Oct 2007 - This little piggy had none (sleep that is!)

[alicet]

Hello ladies!

Well here is the new thread so I can link it before the old one runs out... Hope you all find it!

Sorry that should say I used to b/f!

Muppet, so when are you going for three???

Well, dh is not entirely convinced but he did say in a couple of years maybe. I said that if we were going for no3 then I would want to be prg by 35 -I'm 32 atm - as I don't want more than a 6/7 year gap with Ollie. Henry has just shown me what being a mummy can feel like and I love it! He's so fab. He's the one who gave me the second chance to get it right adn has sown me that I was ill after having Ollie and what I was feeling wasn't normal or my fault.

Muppet - thats great you feel like that[smie], our original plan is to have 3 althogh i got excited yesterday and told him that making babies is so wonderful i'd have 5 - he wasn't so sure about 5, more shocked , he has however agreed to trying for number 2 when dylan is about 18 month to 2 years old . You said earlier you were sad about not bf anymore... any particular reason? when did you stop and why if you don't mind me being nosey?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LES!!!!!!

Just gonna feed dylan, back soon

I stopped because I really couldn't keep up with him after b/f every 2-3 hrs on New Years day. Oliver is very demanding, not in a I want your attention now and I'll scream until I get it way, more that he would go for a poo whilst I was feeding, stick his face right into Henry's start jumping on the sofa and I was feeling like I was fighting him all the time. I do miss it though. I tried to b/f in the morning and last thing at night but I was feeling like I was drugged with tiredness in the morning and was in bed till the last minute so I missed out there and when I got the boys ready for bed he seemed so chilled that I thought I would wake him up again.

I've just realised this makes me sound really selfish....

I do miss it. This evening I really wanted to feed him, more for the closeness I think than anything else.

you don't sound selfish at all! you sound like you're doing your best to look after 2 children nothing wrong with stopping for the reasons you did, fully understandable, at least you've had the experience of bf henry, i think you'd miss it even if you'd stopped when he was 2, it's a nice thing to do and look back on. You've given him a good start in life

Good luck Choc

Muppet you're not selfish at all. There is much more to being a good mummy than bf (as ejt told me when I was agonising about stopping) and dal is right - with what you have managed you have given him a great start. And as I found the decision is more complex when you have 2 - you can't just think about what is right for number 2 - it has to work for the whole family.

On the subject of number 3 I have to admit I did have a moment today when I thought 'I want another baby'!!!!! Then immediately afterwards thought 'OMG where on earth did that come from?!?!?!' Not entirely sure I do really - think I was just feeling a bit wistful as Adam is so not a newborn anymore. And I love him and Sam SO SO SO much. Not going to even THINK about mentioning this fleeting thought to dh though or I think he'd run off and have the snip!

Thanks Dal I think you're right about feeling this way no matter how long I'd b/f him for. It's amazing, and strange, how different an experience it can be having 2 children. Today DH fed Henry and put him back in his car seat when were at the gym. I took him out and just held him till he went to sleep. He went to sleep looking at me and that was the most mind blowing feeling. He loves me in a way Oliver never did. He is comforted by me when I pick him up, he looks at me where ever I am in a room and he prefers my cuddles, my smell (he still turns to root at my boob) my touch to anyone elses and it makes me feel so special. Oliver did/does things his own way and seemed agrivated by everyone. (He's much more tactile now, asking for kisses, cuddles etc) I suppose by not b/f him a bit of me feels that I will lose some of this. Maybe I feel I'll lose a little of him...

Gosh I'm all emotional now!

you won't loose anything! there are so many ways to be close to him, you could have baths together or cuddle in bed, you're his mummy and as far as he's concerned everything you do is wonderful

Same here alicet

Oh my, Ben has just had a 9oz bottle that is 36oz today and a decent amount of baby porridge too. He is just dozing off on the sofa so I had better put him to bed. He has been quite unsettled today quite a lot of screaming fits which I'm not used too, I wonder whether its the antibiotics he has started today? Today is also the first day of the hydrocortisone cream, he has hated me putting it on but dare I say I can see a slight improvement already this evening.

I'm looking forward to the York meet now, especially seeing as I only have to deal with Ben now. Although I would have liked you all to meet Sam because he is fab [

Hope you all have a good weekend

Mrs Fish - Henry is on his 4th set of AB's for his eyes (still!!!) he tends to get very runny nappies that are up the back.

Dal - the bath idea is a good one, I never did anything like that with Oliver. I can understand why you've fought tooth and nail to carry on b/f.

muppetgirl - Ben's nappies are like that too atm, every nappy has poo in it and at least once a day they are coming right out the back, yesterday I must have used 10 nappies and today has only been marginally better, they are also very runny and bright yellow not sure why as they have been like it for a few days now, before I started with the antibiotics?

yeah bf is something that brings up a lot of emotions isn't it, never imagined i'd feel how i do about it, it's 100 times harder than i thought it would be in ways i'd never imagined. There have been quite a few times i've thought about stopping but something is keeping me going for now

Oh god, just watched Jam and Jeruslem and was fab. Always wanted a village wedding myself...
It's Dh's and mine's 5th wedding anniversary this year and I would love a marquee in a field with a big bonfire and all our friends round to celebrate. I'm sure there is a pagan in me desperate to get out!!!

Dal - I would never criticise any mummy for the way they choose to feed their lo. Having 2 very different experiences with b/f I am very much a go with flow girlie. I just never thought I would feel this way. I stay away from the b/f threads on here....

yeah i feel much the same, i used to get quite wound up if he wouldn't bf and i had to give him some formula but now i just get on with it and give him the formula rather than stressing, the way i see it, as long as he gets enough milk it doesn't matter if it's formula or breastmilk as long as he isn't hungry.

Hi everyone,
Can't believe some of you are already thinking about LO 2 or 3!! I'm still getting to grips with number 1! I know it sounds silly but I adore DD so much I can't imagine loving another baby as much....I'm slightly worried that if I had a 2nd I wouldn't love it as much as DD. Does that sound mad? Anyway, I'm generally to tired and pissed off with DP to even consider having another baby with him these days!

I'm feeling v uplifted today as I ordered some sexy nursing bras from an Australian website a few weeks ago. They finally showed up today and they're brilliant! Really sexy, supportive and lovely but still with the easy drop down cups for convenient. They're making me think I might carry on b/f past 6 months (I'd never have thought I'd be saying that a few months ago when I was struggling with cracked nipples, mastitis etc).

Got to go...screaming baby needs feeding.

X

Happy Birthday tLES!!! Hope it has been a great one

Muppet; About your lab; How true this is I cannot tell you, but one of the other trainers at my dog club says that in a wolf pack only the alpha male and female mate and have pups, the rest of the pack are junior and take on the role of aunties and uncles, baby sitting and cleaning up the den so no excrement can attract predators....the domesticated dog can sometimes revert to such instinctive behaviour when there is a "pup" in the pack....She only told me this recently because I was grossed out when my dog tried to clean out the potty (eeeew!!! [cringe emoticon])while I was putting Alex clean nappy on.....So your lab is only trying to protect the family by cleaning up after himself...if it is true

We had a lovely hour at bounce and rhyme today Alex was exhausted afterward (probably from all the flirting he was doing with the little girl next to us)and has been an angel all afternoon...which probably means we will have a dreadful night...right I'm off to bed so I can cope Goodnight all!

Floria - that would make sense as Dex is definately the lowest of the low when it comes to the two dogs. Apparently his 'weeing like a girl' is due to hierarchy as the lower the wee, the less masculine the dog as he is not wanting to draw attention to himself. The Jack Russell cocks his leg merrily and doesn't care who sniffs it Dex dodges other dogs -even puppies! He won't eat his dinner if Stanley hovers round his bowl -we have to tell Stan to take a hike. The behaviourist said that we would have a big ding dong and Stan would be top dog but I really don't think we'll even have the ding dong, Dex just isn't aggresive in that way.
He does have the most frightening bark though and, as Dh says, barks when people fart in the street

morning, been up since 5.40 and her ladyship will just not go back to sleep, she's got a temp from her jabs on thur and is grumpy, after i took her to pub last night to cheer her up as well!

re;hungry baby milk, i paid 30p more for a total of 1 calorie per 100ml extra and a bigger scoup so the tin gets used quicker, hmm, marketing gimmick i think, plus its got less omega stuff in.

have a nice day all

I am also shocked at people already thinking about the next baby! You are brave! I still haven't recovered from the first one.

Dareh had me up half the night again. Won't sleep during the day and won't go longer than three hours at night. I hope this ends soon as I am so tired I feel ill.

Started writing this yesterday - never got time to finish it!

Happy birthday LES for yesterday!!

DD's suffering a bit with teething. She wasn't happy about being left with my parents Thursday night - she cried herself to sleep a couple of times - but everybody survived. We've decided we're going to start leaving her with them regularly but just for an hour at a time so that she gets used to it.

Yesterday was really hard work - she was very unsettled all day . Her gums must have been sore so it hurt her to eat and she just got really fed up and whingey so she wouldn't sleep properly either. I put plenty of teething gel on but it doesn't seem to work for very long - it says you can reapply after 20 mins - so it's not having much of an effect.

Saw the GP yesterday afternoon - she said just to give her Calpol until her tooth's come through, and if that's a few days or a week that's fine. Not sure I'm comfortable doing that every time she cuts a tooth - she could be on Calpol for weeks/months at that rate. GP didn't really know much about teething powders/granules as they're not available on prescription. I asked the pharmacist instead but they didn't know anything either, and they didn't have any in stock anyway. (Why don't we have a confused/exasperated emoticon?)

Anyway, gave Calpol last night and this morning and so far so good. FYI GP explained how to work out Calpol dose for babies - this is how hospitals do it. Take their weight in kg and multiply by 15. This gives paracetamol dose in mg (not to be confused with Calpol dose in ml!!) So Anya's 6kg so that's 90mg of paracetamol per dose (4 x day). Calpol has 120mg per 5ml (says this on bottle) so that's 3.75ml per dose for her. You can get syringe from chemist to measure it accurately.

Not read all posts yet - will catch up. Hello to all in meantime!

Inzi - just read that you're trying the teething powders. Which ones are you using and are they working?

Mine - sorry to hear about your dad.

Nellie - well done with the toilet training!

Muppet - my parents used to have a great dane who went through a phase of eating his own poo. They read somewhere that if you put pineapple in their food it makes the poo taste really disgusting (!!!) so they won't eat it - and that did work wonders.

Brave people talking about number 3! I would love another (because being a mummy is amazing ) but I daren't broach the subject with dh yet - he's stressed enough already!

very quick one - anya, get nelson's teething powders. they're homeopathic and god only knows what's in them but they are amazing! and nothing dangerous for LO. Boots and most chemists have them- also we found that baby nurofen worked faster with teething pain than calpol.....hope she's ok.

thanks so much to everyone for b/f advice - will be back on later to talk more. really appreciated it though.