FEB 08- Sore nips and no naps continued!!!!

[sarahmikeharryandrosie]

Hi Ladies thought i wouls open the thread but i have no imagination- hence the title!!!!

Blimey, I knew it had been a while but not that long!! Am trying to catch up on posts at the mo, on both threads!!

Its been manic here. Have finally stopped breast feeding. Bit sad about it but ds2 just stopped feeding properly so had to be realistic. Now have page 3 style boobs that are so painful!! Hoping it'll only be another couple of days before they subside but I dread to think what they're going to look like when they do!!

Ds2 is putting weight on again and is just such a picture of gorgeousness. He's getting so much better with his hands now that he's grabbing things and babbling at the dangly toys in his playgym. He's finished his jabs and sorry but his 3rd ones were the worst - especially as there is 3 of the buggers!!! Apart from that he's been fab. We even had one night last week when he slept solidly from 6-6am although it was just the once and he's now up at 5,30 and I have to try and get him to sleep again until a more realistic time otherwise he'd want to go to bed at 4pm!!! Loves being bounced around which leads me to believe he's going to be as mad as his brother. I will definitely need more than beroca once he's on the move!!!

Hope everyone is still well and will obviously respond more meaningfully once I've caught up!!

Hi all, just got back from PIL's and tried to catch up on all the news!

Sally - lovely blog and so many interesting websites! Makes me want to donate some milk to the hospital. Funny that they don't ask you about donating milk when you have the baby?

Egg - so glad that DD is eating more (sorry about lack of sleep!) I have been sharing a room with both DD2 and LO for the last few days and DD2 (who is 11!!) has had the cheek to wake me in the night to sort out a 'too hot duvet' or 'open the window' - outrageous I say! Glad we are home now!

Lotions.. i don't use anything - but I like the idea of grapeseed oil. I will try it for massage.

No rolling here either - at 14 weeks! Though she is so round and fat I am surprised!

Tyaca - we let her cry herself to sleep if she is overtired too. Sometimes she is crying coz she needs a burp!

Miss natalie - you are doing SO well with weight loss! If it comes off slowly it stays off!. I on the other hand have stalled - just ate a whole packet of gingernut biscuits!

Ginger - no washing machine!!! hell!

Morning all

Ginger- no washing machine is hell, we've just had to buy a new one. So now I'm trying to catch up on all the washing and ironing.

DD was sick this morning after her feed. I swear it all came back up. Only thing is, for the morning feed I'm too lazy to get up to bring her down stairs to feed, so end up feeding her in bed. So my bed sheets are now in the washing machine, her sleeping bag is in there, have had to wash the floor as well. I just hope they get a chance to dry today, didn't stop raining yesterday. But looks sunny today

On the subject of people learning to drive -my DH is learning, its taken him long enough to apply for his provisional. I'm not willing to take him out in the car, and he's not willing to go out in the car with me!!

Arhian - good luck with the laundry, I'm so behind on my drying that I am now down to my emergency nappies.
I used to use olive oil on DD1 when she had dry skin and it was great. I've also used it on DD2's cradle cap but have since found that leaving it alone completely works better.

Sally - hope you don't mind that I've added you as a friend on LJ

Rozzy - not tested again as yet, I'm starting to wonder if it is all stress related.
As for teething - I can't remember when to start thinking about that, DD2 has been chewing my hand lots but I think she just likes chewing things.

Up again at 2am, 4am and 6am. I wish we could go back to her newborn sleeping pattern of 1-2 feeds a night

Hi All,

Beansprout ? To answer your question: infants and children undergo the most rapid development at this stage in their lives, and for me a consultant paediatrician is the best person to reassure all is as it should be, or deal with a problem as early as possible. In the States, paediatricians routinely provide primary healthcare to children instead of GPs. They will see the child from babyhood through to their teenage years. The reason why we do not do this here is due to cost. Marcus has had a number of checks and the next one is when he is 6 months old. GPs do a developmental check at 8 weeks and that?s it.

Egg ? I go through 12 bottles a day! Two for water and two per feed (need to mix in one and pour into a second bottle to check for lumps etc as it is a very thick mixture).

HV is coming today. She has more than 30 years experience and is wonderful. Looking forward to getting Marcus weighed and measured.

Regarding lotions - I just use olive oil every day.

It?s approaching the anniversary of when we all learnt that we were pregnant. Exactly a year ago today I had my first blood test (used the ?wee sticks? first). Spent a nerve wrecking afternoon waiting for the phone to ring and was over the moon with the result. Had a second blood test 48 hours later, and another desperate wait to see what the hCG level was. Had the first scan the following week at week 5, saw a gestational sac and a year later my baby is asleep in his crib. I can't believe it at times.

Afternoon all,

I am so tired. Weve had a terrible night. Henley is poorly and very grouchy. He started with a cough yesterday which got worse through the night. Poor little mite got hardly any sleep lastnight. His cot is covered in sick, hes covered in sick (already changed him 4 times today). Everytime he coughs, hes sick. Not massive amounts but enough to make him gag. Ive managed to get him an appt at the doctors for 4.25pm. Its the locum doc were seeing, not our usual one. Hope he can sort him out.

My mum and sis are trying to get me to start him on solids but his consultant has told me not to until at least 6 months (maybe even 7 or 8 months) due to his calcium and vitamin D difficency. I dont think they mean to but they make me feel stupid sometimes. I heared my sis the other week telling her frien that im mad for doing everything by the book and listening to his consultant . She drives me mad.

Ive got my first counselling session tomorrow for the PND. Im not looking forward to it and dont really want to go but i cant cancel as ive already done that twice and came up with stupid excuses. I hope that it help and i hope that i get on with him. I'll let you know how it goes.

My sis had her 20w scan yesterday and found out that she having another boy. After the birth shes being sterilised but shes only 21!! She'll be 22 once the baby arrives. Shes adamant she doesnt want anymore chilren after this one. I on the other hand want loads more. I think i want about 6. When i told DP his face was a picture.

I haver no idea how much i weigh at the moment. Not going to weigh myself though as ive come on and always weigh a few lb more around this time.

Has the length of anyones cycles changed since having you LOs. Since starting my periods ive ALWAYS had a 28 day cycle but since having Henley i have a 26 day cycle and only bleed for 3-4 days. Although they are VERY heavy now but i dont seem to have any pain or cramps. Not that im complaining

Wow, I can't keep up with you all!! My DS2 is 13 weeks now. Is there a growth spurt around now? It's just that he's sleeping a lot in the day. NB. Very hot and humid over here, so maybe it's making him sleepy.

I was looking back at a notebook I kept for DS1. I sued to write down the times of every feed, which boob, and how long. DS2 is way behind DS1. At 10 weeks DS1 was sleeping through. DS2 is still waking at 2am and around 5am. Anyone else like this, or are the babies sleeping through now? PLEASE SAY YES!!!!

Grea to hear how everyone is getting on.

Thanks for all the nice comments on my breastfeeding article!

By the way is anyone else's LO making bizarre noises. Mine seems to be imitating our creaky doors I do not think it is a hoarse voice because in the same breath he will also coo sweetly...

..but he prefers to do the creaky door noise. its well weird.

Lucy, when are you moving? PILs coming down this weekend.

Sally, DD makes weired noises as well. She sometimes sounds like a monkey. What's more freaky is that she was snoring the other night, with her eyes still open.

Has anyone tried the new nappy from totsbots?

Sally - my LO growls when she is cross. If her needs aren't seen to quickly she launches into full blown crying! She also 'talks' for minutes at a time - exploring the sounds she can make and we chat back pretending we understand what she is saying!

Natalie - sterilised at 21!!!! that is pretty confident! I just had LO at 40 and am loving it! But horses for courses! Good on you for sticking to your guns re parenting advice. Good luck with the counsellor.

Quiet one - LO wakes once or twice a night depending on when she goes down. I am not stressing about this -though when I go back to work she will HAVE to sleep through!! (and I've told her so!)

Lovely HV came and Marcus has shot up to the 50th centile for weight and height! Am stunned. All the hard work with the new feed is paying off.

Evening all. So nice to see so many MIA names surface. Ginger and Omy ? feels like academic year is coming to an end, are you both going to try to get back to work for a couple of weeks before summer?

Sarah ? congrats on your 3lb lost. Getting v bored with dieting ? demoralising to have only lost 2lb in five weeks. BUT fitted into another pair of my pre-preg jeans, so maybe scales don?t tell the whole story. Mind you, that a v liberal use of the word ?fitted? ? I can do up the fly, but it sure aint comfortable, and it creates about nineteen muffin tops! Completely off post-natal topic, but I saw a woman at the gym on Monday who was eating while on cycling machine. In twenty min I saw her eat a Danish pastry, a croissant and a packet of crisps? She had a tescos bag hung over back of machine ?

I?m in the no-lotions camp too. My sil gave me a bumper box of waleda goodies and save for the nappy cream, she seems better off with nothing. Have started using the face cream on myself

Echo what others said about your article/blog sally and ty for link leesmum.

Countto10 ? hope your boobs are feeling better now?.

Miss Natalie ? good luck with counsellor tomo. Do go ? counselling and therapy are proved to be the most effective ways to treat depression bar none. it?s not an overnight cure but hopefully a step in the right direction. Saying that, if you don?t gel with counsellor after a few sessions, do investigate other people your gp could refer you to as its v imp to be talking to someone and would be a shame not to continue just cause you didn?t get on with the first person you see.

Mitford ? the regents park thread is a lonely place, frequented by just me and a right-before-ds-scare bean. Keep meaning to start a new one up and promote better

All up and down here. Took dd out facing forward in baby bjorn today for first time. She seemed to like it and good to know that there?s an awake way of taking her out in it. Before when she?d woken up inward facing she got quite fidgety. Also was hoping that the extra stimulation would make for better sleep and a peaceful night ?. Felt suddenly and overwhelming v low today ? no idea why. Hope it?s pmt or at least a v temporary blip. Dd starting to cry and know she?s exhausted cause so much happened today and she didn?t sleep between half three and seven which is a recipe for disaster. Dh playing football, know that I should just let her cry this out but may have to position myself on balcony with a whiskey for the next ten min?..

Arhian - moving 7th of June, we still haven't had confirmation on the new house and I am stressed out waiting to hear back. At the moment it feels like we have nowhere to go.
Good luck with the PIL , give them a hug from me! I haven't tried the new tots bots but I have heard some bad things about them (I think it was over on clothnappyaddicts.co.uk)
DP is at his leaving do tonight and I'm so tired that I'm off to bed as soon as I've spoken to my Mum. Amazingly both DD's are asleep!

Ty - the scales definitely don't tell the whole story - with all the exercise you've been doing you will definitely have been toning up.

Missnatalie - that must be so annoying when your sister says things like that. I would definitely follow your consultants advice. Just giving him milk for a few more months will definitely not do him any harm where as starting solids with his history might. Getting sterilised at 21 seems young to me too. Even now at 32 I'm not ready to take such a permanent step - you just don't know what the future holds or how you'll feel in a few years time. Some people are very sure about these things though. On the periods mine haven't returned yet. I do remember my mum telling me that one of my aunts had gone to the doctors when she was young about painful periods. The only advice she was given was that having babies might help because it might settle things down a bit. Good luck with counsellor - no harm in going.

Lucy - ds1 cut his first 2 teeth at 20 weeks which is why I think the drooling and slimy nappies could be the early signs of teething for ds3. I know it could still be a while though.

Went shopping today and got a lovely pair of jeans from oasis. Managed to fit into my pre-preg size (although I'm sure they'll look better once I've lost another 1/2 stone). They're high waisted so avoids the rolls of baby stretched skin hanging over the top!! Got a couple of nice tops too so I'm looking forward to looking ok when we're away next weekend.

My lo is still up once or twice a night - only takes max 15mins to feed though so not too bad.

My mums just phoned to see if I think the older 2 boys would like to go and stay with her on Sat night - will be nice to have some one on one time with Andrew although I'm sure I'll miss them.

Take care allxx

Good morning.

Missnatalie - hope things are looking up a bit today and your LO is feeling better. My mum is also putting the pressure on re solids, but I am resisting.

Arhian - I bought tots bots (not the new ones) and Kushies, and I find the Kushies way better. Dd can be in a Kushies nappy for about 8 hours before it starts to leak (bad, disorganised, mother who forgot to bring a spare nappy out icon)

Egg - how is dd doing now? Has she been eating more?

Tyaca - I also have 19 muffin tops

Oh, I meant to ask, what happened to lovemymum? Does she have a different name now or is she MIA?

Morning

Are the LO due for a growthspurt at 13 weeks. DD sat in her chair watching me with wild,crazy eyes at the moment which makes me think she's hungry. But she's not due a feed for another hour.

I got a couple of those new flexitots. The inside feel really soft. We had ordered the trial pack of cloth nappies from our council, but when they arrived, they were the flat nappies, and so bulky, I thought DH would never use them. At least with the Ft DH is a bit more willing to try them cause they look like a disposable.

Oh my, best go feed DD, she is now giving me the evils

Arhian - cloth nappies are great, I got DP trained to use them quite quickly but he hasn't attempted flat ones yet
Which nappies did they send you? I'm a bit of a cloth addict myself but I'm on the wagon for now after a spending spree.
Last night I put DD2 down before I got DD1 into bed and she stayed asleep until I woke her at 1am (she wasn't in a night nappy and I didn't want her leaking everywhere)
She then went back off to sleep until 4am which is great for her, I don't know what changed yesterday. I feel well rested for once though!

Lucy - The council sent me the JuniorJoy prefold cotton nappies. They were just really bulky. They also sent a pack of liners & 3 wraps, so using them with the FT.

Am quite lucky at mo Eirwen tends to sleep right through. She wakes me up though in the night when she goes into a light sleep, she starts hitting the bed and making a load of noises, whilst still asleep.

She was awake at 6 this morning though, which is slightly earlier that usual. Am blaming DH, I'd gone down to make his dinner for work, left him upstairs, when he came down he said she was wide awake. I wonder why!

Right, I best get my a@@ into gear, got a load of ironing to do, and so little time.

Never tried prefolds, I have used terries though and they are great. I've also recently discovered bumgenius and I cannot stress how good they are, especially the bamboo ones. The all in ones are meant to be amazing too (I think I may try them when I've sold my tiny nappies)
It's weird how they wake up as soon as you leave the room. DP can be fast asleep but DD2 still wakes herself up when I just leave the room for the toilet!

mitfords! you have a february 2009 doppleganger - just seen this thread in the pregnancy section

Just popping into say hi -haven't been here since last Friday so got some catching up to do. Have had a HARD week on hols with LO who is seriously displaying teething behaviour and no longer sleeping through the night. Hope everyone's ok!

Hi all-well thats week 2 at work completed- now going to have a hot bath and a very large glass of RED WINE mmmmmmm

Had shit day- Hubbys job fell thru- so hes looking again- then mum came home to tell me she had been laid off from her new job of 3 weeks as its not really working apparently- She is gutted!!!!!

I feel like all i do lately is hunt the net for jobs xxxx

Kids have been great though-

Hope all well Speak ova the weekend when i have chilled a little xxx

Hi all, trying to keep up with you lot is impossible! Not much to say here, I never sleep enough. Baby has been very unsettled at night in last week, in daytime he's also less willing to be put down under the gym or by himself, I hope he settles soon!!!

Sitting up tonite to watch crime-show tv, safe and predictable telly...

Er, I don't do lotions either, probably because I'm too disorganised. Or does sudocreme after DS has been left too long in a dirty nappy count??

I gather your DD is recovering, Egg, hope she continues to do so.

Has anyone tried taking their LO swimming (public pools), yet?

lljkk - re public pools...TODAY i got LO all togged out in a swimming nappie and was all excited about her first swim, but when we got to the baby pool it was closed for cleaning as someone had just pooed!! It has turned me off the idea for a while! Then I realised I had forgotten to bring a spare normal nappy so LO went home in the swimming nappy - by the time we got home she had pooed all over herself and the car seat!! So I now know that the swimming nappy I bought is RUBBISH!!