May 07 - The one where some of us are already knocked up again...

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Im sure she hasnt got a squint PinkJ!Drs say the oddest things sometimes..

PMSL at the chandeliers..

BTW AM, you were saying about J's sleep..is he up alot in the night time then? because L has woken up twice a night for the last two weeks or so and it takes ages to get her back off..its sriving me mental, especially as M sleep pretty much 7 till 7..it just doesnt seem fair to be up with the big one who should really be asleep..

Poor you Scoot. I'm dreading doing the "talk" at work, but luckily I'm just telling them I'm not coming back. Or at least, probably am. I'm waiting for HR to come back to me to tell me how long I'd have to be back in the office for in order to qualify for SMP, which in turn would qualify me for another 6 months on full pay. I've got to work out if it's worth maybe having to get a temp nanny in order to do a couple of months and get the money. I'd feel a bit like I was taking the piss though. Depending on what HR say, I might be able to say to my boss that I don't want to mess them about coming back for a couple of months and ask if there's any chance they'd make me redundant.
On the other hand, if I'd have to work (bearing in mind I plan to be in Australia for a month around the time I'm supposed to be back...) I might just have to throw in the towel. The idea always was that I wouldn't go back. It's just all that money...

Oooh and I got a letter today to say I'd be paid my bonus, which was, well, a big f-off bonus. Didn't think I'd get it!

Anyway, I'm rambling. What I was going to say is that I dread having those face-to-face "chats". Eeeek. It's so daunting.

Also, sterilising. WAAAHHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHAA. Are you mad? The babies are crawling around the floor and sticking who-knows-what in their mouths. Ever since A went on bottles, I have been washing very carefully with hot soapy water and rinsing in very hot water, air dry on kitchen paper. There's no need to sterilise even for tiny babies, some say. UCLH micro-biologists say it's better for them to be "colonised" by the bacteria in their own homes. All traces of milk must be removed, because bad bacteria can grow in that, but the bacteria around your home is, generally speaking, safe. (Assuming you're not silly enough to handle raw meat and then the bottles without washing your hands, etc.) In fact, there is a school of thought that thinks that the prevalence of allergies today could be linked to the over-sterilisation of things for babies, which stops their immune system from strengthening.

Also, would M take mashed food rather than purée now? My friend has a 9 month old who has been on puree and jars since 6 months. She only started trying to introduce lumps and he won't have it. Seems she needed to introduced mashed/ lumpier food at about 7 months, before he got too used to the purée. Just a thought...

Sterilize?? What is that nonsense all about.

Dishwashing the bottles is like putting them in a giant steam steriliser, which I believe is what most people in the US do? (Is that right M22LB?)

You can even buy dishwasher baskets for the stuff.

Word of warning - DO NOT put them in with the dishes from your bolognaise/ marinara type dinner (unless you rinse first). You WILL make the teats and lids orange.

(Yes I am that stupid.)

ha ha yes Archie has several orange tinged teats.

Scoot, I STILL have those dresses that you forgot to pick up from the post office, ooh, this time last year... Shall I send them to your new address or something?

JW so sorry to hear about that poor baby. Can't even begin to think what the parents are going through.

PinkJ, doctors tend to be full of s**t. Mine told me she thought C might 'have visual problems' because she wasn't at all intersted in following a red brick that was dangled in front of her face. She was however, tired, needing changed and very hungry. I knew there wasn't a problem, would she listen, NOPE! LW - 1 Doctor - 0!

Scoot, I'm still sterilising though I hate it! I'm not anal about it though the way my parents are. I get a ruddy big row if I don't do them, but I was thinking that she was nearly 8 months, crawling and picking up all sorts and putting it in her mouth etc. Therefore maybe everything didn't need to be sterilised all the time. I mean, I thought it might be good for her system to not do it all the time, kind of like what TYG was saying.

TYG and JW hope you ladies are ok, as are beans. LG&T sending you getting preggers soon vibes

Is soh getting a pig?

Was at Pebble Patch toddler group today for a couple of hours which was great, quite quiet today which gave all us mums a chance to talk for a change. Have finished mass clearout, and tidied up. House looks spotless, except the kitchen. I'm blooody knackered lol. C is so tiring, the running after her all the time is so exhausting, but still fun. Had her weighed on Monday and she's now a hefty little biffa weighing in at 18lbs 3oz. She's gained a lot recently.

Off to bed now, too tired. Got to get up early and go running. Detox still going really well. Night all

Yup, TYG you are correct on that. Well they say that if we have public water that has been filtered we don't have to. IF we have well water (private water that hasn't been treated) they recommend that we sterilize, but no one really does.

LGT havent yet done bankrupcy, have printed off all the forms but am awaiting a call from payplan to see if there is any other option - i have been left some money from gdad, not that i get it for about 9 months but it would be a shame to loose it all if there is any way around it

AM you need a donut for some energy

Scoot, i am half heartidly sterilising, if i need a bottle and they are not done then i dont bother doing it

TYG well done on the bonus

I have been up since stupid o'clock as A has decided he wanted to chat - also finished a whole bottle so that might have something to do with it, ant believe it he has slept through since 4 months, possible growth spurt me thinks

Firstly i should be getting them ready for school (bad mommy)

Secondly SOOT you are broody... you are after my title of maddest woman on MN arent ya? >

TYG i see what you mean about the money thing, send A to live with me for a couple of months I too have a few orange teats

AM it must be very hard rushing round getting them ready for nursery and then dashing off to work. Rest soon with just the kids to watch

Pink, Jacob had a squint but they didnt pick it up till he was 2. I had noticed it way before then though it was very obvious. He had a n operation to straighten it when he was 5 and is squint free now. Dont worry my lovely i'm pretty sure if she had one you would have seen it. It used to get much worse with him when he was really tired. You are not persecuted. Did you call me the other day?

Latinomom i think 2 more if all is smooth sailing with this next one. If it all goes Pete Tong again with the baby trying toescape at 32 weeks and an awful delivery then it will be 1!!! I am hoping for twins
Right am off to shout round up the children.

Eight children... My nana had eight. She was saying to me on the phone when I told her I was pregnant, that there were 13 months between one of my aunts and the twins. Said she'd laugh her head off if I had twins.

3 under 2...

And no Phil and Ted's or triple mountain buggies in the 50's. I wonder how she crammed them all on the pram? Must ask.

LG&T its official, you are bonkers Eight children!!!!!

As i try to type Alana is scrambling over my shoulder to try to pinch Ethan's fudge, will try to catch up in a bit

Ah TYG you would be ok, it's easy You would be like i was but the other way round. The twins were 20 months when i had dd.

I have aconsultant appointment for dd next week. She has been seen by the school nurse and is short for her age but heavy. They are linking it all to her learning difficulties at school. I think personally she is just short because i am and so is half of exp family. His mum is only 4'11 and my sis is only 5'1. She is emotionally behind too and it is starting to become more obvious now her peers are racing ahead of her We will see what they say, but i will not be bamboozled in to making rash diagnosis on her when she could just be a short ass that is a bit dim Bless her. At least she is cute

Beau is a Tazmanian devil, he is blowing raspberries endlessly and spinning around the front room. He did at least nap yesterday, must be all the excertion

TYG your Nana sounds like my kinda lady!
You will need one of these, hehe

jesus lg&t (jw faints clean away) imagine 3 of them breastfeeding at the same time.

LOL Jw

LG&T..She certainly is cute. Princess P amongst all her Princes.

TYG glad you got your bonus, You blimin deserved it lady!!

Am absolutely fed up with H & M. They do nothing but argue from the second they see each other.

Oh well Alana has just had her nap 5mins tops, all i had time to do was go to the loo and make E a drink. Her lack of sleeping during the day is driving me mad now. Ive got a pile of ironing that needs doing but all i manage to do is switch the iron on and maybe iron two bits before she wakes, she then wants to be playing with me so off goes the iron. Dh is no help at all, he just moans about the fact i havent sorted out the old toys/clothes yet, done any ironing etc while he lies in bed watching the bloody stargate dvd's i bought him over a year ago He is also moaning our sex life has gone rapidly down hill, he expects me to drop everything when he wants yet if i dont do any of the jobs that needs doing he moans, i cant win. I even had him storm out of the bedroom last night just because I didnt appreciate it when he woke me up at 4am for a bit of nookie, I'd only gone to sleep about 1.45 and was tired. When i told hi i wasnt in the mood he grabbed the spare quilt and went to sleep on the sofa. I dont have the luxury of being able to stay in bed all day to catch up on sleep like him, im the idiot who is up everyday at 6.30am regardless of how much sleep ive had so is it so wrong that id like to get some sleep in while the kids are asleep. Maybe if he helped out more I wouldnt feel so tired all the time. He even moaned at me yesterday because i chose to eat lunch in peace while A had a quick nap instead of jumping on him, id already skipped breakfast and was starving but obviously im not allowed to eat or take 5mins out of running around trying to keep everyone else happy.

In case you havent guessed im a bit peeved with dh at the moment lol

MrsJB its not a phase E&J have been like for about 2yrs and its getting worse. I had hoped that the big age gap (6yrs) would have helped but obviously not. They are always callng each other names and making horrible comments. It drives me mad and its usually E that starts it, feel like banging their heads together sometimes lol

Pebble, you could tell your dh that you want to roll play. He could be the submissive housekeeper, and you the dominating, but slutty boss. You could send him to do chores around the house and then give him sexual favors. That way stuff gets done, and you guys get sex.

A kick in the ass would work too though. Take your pick.

Oh pebble

Stop doing anything for him. Don't cook for him, or do his washing, ironing etc. Make him do it. That way maybe he'll see just how much you have to do in so little time, and perhaps he'll gain some shred of understanding as to what your day is like with no help from him. Does he work nights? Tell him that once you start getting a bit of help around the house then perhaps you wont be too tired or not in the mood to have sex.

Sometimes I really envy the fact that you all have partners, then I think of all the crap that comes with it sometimes and think I'm better off lol. I remember what my ex used to be like when it came to getting fruity and most of the time I just wanted him to f**c off. And that was without the added pressure of dd.

Have to dive in the shower and get down to the post office. Last couple of ebay things finish today.

I think the kick in the ass would have more effect. He wouldnt do chores for anything. If he does help tidy up he will only do things that belong to him ie tidy his side of the bedroom, move his shoes etc, all in all hes a lazy git.

At the moment it feels as though i dont matter, im expected to run around keeping everyone else happy yet im not allowed a few minutes to myself. Its got to the point i dread it when hes home because i know he will keep harassing me, if i say no he sulks and if i give in I hate myself for it. Sex should be fun but the way dh goes on and on about it makes it feel more of a chore and i dont want that. Dont get me wrong I enjoy sex but when im up to my eyes in dirty nappies and chasing after A sex is the last thing on my mind but dh finds that hard to accept. I know him working lates doesnt help, by the time he gets home at 1am im knackered and half asleep and then during the day i have to do housework and look after the kids, it makes it hard to find time to be alone. If i make time in the afternoon for us then he moans that I dont do anything round the house. His latest thing is to threaten to get it elsewhere if i dont 'provide' what he needs which makes me feel worse. I know he probably does feel neglected but so do I, I cant remember the last time I had time to myself which I didnt use to catch up on housework or making other people happy. Is it too much to ask for him to think about me for once!!

M2CM ive done the whole not cooking, cleaning up after him thing and it doesnt make a bit of difference. He just grabs a takeaway on his way to work and takes all his washing to his mums (which then makes me look like a bad wife)

Sometimes I miss being a single mum, never thought i would ever say that but its true, I know its hard work trying to be mum and dad but at the same time its good because you only have yourself and the LO's to worry about and not some selfish overgrown child

Pebble, I know how you feel. It's hard when there is someone else there that is supposed to be your partner, but you do everything. Before I was working I would think, what do I need him for. He doesn't help do anything. Now that I'm working and he takes care of the kids he understands that looking after children, and the house, and the dog, and make a meal isn't always easy, and most of the time it isn't. I think when we stay at home our partners have this idea that we are in front of the tv eating chocolate all day.

M2LB my dh actually had the cheek to say that to me yesterday when i chose to have some lunch, it was the first thing i had eaten all day and its not often i eat until 5pm anyway yet he accused me of sitting on my arse and stuffing my face all day every day. I wont tell you what my reply was

Oh yes, I've been there. I just say, "yeah I watch tv all day. I love the Doodlebops."

I bet if you told his mother what he does she would kick him in the ass.