FEB 08- Sore nips and no naps continued!!!!

[sarahmikeharryandrosie]

Hi Ladies thought i wouls open the thread but i have no imagination- hence the title!!!!

egg- the link was fab- You, Jacob and Rececca are gorge!!!

Its a pity Ben wasn't included though xxx

Hope everyone is ok,

I so wish my Ben was in it, but he would never have sat still and they would have had to pan out to the garden where he would have been busy digging mud and hurling at next door's fence!

Thank you all for your kind comment though .

Great link egg! Like you say it's a pity ds1 wasn't in it as I'm sure things would have been far easier (though still not easy!) if you hadn't had a 2 year old as well as the twins. Your dd is filling out nicely.

Decided to go for a run tonight rather than go on my treadmill. DH recommended a route which he said was 'no more than 3 miles' so off I went. 50 minutes later got home to a heated discussion with dh (3 miles my ar**) so he plotted the route on autoroute and it was just over 5 miles - needless to say I won't be taking his advice on running routes again!

Cosima - dh only does 2 night shifts a week which I actually prefer as he's then at home with us during the day. He did actually have a pretty bad accident at work 3 years ago and was off work for almost a year. When he first went back after that I was a nervous wreck but I try not to worry too much - it's only when he's late home that I start to panic a little.

Off to watch queen of shops!

Finally back online after a very stressful move, everything got sorted out at the last minute! The new house is great and I now have a social life, DD1 is having a great time going out to playgroups almost everyday.
Sadly we all have a weird cold at the moment so DD2 woke every hour last night and I am slightly tired. I'm also worried I may have thrush or something, at least I can get to the docs now!
I hope everyone is okay, any signs of teething yet?

In laws have always been like it, probably worse now. SIL wont speak to them at all and doesn't sen mothers/fathers day cards etc. We think she has moved but she wont confirm either way - she did live in Bath and then sent a text saying she had a new landline code 01245 which we think is chlemsford. Dh ahs asked her if she's moved by text and left a meassage on answer phone. She even said once that we musn't tell parents if she comes to see us! Weird family set up!

Lucy - GOOD LUCK in your new house

Have to go ds crying!

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Gosh the thread is moving sloooooow today.

Ginger glad it is not to do with you, although still very bizarre and strange, but at least not personal.

We went into nursery earlier as it was their class photo today and although I didn't think we would make it (none of them go to nursery on a Tuesday) it worked out ok and was nice that DS1 was in the pic. DTs were in their group pic too! DS1 even shouted "cheeeeese" loudly when instructed (way louder than the others ). Hope the pic is nice. I met a 2 week old baby who weighs only about 1lb less than DD. He did look smaller and very newborn though, and she looks all grown up now (wish she would act it ).

Ok so I have a question for those of you with a toddler (or more) and baby. I am struggling to get solids into the babies at lunchtimes because the only time of day I can get out and take DS1 to the swings etc is about 11am, when DTs have had their milk. We often take a sandwich and DS1 has lunch at the swings, but I cannot cope with trying to feed two babies slop in their pushchair as well as watch DS1, who never stays still. So by the time we get home it is usually too late for their solids as it often past 1pm and they are due their next milk feed about 2pm, either that or they are asleep. So they are only getting one meal a day apart from Mondays at nursery. Will start doing breakfast but are you others just feeding your baby when you are out? I can't not leave the house each day or DS1 and I go mad and start annoying each other.

hi egg hows the feeding going? What do you mean you only feed them when you're out? Is that the best way? i just discovered ds is allergic to formula after vomiting and upright co sleeping for the past three nights!

Ah no, I don't like to feed them when I am out. Can just about cope if only one needs feeding but do not want to have to feed both (milk or solids). THe only time I can get out of house is about 11am and that would be around the time I would be feeding them solids for lunch (well a bit later but I am never back in time).

Does that make sense????

Ugh to formula allergy. Will have have to have a soy one or a goats milk one or something? DS2 projectiled his entire morning feed today, 2 hours after he had it as well which meant it smelt far worse than if it was straight away. It's because I just could NOT get him to burp afterwards and he went back to bed without burping. Next time I will try for an hour for the burp rather than have a vomit to deal with first thing.

Hi egg- wanted to respond to you re fedding- Rosie i shaving breakfast and the has solids with milk feed at 3pm- i find it works better thaat way- not sure how i will work it when she needs to have breakfast lunch and dinner though,

At the mo she has milk and breakfast cereal or pureed fruit at 7am, milk at 11 am, milk and pureed veg at 3pm, milk at 7pm and bed- dream feed at 10- (me bed !!!lol)

I manage to feed Rosie whilst we are out as Harry is a little older and understands a bit more, generally i give him food/icecream so he is near us but it must be so hard with three-

Sorry not much help am i????

Egg- if it's any help i give ds boobage at about 11am and then lunch at 1 (ish) then boobage again mid afternoon, i find the late morning feed tides him over for a slightly later lunch - doesnt always work tho!

On PIL there are so many stories i could tell but i dont have hours, days, weeks er... years to spare!

A good one would be... a few years ago dh had a bit of a midlife crisis (long story) and walked 8 miles to their house, told his parents he didn't know what to do, his dad wouldn't even let him in the house and said go home to your family and his mother said don't lose the money in the house (meaning his share!- he had moved into a friend's spare room at the time). Soooo supportive!

Another... when dh lived at home his mum would work christmas eve night and dh would have to prepare all of christmas dinner for family including brother and sister, dad and granny (cos he was the eldest), his dad wouldnt lift a finger (not his job apparently), still doesnt do anything round the house even though he is retired and MIL still works. He has a pension but told MIL he wanted 'pocket' money from her 'cos she's earning and he's not! he's such an Arse!

I could go on and on....

On Midlife crisis - Typically his dad didnt want to know and MIL only concerned with money (even though most of equity at time was from sale of my house that i had on my own!). Neither were concerned with dhs welfare or emotional state and neither gave a stuff about me - he was at friends for months and they never called me once to see how i was. Still, could be worse i suppose!

hello all! just scanning, hope everyone's well and looking forward to catching up proper tomo. but this made me laugh - at a cafe today, a customer called over a memeber of staff to ask whether the hot chocolate had milk in it ??!!!! bonkers.

Nappy update - Tot Bots size 1 nappies DO still fit LO........ seems I was putting them on her wrong!? must have been having a one of your "Mumpty" moments Tyaca!!

So I now have loads of cloth nappies I can use and I have to say all is going well with them. I spent today out and about in London with 2 of my sisters, 3 of my Nieces and my Aunt and Uncle who is visiting from the states. We managed lunch in Wagamama and afternoon drinks in a nearby pub with several nappy changes no problem!! I even managed not to absent mindedly throw any reuseable nappies away in the nappy bins!!

Cosima - I agree that Size 2 Fluffles are a bit bulky and to start with LO did seem a bit restricted by them - but it has only been a week and she seems to be getting used to them already!

Egg - Brilliant link to your TV debut! Rebecca & Jacob are Soooo cute!

Gingermumi - odd PIL to say the least!!

Lucyand2 - Glad your move went okay. hope your colds all clear up quickly. LO has been snuffling a lot at night so I have cranked the head end of her crib up to try and help her breathing a bit. We got some dentionox teething gel today coz LO keeps pulling at her gums and crying hard. She has been dribbling for Britain for the past few weeks! - I'm hoping a tooth appears soon.

ah - sod waiting til tomo! lucy, glad you've moved and hope you're enjoying your new place. i did smile at your comment re ds waking every hour making you slightly tired hope you've had a better couple of nights.

rozzy - wd on your run outside. my gym membership expires in a week and so will have to force myself out onto the open road . i'm not scared of the running itself, or indeed the making a fool of myself in my saggy legging's and dh's old t-shirts. what i like about the treadmill is the data, the knowing you've run xkm at xpace. have been eyeing up gps running watches on ebay. whatever the problem, a bit of spending seems to fix it! are you going to go out running again? everyone says that once's you've swapped, you rarely go back to the treadmill - i hope so cause its cheaper.

egg - i am pitifully useless at answering your feeding question. take it a macdonalds trip still out of the question for ooooo... two months? who's is your dd sleeping at the moment? looking forward to a possible hampshire meet up... tho' slightly less now that i've had two trips out with dd in three days which have seen her go doolally . took your advice about teat size and gaviscon and bought some number 3 ones. dd just about coping with the quicker flow, but the first couple of feeds put me in mind of that episode of friends where Joey reckons he can drink a gallon of milk in a minute.

cosima - god, even a 50's style once a week sounds a bit much to me. we are scoring shamefully low on the shuftyometer at the moment. only chance is when dd asleep. in our room. and i've rarely felt less able to get it on on sofa... tmi tmi i know!! sorry to hear about the formula. my SIL uses a goats mile formula called nanny's i think. princessllama best person to talk to about this. hope all gets sorted.

ginger your pil stories are making me smile. how come i've never seen you start a AIBU thread? keep 'em coming. how's work going? i just semi-committed to work in august and am now hoping it doesnt come thru.

bovril - courtesy of the lovely bessie i am now the proud owner of five size 1 totbots and they swamp dd! but my goodness, how cute does a baby swamped in a nappy look?

I didn't think you were going back to work tyaca - Have you had a change of heart or have I just got you confused with someone else? I'll probably go out running now and again but am a fair weather runner - won't go out in really bad weather and don't like going out in the dark so winter will be out (as evenings only time I get the chance to exercise). Also when dh is on night shifts I obviously can't go out so need to use the treadmill then too.

Egg - You'll figure out the solids thing - just takes a little trial and error to see what fits in well with your routine. I agree I wouldn't be trying to feed them whilst out - far too stressful/messy! My aim long run is to get ds3 eating meals at the same time as the rest of us but that's a long way off considering he's not even on solids yet!

I'm really struggling getting out of bed in the mornings at the moment - I'm usually really good in the mornings so its a real pita. Dh thinks I should give ds3 some solids so I can get more sleep but I don't think that's a good enough reason to wean him - he's not feeding anymore frequently than usual so I don't think he's ready just yet.

Got ds1 school visit this afternoon - he's very excited about seeing his classroom!

no, really dont want to go back to work. but have to pay my dues for gambling debt and so have to put this in the hands of fate. if we can get childcare we're both happy with (may be possible nannyshare with another new mum who teaches at my husbands school) then cant really say no to a p/t contract. i am such a dumbass. if i'd never ever played internet poker then my life would be so different now. i guess that i should just be grateful that dh so good to me about it all and that the combo of moving into school and poss p/t work (luxury in itself) means we're not really buggered. right, enough of the confessional - guess who watched jerry springer at 5am?? have a nice day all

tyaca - i don't actually DO it once a week! I just let him sleep in the big bed once a week, he might get to put his paws on me if he's lucky as long as it doesn't wake me up. He still brings me a cuppa every morning at half five though.

Oh egg sounds like a nightmare, they need to learn about packed lunches asap these babies.

bovril - what is the weight range for the size 2 fluffles? and do those liners work well with bf runny poo?

i've been hearing that giving solids doesn't necessarily mean more sleep at night. Tell me its not true!! Rozzy - go on try it (btw rozzy, there was a thread about what you think of peoples mn names - I meant to tell you, your nickname was my nickname at school so it always seems a bit odd to me reading it!)

ginger - your pil sound hellish, mine are pitas too, soooo irritating!!! its a bloody nuisance isn't it

ty - I'd like to say that the sleeping has improved but sadly dd2 has a cold and her jabs haven't agreed with her either.

Bovril - I love my fluffles, the size 2 ones are quite big but I love the giant fluffy bum effect.

Thankyou for all the good luck about moving, it went fine in the end and we're all really happy in our new house. I feel like I've joined the human race again as I'm able to go out and I've even made friends. It is just so nice

Friends already Lucy . That was quick work!

Sorry DD2 has a cold. Me and the DTs always get one at the same time, so it's me feeling shite and having to deal with them being more miserable than normal! Obviously when DS2 gets it he has manflu!

Was going to post more but the telltale smell of babypoo has just reached my nose...

pt work is a good compromise Tyaca. I always say I'd like not to work but in reality I think I might go a bit mad if I didn't!

Cosima - I think you're right that solids might not mean any more sleep unfortunately. If it's just hunger thats waking them up it will but not if it's comfort/teething etc. Lo is only 19 weeks so I'm going to resist for a bit longer. My other 2 were sleeping through by now though and lets just say the novelty of night time feeds has well and truly worn off!

Yep, the novelty has worn off for me too. The silly thing is, I think to myself, if I only had one baby and I had to keep getting up in the night it would be ok, but when I only had DS1 it was still not ok, I still never caught up with sleep in the day and it was still bloody hard work. Looking back now I think how can it have been that hard but yet I know it is just as hard somehow.

DD had a big lunch of solids before passing out for 2.5hrs earlier (she rarely sleeps that long in the day), so am hoping it will start to work it's magic soon at night. She did sleep til nearly 5am last night (having had 10pm feed), but she was doing that at 3 months old and then went backwards. I think it's the going backwards thing that makes it worse. Anyway, they are now 24 weeks old I think so I figure something's got to give soon [hopeful emoticon]. Am giving DD til 6 months, which means another 2 weeks of getting used to solids, and then she is going to get water if she wakes up in the middle of the night (say before 5am...),and she can sleep in the loft so she doesn't bother the DSs!

Got DS weighed again today and he has put on a massive 9oz after not gaining anything for 5 weeks. Thanks for all the advice on the bf.

The the idea of using the loft as a bedroom egg I might put DH up there so I can't hear his snoring. Your video link was really good, twins are v cute and I love your hair I can never get my curls to look like that.

Lucy I hope things go well for you in your new home and as you're making friends already you're onto a winner

Ginger your PIL sound well weird!

Lots of fluffles talk. I love mine, DS is in size1 in the day and size2 at night as they are so bulky. Which liners did you mean Cosima? I have found most of them work OK and my DS is bf. Oh and BTW I know what you mean about DH not waking you

Tyaca - loved the friends analogy

How did the school visit go rozzy, did he like it?

Hi Alkar - yes ds1 did like school - he was in his classroom with his class mates for an hour whilst we had an induction meeting in the hall. His little face looked so chuffed and proud as we were walking in. I think he should be fine - he's always been quite a sensitive boy and is a little shy (unlike ds2 who will talk to anyone!).

Egg I plan on doing the water in the night thing too if ds3 doesn't get his act together once he's on solids!! And he will soon be going in his own room too if he keeps waking up around 5.40am cooing and shouting (nothing is cute at that time of the morning!). It would be easier this time round if you only had one baby - it's much harder with your first baby I think. Saying that though ds3 has been pretty high maintenance - far more so than the first 2 - if he's been my first I may not have had 3