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sophus · 31/03/2008 20:58

thought i'd start us off

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Hopeysgirlwasntbig · 05/07/2008 21:18

LLL old tatters are self inflicted, DH in lounge, and I'm in (kitchen)diner, so no excuse, got oven just behind me! Right, PROMISE promise promise am off now to cook steak!!

says to self////..... don't click active convos, don't click . . .

Lollypopzmummy · 05/07/2008 21:21

LLL: That took a while, now you get to expierience the joys the rest of us are going through to hear you're shoulder's not in good shape, hope it gets better soon.

Mica23 Welcome!

Hopey Ooh 21 day matured steak. . . that sounds lovely, hope you enjoy it!
Which reminds me, I recently had another go at eating beef and regretted it immensely. . . (for those not in the know, I was diagnosed with Bovine Intolerance when I was 19, making it quite hard to find foods that aren't vegetarian that I can eat, it's amazing what they add to chicken and pork sausages, so took up being veggie for a good few years until pregnant with Lolly, darn cravings!). . . . I'm now thinking of going back to being vegetarian again, it's so much easier for me to avoid that sneaky beef!

I've had an absolutely crap day today Woke up at 7:30am, gave Lolly her milk and decided not to go back to bed, unfortunately DD1 heard me get up and I managed to convince her to go and bug DH to get up (thinking he'd do what he usually does and convince her to jump into bed with him, to stop her pestering) to my astonishment he got up!! . That's when it all stated. . . we were meant to be going to the wedding reception of one of my oldest friends (and he knows her very well too) and she had mentioned that she'd really like me to wear my ball outfit. . . Dh had convinced me that I was being mean and blatantly trying to out-do the bride ( Ok so it wasn't her idea then?! blardy men don't listen do they?!) so I decided on a long dark orange dress, he then started throwing other "ideas" at me, I took this as he didn't want me to wear the dress and that he was trying to change my mind, so ended up feeling really crappy about it all and let him decide what I should wear (brown skirt, that's still a bit too small for me and rides up a bit, and a black top with a lace top over).

He then had to pop out to get the vouchers for bride and groom's present, and popped into NEXT (ok for a little hint go take a look at my profile pics, I have never even walked into Next and would never buy anything from there as it's just not my type of clothing, not to mention our dire monetary problems at the moment, he had only last night been having a pop at me cos he's having to pay for my loan etc) and he comes home with a top and pair of trousers that cost £57 in total (the top was £22, it was a little camisole with a tie top over it, made from flimsy jersey fabric that probably cost about £1 to make, and £35 trousers which were really nice but they were too smart to be something that I'd ever wear again!).
I said thank you etc and tried them on (in the hope of keeping the label on and he would then be able to take them back after today, I know but he was so proud that he'd found these "nice" clothes for me. . . ) needless to say the trousers were too tight so he knew he'd have to take them back and see if they had the next size up (Umm do Next go up to a size 20?) I gave it a minute or two and started the convo. . . "I think you should take them back and leave it, I'll wear what you picked out for me earlier." he blew up and had a right go at me "I'm just trying to treat you" blah blah blah, I didn't get to say what I wanted to say, as usual, and he storms out, taking the clothes back.

He came back about half an hour later, someone had gone into the back of his car!! So, he'd had time to calm down from our little spat but now this!!! (Lucky he took those clothes back really otherwise he would be in even more money troubles now!)

Needless to say, after being made to feel like the clothes I wear aren't good enough for him and I'm obviously an embarrassment to him I couldn't even try and put my side of things across to him because he'd been in a car accident and now had all this hassle of having to sort out the car.
I had a nap this afternoon but I've still got a stinking headache from all the crying and am still feeling inadeqaute in the clothing department (I did however manage to get across that I'm not particularly fond of the clothes that he wears but I've never tried to change him and the clothes he wears have I?!).

I've tried to brush the whole thing off, and managed to convince him that it wasn't the clothes that I disliked it was more the fact that he'd had a go at me last night about my need for him to pay off my loan etc and then he goes out (after choosing an outfit out of the wardrobe for me) and spends nearly £60 on a top and a pair of trousers. . . I could make about 10 dresses for that price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What makes it worse is that he hates Next, for a different reason. His most dispised ex girlfriend used to spend all of his money in there (and I mean all of it!!!) and every time "she" pops up in conversation, or the word "Next", in ref to the shop, he physically hisses!!! And yet he walks in there and spends £57 on an outfit that I'm only going to wear once. . . where's his reasoning?!

I give up, every time something like this happens I just think "It's ok, I'm moving out soon" but I'm still going to be married to him aren't I?
Ok I've moaned enough now, I'm meant to be doing the Tesco shopping, just thought I'd rant at you lot instead, let's face it, if he see's that I'm not on the Tesco website it's not like he could make me feel any worse!!

Someone tell me there are real men out there that don't want to change their woman? I need to believe it's true!
xXx

Hopeysgirlwasntbig · 05/07/2008 21:27

There are real men out there that don't want to change their woman. Poor you though, he sounds like he's being a git. Big hugs to you, hope you have a better day tomorrow. x x

LisaLessLumpy · 05/07/2008 21:36

Snap what Hopey said.

Men can be so annoying sometimes

PurpleLostPrincess · 06/07/2008 00:26

A big big welcome mica and so pleased that you posted!!! Your little Fay sounds lovely and I'm sure we'll all enjoy getting to know you more. I'll introduce myself and hope that the others will come along and do the same (if they haven't already as I started typing this earlier):

Nickname: PLP
Kids: DS (14), DD1 (9) and Cerys who is now 10 months.
I'm married and my DH suffers from a medley of mental illnesses due to events from his past but he's my childhood sweetheart and we're still madly in love after 6 years of marriage. My older two are from my previous marriage but I'm still best friends with xh's sister and family etc.
Ummm, Cerys had a few problems at the start of life but is all fixed now (she same three weeks early, had an 'imperforate anus' at birth and had to have a colostomy at 3 days old, then heart surgery at 9 weeks old, then her reconstruction at 14 weeks and finally her colostomy reversal at nearly six months). She's a really happy baby and is doing really well now apart from having the bug that we've all suffered from this week and she's off her food due to teething.

I don't know about the others but I'm split between being a bit chuffed that you see us as really tight as I really do consider these ladies as my friends; or being slightly embarassed/ashamed that we might come across to be too tight for anybody else to join us. I'm so pleased that you ended up posting as it hopefully means that we're not clicky and that we truly welcome new posters. I for one (and I'm sure I'm not alone here) love to see new posters and welcome you with a big big hug! I'd hate to think anybody thought otherwise. Sorry, I've gone all mushy now, I'll shut up lol! Oh, as you may have noticed, I have sudden gushes of waffling ...

Anyways, I'd best be getting to bed.

Night all! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

PurpleLostPrincess · 06/07/2008 00:33

Oh Lolly, just wanted to give you a big hug and say I hope the reception goes well and that you have a better day tomorrow ((((((((hugs))))))))xxxxx

LisaLessLumpy · 06/07/2008 09:16

Hi mica, nice to see you. I am a bit of an interloper on here as Ben was due on the 30th Sept, but arrived 5th october via c-section due to a very late discovered breech position. I divided my time between here and the Oct thread and feel extremely welcome in both

I have two boys, one who is just three and Ben who was 9 months old yesterday. He got his first tooth on friday, without too much trouble fortunately He wants to walk or stand up all the time but can't do it on his own. I know baby walkers are frowned upon but he loves his, he will be crying and all upset whilst sitting on the floor but as soon as you put him in the walker his face lights up with the hugest grin. Who am I to stop him. I was talking to my physio about it the other day and he doesn't see any problem with walkers, so that's good enough for me

I have many pics in my profile if you are interested

Lollypopzmummy · 06/07/2008 14:59

It's easier just to go and read my profile Mica
xXx

sophus · 06/07/2008 21:51

hi all
bonkers weekend here - carnival yesterday, Linus wasn't too impressed but we had fun. Then had to go and pick up horses today - i seem to have ended up with two of them as agreed to take Moscow's (my horse) field mate as well.
Me and Linus are off to France to see my Dad - he had a stroke about a month ago and his wife is in the states for a month so we are all doing shifts keeping him company. We're going down on the Eurostar but DP isn't coming so it will be my first long trip by myself with a toddler - hurrah?!
Welcome Mica - i have Linus aged 9 1/2 months. He's an absolute terror but great fun and a real pal.
have a good week all.
s
x

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mica23 · 06/07/2008 21:57

Hi, wow!You are actualy all really lovely and the babyes are just georgus!!!Havent done my profile yet but will do...Time has become such a comodity these days.I had to stop texting people as it seems I never got a hands free and then I forget and next thing its 2 days later!
But in short Fay is my first baby and Im negotiating a second one with DH who is not keen on idea as he has kids from previous relationship(tough, i want one more).We live in London and i work couple of hours a day and fay comes with me to work .DH works as a ganger on a building site, like a gazillion hours a day plus Saturdays so we hardly get to see him and are really unhappy about it (to say the least!!)
Have to dash now but THANK YOU guys for a lovely welcome and Lollypopzmummy; you should of worn the gown, you look great in it...

dal21 · 07/07/2008 08:28

Morning All!!

Hope you all had lovely weekends, ours was very relaxing!

Sophus - Huge thanks to you re. the dummy thing. On Friday, I made the decision to do cold turkey on the dummy - Ryan cried for 20 mins before each nap that day and at his sleep time. Since then , he hasnt woken once since going down at 7.15 until 6.30am! By Sat, he was also pretty much going down for his naps with minimum fuss! Fingers crossed it lasts, but dong it now was such a good idea! So thank you! Hope the trip to France goes ok.

PLP - Totally agree with you and Hopey about so much being dependant on the nature of the DC. I will definitely see how Ryan is getting on and then make a call on it. Hope the puke clearing has gotten better!

Hopey - thanks also for your reassuring words. If I really wanted to stay at home, then we could afford it, luxuries would have to go, but DH and I are pretty sure we could manage. But various things (long career with my existing company, existing economic uncertainty etc. etc) make me think that keeping my foot in on the career path would be a wise thing to do. If things dont go well, then will have to reconsider options. Fingers crossed it doesnt come to that! Well done on the attempting to give blood! Hope you friends DD is ok and the fish tank cleaning went ok.

Headfairy - Hello! I will be lucky when going back to work, DH has to do morning drop off, I dont envy him one iota. I go back 3 days a week 8 til 4, so really fab actually. Am hoping it gives me a good home/ work balance.

Hello ACMUM and Edie. Edie, will go take a look on the nurseries board. Didnt know there was one.

LisaLL - well done on first tooth! We are the same, Ryans first one appeared on Sat. Hope your shoulder gets better soon.

Kink - Hope you are reading this thread even if you arent posting. Am thinking of you and hoping that all is ok.

Lolly - sorry about your DH. Snap what Hopey said!

And last but not least, Mica - Welcome to you and baby Fay! Ryan is my first DC, 10 months old today (elefantshoes - happy 10 months to your LO too). Live in London, about to head back to work parttime.

Have fab days all. Are we interested in arranging a meet up? Am happy to coordinate...

dal21 · 07/07/2008 08:48

Ohhh, two questions...

Do iron on name tags work just as well as sew on?

How many are you/ when do you plan to start letting our LO's spoon feed themselves? Ryan holds a spoon while i feed him but have not put any food in front of him to spoon feed himself. we still do a combo of finger and spoon feeding. And are those bowl and spoon things with suction cups any good?

I sit back and wait for your collective wisdom to pour forth!

funbun · 07/07/2008 08:50

Hiya, back at work so able to post. Was meant to be an August 07 mum but DS was 16 days late so now a Sept 07 mum( maybe he knows I am a teacher and wanted to be one of the oldest in the year rather than one of the young ones.)

Great to read all your posts.

Question about milk feeds, DS still has 3 a day:7am, 3pm and before bed - is this about right? He is also having food and snacks throughout the day.

dal21 · 07/07/2008 09:10

Hi funbun - welcome! Sounds about right on the feeds. Ryan still has 3 milk feeds, 3 main meals and a few snacks depending on how long his naps are/ how much he ate in his main meals.

sophus · 07/07/2008 09:50

Dal - hurrah on dummy, well done you. i think you just know when time is right. But it has made world of difference for L.
re spoon feeding - Linus does his breakfast all by himself with a spoon - but that is a relatively new thing. It means i can read the paper and drink a HOT cup of tea, and he is such a piglet he doesn't make a mess, every last scrap goes in his mouth!
For his lunch he sometimes feeds himself but he's usually so hungry that i shovel it in myself. His supper is nearly all finger foods and he gets a bit stroppy if i try and feed him myself. But it tends to depend on what he is having really and whether i ahve enough energy to clear up afterwards.
Welcome funbun - Linus still has 3 milk feeds a day (BF) and i don't intend to change that until he is 1. He has three big meals a day as well - but he doesn't really have snacks unless we are out.

god this rain is grim

s
x

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Lollypopzmummy · 07/07/2008 18:05

Mica My strongest suggestion ever coming up for you: Please consider, (IMO) for you own sanity. leaving your next babe until Fay is about 3. . . you will wish you had waited until she was in school, I guarantee it (I certainly do, I honestly don't think I spend half as much time with Lolly that I spent with DD1 simply because I'm busy chasing/arguing with DD1 and I only get to give Lolly a proper cuddle, just me and her, about once a week, if that!).
All of my friends have put off having their second because they are watching me struggling emotionally because of this (and I am a very strong person who "handles" things better than most!). Don't make life difficult for yourself, whatever you do!

The reason I chose to have my two with a 2 year gap is because my brothers and I are each 2 years apart and we get on so well, but I should've been thinking more about the fact that I'm living my life not their's and should've thought more about the amount of hassle I was going to be causing myself!

Not to try and make your decisions for you or anything but, unless you have a lot of help (and I mean real physical help, not the odd friend saying "You can always rely on me" every once in a blue moon and when you do need them they're galavanting round the blardy countryside!), just think very carefully about how you'll be spending your time with two little one's (as opposed to one older one who could be in school some of the time and you'll be able to get your much needed mummy/baby time or even time to yourself. . . . what's that?!)

Dal: I've never tried name tags but I used to work in a haberdashery shop and we never had any complaints. . .
I don't remember when I started letting DD1 feed herself but am planning, when I get the time, to put mats down soon and let Lolly go some on a yoghurt!

Funbun: My Lolly is still having 4 x 6 ounce feeds a day and she's quite a small baby still. Personally I think they are the best at telling how much is enough for them, if they want more give it to them, can't do any harm!

Golly, ranting now!
Off to have a drink and get back to trying to make the most of having both the girl's having a nap. . . quick make some dinner whilst they're out of the way!!!!
xXx

EdieMcredie · 07/07/2008 20:08

Lolly-Sorry about your awful day and DH being an arse. By the sounds of it, things can only get better when you move out, I think it is a good idea. You should start going on ''dates'' and things, sounds like he takes you for granted.

Welcome Funbun and Mica!!!!

How is everybody...had a quick catch up off posts.

We are all fine here, Millie banged her head today but apart from that nothing eventful has happened, love to all xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Lollypopzmummy · 07/07/2008 20:21

Edie: I like the idea of going on "dates", one of my very good friends has said something along the same lines, you know, just to make him see how much he needs me!

xXx

PurpleLostPrincess · 07/07/2008 21:02

Helloooo!!

Welcome to funbun too, how lovely to have some new members! Wow, 16 days late I remember getting anxious with DS and DD1 but I only went over by 8 days with each of them - well done you!

Cerys also had a bump yesterday - DD1 has discovered that if you hold her up in the cotbed, she'll stand up by herself holding on to the side of the cotbed but then DD1 walked away and inevitably Cerys let go and shot back hitting her head on the other side bless her! I've apologised for shouting at DD1 by the way

Yes, Cerys has 6ozs offered to her with breakfast, mid afternoon then at bedtime - reassuring to find out thats reasonably standard !!! She's still teething really badly, its those darn top front teeth and I can't wait for them to finally pierce the skin Do your lo's suffer from runny nappies when they're teething? I know its a standard 'symptom' that goes with it but what with all her problems I'm more paranoid and wanted to find out what your experiences were. I guess having a baby means that poo has to be discussed every now and then but in our case, we're obsessed with it!!!! Her nappy rash is coming and going but when she has it, its awful and her cheeks are rosie red often throughout the day. This has been going on for almost a month now!!!! At least she's not off her food any more and she hasn't been sick for a couple of days either - phew!!

As far as age gaps go, my experience is a little different. As I said, I went over 8 days with my older two but it worked out that I had DD1 a week before DS started school (he was 4yrs 5mths). Unfortunately it just turned out to be the worst time ever because he felt pushed out in a kind of "we've got a new baby now so you can sod off to school" sort of way bless him and his resentment for her started there lol! I'm an only child so I don't get the whole sibling rivalry thing but they are always bickering and arguing even though I know they love each other deep down. The bonus of having older children is that they can help when you've got a new baby. DS at 4.5 was a massive help, running to get things for mummy but I worry when I look back that I relied too much on him and that might be another reason he resents DD1. Oh well, as long as they're civil to each other now, thats all that counts lol! The age gap between them and Cerys has been brilliant on the whole. So, really I haven't offered any advice either way, just another perspective I suppose lol!

I'll stop waffling now, sorry ladies!!

LLL - yay on toofie pegs coming through - I'm feeling your joy with you!!!

Loopy - hope things are better today?

dal - I wouldn't know as I've always stitched name tags on myself, sorry . I'm thinking I might let Cerys feed herself soon too but so far we've not tried

Oh, funbun - do you mind if I ask if you know about the cut-off for school dates? Is it definitely 1st Sept as I heard it could be 5th Sept?

sophus - sorry to hear about your Dad, hope he's doing OK? xxx

Hello to everybody else!!! ((((((hugs))))))xxx

PurpleLostPrincess · 07/07/2008 23:15

OK,so I spoke too soon - about 45 mins after posting, Cery woke up screaming. I went down to her but nothing would settle her except a little drink. I came upstairs and watched her on the monitor, she started gurgling (not in a good way!); I rushed down - she'd been sick EVERYWHERE!!!! You know how much hair she's got, so she had a late night bath and has only just settled back down again, her teeth seem to be really hurting her. She NEVER normally poos in the night but she had a full nappy so I might just call the doctor tomorrow...

Oh well, hopefully she'll feel better tomorrow!! xxx

Hopeysgirlwasntbig · 08/07/2008 10:53

Oh dear PLP poor Cerys, I hope the doctor is able to offer some advise.

Re age gaps, my personal experience is similar to PLP's in that I have two older DC, the gap between them is 2yrs 5 months, in my case, my boys (in particular DS1) are uber competitive and this has caused MANY frictions between them over the yrs. Yet with Niamh, there is no such problem as the age gap is so big. However, that's down to my boys' personalities. I do know lots of people who have kids close together and they get on really well, cuddle up etc etc. What Lolly said did strike a chord though because when DS2 was a baby I had a DS1 at home who was a handful, so a lot of my time was spent running around after him and DS2 didn't get much of a look in! In contrast this time round, I have all day with just Niamh which is just lovely.

Sorry to hear about all the bumps and bruises. Horrid isn't it. Niamh has started showing interest in pulling herself up into a standing position.

I started another thread about this, but was traumatised this morning by watching one of 'my' baby robins being taken away (alive and kicking) in the mouth of a neighbours cat. My cat got one yesterday. So HORRID. The robins had built a nest down the side of our house and I was able to have a sneaky peak at them every day to see how they were growing, Mum and Dad robin were quite happy for me to do this!! I also bought special food with mealworms in for them. They flew the nest yesterday morning, as yet, that's two out of the five that have been eaten . Horrid neighbour's cat came back for another one but I chased it off.

funbun · 08/07/2008 11:38

Purplelostprincess - School dates cut off is 31st Aug-1st Sept. So kids born after and including 1st Sept would be in separate year to those before August 31st.

I'm actually secondary school teacher so not sure about Primary school but guess the same applies.

Friend who is a reception class teacher says it does make quite a difference in the early years, as in the older children are more able than than the June, July August birthdays. Must say makes little difference once they are older.

dal21 · 08/07/2008 15:23

Hi all!!

PLP - How is Cerys? Was she ok during the night?

Hopey - poor robins.

Funbun/ PLP - I think it depends from school to school. One I called said their cut off was the 5th also.

Hope everyone is ok.

Lollypopzmummy · 08/07/2008 16:13

Reading through PLP's post, I did consider DD1 when we were trying to conceieve Lolly (in fact the timing was all for her!) and that's why I regret it the way I do. In my daily life I'm finding it hard to juggle the 2 kids being at home, whereas if DD1 had started school (well, pre-school at least) then I'd have my day time with Lolly and be able to appreciate my time with DD1 more too when she'd get out of school. . . and, hopefully, would enjoy her time with me more than she does now (at the moment she's just being told off all the time and it's getting everyone down, still she's having pre-school in September so finger's crossed it'll get better then!). I'm just referring to my life, everyone's different, aren't they?!

I guess I'm just feeling stressed out with everything right now and applying it to all sorts of crap, ignore anything I have to say on just about any matter, I'm talking balls all over the place right now!

Along the same thread here: Dh got the hire car, has had dealing with the other party's solicitor, dealings with a solicitor through his own insurance dealers, and is so stressed out it's unbelieveable, we just want it all over and done with now now now!

Oh, did I even mention Dh had a car accident on Saturday? That's how hectic things have been in this house the past few days now.
On the good side, DH was the victim and the guy got straight out of the car and took full responsibility and apologised etc (although he said his foot slipped off the break, there's no way you can write off the car in front with just rolling forward?!!! Moron!)

Oh, I give up, my brain's frazzled, you've just got loads of rubbish to read from me there, in random order to make it much more fun eh?!
And now Lolly's having a fit at me cos she wants her chocolate buttons. . . I'm going for a nap when DH gets back!!!!! RARRRR!
xXx

dal21 · 09/07/2008 09:18

Morning - ever started the day off on the wrong foot and wanted to start it all over??

  1. First my milk exploded in the microwave. No idea how that happened.
  2. It is still raining and apparently will continue to do so for the next century
  3. I am planning to go on a media blackout because everytime I read the paper/ watch the news, I am surprised we havent all just given up considering all the perpertual gloom they keep harping on about
  4. I am still hating the thought of leaving Ryan in nursery, but know the lead up to the actual going to work is probably much worse than reality
  5. Ryan has grizzled for the last 2 hours non stop. Either my bad mood has rubbed off on him, or he is a tad upset that he now gets a beaker at breakfast time too. I say damn the experts who say bottles should be gone by 12 months.

Grrrr