March 2007... soon they will be one!!

[kiwibella]

Well, Jordi is our first one year old.... they will be catching up soon .

I was tempted to write the subject with reference to NM .

piffle, he is romantic -he has stuck a bottle of champagne in the fridge for when he is back- and always supposing i am still awake

muppet, am still bf, but they have been back for a a few months now. and now i get terrible PMT which i have not had before and its bloddy scarey. any tips welcome, feel should hide knives to start with

sponge, I've found that starflower oil has really helped with my pmt

spongecake - poor yuo, just have a good sob as that is good stress relief.

does anyone rememberthe thing about trials for the new dyson that was on a thread a while back? well i have been selected and pick up my hoover on monday!! so excited, now that is if it is the highlight of my week!!

Diva, I had a peek at the food thread the other day... and thought it got unnecessarily nasty.

Sponge ... always having daytime telly on, and cooking shows when I can, it has been funny to listen to different chef's opinions of Valentines Day!!! Hope your dh didn't get home too late to enjoy that bottle of champers.

MissE was out last night so we decided to open a bottle of sparkling which has been in the fridge for god-knows-how-long. We were ready to enjoy each other when phone went for hubs and Kate woke and wouldn't settle . Story of my life!!! After much screaming, hubs ended up taking her for a bottle (I didn't think she needed it) and I curled up in bed... laughed at myself when up with Kate in the night at having a strop over not being able to settle my dd.

For about a week now, Kate has been waking three times during the night and feeding back to sleep. I am sure this is a bad habit rather than needing food because I have been making sure she gets good meals during the day. Any suggestions or advice would be really appreciated because I am feeling at wits end with broken sleep.

Piffle, I'm really pleased that the physio has helped you!!! Lol at your dh and his choice of takeaways (tho, pizza is my fav... so I would have been happy )

Muppet ... I don't know why people are "too polite" to say something when they see something unusual.

Callie... sorry to hear about the loss of your cat. I also had a similar pain in my belly after the stomach bug had been through our place. I'm am pleased to read that your doctor thought it was related to the bug - it was why I started to wonder whether I was pg.

Kitty and Ronnie in a colourful cast!! Is it his arm that is making him grumpy? I hope that the bowen helps him and ds1 as much as it has helped you. It is amazing to think that ds1 could get some relief from his asthma.

Evenhope... have you booked your accommodation? The YHA in central Wellington is amazing and in a brilliant location.

kiwi - i always sound like a harsh bitch when i say this but just let her cry it out and she will eventually learn that she does nt have you wrapped around her cute pink little finger. she cries becasue she knows you will come. leave her and within a short time you will have peaceful unbroken nights. it is a bad habit sadly and best to break it sooner than later. i have learnt this from experience. now when i put Hayden to bed even if he is wide awake and a few seconds before been scurrying around the bedroom he just lies down and falls asleep and the light goes straight off, none of this night light palava (partly because i never got round to buying one!! ) though he has a musical lamb which plays music and has a light glowing ball in the middle. it is hard at the beginnign as it can seem quite distressing but persevere and it will pay off. sorry if it seems hard! just what worked for me!

sponge-have you spoken to anyone about how you're feeling?my PMT used to involve 3 days of being a bit narky before i had kids,now it lasts 3 weeks.

i tried starflower oil but it made me feel worse.magnesium/calcium supplements are helpful,but ive had to stop taking them as they increase anxiety,which was already being made worse by being on prozac.

piffle-i think its admirable to make sure your children have a healthy diet,but i think its out of order for parents to expect everone elses children to go without treats just because they cant be bothered to say 'no' to their own child.

i did once moan at an asda worker becuase ds2 was having a hissy fit,and she started saying 'whats all that about?' etc when i was trying to ignore him.i shouted at her 'this is what happens when stupid supermarkets put sweets by the checkouts!'

everyone here has a cold.

thanks Bethoo... the trouble is that I can't let her cry it out. I have tried - she doesn't give up and we both end up distressed. I am also concerned about the noise for the neighbours especially during the night. That said, she did go back to sleep by herself after her first waking last night with a bit of whimpering. She was up for an hour with her second waking, just cuddling with eyes wide open. She went straight to sleep after a feed but she wasn't looking for it.

Diva, the diet thing is awkward isn't it. I agree with you... but I do think it is difficult for children to choose between the "good" and the "treats". MissE's diet is absolute crap - some of that is her age (independence), some is my fault, some is her fussiness. She would be happy with a bowl of pasta and brocolli for dinner every night!!

Sniffle, sniffle... hope you are all feeling ok x x

kiwi - ok, you could try a similar approach, first night let her cy for a minute before seeign to her then the following day wait 2 minutes building it up, it will take longer but may be less distressing for you both. i know it is hard.

Hello all, sorry I've been busy.

Piffle I'm really glad you're feeling a bit better. I hope it continues and you improve more still.

Kitty I pmsl at that food thread. Thing is when I started weaning Bertie (just four months ago) I was like the OP but now at ten months I've lost that pfb-ness and he eats goodness only knows what off the floor - I tell people it's BLW !

Kiwibella, I will not let Bertie cry alone either, I worry about cortisol levels and that kind of thing.

However there is a "temperate solution" to CIO techniques. Let her "cry it out" but in your arms. If you're into AP stuff, the wise Dr. Sears once famously wrote that "a baby crying in the loving arms of a parent is not the same as a baby crying it out alone". Just hold her, sing to her if you like, whisper to her, tell her you're there... she will still cry and scream and fuss as she is very used to the boob, but eventually - and it took 26 minutes the first time we did it - she will sleep. She won't be crying because she's alone and scared and wonders where Mum is... she'll know exactly where you are, she'll just be crying because she's upset as she normally gets boob and what's this about.

Second time you do it... ten minutes. Third and fourth time faster. By the end of a week, she will know what is coming when you lie her down on the bed with your arm round her and provided she is tired, she will go to sleep.

Once you reach this stage, you can start trying "gradual withdrawal" which is well documented in various places on t'internet.

Sorry that was so long.

Hello to everyone else.

Diva I don't know what to suggest to you on your thread although I must say it does seem like your dp has a bit of a computer addition problem... I suppose at least he's not addicted to gambling or heroin, but it's still not great... not sure what to say except obviously he does need a bit of a talking to. Is there anyone - a friend, a relative - he knows who he will listen to?

LOL Finn eats off the floor but I'm happy as its usually the stuff he hurled there earlier. Therefore it aids me in the quest to give him a balanced diet
as for what others eat pah not my business, would never say anything. Have enough control of my kids to ensure they eat sensible amounts of crap if its inevitable. As they get older its harder though. Ds1 now is a chocoholic. Teenagers huh.
Finn did not sleep well last night! Up three times and up at six for the day!!! Am off to sort out their macaroni cheese now ! Dd has requsted mushrooms ham and broccoli with it. So am off to chop peel and grate. I am. Secret masterchef wannabe. I love to cook!

bella-i could never let any of mine cry it our alone,i think that once,when ds2 was about 8/9 months old and screaming with his teeth despite calpol,feeding and everything else you can name,i left him crying for about an hourbut i was on my own and i couldnt do anyithing.

i cant leave Elsie to cry as she will wake up dd2(not to mention the neighbours).its a bit different with a ff baby,though,as she hasnt been fed in my arms since 3 months so doesnt associate cuddles with food.

mossy-dh admits he's addicted.since starting the thread i have managed to say everything i needed to say to him.he has been more helpful etc.i managed to say everything in a calm,measured way,untill last night when he said that i don't have to go out,the kids only pester me cos i let them etc...so out of my PMT-controlled mouth came the uncensored version of whats been going on in my head the past few weeks.

all he said was 'i'm not going to argue with you,i wanted us to spend time together this evening'(in other words'i wasnt expecting that and i need at least a week to think up various excuses/ways to twist it so its all yours or the kids fault,so drop it for now and i will start a row with you in a week or so and tell you all the things youve done wrong').

oops,that was a bit long

omg wtf is that food thread woman on?

It was a very studied reply diva, I'm impressed

still dont know what shes on about though.oh well

ds2 was a dream on monday,tuesday,and wednesday,but he's being a little sod again now.his hearing is fine so i know its just him,however,i am hoping he's having a learning spurt[clutching at straws emoticon]or something.we saw his teacher in asda cafe yesterday,her baby is quite young,no more than 7 months i'd say.i couldnt imagine dealing with a class of 4-5 year old tearaways that soon after having a baby(im not saying anything against her,BTW,i just feel sorry for her as there are a few lads like ds2 in his class and i feel she's been thrown to the lions somewhat,plus i feel guilty that my son is giving her so much s**t when she has a small baby to look after at home).

diva, is that the thread re food at toddler grp? at kitty reply about time to worry about quality of snacks way to go...
i haven't spoke to anyone re my pmt as hoping it will go away. i don;t just get tearful, i get hysterical and am quite scared by the way i feel i am about to lose control at dh, and i get v depressed. might try the starflower oil and evening primrose.

polar, what are cortisol levels

kiwi, i couldn't leave my ds to cry, as i think he could be ill./bad dream or something and not be able to tell me, maybe one day when he can talk...

we did have a glass when he got home, accompanied by rant about his job. quite funny really.

ds has started to sleep on hs tummy with his knees up - he is very snuffly with horrible cough and doc says just let him ride it out and he will cough for 6-8 weeks. i hope not, he sounds terrible.

oh my i sound like a heartless bitch!!! i seem to be the only one here who ignores the cries! but saying that he cries no more and can go to bed awake in the dark and settle himself. it only took a week or two of enduring the cries but then i do not think he was as persistant as the other babies on this thread. i guess it works for some and not others.
i seem to be ruffling feathers everywhere at the mo! i am usually easy going but as soon as hormones kick in i can be a cow!! no wonder xdp shunned me last time!!

spongecake - cortisol is the chemical released in the brain, somethign to do with stress levels.

bethoo I leave Ron to cry if I've had enough. I did that yesterday.
Today I have taken to drugging him up , one shot of calpol, nurofen and piriton works a treat!!

He is taking a few steps on his own now and spends the rest of the time marching round holding on to my little finger. Trouble is he's pulled off centre by his cast. He also loves to walk up and down the stairs.

I've a feeling that in a week or two, once he's properly walking he'll be a much happier chap.

just glanced at thread

kitty - hope poor ronnie is feeling better soon.

Hope all who are not well are feeling better soon - not good now the weather is improving to be stuck indoors with sickness.

did not go there with the toddler group food thread.

dd3 gets some cuddles when she is screaming but sometimes I have to put her down to attend to the other two. She is generally such a happy bunny - with a huge amount of cheekiness thrown in.

No walking here although pulling to stand and lots of crawling - commando or knees.

Been a stressful week - had to do some new parent support visits as part of me role as a new parent support person for the down syndrome association. Meet the cutest little girl - all that lovely newborn stuff made me feel very very clucky!!!

But good news - Our check of dd2 for cardiac conditions came back all clear - so one less thing on my plate. Just need to wait to see if dd3 gets the all clear when she is older.

foxy how did you dh feel/think about the apology by the Aus gov't??

best run - am supposed to be sorting the house out whilst dh has taken dd1 and 2 to the park! Better look like I have done something when they get home

Eids I'm so glad the tests came back clear. That's one load off your mind isn't it?

Bethoo don't worry you don't sound heartless at all I wasn't saying that. I spend far too much time on the internet hoovering up information to make my softieness sound like it has scientific backing. But really it is probably more pfb-syndrome!! And yes, I think you're right. Some babies will happily have a wail before bed and then sleep... some babies will persist until they make themselves sick... it's luck of the draw which type you have really!!

Maybe it is the beginning of type A / type B personalities showing themselves?

Kitty - poor little Ronnie I keep thinking of him in his mini cast, he's a very brave little man. Yes I think he might be happier when he can walk, I've certainly noticed a bit of a difference in Bertie now he is more mobile.

Diva I'm glad things are a bit better - for now at least - between you & your dh. I hope it continues; as I say it's cold comfort I know but at least he's not addicted to something harmful. And now he recognises it it's the first step to doing something about it.

Sponge I'm sorry to hear about your pmt & depression etc. Again here is another vote for the starflower oil from me; and you know I am very cynical about that sort of thing but I can honestly say back in the days when I used to get periods it worked a treat.

Talking about periods - or do we say AF here? - I have been getting period pains for about a week but still no AF. About a month ago I had a very brief bleed - I mean about half a day's worth - but this time - still nothing.

I really thought it was on its way the other day but it wasn't... I have been carrying my mooncup everywhere but haven't needed it yet.

I'm still bfing a lot during the night & when I'm not in work, and now I have the loan of a double pump until April maybe my prolactin levels are just that little bit too high for it to actually properly start?

Right off to have a look at that toddler thread. I did have some sympathy with the OP but it does sound like she's being a bit precious... and this comes from someone else with pfb-syndrome! It wouldn't be so bad if she wasn't so judgmental of other people's choices.

That's what annoyed me about that thread - the judgements and caustic comments that fly around...

... such a pointless thread anyway really... i truly don't believe it needed to be brought up and I think the OP was looking for a reaction (which she got). From her turn of phrase i would say she's "intelligent" enough to think of practical solutions herself without needing to ask "advice" on here. Bet she starts some more...

Anyway... it entertained me for half an hour

eids - so glad dd2 got the all clear.

Bethoo - i went for the crying it out solution with Samuel - it involved me going into his room every 30 seconds the first night for nearly 3 hours - he was screaming and screaming. But I'd reached the point where i needed to do it for me. He was fine about it - just very cross - and now he sleeps 7pm to 6am and I'm a much happier mummy. I figured he wasn't that distressed as he knew i was coming back in the room all the time. However, i can totally understand you ladies who struggle to leave them crying it out. It was the hardest thing i had to do. Prolly couldn't do it again. Really feel for you all having broken nights too cos it's awful and I actually thought i was going a bit mad from sleep deprivation. Hope things improve for any of you with sleepless nights.

Muppet, that's what made me about that thread. I thought is she so stupid and incapable as to need 'advice' on this matter?

I get very riled when ( sorry to all first timers here, no offence meant!!) when those who only have the experience of one baby go on about how they are going to do things in x years time when they have x children blah, blah.
Well, they're not. I can't stand these sanctimonious know-it-alls like that woman.

Eids great news about dd2, you must be very relieved.

Mossy how is your dh and his dodgy eye? Is he still driving you mad?

He is... he is... although it is quite serious by the sounds of it, and having a rummage through the internet he was actually being honest about the possibility he could pretty much lose his sight, so I do see why he is in a bad way emotionally.

However drinking a bottle of wine almost every night is not going to help his emotional state, is it now? Don't think it helps that I've stopped drinking... he still buys enough booze for two and then drinks it himself!

Yes, that thread was entertaining. I did wonder too though if her child was quite chubby, or whether more like Bertie & Ronnie, quite skinny. Because I do think when you have a skinny baby you're maybe a bit less precious about what goes in their mouths because even though you know they're fine you can't escape that feeling they need feeding up, iykwim?

mossy-dh knows hes addicted,but he doesnt intend to ever do anything about it as he doesnt see it as a problem.its not the game thats a problem to me so much as not doing anything as a family,and i know thats not his fault but it still makes me

i used to drink a bottle of wine every night and then some,especially when i was with xp(escapism),but if anybody mentioned how much i was drinking it made me feel even worse inside and then i wanted to drink even more.get your dh on effexor,i drank twice on them and the hangovers i got have literally put me off for life

talking of ad's,i havent taken any for 3 days now.i just dont want to take them anymore,i want to be myself again.

kitty-maybe you and i have too many children to remember how we were with the first.actually,my dc have a healthier diet now than ds1 did as a baby/toddler.i really did think that thread was a wind-up like the hamster and the 'i slept with dh's twin brother' ones.

sponge-i hope you find something to help with PMT.

eids-so glad the tests came back ok

wheres foxy?

i better go and take the lunatics out for their daily run-around.hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Very quiet on this thread- where is everyone?

Having been chasing around frantically trying to find a dress for the weddings for the last few weeks I finally found some in Sainsburys (of all places). Having bought them I've now remembered DD will need feeding at some point during each wedding.... duh! How do you forget something like that?