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RiaisMaLarkin · 04/04/2008 14:17

NEW THREAD!

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justbeme · 17/04/2008 21:34

Hello everyone!

You've all been very chatty and as usual I cant remember it all!
Hope
Norty gets her Op sorted soon.
that,
Holly gets some sleep
that,
Daisy doesnt beat herself up too much - we've all been there and you're feeling fragile at the moment..
that Lilkel stays and gets DS sorted.

Hi Annobal , Natty and SG (sorry cant remember your new name!)
phew!

foxythesnowfox · 17/04/2008 21:36

'lo.

Oh Daisy and Holly {{{hugs}}} to you guys.

Seems its time to crack the sleep all round, huh?

LO decided she wasn't going to sleep. Uh-uh. No way. Did a fair amount of yelling/screaming inbetween cuddles (her, not me). Thing is, I've got no idea what to do really. I'm the one who encouraged co-sleeping and feeding to sleep, so now I feel unkind just leaving her.

Anyway, tonight I did a fair amount of cuddling, lying with her, a bit of bf. I'm going to try to do it slowly. At least until by guilt eases.

foxythesnowfox · 17/04/2008 21:38

Hello JBM, crossed posts

Nice to 'see' you!

And Seansgirl (as was). Lovely to 'see' you again too!

foxythesnowfox · 17/04/2008 21:46

Daisy This thread might be interesting to you vba2c

JammyQueenOfTheSewers · 17/04/2008 21:47

Well, I'm done with work for the week, and I'm almost done with packing to go to my parents for the weekend. Got a list of stuff to pack in the morning, and even though it's just the little last minute things it's huge. DH is going for a "boys' poker weekend" with friends so me & the jamlet are going to see my folks, who live in the same direction roughly. We're taking them a computer (so that hopefully they'll get online this weekend) and what with that and all the usual baby crap paraphenalia we seem to have a mountain of stuff. Am seriously considering not taking the P&T (haven't got round to getting a nice little stroller yet), but then I wonder will I go insane if we can't go out for a walk?

Sorry people are having a hard time with bedtimes. I seriously don't know what I'll do if she starts playing up about going to bed - she's always gone down without any trouble thankfully.

Riallyclean · 17/04/2008 21:52

for some reason DH just dropped his wine glss in the manner of someone throwing it across the room (apparently he lost all feelingin his hand and it just went) and DS has hidden the sustpan and brush in the garden. Luckily it was only a cheapy tesco one. and the DCs are all in bed. He will have to hoover in the morning.

Does the jamlet go in a sling for walks? How is your Dad now jammy? My parents put me to shame with their superior IT knowledge.

foxythesnowfox · 17/04/2008 22:01

Oh no Ria! What's that all about? Doesn't sound good.

Riallyclean · 17/04/2008 22:06

I think it's probably all linked to whatever is still wrong with his shoulder (trapped nerve maybe?), he has been told to up his painkkillers and start on his trmamdol again, so it could be that too.
He has hoovered for now and will do it again in the morning before the dcs are allowed in the living room. Bless him. I am a bit obsessive after a broken glass incident. I really think we will invest in some nice plastic glasses, cos I am clumsy too. It will cut down on my stress.

I forgot yesterday, I'm glad DD enjoyed ballet. I will miss that with my boys (i was going to make DS1 go to irritate MIL, but he wouldn't have it, he doesn't like horses either, but I wouldn't be able to do the hair). Maybe I will get GDs?

Riallyclean · 17/04/2008 22:12

Do youleave tomorrow jammy? Have a good time if I miss you.

I'm off for the night - busy day tomorrow. Rx

JammyQueenOfTheSewers · 17/04/2008 22:15

No, we never got on with a sling Ria.

My Dad's still no wiser as to what's wrong. He's seen the GP, had loads of tests, been been to the hospital, and had loads of ECGs and they can't find anything wrong. but when he exerts himself a bit, he goes dizzy, his heart races and he doesn't feel at all well. He is having a heart scan next month and they are going to set him up with 24 hour ECG monitoring, so hopefully that will show up what's wrong? In the meantime he is thinking it's a virus as he is feeling a little better than a few weeks ago. Who knows, it could be I guess. Just hope he gets better soon whatever it is.

JammyQueenOfTheSewers · 17/04/2008 22:16

Yeah, we're off in the morning. I'm off to bed too now. If we get my parents online on Saturday you might "see" me briefly over the weekend. If not, have fun everybody

motherhurdicure · 17/04/2008 22:33

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BumperliciousNeedsToSleep · 18/04/2008 08:28

Morning all,
SG great to have you back! Don't be a stranger! Awww, with lilkel and SG coming back it's like old times, anyone heard from Derlor of Doggus ever?

Daisy and Holly, you better have room for me in your new child free pad! Yesterday was a hideous day. DD only slept for 20 mins in the morning so was rotten all day. I went to see some friends for lunch and they were lovely but I seriously just considered leaving DD on the doorstep and running away. And once again this morning she won't go back to sleep despite me bf her almost solid for and hour and a half and her appearing to have fallen asleep on my bed, so I commenced the 2 disengagement. Stage 1: remove boob and insert dummy, Stage 2: ensure target is still asleep and slowly peel my body away from hers, and the minute I sat up on the bed she started screaming, which she is still doing and I am beyond caring now. The thing is last week when I left her to sleep in my bed in the morning she did so for 2 hours! So I am determined for her to do it again.

BumperliciousNeedsToSleep · 18/04/2008 08:34

Jammy last time we went to my mum's we had to buy a stroller as we couldn't fit the Quinny in with all out stuff!

Urggh, I have a stinking cold to add to my grouchiness!

BumperliciousNeedsToSleep · 18/04/2008 12:05

Did I kill the thread with my whinging?

Sputnik · 18/04/2008 12:50

yup

foxythesnowfox · 18/04/2008 12:59

Lol Sputnik!

Bumper, you have two choices, either go with what she wants and have a quiet life and happy baby, or spend a couple of days in hell doing CC. Like Fury said, you will reap the rewards but its hideous cracking it.

And I know how it turns the non-sleeping situation round first hand. I just can't bear to do it this time round.

Tonight is the second stage of the process in our house. I feel too guilty for carrying her around and co-sleeping for 9 months, so can't suddenly put her in a darkened room on her own and leave her to it. Its a slow-process.

foxythesnowfox · 18/04/2008 14:20

oh where is everyone?

Anyone?

Allllll byyyy myyyyyyselfffff,

donwannabeeee

alllllbyyyyymyyyyyyseeeeelllllffffffanymore

kaniluja · 18/04/2008 14:30

Hi Foxy, am here, but literally just going as on schrool run for dd.

CC has started in SG house too as ds spending half night co sleeping too............ must dash xxx

foxythesnowfox · 18/04/2008 15:43

When you get back SG tell ne how you are doing it. LO still ended up in bed with me. but am concentrating on getting her to go down in her bed at a decent hour.

HollyPutTheKettleOn · 18/04/2008 16:31

Hello foxy, I'm here!

I can't do CC, it's too much for a littley and I can't bear it. We did it with dd when she was 18 months, but she knew what was what and understood that she needed to go to bed and sleep. It took two nights, but it worked. Now she is a great sleeper. I wouldn't personally do it with a child that doesn't understand why they're being left to cry. It's too traumatic. Or am I just a wimp?

Just went into town and bought dd a birthday present. I tried to do it on the sly, but as soon as we got home she asked to play with her fairy house! Now she is really sad because I said no. I am a bad mum.

DKMA · 18/04/2008 19:22

Evening

kaniluja · 18/04/2008 19:46

Holly you are no way a wimp, I completely understand I didn't do it with dd because it was so awful, but ds is a completely different baby and i know that if i don't do it i'll regret it in the end. I think you have to do whats right for you and your baby. The other reason for me is that is affecting mine and dhs relationship alot which is not good for the kids if we are rowing all the time like we are. We are both so bloody tired and neither of us sleep properly when ds is in the middle of the bed.

I am no expert at this Foxy, have not done it before but have read it in that book, and several others before. Ds never co slept until he was unwell in december, before that he was sleeping through most nights and if he was waking he was very easy to settle or setted him self. We started bringing him in with us as I was so worried about his breathing when he had a chest infection, so it has sort of continued from there on as he has been ill virtualy every few weeks. He has had broncillitus twice ,(sp?) croup, chest infection, thorat infection, some weird sickness high temp virus that dd had, colds, etc.. Normally what happens is that he goes to bed no problem - usually falling asleep straight after his last bottle at 6.30-7.00 and he goes into his cot then, but then he wakes some time in the early hours 1-3 usually. This is when we would give in and bring him to us, saying when he falls asleep we'll move him, it never happens as we wake hours later, try and move him and then he wakes up soon as we put him in his cot and we're off again. So we have just started to take one night on one night off in settling him (probaly some expert would say it should be the same person all the time?) anyway couldn't cope with that. So when he wakes we have picked him up, rocked him a bit (standing in nursery)and then put him down as he gets drowsy, walking out waiting for cries, which tbh are real frustrated temper tantrum cries. Then go back after 1 min, do the same, extend to 2 minutes, 5 minutes...etc to max 15 minutes and then plateau until he actually sleeps. It is very traumatic, but I feel it is a battle of wills really he wants his own way.....as I said he is different to dd and when he is awake he has been 'stroppy' from day one when he wants his own way, it might sound a bit harsh and that can a ten month old be that aware ? I don't know. and I don't know if i'll succeed. I just have this fear that if I don't try dh and I will continue rowing and end up hating each other, ds will be in our bed still at 2,3,4,5,....18 that he will get used to bawling when he wants his own way? But I am hating it every step of the way. Please no one shout at me and tell me i'm cruel as I feel awful......

On the dairy front, have dramatically cut ds milk down to two 8oz bottles a day first thing and last thing, this was as he not eating properly also as reflux baby seemed more sensible to cut it down as it gave him gut ache even with gaviscon. He still has splashes of milk in various meals, and in breakfast unless he has scrambled egg and beans. Have found he is really sick if he has yoghurt or fromage frais, so never give him any at all, but give him milky puds like semolina, rice pud, ice cream, custard...... he also loves jelly....... Night night am going to bed early. Have a good sleep all xx

BumperliciousNeedsToSleep · 18/04/2008 19:46

Evening all,

Well we've done the leaving her to cry but keep going back in and stroking her, don't know if that is CC. She cried for about 45 minutes, but the next time she woke up she stopped as soon as I walked in the room. Anyway that was a week or two ago, but her sleeping has been sporadic since. We've stopped picking her up at night, and she mostly settles but every now and then, like the other night, she refuses to settle.

Foxy and SG hope it works for you. DD slept through last night (DH and I went to bed at 9.30 we were both so knackered!) we'll see what tonight brings. She is very unpredictable atm. She went down to awake tonight, which is unusual for her. She cried a bit, then went off.

Hope you have all had good days anyway. Mine got better. Met another mum for a cup of tea, one I haven't met up with before, it was nice.

kaniluja · 18/04/2008 19:48

OOOPs! sorry for massive post, just got carried away..... Hi DKMA! xxx but am going to stuff my face and sleep