October '04 babies - Roll call!

[florenceuk]

OK, here is the list I have so far:

Eyelash (age 36) - DS3 arrived 5 October
Toots (age 37) - DD1 3 - DD2 arrived 5 October
Cazzybabs - DD born 7 October
sooz31 - DD arrived 7 October
Distracted - DS arrived 9 October
florenceuk (age 38) - DS 3 - DD arrived 13 October
Huppa, (age 37) dd now 21months - DS born 14 October
Bibiboo (age 25) DD arrived 15 October
Rickman - DS arrived 16 October
geoteach (age 33) - ds1 3 dd 10 months, DS2 born 16 October
Nailpolish - DD2 arrived 17 October
Piglit (age 36) - DS born 19 October
Miffy2 (age 35) - 22nd October dd 5 DS1 2 - DS2 arrived 22 October
Beansprout (age 35???) - 1 dsd (16). DS born 25 October
Bellie - DD arrived 30 October
Turtle35 (age 35) - DD arrived 31 October

I've taken this from the old pregnancy thread so there are some odd bits of info floating round eg age and other children. Excuse me if I've got any of this wrong, as my sleep-deprived brain barely capable of putting this list together! Any amendments please speak now, and we can start the new thread!

Bean and Bellie, that sounds fantastic. Feeling very envious, DD woke up at 11, 1, 4, and 6 with extensive feeding sessions in between - zzz. Actually I should have just kept her latched on all night without trying to put her in her cot - I would have got more sleep! She still seems very bunged up and snotty, and doing lots of bobbing on and off the breast - ugh. Poor thing! Still gave us all a big smile this morning - she's slowly becoming a real person (only very slowly).

BTW had very nice b'day party for DS at "Its a Kid's Thing" soft play area in Earlsfield - the food was actually OK, even coffee was passable! House is now even more stuffed full with bits of plastic junk though...

BTW teatime - I rely heavily on the freezer and also try and force a few bits of broccoli down DS - as veg aren't a big part of his diet. Peas, sweetcorn, broccoli and the occasional carrot are about it. But I fail miserably on running the bath/bedtime routine on my own - usually stuff DD in the sling, and let her wail on my chest while I microwave something!

Hi guys,

Just noticed this thread so hope you don't mind if I join you.

DS1 is nearly four and DS2 was born on oct. 14th so it is nice to see how everyone else is getting on !

DS2 was only waking twice during the night but last both DS wre up three times each (DS1 hasn't woken for two years) so I am feeling the strain this morning, to make it worse I woke late and had to hotfoot it to get DS1 to nursery on time !

Hi Pedilia - you are very, very welcome and congratulations on the birth of ds2 How was the birth? Our stories are over on the birth annoucements thread but please feel free to supply us with all the gory details!

Florence - ouch. You must be exhausted. Hope tonight is better for you.

Am taking Bean out this morning. Am losing that first-time-mum-"what if he cries or something while we are out?" stuff so am feeling like I have just a tad more freedom. That and feeling physically better which boy, helps a lot. Have decided that today will be a good day (if it kills me!)

Birth was perfect 11/2 hour labour and no time for any painkillers, what a difference DS1 was a thirty hour labour with every drug available !!

Only mishap was DH running out of petrol on the motorway on the way home with DS2 at 2am, we didi have words !

Oops looks like I told everyone too soon that dd was sleeping through! Last night she threw up everywhere for the first time - in fact twice! First over me and then an hour later over dh and the bed! She finally went down at midnight and then was awake at 3 and then 6 - so I guess I have a 'normal' dd after all - and there I was getting used to sleeping for 6or7 hours straight!

She is also taking about 2 hours to feed (from expressed and formula bottles) is this normal? She drinks about 3 oz in 20 mins and then takes another oz in the remaining 1hour 20 minutes - not sure how to change this one??? Any advice?

Thought this may be interesting for us? It is a report that concludes that if babies have more exposure to daylight they sleep better at night. Has to be worth a go!!

So far so pretty good today. Last night I kept Bean in a pretty dark bedroom from 9pm, just feeding him, with some cuddles and he slept from 11.30 rather than the 1-1.30am we had all last week. This meant that dp slept with us rather than having to slope off to the other bedroom. Will be doing the same tonight...fingers crossed.

Had quite a good day today. Went to friends for breakfast and ds slept the whole time while dd played with the other kids, so managed a leisurely start to the day. Things went a bit downhill afterwards. DD doesn´t understand that saying "Ssshhh" with her fingers to her lips doesn´t really help when she´s banging something loudly with her other hand while ds is trying to get to sleep.

Bellie - I´m bf so no expert and probably talking rubbish, but it sounds like she probably getting all she needs for her hunger in the first 20 minutes and then comfort sucking for the rest of the time (not sure this is possible with a bottle -as I say I´m probably talking nonsense). What happens if you stop the feed after 20 minutes, does she cry for more or does she need her next feed much sooner? Have to say I´d get pretty fed up if each feed was taking that long.
Hope someone with more ideas than me can help you.

Good luck tonight Bean.

Pedilia - welcome and congratulations on the birth of ds2, glad you've joined us. The petrol thing will come back to haunt dh for the rest of his and ds2's life I expect! My dd1, just 3 is offending in the sleep stakes too having been a wonderful sleeper. Have done a star chart and promised some sleeping beauty pageant thing if she can stay quiet 'til getting up time when a light comes on at 6.45. Only went t*ts up twice last week, so that's an improvement.

Bellie - I'm inclined to agree with Distracted. Sounds like she only needs the first 3oz. Hope sleep gets back on track.

Florence - That night sounds really grim. Hope things better since.

Beansprout - so that's why people used to put babies out in the garden in their prams. Might give it a whirl. Hope you get your earlier bedtime again tonight. Personally I'm delighted that dp is in another room at the moment, it's not forever, and it's nice not to be being woken up by two people.

When I put dd2 in her cot tonight, she looked really relieved and like it was what she was expecting which was lovely. Mind you, the four preceeding hours were taken up with she's tired, she needs to sleep, but she's a bit too hungry, so she feeds, but she's a bit too sleepy, so she falls asleep, so I put her down, and she cries because she's a bit too hungry....and repeat,and repeat and repeat, whilst trying to bake flaming dinosaur biscuits with dd1, and trying not to scream. Failed as it goes

Hi all - thanks for the advice about the first 3 oz. I will try taking the bottle away after that and see what happens. I sort of tried it last night and we had lots of screaming until I caved in and then gave her the bottle back again - however she only wanted 1/2oz and then went to sleep quite quickly. Must persevere!
Hope you get some more sleep tonight Bean!
Toots hope things improve with dd2 tonight!

Welcome dimitrimom - this site is a godsend and welcome to your ds!

Hi everyone. Good day today. We reached the holy grail last night with Bean actually sleeping through the night. Sort of by accident. He woke up at his usual time for feeding but by the time I had popped to the toilet, he was asleep again so I left him and he went back to sleep so he basically slept from 12-7. Am not counting my chickens though. Was great to have the energy to go over to a friend's house for a top afternoon of babies drinking milk and mums eating chocolate . Blessed are the good days when we have them. Naturally Bean is having an absolute hissy fit at the moment but dp is dealing with that!!

Hope everyone else is ok.

Hi Dimitrimon - took me so long to post that I didn't see your message! Welcome to the October strand. Good to have you here.

BTW - where's our Turtle? You ok?

hi everyone,

such a relief to know your not the onl one up at 2am !

Ds is thriving and a really happy chappy. It is DS1 thar has started to play up, bless him it is only to be expected.

dmitrimom-i feel for you lol & hugs, ds2 was born on the 14th,his due date to everyones suprise. keep strong

Hi to everyone who is new.
Am I the only one who's DS hasn't slept through yet? The really gutting part is that he doesn't sleep nearly as much during the day now either. Strange observations that I have made, he is quite settled lying on the dining room table, we have more settled evenings if he has a bath.
Anyone else going to join me and Bellie for a meetup on the 7th? See the meet up thread.

geogteach,

you are def not the only one whos not sleeping through although ds is nearly there. getting better every night. not really helped by dh, well meaning and a diamond but wants ds to fall asleep on his chest evry night, i think i've won that one though and ds is firmly ensconsed in moses !!

Love to meet-up where is the thread ?

Hello - I am properly back as internet access restored. Feel like I have missed loads. DD2 is fine and putting on weight. Still not great at sleeping in her cot but is getting better (fingers very firmly crossed!). I am fine but off to a wedding this weekend where dd1 is a flower girl, but I have nothing to wear as am still fat. Its mainly my thighs which seemed to double in size with this pregnancy so I will have to buy something which is depressing.

Welcome back Cazzybabs and hi to the newbies! geogteach, DD is a long way off sleeping through - although went 12-4-8 last night (the 2hr feeding/sucking sessions are another thing though - I worked out I got 4hrs sleep last night...). Have been practicing putting her in her cot half asleep which works sometimes, not others. Have also been experimenting with bath, and more frequent feeds in the evening (full feed at 5pm, then bath, then another feed at 7pm) and she still screamed but did eventually go off at 9pm. Finally had her weighed on Monday and she is trundling along on the 25th percentile - just like her big bro did!

Anyway, off for a chocolate biscuit before DD wakes again...

Mornin'. Please add me to the list - son Josh born on 21st October.

For the record, he's going down nicely for a three-hour sleep at our other son's (4) bed-time - 7:30ish. Which, blissfully, gives us a reasonable evening - always the important bit for me.

Take care, all.

Currently wollowing in the fact that DS1 is at pre-school, other 2 are asleep and the cleaners are here so I can't do anything useful!
Last night DS went down at 8 up again half 11, 3, fussed between 5 and 7 then up for the day at 8 thinl he is following his sisters pattern and she didn't sleep through until 10 months!
Spoke too soon, DS2 is awake.
Meet up is Reigate 7th Dec, see the meet up thread if you are interested.

I don't think we're anywhere near to sleeping through yet either, although we have generally improved, as he used to do 12-3-6, with the odd night of 11-2-5. Now we're generally doing something like 12-4-7, which is more civilised. Bit of a way to go though yet (my dd started taking her night feed between 5-6 am at this stage (ie. 6-8 weeks) and slept through from 11-6/7 by 8 weeks, which was fantastic, but I know we won't achieve that with ds. She also fed 4-hourly through the day where he is 3-hourly so has one more feed per day than she did).

Last night wasn't good though - I've got a cold and slept really poorly anyway up to the 4 am night feed. That didn't take too long, but I had only just got back to sleep at 5 am when ds started screaming. He wasn't hungry, but seemed colicky and we only eventually got him to stop crying at 6 am by putting him in bed with us on his tummy I know, shouldn't do it and I didn't really go back to sleep after that as was so worried about him, kept having 5 minute dozes then checking on him. It was better than him screaming though, which he did in every other position, including on my chest. Fortunately didn't wake dd up during his 1 hour of crying.

Good days and not so good days....
Today Bean has mostly been crying (since 5am). I am knackered as I haven't had much sleep. Plus had to go for BCG jab this morning. Waited an hour, (which he spent crying) and then had that uniquely miserable experience of holding my already upset son while someone hurt him some more .

Dp out with his daughter later so no respite for a good few hours yet. Boo. Have been inspired by Florence though and am going to try a nice biscuit

Beansprout - you said 'son', you're a mummy. Sorry, sure that's extremely obvious, but it seems like only yesterday that you were a pregnant lady, albeit really quite a pregnant lady for some good (bad) time. So sorry you had such a rotten screamy early start. How is he now after the jab. Makes you cry don't it? . Just imagining if different scenario worse or better: Bean, full of smiles and giggles gets stuck by needle. Whichever way you slice it, it's a doozy.

Sending everyone vibes for a good night. We went out with the pushchair at lunchtime for some melatonin, so should be fine . I might have a soak and read a bit more of my book about the man on a deep sea trawler. Things my way must be looking up, as he definitely seems to be having a worse time than me, and that didn't seem to be the case a couple of weeks ago.

dd2 has put on 5oz this week - maybe down to the fenugreek. She has slid down the chart though, and is now between the 0.4th and 2nd. Bit sad, but just keep on feeding, and taking the supplements.

Oh Bean what a horrible day! Hope you have a good night to make up for it.

Bean, hope your day today is a bit better? What is the BCG jab or have I missed something in my lax non-attendance of health clinics.

DD did 12-4-7 last night, so let's hope there is a pattern emerging. She seems very sleepy today - just awake enough to feed and have a change, and then started whinging and whining so I have put her to bed again. A bit tricky this morning as she was desperate for bed but we had to leave house in half an hour to take DS to nursery - poor thing wailed and wailed in the car. She has not yet got the trick of sleeping in car seat or buggy, but prefers to be cuddled to sleep and then gingerly placed in cot...

Toots, good news on the weight gain.

Whoops, DD up again - must have been a power nap...