still got to leave the house at normal tim

Conker - I know how you feel about working, although I wouldn't want to be a full time sahm, the kids would drive me mad and we'd have no money and I'd have no car.

Impressed with the stair climbing Lizzie! James - another door obsessed baby here.

meandmyjoe - try not to worry too much about the sleeping. Both of my dcs go through phases of sleeping badly but they get over it soon enough. Could it be teeth? Agree you should't do cc if you feel Joe's genuinely upset.

sagpuss - Alex has been waking by 5:30 (at the latest) for months. I make sure dh takes his turns at getting up early with him. I'm sure it's just hunger but he won't have any milk in the evening now. His last meal is between 4pm and 5pm. Glad evie's feeling better now.

that was supposed to say normal time not normal tim.

I hope you and your mum get on ok today.

Have you tried giving a dream feed when you go to bed. This is what i did when Lexie keep waking up at 'silly O'clock' it seems to help as now she wakes between 6am and 6.30am.

Glad Joe isn't the only one who has an obsession with all things dangerous! Lol.

He actually slept OK last night, from 7pm til 5am which is still way too early to be getting up but it's a big improvement from 2:30am! I sooooo miss the days he went down at 7:30 and slept til 8am. Oh God, why didn't I realise how lucky I was!?

Shrinking, my ds has a thing for bank statements too, in fact any important documents really. Found him sucking on the mortgage statement yesterday and he shreaded my council tax bill last month but I'm not too worried about that!

I find whenever I get peed off with constantly telling him 'no' and distracting him from things, I always take a deep breath and think "It could be worse if he had been a twin". That seems to put it into perspective! I really wonder how people cope with twins. i mean it must be possible but there is just no way I could deal with 2 Joseph's!

Anyway James, he will come in with us providing it's still dark outside. His room is blacked out and ours isn't so as soon as he sees the light, he's awake. He also gets way too excited about seeing daddy and is laughing and climbing all over him, then cries when I try and lay him down and make him go back to sleep. There's far more interesting things to do!

I must admit, I'm not a big one for routines except bedtime, Joseph just seemed to fall into the routine we have and as he slept through from 10 weeks, we daren't have changed it! Of course we've had to adapt since teething and separation anxiety but on the whole I still know that nights could be a lot worse. I read threads from peole with babies his age and they have NEVER slept through so I know we have been lucky for the first 9 months so I guess it's our turn to be challenged now! I don't mind too much though, I'm more worried about him being well rested and happy, which for the past couple of days he hasn't been due to the ridicullously early starts but he seems better today.

Right, best go and get dressed as I've got people coming to dig up my garden and lay turf today and I'm not sure the sight of me slobbing out in my purple dressing gown would be altogether a welcoming one!
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P.S Tasha, we are thinking of you and hoping you are doing well. Sending you hugs. x

Off to South Wales for the long weekend now, should be back late monday night.

Hope your little 'uns are feeling better, sagpuss. And hope all's well with your Mum, Gill (how's her SW diet going by the way?) Tasha, hope you're alright love x

Take care everyone see you soon xxx

Have a good weekend James.

hey just a quicky to let you all know that im ok physically but im gonna stay away a while so i dont fill our lovely new thread with my emotions. sagpuss the place i went too wasnt too nice either it was like i was buying a sofa got 2 reciepts one saying one to one consultation £75.00 and another saying cs up to 14 wks £540.00 well i hope everyone is well and im sure ill be back on in a couple of days xxxx

Thanks for letting us know your ok(ish) tasha i was beginning to worry. Hope to see you soon.

ok just read back a bit. conker no that wasnt insensitive, there was a lady brought her new born baby into the clinic and that didnt bother me i have a baby thats still in 0-3 month clothes lol and im not broody. just feel guilty. oh lady was thrown out its quite silly really bringing a newborn to a clinic that does abortions.

lizzie- omg climbing stairs! go lexie!

james- have a nice time.

ive browsed through everyones updated pics and as always they are all georgous. lo is still doing really well and is starting to fill out around the cheeks.

off to put kids to bed and open my first bottle of wine. i just cant keep away much longer lol

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Thanks knickers! Actually he slept from 7pm til 5:30am which granted is still an early rise but I was prepared and went to bed early. I can handle getting up early as long as he isn't up and down in the night as I have trouble going back to sleep once I've woken. Glad the pregnancy is going OK now.

Tasha, so glad you are doing fairly OK. It must be very hard for you. Bless your little ds still in 0-3 month clothes! Joseph was born having to wear 0-3 clothes cos he's a bloody giant and his clothes cost me a fortune as he grows so quick. I was a bit shocked about that woman bringing a baby into the clinic. Glad they threw her out though, very insensitive of her to think that was a good idea

Right best be off as ds has finished his toast and is clearly wanting out of his highchair!

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