December 2007 - Santa's come early for some of us...

[Housemum]

Thought I'd start off the new thread as I've never started one before - congratulations to those of you who are on here now - hope I'll be joing you in the not-too-distant future!

Blimey Insy 8 hours????? That's double our best effort! Re the HV, I'd say if he isn't asking for feeds more often then he doesn't need them (obviously this wouldn't be the case if he wasn't gaining etc). If 3 hourly feeds work for you then keep with it. My problem isn't waking ds up for feeds, but trying to keep him asleep long enough to space them out!

Sounds like you are okay Insy as far as anaemia goes, my eyelinds are v pale inside and I was v worn out. Still am but in a more normal way since I started the spatone! Clot doesn't sound good though so might be worth getting it checked, can you see a different doc as last one not too understanding???

Clairey, sounds to me like you and DS are creating your own routine. Picking the bits that work for you and ingnoring the others is far less stressful than trying to do it all. Do what makes you and him happy! DD has a rough routine - feeds every 3-4 hours with first one around 6-7am and last between 12-1am. She self settles after morning feed and sometimes at other times but mostly she wants cuddles. If she wakes part way through a daytime sleep then she won't re-settle at all except on me!

BTW she poos at most feeds, usually 3-5 times a day - the DSs only ever went once a day, she's completely different to them!

Hello ladies,

just popping on to say hi.

Ediz is finally putting his weight back on and have been discharged by the MW finally. It has meant comprimising the BF tho as no matter what we tried I just couldnt get the weight back on. He is now predominantly formula fed altho we are still getting random bfeeds in there.

Have skimmed a little, seems everyone is doing ok, other than the pooing and feeding issues. Hope I havent missed anything too importnant.

Wanted to say thanks for all you kind words the other week after DH was being an ass.

Just wanted to reiterate what Amani was sayign to defo get some support if you think you may be depressed, last time round I dealt with it all by myself and felt awful for a whole year and really feel like I missed out alot with DS1 as a result. Dotn know if it was actually PND but it felt awful. I was even still ranting on here all the time about all the issues that i feel contirbuted to it, so have only recently really got over it. Thankfully am managing well this time round.

love to everyone, dont know when i will get on again so take care.

very quick one - baby toiletries are half price in sainsburys (including infacol!)

hello Mixedmama ah you're missed, please get internet access soon! [cheeky grin]. Ediz is thriving now and that's what's important so the fact you're still giving some bfeeds is great too.

Insy thanks for head start on baby toiletries, last time they did that I stocked up on wipes and nappy sacks and very glad I did.

I expressed some milk last night then gave it to DS at 1am when he woke and he took it no problem (guzzed the 3 oz then had boob after), am so pleased he doesn't refuse the teat like DD did so am determined to keep that up. I love my new pump so hopefully that will help me doing it! Only thing is does anyone else find their little one harder to settle after a bottle? DH is going to do a night at the weekend where he'll feed one of the deep of the night feeds but I wonder if we'll all get woken up with him trying to settle DS?

Well the HV came today and I tried to talk to her and guess what, all she kept saying was how all that was in important is that DS is here and I can have him all to my self from now on!

havbing a bit of a mare here

can you girls read this and tell me what you think?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/1375/473619?stamp=080207153028

Am feeling bored, DD1 and DD2 both asleep...Done all the housework, watched 'Desperate Housewives'....nothing to do which is wierd.

Has anyone else noticed that thier newborns neck smells? No matter how often I clean the area, can't seem to get rid of the pong.

Amani - yes the smelling neck! I've been putting bibs round DS and that has stopped the smell though, I think it was continuous possets gathering there. You are so organised to have done all the housework! Our cleaner stops next wk (it was a short term arrangement whilst I recovered from CS) but she was only here 2 hrs a wk so I've been doing the dusting and other light chores but will have to up my game from next wk!.

Pecka - off to read your thread

loucee - actually haven't done too much as dd1 is a bit of a light sleeper so if I make too much noise (i.e put the washine machine on) she'll wake up. In contrast Aliya is such a deep sleeper that I've vacumed right next to her cot, while she's been asleep and she's not woken up.

Amani come to my house please! Need to clean it before MIL comes or she'll think I am completely slovenly (which I'm not really, just in the last couple of months!). Can only get one job done before ds needs feeding/changing/rocking again or dd needs attention. Can do so much with ds in the sling but other things are difficult! Still, at least all the feeding gives me an excuse to mn!

I'm bored too Amani, and i've got no money so can't even spend any time online shopping That said I've hidden a pair of boots that arrived today from faith sale, they're lovely but dp would be v disappointed (he doesn't 'do' angry, its almost worse...) if he knew. I've never done hat before but we really are skint and £50 on boots was a stupid thing to do really...(but they are gorgeous)

I haven't smelt ds neck yet but will when he wakes up!

Insy at your 8 hrs!

Loucee, so sorry you're not 100%, keep posting on here about it (without apologies) and take it one day at a time

Macdoodle-i'm sorry you're going through it with dd1, like others have said it will pass and you're doing brilliantly. 'm not trying to put you off posting your feelings here but wh not start a thread to see if anyone has some really good ideas/strategies you could implement with her to try and change the mood.... Oh and well done for your pooing on dad dd2

Busy day, to ds to work to show him off.

Very very tired though, he was very unsettled as he appaears to be really congested! He is breathing, eating and sleeping okay just sometime when he breathes it sounds very wet. Got some saline nasal drops and have out some in his nose, any other suggestions?

Bouncing sometimes raising the head end of the moses basket/cot can help them to breath more easily, if you've got your heating on put a damp flannel or small towel over the radiator to create some moist air to help them breath. I think my baby olbas oil says from 3 months so that's no use yet.
DS was really bunged up yesterday, it was making me feel short of breath just hearing him poor soul. Then this morning when I picked him up after his nap he had this huge cylinder shape bogey on his cheek! Needless to say he was much clearer thereafter!

Feel much better this afternoon/evening. Took the DC (still feels weird typing that!) for a long walk and got up a bit of speed too which made me feel good. Then spoke to the Hospital and have arranged a birth de-brief with the consultant on 19th Feb (same day as DS's discharge appointment from the neonatal unit).

Now off to sort out the food for DD's 2nd b'day party on Sunday. Think of us then, when you're all enjoying a nice calm Sunday afternoon and we'll have a house full of 2 yr olds!

Thanks all

Morning all!
Loucee - have already raised his mattress, and he too has hag huuuugggge green bogeys hanging out of his nose!!
Been using my washables, though not overnight. Had a really messy one that leaked, staining the wrap!

We will need a new thread soon, complete with title!

How about "Let's see those smiles!"

Or has anyone got any better suggestions?

"I'd run a mile for one of your smiles"??

But yeah I agree BT this thread is crazy long we need a new one

Isn't their smiles the best thing ever though...because I had forgottom how heart-achingly cute it is...everytime I look at her I get his big smile and I think hey i don't deserve one of those...I have left you to cry whilst on the school run or doing housework or reading MN...and then you go and and look and get his big beautiful smile and I want to cry because she is just so beautiful....

howewver then they turn into a terrible 3 who lies on the bus seats and gets evil looks from old ladies and then has a massive tantrum...grghhhhhh middle child (cue oldest child I am never that naughty am I mummy?)

PMSL Cazzy

hi everyone,

clairey - glad my misfortune makes you feel good - seriuosly, i totally know what you mean and took so much comfort in knowing others were struggling with BF etc just because i knew it meant it wasn't just me

amani - well done for going into work with both DDs - v. impressive. these little accomplishments make you feel so much better, don't they?

macdoodle - i am also really struggling with big sister jealousy although my dd is only 2. she bashed ds round the head yesterday and now refuses to kiss him goodnight plus tantrums every time i feed him. i feel nso aggrieved because we were so dilligent in preparing for her new role as big sister and it seems like no-one elses older children are jealous so i can't help but think it's my fault. the only thing i can suggest is extra affection/hugs/telling her how much you love her etc. although she is behaing badly it is rooted in insecurity so i don't personally think telling her off will work. must be so hard coping with it on your own, i am completely in awe of you, buzzy, neuro and other single parents

insy - every ten days - well puts my four days to shame!!! i asked about it at my bf group this morning and the hv said bf babies usually poo very often or very rarely so that seems to fit what everyone has been reporting

quick question - to anyone who goes to nct bumps and babies coffee morning type things - does anyone bring their toddler or is it strictly babies only?

Skid - my bumps and babes is generally little babies only, the lady who runs it is fairly flexible but she does point mums with crawlers to other groups, because as you probably know the toddlers love to play with the babies and some mums aren't too happy with that.
Oh and my baby is in the poo often catagory!

Lizzer - I like that suggestion!

Cazzy - that is sooo sweet what your wrote about your dd!

Glad you know what I mean Skid, I wrote it and then thought, hmm maybe I shouldn't have posted that!

Phew busy day today! MIL arrives tomorrow so am frantically cleaning and moving furniture. Also had my PN check this morning-was at 9.30 am a 30 min walk away so was quite an accomplishment to even get there on time, took double buggy again cue ds screaming the whole way. Solved it slightly on the way back by walking around Boots til he fell asleep in the sling then putting him in the buggy on his tummy-then walked home really quickly in case anyone spotted what I had done and told me off! He stayed asleep most of the way home that way though which was a first-normally he wakes as soon as he touches the buggy.

Am quite worried now though, he has been asleep in the sling lots while I clean and so hasn't fed quite as often as normal-will probably have us up all night now! Or maybe, [hopeful emoticon] he has taken really big feeds when he has fed so will sleep all night! Ha!

He is another snot monster at the moment-mostly seems to be stuck in his throat and his breathing is quite rattley-think its inevitable at this time of year though, especially if you want to socialise at all!

Re baby groups-I can't go to any of the ones for babies/under ones because they won't let me take dd (understandable) and I don't have anyone to leave her with. I take ds to all her toddler groups with me though. I do miss the baby specific ones-I found both dd and I got a lot from them when I used to take her. I would be able to take dd to the breastfeeding group ("because there is no age limit on breastfeeding"-my HV )but it clashes with one of her toddler groups, and I kind of feel like I need to put her first when it comes to that.

MM I forgot to say hi to you , good to hear how you are doing and hope you'll keep popping on.

Hi everyone,
Both my little madams have snotty noses and DD2 seems to be briging up a lot of fleghm (sp?) with her milk. I've stuck a pillow unde her mattres to elevate it snd this has helped her settle better at night. Previously I was up every so often, listening to her struggling to breathe through her nose.

Skid - I've been doing the same as you and giving DD1 (22 mnths) extra hugs and kisses and making her feel involved with bathing and changing DD2 nappies.

hello all
back from scotland.
loucee- bottle feeding tends to produce more wind IME.
Talk about necessity being the mother of invention- i forgot a bit of my expresser when away and ended up manually expressing into a bottle! the things we do......