Oct 2007 - This little piggy had none (sleep that is!)

[alicet]

Hello ladies!

Well here is the new thread so I can link it before the old one runs out... Hope you all find it!

Hello ladies!!!! Big Wave!

Have you missed me?

Internet FINALLY back on so I now have something to do when Adam is asleep again (Oh I know I should do something more productive like house work but stuff that! )

Not had a chance to try and catch up - Choc has been keeping me up to date though. WIll go try and skim read now and hope to be back later if Adam sleeps long enough....

Glad to hear sleep doc has been helping! Anyone else needs it mail me on alicetownend at doctors dot org dot uk.

Oh and I'm still up for Ledbury meet - did we agree Wed 19th? I'll send an email in the next couple of days....

OK so I've just had a quick skim through - impossible to remember everything but a couple of things did stick out...

Muppet - massive hugs to you - just terrible to go through that. A guy I used to work with ( but wasn't very close to) hung himself a few years ago and that was just awful - it must be so much worse with a close friend. All I can say is that when people are so so depressed that suicide is the only nswer I don't think you could have said anything to stop that. Or anything to make it worse so don't beat yourself up. To be all medical for a second (used to have to deal with patients attempting suicide when I worked in A&E so know a little about assessing their risk to go on ad do it again) she used a method that was definately going to work and she put in a fiar bit of planning to go and check into the hotel under another name so I would say she really really meant it. So although it is desperately sad I honestly don't think anyone could have prevented it, and if they had done she would have managed another way another time. Big hugs.

Floria delighted the sleep doc worked! I have only managed to read the first couple of pages but will make a concerted effort to read more this weekend!

Ejt - glad you had a lovely birthday and nice one on dh finallysticking up for you and also mairwen playing up your mil!!!! Good girl!

Inzi - hope your antibiotics work honey and that you get the scan and some more answers soon. I agree it sounds suspicious for them to have called you like that - it's certainly not standard practice. Ask lots of questions and make sure you are satisfied with the answers!!!

MrsFish great that Ben's skin has improved with the soya milk

Anyamum - I am sure I am not the only one but I am DYING with curiosity as to what you can have written to offend everyone? Pretty please will you tell me? Not offended easily!

Dal - congrats on becoming an auntie!

LES will try and get round to sending a pic....

Hello to everyone else!!!!

morning all ... worst night yet, Mairwen is poorly sick: she would not settle at all last night, even in bed with me - we both finally managed to drop off and get some well-needed rest at 5am ... then had to get up again at 6.15, as Rhydian got up!

Have just taken her to the doc and she has slapped cheek ... I suspected as much, poor mite is really unwell with it!

muppetgirl - I'm so sorry that you are struggling - what were your friend's passions when she was well? Perhaps you and your friends could go and do that? Thinking of you - and sending you enormous hugs, pats on your shoulder, and a shoulder to weep on if needed.

Alice - lovely to see you back!!

FT - glad to hear the sleep thing is working for you - I'm not doing anything like that until Mairwen no longer suffers from reflux ...

tLES - am of your sleep routine!

Well, Mairwen is asleep (thankfully, she's a clingy-whinge-bag at the moment!), so I'm going to go and take advantage of the peace, and cook some baked potato oven chips - and maybe an omelette!

Have a good weekend all - love and hugs to everybody I haven't said hi to!

Just a quick note before we go to do the shopping (food stocks reached critical level).
Muppet - ((((BIG HUGS)))) I can only echo what everyone else has said, must be terrible to loose someone so close and feel so helpless, thinking of you x

Inzi for you, how could they leave you to go on so long like this?! Hope they get their act together soon and get you sorted out so you feel better (((sending get well vibes))))

Alice!! Glad to see your back, missed you! I too really want to know what anyasmum said

strawberry - hope you have a noce time with SIL

Stefka - at you getting woken up! Hope the sleep thing gets better soon, i'm sure it will, all you can do is try your best, i'm sure you're doing fantastic

Floria - thanks for sending me the sleep doc, glad it seems to be working for you, Dylan seems to have calmed down and kind of gone back to one feed per nigt so might have been a growth spurt? Not going to relax just yet though cause we know what these lo's are like at throwing us a curveball just when we think it's sorted.. Gona read the sleep doc so i'm prepared!

Anyway really have to make my shopping list now so hi to everyone I haven't mentioned and i'll catch ya all soon

oh et - so sorry to hear lo has slapped cheek, hope she gets better soon x

Sorry you're having crap sleep at the mo ejt. Hope Mairwen is better soon and that that helps.

Last night wasn't much fun for us either. We have started using greedy baby formula at night in a vain attempt to get him to settle for longer between feeds. First night was a success but last night he woke at 9, 1, 5 and then 7 which wasn't great. Still, know there are people out there with worse so won't moan too loudly!

Dal cross posted - Hello!

DH and I had a bit of a fight before bed last night about the night waksings as I suggested that maybe he should go in sometimes to settle DS so he doesn't think he will get fed. He told me he wasn't getting up at 4am and that was that. I think he felt bad today as he has now offered to sleep in DS's room and do ALL the night wakings! I think we can find a middle ground as I am pretty sure he will need fed sometimes just not 8 times a night! I hate the sleep stuff it's all so confusing I just don't know what to do for the best.

Stefka; I do so understand..my Dh tried to give Alex an ebm bottle for the first night feed for the first few weeks but Alex started refusing the bottle and so I was lumbered with it all from then on, as you know just last week he was demand feeding every 2 hours (or more often)from midnight until 6 am but I decided that 1am and 4am were acceptable the others were not and had just become habit because he couldnt get himself back to sleep and needed the boob to help him...I was surprised at how quickly he adapted, I didn't at any point let his grumbles escalate to full blown crying, I reassured him that I was there but didn't pick him up unless he started to get worked up. If your DH could do the reassurance on the wakeups that really shouldn't require a feed for a few nights you may find yourself, like me down to just one in no time. I truly hope things improve very soon.

muppet - so sorry for your loss it must be awful, especially with all the what ifs, but as everyone has said it sounds like no one could have done anything My cousin committed suicide, he was 18, ran in front of a lorry on the motorway, he was suffering from depression, grief from losing his dad and a split personality, none of us could have done anything as he had tried several times. My thoughts are with you at this time.

To all those wondering what Anyasmum could have said... it was nothing really, I think she was being a bit oversensitive (yes you were ;)) none of us on here would have thought any less of her. It was something to do with a bloke who had died in a cake eating contest, and her reaction to it. Hope you don't mind me repeating it anyasmum?

alicet - Glad to see you back. Ben's skin is a bit better, he has only been on the soya milk for about 8 days and his skin is still dry and red, just not as bad as ezcema. The doc said to carry on with the creams and give the soya milk another 3 weeks then we will reassess things.

After a couple of weeks of Ben not settling at night (he was waking up 3-4 times) we have had two nights of sleeping through again. I think he has been getting too hot. I changed his grobag for a thinner one and he slept through... coincidence?

Inzi - I hope you get sorted soon, you must be feeling really down about it all

Hi briefly --

Muppet, I am so sorry. A friend of mine's husband committed suicide leaving two little boys behind. The saddest thing was, he was late home, and my friend said in passing to her sons, 'I wonder where daddy is', and the older son, who was seven, said 'I think he wanted to die'. Horrible. But as other people have said she clearly wanted to end her life and whatever anyone said wouldnt have made a difference. Maybe you could do something commemorative that would have been something she enjoyed before she became sick?

On a very different note, Anyasmum's comment was actually funny, I thought - I saw it before she deleted it.

Got to go now but hugs to Ejt, Stefka, Inzi and anyone else who needs them, and welcome back to Alicet!

MrsFish - sorry if I left you off - I thought I'd copied the most recent one - wasn't deliberate!

LES - have sent you another pic - and have just sent you another email - I am being really thick!!! Looked really clever - can see how you need one with more colour though.

Inzi - at least you know it's an infection so you can get some treatment. Here's hoping scan is clear.

Muppet - so sorry about your friend. If she was that determined though (and it sounds like she was), there is certainly nothing you could have said or done that would have made any difference. A year isn't a long time to get over losing someone and anniversaries are always hard. Take care this weekend. Big hugs.

Alicet - welcome back! We missed you.

The comment I made was about something that struck me as really funny in the news - but then I realised that family/friends of the person involved could have been posting on here for all I knew and they wouldn't have found it funny in the slightest. I think it's now being built up to be funnier than it actually was anyway...! (MrsFish - nope, don't mind at all!)

ejt - hope Mairwen feels better soon.

How is everyone finding hungry baby milk? We've tried it for a couple of days but she drinks the same amount as she does normal milk . She's been a bit unsettled too and has gone back to being rubbish at napping. Not sure whether that's a growth spurt thing or the change in milk.

Hope everyone has a good weekend and that all dh/dp's remember that it's mothers day .

Hi all

Thank you all you lovely ladies for your words of support. Dh got home just after my post and I just cried and cried. I think it had been brewing this weeks as I spent my time comforting our 2 mutual friends that I didn't think about how I felt. Suicide is awful as all you are left with is why, why WHY? You can't ask them and you'll never get the answers, you're just left thinking.

Re the marking it in some way I have decided to buy a neckalce for the three of us close friends that is her birth stone. I looked and it is amyethest, a purply colour. I have one of Ollie's birthstone and he loves it as he knows when I wear it I think of him. It would be the same for the three of us to remember Sarah.

She was determined and the way she did it was hideous. But I do think of the funny times we had together, the fact we used to joke that she should have been blond as she was always saying funny things that didn't make sense. I am going to her grave on Sunday with a friend and she said there were so many flowers left she didn't think there would be any room for more...still, it's lovely to know she's still in everyone's thoughts.

I suppose you have to view life in the longterm in that people will come and go. Some you will take with you into new phases of your life whereas some you have to leave behind and some, they will always be a part of your memories. The very special ones.

Am still up for the ledbury meet up x

18th september - Vaunda (aka TLES) - Zachary 18lb 7oz scoffing mashed bananas as often as poss along with whatever we re having for breakfast/lunch or dinner. plus formula feeds child number 2 9 yrs old......

26th September- Floria Tosca - baby boy - Alexander - weighed 16lb 9oz at almost 20wks - first baby - still exclusively bf - not weaning yet and little monkey refuses all attempts at giving him a bottle or a dummy too.

1st October - ejt1764 - baby girl - Mairwen - weighed 16lb 4oz at 20 weeks - child #2 also have ds Rhydian (5) - still exclusively bf - haven't started weaning yet, and Madam refuses all attempts at giving her a bottle or a dummy!

MrsFish - 5 Oct - baby boy, Ben - weighed 8lb 11 ounces at birth, last weighed at 18 weeks 17lbs 13 and a half ounces will be 20 wks on fri. Started weaning at 16 wks, he's on two feeds a day and 4 bottles. He is now in 6-9mth old clothes but not for much longer. Also got a 2:9 old Sam

Strawberrylace ? 5 Oct ? baby boy Olly (first baby) ? weighed 15lb 5oz at 20 weeks ? still exclusively bf despite the thrush pain, and although he?s nosy about food, not onto weaning yet

J20 - 5 Oct baby girl Shannon (2nd baby) weighed 7lb 3oz - exclusively bf until 6 wks-now on 2x8oz+2x9oz greedy baby milk, just started giving baby porridge and breakfast cereal which she loves! also got 7.11 Leonie

Anyasmum - 7 Oct - baby girl Anya (first baby) - weighed 9lb 7oz at birth and 13lb 9oz at 18 weeks - bf until 8 weeks - has eyes bigger than stomach when it comes to food - not found anything so far that she doesn't love!

WinnieThePooh - 11th Oct baby girl Shula weighed 7lb 2oz at birth. 12lb 14.5oz at 19 weeks. Also got older daughter (6 in August). Shula is exclusively breast fed still.

MINE - 21st Oct, Eren was born at 7lb 11oz. He's 18 weeks today and weights 18lb 5oz. I had to stop bf at around 5 weeks as the poor mite was just too hungry and my supply was not strong enough to fill him nor was there enough of it full stop... i remember expressing for 30 mins and only got 1oz!! He has ben ff ever since and slept through since then too!! Have started weaning one meal a day but he still can put away 8oz too. Greedy monster! Eren is my first baby so this is all very new and exciting for me.

Dalrymps - 30th Oct baby boy Dylan weighed 6lb 5oz at birth. weight 10lb 14oz at 16 weeks. mix fed, occasionally nosey about food but not showing any signs of being ready to wean yet.

Inzidoodle - 3rd November girl Jane weighed 10lb 15oz at birth, weight at 14 weeks 13lb. FF after bfing failed, trying to hold off weaning until 6months although appetite is increasing!!

Gemmamc - 3 November - boy weighing 16lb 5oz at 15 weeks. Still exclusively BF and refusing to take a bottle or dummy. Trying to hold off weaning as much as possible although he is starting to look interested in food. Sleeping not going very well - mummy v. tired...

Muppet - 5th Nov - Henry - Weighed 16lb 10oz at 14 weeks (16 weeks now)- second son, 1st Oliver (nearly 4)- not weaning just having 9oz bottles.

muppet that sounds lovely, you nearly had me in tears, i hope it helps you come to terms a lttle better honey

Alice-great to hear form you, glad you've got your lifeline internet back!

i'm pretty pi$$ed off today, my phone company have ripped me off for £240 because i didn't get my cashback offer in in time because i couldn't contact them grrrr

Ejt-sorry to hear lo is ill, Shannon has still got her rash round her neck, its been 2 weeks now, it looks similar to slapped cheek actually, but as it isn't on her cheek i'm assuming its an allergy to the new bibs or dribble rash.

mrsF-thanks for accepting my friend request on FB now you know why i dont get on MN anymore!

sorry to those i haven't mentioned, i'm going to try and get an early night as Shannon was up at 4.30 this morning, love to all xxxx

lol j20 cos ya sending me so many invites i can't keep up lolol

Well DH went in at five after he had fed at four so I knew he wasn't hungry. He screamed like mad when he realised it wasn't me but eventually settled and went back to sleep so there is definitely a bit of habit going on with these night wakings.

I got Ben weighed on thursday he has slowed right down so is no longer a fat knacker

At 21 weeks (which is what the HV makes it from her chart ) he is 18lb 3oz's so he has now dropped off the 91st centile to around the 85th. I measured him yesterday and he is nearly 70cm long

Sorry LES

i try to only send you the ones i think you'll like!

its so annoying that you have to keep inviting people to do things, thats why people keep deleting me!

Shannon woke dd1 up at 6 this morning, she was not happy! shes gone back to sleep in her pram and dd1 is driving me crazy, she wont stop talking grrrr

i'm going out tonight with my male friend, who i met when i was pg, its the first time we're going out without me having the kids, so should be good

whats everyone doing tommorrow? i've got my mum coming round for chinese.

have a nice day all x

hello all

I havent been here for ages. I guess i just got busy
How are you all? Jasmine is now nearly 6 months, and weighs 13lb 12. She is lovely and grown so quick (pics in profile).

I got very ill when she was 3 weeks old and i spent 3 weeks in hospital and had an op. Im loads better now though. I have just been discharged from physio for SPD. Things are on the up

muppett - that sounds like a lovely thing to do to remember your friend by.

In fact it got me thinking to get my ds birthstone on a necklace for myself.... a kind of mothers day gift for me if you like......

dh just popped out to buy me a mothers day present..... we had a bit of a tiff whilst out shopping yesterday. I was annoyed he hadn;t thought about what to get me as all he kept doing was asking me what i wanted!
The plonker didn;t get the message that the point is you think about these things in advance and buy something suitable for the occasion/day etc.
Even flowers would have been nice. Now i think he's out to get me something practical i may have mentioned i wanted!

I sound like a real diva but all i wanted was just a bit of thought and planning. WALLY!
He did the same thing on valentines... in the end all i got was a card..... not even a whiff of flowers

Oh well, hope everyone has a good day.

Lovely to see you back lisa - Glad you are now well and can enjoy being a mum again. Time sure has flown by

Hey Lisa good to hear from you, pics are lovely, both your lo's are sooooo cute! Glad you're feeling better with the spd

J20 Not to worry was just kidding with ya xxx

Hi all

We had a lovely day. I took Ollie to see the Mr.Men's live theatre show with his friend and mum. It was great in a 4 yr old kind of way I then went and played my first tennis match and won!!! 6-1 so I am really chuffed with myself.

Looking forward to mothers' day as dh bought me a pressie with H as Ollie said 'I've made mummy a card, that is enough' so it will be a surprise to Ollie and me! Got swimming lessons and tennis tomorrow so it is just like a normal sunday for us.

Les- I will send you a piccie, just haven't got round to it yet x