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TheTwelveDAISYOfChristmas · 12/12/2007 22:07

if it's no good feel free to ignore me and start another with a better title......just don;t forget to link it

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TheTwelveDAISYOfChristmas · 13/12/2007 21:35

I think the 6 mo mark is a turning point for the babies in that they are starting to realise that they can influence the outside world; ie cry = get picked up. DS went through it at this age (and of course I always picked him up). DD is doing it too now but to a lesser extent as a lot of the time I just leave her to grizzle, if she's just grizzling over nothing.

I seem to remember being in tears a lot of the time with DS as he just wouldn't settle. We shared a room till he was almost one and that was hard too as he would wake up if I so much as sneezed.

I spoke to my sister earlier...she has the same thing I've got; in fact I think we were puking simultaneously last night!

I'm off to bed; DH has gone back to work (he forgot to bring his laptop home and can't work without it) so I need to be refreshed for the school run in the morning.

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nowbringussomeJammypudding · 13/12/2007 21:37

It's not the books that rack up the postage bill, it's the presents we send to adult friends, and all the cards going out to my large family. We have cut back a little this year though and are not posting so much.

nowbringussomeJammypudding · 13/12/2007 21:44

Past my bedtime though, so night all

justbeme · 13/12/2007 22:06

Night Jammy - wow thats good - 12 books for £10! - See what you mean!!
Ive cut out adults getting pressies now - so much easier!!

I feel the munchies coming on..... Doritos?

TheTwelveDAISYOfChristmas · 13/12/2007 22:11

hey jbm...I'm still up. DD had other ideas about letting me get to bed so I've had her on my lap. She is asleep but very windy and unsettled....I hope she hasn't caught my bug.

We've only really done the kids this year (well on my side anyway), and I got my sisters and their hubs a nice bottle of something, and my brother and his wife a foodie thing.

We generall don't give to our friends kids, unless like last year we had Christms lunch with some of them.....of course I'm now worried this has started a precedent and we haven't got them anything...

off to see if this LO will settle as I need to sleep!

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justbeme · 13/12/2007 22:18

Hi and bye Daisy - You've been busy posting on other threads I see! did you get a buyer for your pram btw?

The only thing with not buying for adults is that some of them now dont buy for DD1, which was a shame - but never mind!

My eyes feel tired now - think i'd better turn off the computer - hope you get a good night sleep and feel better in the morning.
x

TheTwelveDAISYOfChristmas · 13/12/2007 22:31

no i didn't I think I upset the huns by getting twinklywinklydippymumofdjs post deleted. Either that or people think it's from a serial pram buyer/seller and are staying clear.

We'll put it on ebay after Christmas or I'll try again with a different thread title, LOL

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TALLUBAHHUMBUGBELL · 14/12/2007 05:29

FINALLY online ? hurrah!

Daisy ? am so sorry about your mum. Hope you manage to have the family Christmas you all want & deserve.

Was due to come home next week but now we are staying on here for another month. DH is needed at work over Xmas / New Year. Was kind of stuck between a rock & a hard place, didn't want to stay on, didn't want to force him back when he felt he was needed here & didn't want to fly home with DD by myself. Oh I guess that's a rock and 2 hard places!

So just have to try & make the most of it. Am grateful that the sun is shining & we are not shivering & sheltering from the rain or suffering almost perpetual darkness. However, the telly is shite & Home & Away has finished for the summer!

So quick update - DD is doing well. She will be 6 months tomorrow. We attended a sleep clinic as she refused point blank to nap in the day. It really did the trick & she now has regular morning and afternoon naps, still sleeps thru the night (mostly) & is a very happy camper for it too. As is mummy. JBM I will post the advice on here later.

We just started solids last week - she's had baby rice, apple, carrot, pumpkin, apricot, peach, avocado and banana. The only thing she screwed up her face at was the carrot but she ate it anyway. I'm doing some mush but the banana, peach & apricot I just gave her a big piece to chew on & she gummed it all up. So finger foods seem to be the go. She's sitting up by herself for short periods of time & can roll when she wants to but usually doesn?t. Lazy, like her mummy! Still a tiddler - around 6kg I think & still in 0-3 month clothes.
How?s everyone else doing?

Quick skim shows lots of illness so hope everyone better soon.

oops - not really a quick update was it?

nowbringussomeJammypudding · 14/12/2007 07:49

Tallulah - good to here from you, hope your extended stay isn't too bad. I'd love to hear the advice about daytime naps when you get a chance, as they just don't happen here.

Had a better night here though, 2 feeds and then slept until 6.45

nowbringussomeJammypudding · 14/12/2007 08:21

just spotted my early morning brain in action - I do know how to spell hear, honest!

HaveYourselfaNortyLittleXmas · 14/12/2007 08:33

You english looks ok to me jammy - or is my early morning brain????

Morning all

back at work today and DD in nursery....definately on the mend....bet she's sleeping it off as we speak

Hello tallulah - good to "see you"

Can we have a tooth count? DD hasn't got any yet but dribbling has got much worse (but don't know if its due to her cold) and I'm sure I can see a lump towards the back of her gum.....

WewishyouaBUMPERLICIOUS · 14/12/2007 09:09

Morning all,

I can join the ranks of the living dead today. DD is poorly with a cough and a cold and woke at 11 and 5 am. We put her crib in our room last night and she snored like a trouper!

Quick PFB question - should you take LO to the dr's for a cold/cough or just give them some calpol? Just asking for DH's benefit! Bless him, she was difficult getting down last night so he kept going into her room to hold her hand to sleep - I would've just left her!

My flat looks like even more of a shit tip today as we had a party last night. Only a small one,about a dozen people and they all left by 11 as DH and I must have looked knackered!

Glad you are online T! Sounds like DD is doing really well, eating lots. My dd is a tiddler too, every now and then she is still in some 0-3 stuff! The sleep clinic sounds interesting. Where did you go? Can adults go? I need a sleep clinic!

JBM and Fairy glad your LO's finally got down last night. Norty, sorry you have to be back at work today but glad DD is feeling better.

Are your LOs babbling a lot? DD's has really come on in the last 2 weeks and she is saying dadadadada and last night and this morning she was yelling bubububububub! When she cries she kind of talks, it's soooo sad, she sort of cries and goes bububdadadbababa, it really sounds like she's trying to tell you something!

HaveYourselfaNortyLittleXmas · 14/12/2007 09:28

Bumper - I've been giving DD Calpol and steamy bathroom treatment as well as tilting matress in cot and plug-in Karvol. Personally I would take her to the doctors if she was refusing food. I also let her sleep as much as she wants and have the dummy as much as she wants (normally I ration day-time sleep and she only gets the dummy at sleep time)....when I have a cold I feel shit, so assume she does. Its fun chipping off the snot from her face in the morning

WewishyouaBUMPERLICIOUS · 14/12/2007 09:45

thanks norty. thing morning (at 5am) dh said "ah she's snuggling on me" i said "no, she's wiping her nose on you!"

deckthehallswithboughsofholly · 14/12/2007 10:00

Morning everyone!

SO sorry for all of you who are feeling rough... hope everyone is better this morning. At least you know that you should all be better by christmas! ((HUGS)) to you all, you poor poorly girls!

I'm sorry to talk about me, but I've just ordered my christmas present for myself! I am very excited! It's one of these! I've wanted one for ages and they went down in the sale this morning! HURRAH!

Going to get my birthday present in a min as well...one of these!

Sorry again about talking about myself, but I'm really excited!

TALLUBAHHUMBUGBELL · 14/12/2007 10:26

Gorgeous coat Holly - what colour?

Have attempted to assemble my thoughts on advice from sleep clinic.Will post it separately as will be a bit long and rambly but hope might be useful for Jammy & JBM .

Maybe DH can apply the same tricks to you Bumper. I know I'd love someone to wrap me up & rock me to sleep. AWWW at him holding DD's hand tho'.My DD is babbling away too, DH swore she said dada but it doesn't count if she says it to her piglet does it? I keep trying mum mum mum but she doesn't get it.

Glad LO feeling better Norty. No teeth here but lots of dribbles. How's work?

TALLUBAHHUMBUGBELL · 14/12/2007 10:33

JBM/Jammy ? Here?s the advice I was given at sleep clinic.

At this age they should have a rough ?2 up, 2 down? pattern so you should be looking to put them down for naps every 2 hrs. (I have stretched this rule somewhat otherwise would never leave the house. In gen E up between 7/ 7:30, I put her down around 9:30/10 & she is awake 11/11:30. Back down at 2pm, sleeps till 4 then bed around 7:30).

Settle when show first signs of tiredness ? beginning to grizzle, rubbing eyes, yawning, head shaking, losing co-ordination. (When I pick her up E will rub/nuzzle her head into my neck & face ? a sure sign which I naively thought was a cuddle!) When the crying starts they are already overtired & it will be much harder to settle them.

Set the scene for sleep ? darken room, make quiet, remove distractions (toys, mobiles etc). Swaddle, put into cot & tuck in firmly. (I have gone back to swaddling for daytime naps but am too attached to the grobag & still use at night to no detriment).

Hands on settling when she is crying. Think ? do you need to do anything? (I will pop E in her cot & walk out. I ignore the grizzly/ moany little noises & only go to her when she actually cries. Often she will fall over happily or after a few min of grumping. If she full-on cries I always go thru.) The hands on thing is hard to describe, I had the nurse demonstrate so was easier. Put one hand on her chest, other on her tummy & sort of rock her, when the crying dies down pat her & gradually withdraw then leave the room when she is quiet . No eye contact & don?t speak to her but can ?shhhh? a bit.

If she is crying always respond but be aware of not doing too much, only pick up if you have reason to be concerned or she is overly upset. Pick up to calm then settle back to sleep as above.

Follow same routine for all day & night sleeps & nightwakings.

Other general advice:. Work on settling for an hour max. If it fails, pick her up, carry on with your day until next cycle (2 hrs) then try again. If she sleeps less than an hour, try resettling using technique (persevere for around 10 min before lifting). Don?t allow a nap to continue beyond 2 hrs. Don?t allow napping beyond 4/4:30pm or will impact on bedtime routine. Can take up to 2 weeks of persistence/ consistency to achieve results.

The hands on thing was the hardest. The first time she cried & cried & it took 40 min to get her to sleep. The crying is caused by tiredness & has a quite distinct pattern of highs & lows. At the point where crying reaches a crescendo I would usually have picked her up but this wakens her more & the pattern starts at the beginning again so she didn?t sleep basically because I was interfering & not letting her. The nurse said they have to hit that wall to then calm down. Often they will repeat the pattern a few times before sleeping. The next time I put her down it took 10-15 min of hands on before she was sound asleep & that night she went down without a peep. Now she generally goes down pretty easily & sleeps well. I really hope this helps.

annobalthebignosereindeer · 14/12/2007 11:30

Holly I love that coat - it is on my wish list. What colour did you go for? I've also asked for a digital camera

Good to hear from you TB. The advice is great and will definitely be using it - especially the hands on for night waking (DS3 wakes up at around 8pm when he's been put down at 6...

DS3 slept through last night but DS1 woke at 2.30, 4.30, 5.30 and got up at 6.30 (DS2 only woke once at 3.30). I think they'll all be exhausted tonight and we can finally all get some sleep. That said, I think we're all feeling much better today.

Fury and Daisy, how are you both?

Bumper, my rule on the dr is if you are overly concerned, GO! That said, a cold, you need to watch that it doesn't go onto her chest, fever over 39 that doesn't come down with calpol or tepid bath and any rashes. Oh and if she goes floppy at all. That's about it really .

WewishyouaBUMPERLICIOUS · 14/12/2007 11:45

thanks annobal. i'm not worried, but good to know what to look out for.

TheTwelveDAISYOfChristmas · 14/12/2007 12:00

love the coat holly....

I'm torn between wanting this bag (Do I really need another one???) or this coat

or maybe I can justify both?

hey tallulah, nice to hear from you, but shame we won't be able to meet up over Christmas. Enjoy the warmth while you can!

your sleep stuff was really interesting as DD seldom sleeps in the day; only if in the car or pram. I moght put some of that into practice as I can't get anything done, especially as she is now mobile!! She rolls, then turns through 90 degrees and rolls again. It's sirprising how much floor space she can cover, and how she always gravitates to underneath the bookcase and gets tangled in the legs of it!

all better here today, but slept in till 8:15 this morning....made it to school by the skin of our teeth!

trace, what are the details for the sheff/barns/wakey meet?

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TheTwelveDAISYOfChristmas · 14/12/2007 12:07

and on the subject of doctors....does everyone know about the minor ailments scheme? for those entitled to free prescri[tions, you register at your pharmacy and you get things like calpol, nurofen, some skin creams, canesten cream (but not pessaries) for free, and without having to bother your GP. GPs love it for obvious reasons, pharmacies don't as it costs them money, so not surprisingly it's not heavily advertised by them!

More Info here

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annobalthebignosereindeer · 14/12/2007 12:50

Daisy, the bag and coat go very nicely together. What you save in the sale price has basically bought the bag anyway . (Do you want me to keep justifying?)

andiemisletoe · 14/12/2007 13:12

afternoon all have just down big blow out boden purchases for everyone in the house except the cat so we will all look luscious and a bit twee together

bumper hope you are both feeling better
daisy buy buy buy is my advice
tallulah sounds like you got very good advice glad its working

well have had domestic day except for shopping am off to make bed and pretend am domestic goddess for bit longer

deckthehallswithboughsofholly · 14/12/2007 13:21

Afternoon all!

Hey Tallulah! Hope things down under are ok.

Hope everyone is feeling better. Daisy are you ok after the puke and wee incident? I used to wet myself all the time when throwing up with morning sickness! It was so bad I used to leave a towel on the bathroom floor to sit on when I was spewing down the toilet...you are not alone!

I've got my camera, it's really lovely! It's 10 megapixels and it was only £99.99 which is half price (oh and it's pink)!

I ordered the coat in green. I was torn between the blue and the green, but my mum ordered it in blue and I thought it would be overly sad to have the same coat as my mum!

Loving the coat and the bag daisy! Luckily I didn't order anything else from Boden as they had very few things in my dd's size and nothing else I could justify buying for myself!

Dp has the day off today...would it be bad if I went and had a snooze with ds?

TheTwelveDAISYOfChristmas · 14/12/2007 13:57

lol annobal, whenever I try that sot of justification on DH, he says "me no understandy lady speak"

but, boden's website is down isn't it? so I can't order them....it's all the MNers trying to order at once I think.

and blardy hell....does buying from boden finally make me one of the MN glitterati? or a sad, middle class, middle aged frump???? (no offence intended to any regular boden shoppers out there, or holly, as you are definately NOT middle aged )

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