FEB 08- Sore nips and no naps continued!!!!

[sarahmikeharryandrosie]

Hi Ladies thought i wouls open the thread but i have no imagination- hence the title!!!!

I can't imagine how truly awful it must be to have a really sick baby. Hope ferdie is getting better, and you can cry and get some sleep princess.

Oh Princess we are so relieved to hear from you you have a good cry and give ferdie a big hug from all his aunties on here xxx

Rozzy DS1's nursery is integrated in the primary school, its a seperate building but they all wear the same, white shirt,red tie, green v neck jumper and grey trousers, i know for a fact that i will be sobbing when i see him all dressed up in his uniform for his first day we have been teaching him how to cut up his dinner with a knife and fork so he'll be able to do it at dinner time, and they like them to be able to get their own shoes on and off...which isn't that easy at his age.

It's a beautiful day here, i'm going to make a little picnic and take the boys out in a bit.

And DS2 is going in his own room tonight!

I have put a couple of new pics on if anyone wants a nosey

Your boys are so very handsome Leesmum- u must be so proud-

The nursery i am hoping will take DS in september sounds very much like yours, its lovely when they all wear the same,

Just to fill you in i went to colloct Ds yesterday and the manager asked to see me and he informed me it was ds's last day of term, i asked why as he is funded for the term time(term ends in 18th) and he reckons we went back too early after easter- (we did not) so i told him to shove his nursery up his A*

All the other funded children finish next friday so harry will miss out on all the leaving activities etc- most of the staff were not even there to say good bye to Harry- feel really upset about it but Harry is excited about big school and not in salightest bit bothered!!!!

I don't want him to go back for another week but feel DS is being shoved out because i have complained!!!!!

anyway moan over-

Princess great to hear from you, hope all going well for you, have a good cry and some rest you deserve it xxxxx

Enjoy your picnic lees mum i think we are going to do some painting in the garden!!!

Leesmum - just make sure you have the shoes with the velcro straps. Ds2 has these and he can get his shoes on and off himself now. His teachers at nursery have also taught him how to put his coat on himself although he hasn't mastered the zip yet. Is his nursery for a full day? Ours don't stay for lunch untl proper school - ds1 wants to have a packed lunch but I'm persuading him to go for the cooked lunch! (lazy mummy again)

Sarah - I reckon Harry is well out of that nursery - that man seems to be acting like a child himself!

Sarah i agree with rozzy, is it a private or council one? i think i would have to put a complain in writing stating how unprofessional they have been, i would be livid

Rozzy yes his shoes have velcro straps on them and apart from a settling in week he is there full time, at least that will give me more one to one time with DS2

Oh Princess - don't know what to say either - just want to send all my support and good wishes to you and Ferdie xxxxx

its a private nursery- it opened up brand new 2yrs ago august, (they have own another nursery for 20 yrs) Wife qualified HV and nurse runs the other and Hubby who is not really interested runs Tinkerbells!!!!

It has always been fab- communication is bad unless u ask your not told, and i complained about a yr ago about that so we had parents eve and changes were made but the last few weeks its been dire,

i feel guilty and a bad mother as i should have moeved him last year when i had concerns but gave the benefit of doubt as Harry loves it there, if i am honest thats why i am so upset-

all my friends called me a snob as i sent him there (there is a good nursery near where we live(walking distance) that my best friend runs but dh and i thought he would benefit more at tinkerbells,how wrong!!!!!!

Oh well hes out now and looking forward to pre-school so thats somethig to look forward to - off to clean up paint now!!!omg its everywhere- DS decided to paint Rosies hands and feet red(whilst i was making a cuppa) to make footprints and hand prints for daddy which is lovly but where do i start !!!!!

they are both so cute- and i forgot to get pic of it !!!!!

its a private nursery- it opened up brand new 2yrs ago august, (they have own another nursery for 20 yrs) Wife qualified HV and nurse runs the other and Hubby who is not really interested runs Tinkerbells!!!!

It has always been fab- communication is bad unless u ask your not told, and i complained about a yr ago about that so we had parents eve and changes were made but the last few weeks its been dire,

i feel guilty and a bad mother as i should have moeved him last year when i had concerns but gave the benefit of doubt as Harry loves it there, if i am honest thats why i am so upset-

all my friends called me a snob as i sent him there (there is a good nursery near where we live(walking distance) that my best friend runs but dh and i thought he would benefit more at tinkerbells,how wrong!!!!!!

Oh well hes out now and looking forward to pre-school so thats somethig to look forward to - off to clean up paint now!!!omg its everywhere- DS decided to paint Rosies hands and feet red(whilst i was making a cuppa) to make footprints and hand prints for daddy which is lovly but where do i start !!!!!

they are both so cute- and i forgot to get pic of it !!!!!

sorry only pressed once but you may read it twice

Sarah you are not a bad mother and should not feel guilty for what you thought,at the time was the right decision. Like you said at least he has got pre-school to look forward to

Right butties made everyone been for a wee, we're leaving for a picnic, me,lee,james,pickles(giraffe) and monkey xxx

sarah how can they behave like such ba**s when they're meant to be working with kids. def. write a complaint as high up as you can and see how much you can drop him in it-if he's that bad there's bound to be other people gunning for him and your letter might just be the grand finale
must be weird feeling when your kids start school, have to admit am already feeling sad about it and we're still a year away from nursery with lo.
just to fill you all in (and self indulgently) re ds-on friday when i went back at 7 ds and dh had had an okish night although he was still tubed up and wired up. after waving dh off to work things started to go rapidly downhill. ferdie went all floppy again and just making funny whiny noise. the consultant came in and agreed with me that he was much worse. suddenly people started flooding his room again and taking more blood and they ordered an MRI and an EEG and we were still waiting for the lumbar puncture. he was so ill i started worrying that he hadn't been christened. i organised for the priest to come in to do it and the consultant said she thought it was a good thing which made me freak out even more. he didn't even cry or wriggle when they held him down to take blood, they couldn't find a vein and it took 3 attempts and about half an hour with all the alarms going off as his heart rate went so high. then we had to go miles in the hospital to get to the mri unit with him looking terrified in his cot and all the monitors going off again and we had to go in the lift with loads of random people in the hospital. the mri took really long time and i had to just stand and watch as he lay in the huge tube with all the noise going on. they had his monitors in front of the camera so that they could watch his heart rate from their room. we then had to wait for ever to get a porter to take us up to the paediatric ward and some ahole started complaining about the porter changing the direction of the lift to get us upstairs even though ferdie was obviously v ill with a tube coming out of his nose and alarms going off. i was so scared that he was going to stop breathing and we'd be miles from his ward and we only had a fairly useless nurse with us. then we had to go through it all again to get him to the eeg. he was so good it was frightening. he looked horrific with all the wires on his head. then they really upset him again by pulling the wires and tape off his head and his heart rate went crazy again. then we got back to his room and the priest christened him with two of our friends there who'd managed to make it in. f was wearing a grubby hand towel and a nappy! my mum was there too and dh and my cousin and we were all trying not to sob.
after that it was just days of waiting with dread for lumbar puncture and more searching for veins on a screaming baby and more ng tubes and alarms and pumping him full of medicine through his canula for hours at a time and being woken through the night whilst they shined torches in his eyes and pricked his heel for blood before and after every feed through the tube. thank god on saturday am he started to look better and he finally managed to feed from a bottle so no more ng tubes which he hated. they finally did an lp on monday afternoon having had the all clear on his clotting levels. guess what-it was unsuccessful because they hit a blood vessel. i insisted on being with him because me singing elvis to him was the only thing that calmed him a bit. i never want to hear are you lonesome again...we had to go through the whole lp thing againt the next day and guess what-it was also unsuccessful. they were talking about doing another the next day although the nurses kept saying they'd have to fight them to do it because they were so upset too that they kept making ferdie go through it. in the nick of time a result came through from the first lp that they were amazed by-they found a virus. so they had the diagnosis, it was viral meningitisand that meant no more treatment was needed as he was now stable. suddenly i was told we could go home that day after a few more days.no more tubes and drips and medecine.
i don't know what day or month it is really. we nearly lost him and i am so lucky for so many reasons. my gp is a god. she was so calm and so fast. i just wish that i had spotted it myself, i only went in because of his temperature that had been going for 24 hours to put my mind at rest. i'm trying not to, but i keep thinking about what would have happened if i'd decided to wait and see, or if we didn't live so close to the hospital. i hope that sometime i'll be able to forget having to hold him down for all the horrible things they did to him while he kept looking at me and screaming with fear and pain and all i could do was sing are you lonesome again again and again. i keep having nightmares that one of the kids is being stolen or dying etc etc.
would you believe that on top of it all, dh and i managed to have a row as soon as he came back from work the day we came home. he put the tv on to watch andy murray with his mother. i was so angry, he didn't seem to be listening as i was telling him about getting discharged and what tests they still needed to do. i said 'do we need to watch this? i don't like tennis and i haven't left the hospital for 7 days except to race home to put dd to bed.' his mum said'yes we do, it's andy murray'. . i just said i wasn't going to sit around watching tennis and left the room. he didn't even come and find me. he also said'we're all really tired' when i said i was tired and had only had 5 hours sleep. -what kind of illness is he suffering from that makes him tired after a week of unbroken 8 hour sleeps in a comfortable bed with no bright lights or noise or people. . i'm also angry that he made the decision to go to breakfast with henry kissenger rather than head to the PICU as soon as we woke up the day after our son was admitted to intensive care. at the time i was ridiculously calm and said if he really wanted to then he should. what on earth was he thinking of. i don't understand.
anyway, i'm sorry this is probably the longest ever mnet post but it has helped me a bit writing it. i was thinking of you guys whilst i was there and craving a computer to be able to post. thank you for being kind

Princess- you post was so frightenening- i cannot belive how much you and your family have had to go through, so glad to hear Ferdie is on the mend, and i hope you never have to deal with any of that ever again- you sound like you have coped so tremendosly(sp).

It goes to show though that you can never be too carefull when the babies are so young as like you said if you had of waited to see what happened it could have been so much worse.

How is you DD??? I hope she has been ok through it all too,

Thanks for your concern re DS's nursery- really shouldn.t be moaning about something so minor when you have had a week of pure hell,

Chin up Spk soon

Princess - you've really been through the wringer - can't even begin to imagine what it must have been like. There's no point in thinking about what might have been - you DID take him to your gp when you were worried about his temp and thank god you did. Taking him to the gp was the best you could do - you're not a doctor.

Leesmum - I'm envious of your full day nursery place. We only get 2.5 hour days here until primary one so next year we'll have to take ds1 to school, then ds2 to nursery. Pick ds2 up at lunchtime, then go back out in the afternoon to get ds1.

Sarah - ds1 painted ds2's hands yellow when he was a baby. I'd just gone out to get a basin of water to clean his hands and he thought Christopher might like to make hand prints too. He'd just had his 2nd birthday at the time so was still just a baby himself really.

Dh is building up a kiddies gazebo in the garden with ds1 and ds2 at the mo. It was reduced to £7.50 in tesco and has uv protection so I thought it's be good for the summer to keep ds3 under. I was going to dig out the sandpit as we got some new stuff to put in this morning but there is an absolutely massive spider in there so am not going near.

Only really read princess's posts as was desperate to see news of Ferdie. Was crying as the word dead jumped out at me but then I saw it said "not dead" thank god. Am so so sorry you went through this, it must have been horrific, and thank god Ferdie is ok and will make a full recovery. Try not to torture yourself with the "what ifs...". You did make the right decision and he is ok.

Think I need a strong drink now just imagining the horror you went through. Hope your DH and MIL sort out their priorities. I know we all say we row with our OHs when we are tired but this is a whole different thing. His mum's ridiculous "but it's Andy Murray" comment was just shocking. Even if it had been the last minute of the Wimbledon final with Andy Murray about to win surely her grandson is more important???????

Anyway, am for you, but just so relieved he is ok.

Oh princess, what an absoloute nightmare. Is Ferdie completely better now?
When he is a teenager you can tell him stories about him being very sick as a baby, and how the only thing that comforted him was you singing Elvis to him. He might say, 'aw mum, I never liked that old music'. You will give him a hug and be glad again that you did take him to the doctors and that your GP was so good.

God, I think we will all be having nightmares just reading your post never mind actually living it. I think it will take you a while to return to some kind of normality. Do you think your DH could be dealing with the stress of the whole thing differently to you? Could he have been in denial? People do sometimes behave quite strangely when loved ones are ill. I don't know though, I can't quite get my head around watching tennis after all that.

Anyway, I'm so glad your boy is OK, I've only rejoined this thread recently but I've been checking for your news.

Princess - have to rush, so just a quickie, but I wanted to say how glad I am to hear that Ferdie is doing so much better now; we were all so worried. We have been thinking of you. You have been so strong; sorry you have not had more support at home. Please let us know if you need anything. It's good to hear from you. xx

Princess thats so awful, glad you've turned a corner, not standing up for dh but could it be his way of coping? or is he just an insensitive git?

AM at work going home in a mo. DH has had ds son today, took him swimming and to toys r us (obviously no time for housework!). Dd2 has 'rescued' a chinchilla so i'm hoping that dh is not too angry when i get in (i said she couldn't have it, and she got it anyway!). I managed to rehome the dog and cat she acquired but probably wont be able to do same this time. we have a blardy zoo already! Perhaps i'll saty here!

Have good weekend all.

christ princess, that is so bloody unspeakably awful. i am joining egg in her post-post read drink. nothing less than forty percent proof to warm the blood-turned-cold.

here's to a lifetime of ferdie's good health and happiness - before you know it, he'll be giving you grandkids and keeping you in the luxurious retirement you so deserve.

sending lots of love to you and your gorgeous dcs. i know you were in all our thoughts every day

(and henry kissenger is the most bizarre aside to a post ever. i really hope there were less than half a dozen other people at that dinner)

xxx

Oh bugger, DS has just got over chickenpox and now DD has it. DS wasn't sick at all, and DD just has a bit of a temperature and is slightly grumpy, so it's fine really. We're just all going stir crazy staying in the house. Supposed to be going on holiday on Sunday. Ah well, at least it'll be a different house to feel cooped up in.

Princess - so sorry that Ferdie had to go through all that and what hell for you as a mother. I'm glad he's okay. When I think of my boy upstairs and imagine that happening to him... I'm so sorry . I'll join you all in that drink. Sounds like your dh hasn't quite understood what you've been through x

ps Leesmum - your boys are gorgeous

Right, where's that stiffener?

Oh Princess How awful. Was trying not to cry while reading it. Big cuddles to you and your little boy and thank god he came through. You and DP have both been through a terrible trauma and people deal with things differently and it's not surprising that it causes conflict in a situation like this when you've been through the mill. Doesn't sound like the MIL is helping much, silly woman.

Am off to google Henry Kissinger

OMG Princess you have been through so much. Reading your post gave me goosebumps, what a terrible terrible experience you have had. And of course as the mother it is a hundred times worse for you than for anyone else, including your DH. I'm not surprised you had a row after you came home, there must have been so much tension in the air - like just before a big thunderstorm when you know it is going to rain and it is almost a relief when it does.

You must be kind to yourself now, make sure you get enough rest (so make sure your DH pulls his weight around the house!) and give little Ferdie all the cuddles you possibly can. You should be very proud of yourself for keeping it together all that time and being there for him when he needed you. Make sure you have someone to talk things though with in real life over the next few weeks xxx

Oh Princess love i can't even begin to imagine what you and your family have been through in the past week, and here was me thinking i'd had it bad with DS2 up all night teething, i don't know how lucky i am

The thought of you singing "are you lonesome tonight" to poor ferdie made me want to cry.

I hope that writing this down has helped somehow, take care xxx