Oct 2007 - This little piggy had none (sleep that is!)

[alicet]

Hello ladies!

Well here is the new thread so I can link it before the old one runs out... Hope you all find it!

Hi Apricott,
good job on the SLR. I took a short course in photography last year and I am so glad I did. I think I am taking more interesting photos of DS with the SLR (I will put one on the profile soon), although nothing close to what I could do if I actually used all the skills I learnt...

The real nappies - I am also using them mainly in the day, but not at night. I think they are great - we also have fewer "leaks" than with the disposables, which is an argument for using them at night as well (the argument against is that you have to change them more often..although I read somewhere you could just put two on the baby and they can last all night - haven't tried yet...)

The dummy - I wish DS took one! Don't worry about it. I know plenty of people who used them with dcs and then took them away quite easily when the time was right.

Edinburgh is near me! It's a lovely city.

Another awful night - Dareh was up eight times. Took him into bed with me at 5am as I couldn't stay up anymore.

Done - I put a photo of ds on my profile...

Edinburgh is great. I would love to live there rather than London...

Actually, I will be there with DH and ds tomorrow - for a week, staying in a hotel in the centre. Anyone fancy meeting up? Also, any general tips on moving around town with a baby?

LES - you have a worse sense of humour than me! Glad CDs arrived - no panic at all to get them done. Have sent you a photo - how difficult is it to pick a favourite??!

ejt - your birthday sounds lovely - glad you had such a good day.

Muppet - thanks for baby signing books. I must have put something really strange in the search box on Amazon because I don't remember seeing those! Might sign up for one of the classes too.

Floria - good news on the sleeping front. Glad it's working out. We felt earthquake here - it woke dh up and I remember dreaming about an earthquake so I must have registered it.

Nellie - glad christening went well and lo was well-behaved.

Apricot - tummy bug sounds horrible, glad you're feeling better.

Stefka - sorry you're having a bad time with the sleeping

Gemma - enjoy Edinburgh, I've not been there for years but I remember it being a really nice city.

Hello to everybody I've not mentioned.

Weaning is going very well - we're onto purees now. Carrot and sweet potato so far and we're having pear today. She loves them - and her diet's much much healthier than mine !

18th september - Vaunda (aka TLES) - Zachary 18lb 7oz scoffing mashed bananas as often as poss along with whatever we re having for breakfast/lunch or dinner. plus formula feeds child number 2 9 yrs old......

26th September- Floria Tosca - baby boy - Alexander - weighed 16lb 9oz at almost 20wks - first baby - still exclusively bf - not weaning yet and little monkey refuses all attempts at giving him a bottle or a dummy too.

1st October - ejt1764 - baby girl - Mairwen - weighed 16lb 4oz at 20 weeks - child #2 also have ds Rhydian (5) - still exclusively bf - haven't started weaning yet, and Madam refuses all attempts at giving her a bottle or a dummy!

Strawberrylace ? 5 Oct ? baby boy Olly (first baby) ? weighed 15lb 5oz at 20 weeks ? still exclusively bf despite the thrush pain, and although he?s nosy about food, not onto weaning yet

Anyasmum - 7 Oct - baby girl Anya (first baby) - weighed 9lb 7oz at birth and 13lb 9oz at 18 weeks - bf until 8 weeks - has eyes bigger than stomach when it comes to food - not found anything so far that she doesn't love!

WinnieThePooh - 11th Oct baby girl Shula weighed 7lb 2oz at birth. 12lb 14.5oz at 19 weeks. Also got older daughter (6 in August). Shula is exclusively breast fed still.

MINE - 21st Oct, Eren was born at 7lb 11oz. He's 18 weeks today and weights 18lb 5oz. I had to stop bf at around 5 weeks as the poor mite was just too hungry and my supply was not strong enough to fill him nor was there enough of it full stop... i remember expressing for 30 mins and only got 1oz!! He has ben ff ever since and slept through since then too!! Have started weaning one meal a day but he still can put away 8oz too. Greedy monster! Eren is my first baby so this is all very new and exciting for me.

Dalrymps - 30th Oct baby boy Dylan weighed 6lb 5oz at birth. weight 10lb 14oz at 16 weeks. mix fed, occasionally nosey about food but not showing any signs of being ready to wean yet.

Inzidoodle - 3rd November girl Jane weighed 10lb 15oz at birth, weight at 14 weeks 13lb. FF after bfing failed, trying to hold off weaning until 6months although appetite is increasing!!

Muppet - 5th Nov - Henry - Weighed 16lb 10oz at 14 weeks (16 weeks now)- second son, 1st Oliver (nearly 4)- not weaning just having 9oz bottles.

I seem to have been missed off the latest list, so I have re added myself

18th september - Vaunda (aka TLES) - Zachary 18lb 7oz scoffing mashed bananas as often as poss along with whatever we re having for breakfast/lunch or dinner. plus formula feeds child number 2 9 yrs old......

26th September- Floria Tosca - baby boy - Alexander - weighed 16lb 9oz at almost 20wks - first baby - still exclusively bf - not weaning yet and little monkey refuses all attempts at giving him a bottle or a dummy too.

1st October - ejt1764 - baby girl - Mairwen - weighed 16lb 4oz at 20 weeks - child #2 also have ds Rhydian (5) - still exclusively bf - haven't started weaning yet, and Madam refuses all attempts at giving her a bottle or a dummy!

MrsFish - 5 Oct - baby boy, Ben - weighed 8lb 11 ounces at birth, last weighed at 18 weeks 17lbs 13 and a half ounces will be 20 wks on fri. Started weaning at 16 wks, he's on two feeds a day and 4 bottles. He is now in 6-9mth old clothes but not for much longer. Also got a 2:9 old Sam

Strawberrylace ? 5 Oct ? baby boy Olly (first baby) ? weighed 15lb 5oz at 20 weeks ? still exclusively bf despite the thrush pain, and although he?s nosy about food, not onto weaning yet

Anyasmum - 7 Oct - baby girl Anya (first baby) - weighed 9lb 7oz at birth and 13lb 9oz at 18 weeks - bf until 8 weeks - has eyes bigger than stomach when it comes to food - not found anything so far that she doesn't love!

WinnieThePooh - 11th Oct baby girl Shula weighed 7lb 2oz at birth. 12lb 14.5oz at 19 weeks. Also got older daughter (6 in August). Shula is exclusively breast fed still.

MINE - 21st Oct, Eren was born at 7lb 11oz. He's 18 weeks today and weights 18lb 5oz. I had to stop bf at around 5 weeks as the poor mite was just too hungry and my supply was not strong enough to fill him nor was there enough of it full stop... i remember expressing for 30 mins and only got 1oz!! He has ben ff ever since and slept through since then too!! Have started weaning one meal a day but he still can put away 8oz too. Greedy monster! Eren is my first baby so this is all very new and exciting for me.

Dalrymps - 30th Oct baby boy Dylan weighed 6lb 5oz at birth. weight 10lb 14oz at 16 weeks. mix fed, occasionally nosey about food but not showing any signs of being ready to wean yet.

Inzidoodle - 3rd November girl Jane weighed 10lb 15oz at birth, weight at 14 weeks 13lb. FF after bfing failed, trying to hold off weaning until 6months although appetite is increasing!!

Muppet - 5th Nov - Henry - Weighed 16lb 10oz at 14 weeks (16 weeks now)- second son, 1st Oliver (nearly 4)- not weaning just having 9oz bottles.

Les - I'll send a picture to you at some point today I'm intrigued.

18th september - Vaunda (aka TLES) - Zachary 18lb 7oz scoffing mashed bananas as often as poss along with whatever we re having for breakfast/lunch or dinner. plus formula feeds child number 2 9 yrs old......

26th September- Floria Tosca - baby boy - Alexander - weighed 16lb 9oz at almost 20wks - first baby - still exclusively bf - not weaning yet and little monkey refuses all attempts at giving him a bottle or a dummy too.

1st October - ejt1764 - baby girl - Mairwen - weighed 16lb 4oz at 20 weeks - child #2 also have ds Rhydian (5) - still exclusively bf - haven't started weaning yet, and Madam refuses all attempts at giving her a bottle or a dummy!

MrsFish - 5 Oct - baby boy, Ben - weighed 8lb 11 ounces at birth, last weighed at 18 weeks 17lbs 13 and a half ounces will be 20 wks on fri. Started weaning at 16 wks, he's on two feeds a day and 4 bottles. He is now in 6-9mth old clothes but not for much longer. Also got a 2:9 old Sam

Strawberrylace ? 5 Oct ? baby boy Olly (first baby) ? weighed 15lb 5oz at 20 weeks ? still exclusively bf despite the thrush pain, and although he?s nosy about food, not onto weaning yet

Anyasmum - 7 Oct - baby girl Anya (first baby) - weighed 9lb 7oz at birth and 13lb 9oz at 18 weeks - bf until 8 weeks - has eyes bigger than stomach when it comes to food - not found anything so far that she doesn't love!

WinnieThePooh - 11th Oct baby girl Shula weighed 7lb 2oz at birth. 12lb 14.5oz at 19 weeks. Also got older daughter (6 in August). Shula is exclusively breast fed still.

MINE - 21st Oct, Eren was born at 7lb 11oz. He's 18 weeks today and weights 18lb 5oz. I had to stop bf at around 5 weeks as the poor mite was just too hungry and my supply was not strong enough to fill him nor was there enough of it full stop... i remember expressing for 30 mins and only got 1oz!! He has ben ff ever since and slept through since then too!! Have started weaning one meal a day but he still can put away 8oz too. Greedy monster! Eren is my first baby so this is all very new and exciting for me.

Dalrymps - 30th Oct baby boy Dylan weighed 6lb 5oz at birth. weight 10lb 14oz at 16 weeks. mix fed, occasionally nosey about food but not showing any signs of being ready to wean yet.

Inzidoodle - 3rd November girl Jane weighed 10lb 15oz at birth, weight at 14 weeks 13lb. FF after bfing failed, trying to hold off weaning until 6months although appetite is increasing!!

Gemmamc - 3 November - boy weighing 16lb 5oz at 15 weeks. Still exclusively BF and refusing to take a bottle or dummy. Trying to hold off weaning as much as possible although he is starting to look interested in food. Sleeping not going very well - mummy v. tired...

Muppet - 5th Nov - Henry - Weighed 16lb 10oz at 14 weeks (16 weeks now)- second son, 1st Oliver (nearly 4)- not weaning just having 9oz bottles.

Anya, J20 you have your finished piccies, BUT need more colour in them peeps, the more colour the better. Hope you like what I have done and if you do thats great. Can do loads of diff things and am trying to build small file up of what I have done to make some money selling to others xxxx Will add 1 piccy to my profile for peeps to see....hmmm but that might spoil it......

Hello all ... just a quickie from me!

Lovely to hear from you Apricott! Sory to hear you've been under the weather - hope you feel better soon!

As for naps, Mairwen does some in her cot and some in her pram ... thats' where she is right now - I needed to go up to the greengrocer to get some veggies to put in tonight's tea!

She's a bit under the weather at the mo' - bu we're taking her swimming later this afternoon - picking Rhydian up from school and going to the new pool!

Ooo, must go, madam has awoken!

Sleep sense people - is it working for you? I just tried to make a start and gave in after fifteen minutes of full on screaming and fed him to sleep again. I feel like a total failure as I know that is the worst thing I could have done! He just does not settle when I go in after the five minutes though. How did it go for other people who are using this?

Thanks so much for sending it to me by the way

Also Floria I see you have modified it a bit - can you tell me what you did?

Inzi, glad you like it. I will do more for you when i have the time lol.....anyone else sending pics?

tLES; yes please..as soon as I can work out how to attatch pictures

Stefka; My adaptations are;
I dont put him to bed as early as the doc says, I work until 8pm 3 nights a week and he refuses to take a bottle so he can't have his last feed until 8/8.30...having said that for the past 2 nights he has been asleep for 7 and I have had to wake him to put him to bed .
I keep my old bedtime routine of bath, massage, sing and feed, but I don't let him feed to sleep.I feed him until he's almost asleep and put him down eyes almost shut but still not out for the count.
I DON'T leave him, but I sit by him until he is completely under and will continue singing if he really gets unsettled but stop when he is drifting off again.
When he starts to wake in the night I give myself a 5 minute window..actually its more usually 3 mins...if his grumbles are escalating at the 3 min stage I dont usually wait, I pick him up and feed him (again putting him back down before completely asleep)...if the grumbles remain constant I hold out, he usually then settles within my self imposed 5 min. limit....if not I will hum a lullaby or rock his Amby to reassure him until he settles down again..but I'm not really having to do that anymore, in fact last night I had to lift him at 4am to feed because I was so uncomfortable (engorged) I couldn't sleep!...
You watch we will have a complete reversal of our good habits tonight after me writing it all down!

ohhh does this sleep thing make me a bad mummy??? You all seem to have such perfect routines lol.

My evening goes....

6.30 feed and bottle, sleep until 8 when another bottle, then sleeps through until morning BUT I don't put him to bed he stays in living room with me in his chair or on sofa with me. If i do put him to bed it is when i go lol. but thats cos he sleeps with mummy.....but oh hum maybe i am spoiling him!!!!

HI all

Sorry this is a me me me post....

I'm sat here in my kitchen feeling really down as it was a year ago on sun that my friend died. (The one that committed sicide) It would have been her 39th birthday on wednesday...(yesterday) I have seen our other friends this week and they are struggling as much as me. I just cannot understand how she could do what she did. I understand that she was so ill and so down but I know it's selfish but I miss her...I wish I could have found the words that would have helped.

She had tried twice before as it turned out and this time it wasn't a cry for help as she booked into a hotel under a different name and stabbed herself. I cannot even begin to feel the mental anguish she must have been to do that to herself. I always have had a nagging thought as to what if she changed her mind and it was too late?

She left behind so many friends, her mum who is distraught and now ill herself, 2 brothers a husband but most of all her 2 gorgeous boys whom she adored when she was well. I saw her 2 days before she died and she looked a little better but she said that she felt nothing for the boys and I think this was the last straw. She kept asking me whether she would get the feelings back for them and I told her that she might but she may not and I really really wish I hadn't said that. I know it wasn't my fault I just wish I'd realised she was that ill as I would have never said that about the boys. I wish I'd told her about Henry...I'd just found out but didn't tell her.

She was lovely, beautiful, a fantastic mum and I miss her x

muppet-{{{{big hugs}}}}} sweetie, poor you, you know of course there is nothing you could have done to make a differece, although you will always be plagued with what ifs.. its a natural grieving process that you must get through the best you can unfortunately.

i don't know what else to say, are you/could you and your other friends perhaps mark the anniversary with something? a get together maybe, to talk about her if you think it would help, as you say, everyone else is feeling down about it, so you could probably all do to get it all out and who best to do it with than others who loved and miss her. sorry, i'm not very good at these things, didn't want to leave you unanswered though, i'm thinking of you xx

inzi- that you may still have something inside you, sue the b**tards, not only might it have caused you damage{god forbid!} but it may help stop it happening to others.

Les-thank you so much for the pics! i will try to get round to sending you a better one but the little minx refuses to smile when a camera is in the vicinity.

sorry but i've gotta go to bed, will try and get on in morning, love to you all xxx

Oh Muppet I'm so sorry..for your loss, for her families loss, for her poor sons but especially for her..that the place she was in was so bad she felt that she didnt want to carry on. From what little I understand of depression there is little or nothing anyone can say to make things "better"...if someone is determined to "end it all" they will no matter what...it is such a shame their illness blinds them to the impact their loss will make on those that love them.
I'm sure her beauty inner and outer lives on in her sons and the lovely memories she left with you all.

I am so sorry muppet - what a horrible thing to be dealing with. Perhaps you can do something nice for yourself to honour both her memory and you.

Floria - thanks for explaining what you do. So are you essentially singing him to sleep? I tried putting Dareh to bed awake last night and he just screamed. I really want him to be able to fall asleep without the boob though.

Just had to moan that my DH woke me up at 7 today even though Dareh was still by some miracle asleep - I could have been sleeping!!!

Stefka: I'm using all the props of bath, massage,feed and singing...even rocking the Amby to get him to the point where he is about to sleep...the routine tells him that it is time for sleep...but they all stop just a he is dropping off so he is essentially getting to sleep by himself...it means that when wakes in the night now he is able to go back to sleep without the props ... I reintroduce the singing prop only if he is struggling to settle. Alex was using the boob as his prop and frankly I'm amazed how quickly he has learned to get himself to sleep and/or accept the humming as a substitute...I suppose the fact that I have always been singing lullabies as he had his last feed helped and I was just lucky getting the timing of when to put him down just right those first few nights...getting him to sleep in the first place has never been our issue really, it was the perpetual waking and needing to feed to get back down again.
Last night was a 1.30 grumble for 4 mins, a stirring at 4am which I used as my excuse to get some relief from leaking boobs (sorry if TMI)and 6.30 wake up though he wasn't actually hungry until 8am. Not as good as it has been but not too bad.
I hope you gave your DH a swift kick for waking you when you could have been catching up on much needed sleep!
I do hope you can find a method that works for you soon.

Alex has just drifted off to sleep again in his rainforest gym ..I think it is the frog/bird/waterfall sounds that does it I had better go and pick him up so he wakes in his cot... and take advantage of the peace to get a shower.

Muppet - sorry so about your friend. you must be feeling awful - but nothing you could've said or done would bring someone back when they have absolutely reached that point. I hope you have a better day today.
Inzi - that sounds a nightmare about your infection. I hope that it is something they can get sorted for you as soon as possible now they have finally decided to do something
Stekfa - i don't sing my DS to sleep (he would probably wake up from the awful sound!) but i do have a musical lightshow that we play him as a signal for sleep.... How annoying that you were woken up!
LES - our DS often falls asleep downstairs and comes to bed with us too!
He fell asleep on the bed after his morning feed a couple of hours ago, so I am running around doing jobs while he is still quiet! Hope you all have a good weekend - i am off to meet a mum friend in town this afternoon and then SIL and her bf are coming tomorrow