August 2007 - milk, mash or puree - take your pick and take cover!

[shrinkingsagpuss]

James - sorry, couldn't wait any longer... hope my link works...

My dd was the same lizzie. She was happy with 5oz bottles around this age. She was probably smaller than your dd too. She was obsessed with milk though, just little and often. As soon as my nephew started on solids he became less interested in milk. By about 8 months he was refusing to have any at all.

I should be able to leave work soon. I'm supposed to be here til 8pm but the night shift supervisor will be here soon and it's really quiet. We've only had 25 phone calls since midnight. I only do these horrible shifts on bank holidays. Any other day I can get away with doing core hours for child care reasons.

If she fed more often that would be ok.

For example today she had.

1am 2oz bottle

7am 4oz bottle

10am 5oz bottle

12pm a few spoonsful of carrot.

between 3pm and 5pm 5oz bottle. She will now sleep untill 1ish before she may want feeding again.

Happy new year everyone. hope you all had a good time no matter what you were doing - i was sleeping (well until the bloddy fireworks started!).

i was so glad to get xmas out of the way (hysterical overexcited DD1, DD2 choked with cold, MIL staying, dog that wouldn't walk on the laminate floor....this list goes on but i will stop now)

tasha - glad your back, sorry to hear about all the troubles your having though. your FIL sounds like a horrible man and it's very big of you to allow him into your house! though i hope all goes well with his wife's pregnancy - wow will that mean that your DS's will be older than their new aunt or uncle!!!

gill - hope you are getting double time for public holiday! and the babycook is wonderful - i wish i'd known about it with dd1, so easy and quick. how's your DS now that he's started on the inhaler is he any better?

lizzie - she obviously very contented with what she's eating/drinking

oh battery is about to go on laptop and cable is in DD1's room who is sound asleeep so not getting to say everything i wanted - bye for now

Hi folks, HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Weaning is... well....

going
really
well
actually.

Oh GOD the mess though. My soft furnishings are in shock! Must buy a highchair to contain the chaos, post haste!

Today he had stewed apple and cinnamon for breakfast, which he seemed to enjoy a lot, then baby spag bol for dinner followed by a strawberry petit filous as there wasn't much spag bol left in the jar. He seemed to really dislike the petit filous, lots of face pulling and dramatic shuddering (my son the thespian) So mummy will have to eat them, what a shame!

Been doing lots of pureeing too Gill, envying your beba as I'm using the steamer to blender to sieve thing and it seems to create mountains of washing up. But I've got about 30 yoghurt pot sized servings of puree in my freezer so it was worth it. I made cheesy leek and potato puree, carrot sweet potato and butternut squash puree, veggie lentil stew, apple and cinnamon, lamb and veg stew, a few single veg purees, and I bought some other things today like bananas, pears and an organic chicken to try some other recipes.

Still want to do blw at 6 months, hoping it will work despite the purees as ds doesn't seem to mind my clumsy weaning attempts, and may even have that bloody tooth through by then!

While I'm here and shamelessly showing him off, just captured these pics link1 link2 of James at his most gorgeous. aaw he's sooo scrummy.

Come on proud august mummies, post your baby pics here so we can see how far we've come!

Hi folks
James, what a cutie, stuffed full of goodness. Caitlin had her first taste of food today, banana which she loved poking about with her tongue tho dont think any went down. Am going to make concerted effort this week and next as she's back to 3 times a night and I've had enough, want my nights back.

Me & dp are so pathetic, I had a glass of wine last night and he had 2 and needed a resolve this morning. Memories of downing a bottle at least or many pints are fading fast.

Hi All

gill- LOL I love that word. dungarees, Yes, I thought you might say overalls too.

Tasha- i have a really Australia word to say to that email from FIL - CRICKEY what a **head, I think it's kinda good that dp didn't show you, I mean I would want to hide it, (if i was dp- too embarrassing and too hurtful and outgageous to show) but I would also want to know

ANYWAY I know of a few aussies who have married phillipino's and there are 2 types 1. the submissive and 2. the smart ones, who use it as a ticket out and then leave their dh's, in Oz you have to pay child support, and there is a big community of phillipino's that re group after they leave their aussie husbands. So they can support each other and work on getting the rest of their family out.
I THINK FIL, has his own email phrophecy/assumptions, comming right back at him

no solids here yet, i know how much more work and mess it is, but comming soon.

Forgot to say

HAPPY 2008

We didn't do much either, managed to stay up till 12:30, had 2 half glasses of bubbles with punch. We had friends for the weekend and their dc's are similar ages, so that was nice, we used to spend NYE's before dc's so quite different now.

JGB- love the pics, very cute
i wish i could upload some but still can't acess old email hence can't get password and still can't remember urrrrggggggg

lizzie- my LL is not eating much either ATM, i think he could be teething, very dibbly. he just has a few sucks, and wants a dummy which he has only just started being put to sleep with.

I was kept up by the fireworks too. There must be a professional display near us cos they always start at 11:55 and finish at 12:25. They are so close it sounds like a mortar attack. I have no idea how dh slept through it but I was awake until 1:15. Fortunately I wasn't on the early shift and I made dh get up with the dcs.

My2Weegirls - My contract states that I can be asked to work any day of the year so I get 2 days off in lieu rather than extra pay. I prefer the extra time off though.

James - I was doing the cook, blend, sieve thing with dd. The only reason I have the babycook is because a very kind friend bought it as a christmas present. The only bad thing is that it's so small. One portion of veg only seems to make between 2 and 4 pots of food.

I have a lovely picture of ds grinning at home. When I get the chance I'll upload it to my profile but I have put a christmas pic of the dcs on there already.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!

uki- i agree with everything, i was tempted to change the names on the email and send it right back to him lol
james he is soooo cute! i have to admit i put some petti flou on lo's lip for him to lick at even though he is still quite tiny im very impatiant.
gill-poor you back to work already, hope your lo is doing ok.
my lo is feeding 3oz still about every 2 1/2 hours through the day and every 3 hours through the night he's awful generous at night
well im dreading 7oclock and thats the time i usually look forward to as i get the kids to bed but tonight we are going for dinner with dp's dad im not even going to bother trying to get out of it. i managed to, get out of seeing him last night, dp said he wanted to bring the kids down to see him and i took it as an opportunity to clean in peace.

Tasha, I don't know why you're going when the guy wrote such a nasty email about you!!! I'd say no bloody way. You could print it off and hand it to him, see what he has to say for himself.

Tried to film James while he was eating that spag bol last night. I've uploaded it here but it's very grainy and has no sound as I did it on my digital camera. If it did have sound you'd hear him giggling manically!

Just saw a youtube vide of a 5 month old baby crawling to grab his toys... wow!

Tasha you're a saint. Does your dp's dad know you have read the letter?

my2weegirls, tasha - Ds's cough isn't much better but it still isn't really bothering him. I'm taking him back to the doctors on Friday so they can listen to his chest and see if it's started to take effect. I've been told that bronchilitis is something that is quite common in boys under 4. It's quite likely that it will keep recurring.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!
I'VE BEEN LURKING, BUT DH HAS BEEN OFF WORK, AND WE'VE BEEN PAINTING OUR BATHROM, SO I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH TIME TO post..... oops sorry for shouting, left caps on by acident.

james - well look at you!!!!!! buying blenders and everything!! Glad baby James is enjoying things. I'll stick my oar in briefly, and suggest holding back on the meat til he's 6 months (the protein is heavy on the kidneys) (IMO ) but so pleased he's enjoying his food. Evie is now increasing her milk demands (which has taken the boobs a while to catch up on), and happily noshing on veggies at lunch time and rice and fruit for tea. Will start on breakfast in mid jan. However, she is STILL waking twice a night, and often sings for 1/2 hour afterwards which drives me mad!

I haven't posted for a bit as I didn't want to whinge, but DH has been awful over xmas. on xmas daywe had a huge row after DS refused to eat xmas dinner - he had jam on toast instead. DH accused me of treating my children like "performing seals" in front of my parents and siblings (no, we weren't with them, it doesn't read right). We didn't speak for the rest of the day, and he slept downstairs. He then refused to go to my mums with me for boxing day. I told him I'd refuse to go up north in jan with him , so he begrudginly came with me. We did have a fairly good stay with Mum, and Evie was v cute. DS has been an utter shite, but its that tme of year, and its his birthday too, so its ME ME ME ME.

I'm going to have to delay going back to work, as DH is not going to be able to cope with both children, so I'll have to find a childminder to do the wekend stints. MEans I'll earn even less, but never mind. If I leave him with both children, he leaves Evie, plays with DS, and she ends up screaming. Happy Days.

Ok. Missive over. off to find lunch, and antibiotics for DS who has a sore willy. happy days!!

soo cute james!! ill try and work out how to get pics onto this computer tonight, i hate windows vista nothing recognises it!!
Gill- yeh he does know, dp sent him an email after i read it, (well i kinda had to force him to) and he asked his dad to appologise to me, you''ll not believe wat he said, i ow them an appology for getting pg!
im only doing this for dp, his dad goes home on saturday so ill not have to see him for a while after that.

atleast i have MN to keep me sane

tasha, I admire your patience and ability to move on, you're a better person than I am. But please don't compromise your own feelings for the sake of your dp's. Your fil said some truly horrible things, and he sounds like an unreasonable tosser. If you can rise above it all and come away after seeing him feeling unaffected, then fair do's, go for it.

But if you know you're going to come away feeling sad, disrespected, and wishing you hadn't gone at all, then don't make yourself go. I'm not trying to be patronising at all (I'm only 5 yrs older than you anyway) but I sometimes wish I'd been stronger and realised my feelings were valid when I was younger. I let myself be disrespected and put up with terrible behaviour by older people because I lacked confidence. You're a good mother and your dp is very lucky to have you. Your fil is a nasty bitter piece of shit (and sorry but deluded- all those old men who get phillipino brides are, hope she takes him for all he's got once she's got her green card) don't give him opportunities to hurt you.

Lol, look at me coming over all protective, what am I like!

Sagpuss, I know, me wielding a blender after all my blw researching! I think I just started with the purees out of boredom- to be fair he'll eat them but he's not arsed, he'd be quite happy with just milk. I did so want to do blw but waiting til 6 months was boring and I was impatient I'll still try it in a months time, I'd love for him to feed himself!

There's meat in 50% of the baby jars, so I thought they were ok with it at this age. I did freeze a batch of stew with a bit of lamb in, but it'll keep if you think we should hold off. It's a bloody minefield, can't do right for doing wrong!

Going out now so can't type everything I was going to say but I'll be on later. x

Hope he's at least civil to you tonight tasha. Good luck.

James - as long as the jar says that it's suitable from 4 months then it's fine. I would agree that you should hold off on the meat dinners that you've made for a month or so. You're right that it's a minefield. Annabel Karmel recommends meat from 7 months IIRC so who knows.

sagpuss - my dd's been awful recently. I've put it down to delayed sibling jealousy. My mum always used to say she was 'good as gold' but now she often tells me she's been a pain and refused to do things like get in the buggy. She's always wetting herself and doing poos in her knickers and we've had to start sleep training again. She's very clingy to me too. I can't go anywhere in the house without her screaming 'wait for me' or 'I want to come too' and she goes into meltdown if I don't let her, even if I'm just running upstairs to get something and coming straight back down. Fortunately she's still fine with ds. Hope you find a childminder for weekends. I bet they're like gold dust. I wouldn't like to leave the dcs with dh for long. He struggled just with ds yesterday who is so easy to look after. I think he just expects that he'll either sleep or sit happily in his bouncer. To him, ds is a pain if he wants a cuddle cos he can't then play his computer games.

James

I have this book by Lorraine Kelly.

www.amazon.co.uk/Lorraine-Kellys-Baby-Toddler-Eating/dp/0753511479/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1 199307195&sr=1-11

Sorry can't rename links to complicated for me .

It is realy useful as it goes up to toddlers eating and potion sizes.

It has a lot of infomation on how to wean timetable as well as a lot receipes.

Tasha21

Well done for not dropping your standard to his. Although i think i would have appologised along the line of " I appologise to you when you appologise for being an A*rsehole and respect you son for being more of a man then you". I can't even use the excuse of being young as i am 17yrs older then you and even at my age (38yrs) would even speak to him on the phone let alone go out to dinner with him.

Thanks for the link, looks good but I'm feeling torn again. I'm tempted to stop the purees again and blw him at 6 months since he's not that bothered (he loves his milk and still happy with amounts of milk etc)

I hate making all the decisions, it's so hard to know if I'm making the right ones.

Tasha, how did it go?

james - he's gorgeous! he looks so content in the photos. imo if james is enjoying his puree's then i'd keep going with it. i've been faffing with the weaning - some days giving and some days not. once things are back to 'normal' next week i'm going to make a real effort with it as dd2 seems to like everything so far (except for brocolli).

tasha - how did last night go?

i'm such a cheap date with the alcohol too - had half a glass of wine on new years day and it went straight to my head - my face, neck and chest was flushed.

we've had a few really girny days - her gums seem to be really bothering her - and she's chewing on anything she can get to her mouth, my hair, chin , nose - hope the tooth comes through very soon! i think that i can see something but not too sure, she won't stay still or keep her mouth open long enough for me to get a good look.

dd1 is stil petrified of santa and even talks about him in her sleep - poor thing.

i'm supposed to be meeting a friend in glasgow today to help him with prep for an interview but it keeps snowing on and off so don't think i'll be gong anywhere - hate driving in snow.

James, keep going, if only to broaden his taste experiences!! I only say about the meat as the jars probably have very little meat in them, but when we cook, our proportions are probably different. Jars probably fine, but home cooked casseroles have more meat in them.

It is a minefield isn't it. I'm trying everythign I know to get Evie to eat more in the day (milk or otherwise) but it doesn't seem to make any difference, she still wakes twice a night and its driving me mad. I don't think she's actually hungry, but I'm so worried about her waking DH or DS that I feed her to keep her quiet.

Tasha - Your poor thing, your FiL sounds like a real piece of work. Your DP needs to decide where his loyalties lie - i.e WITH YOU the mother of his children!!

Ds rolled over properly for the first time yesterday evening. He even managed to get his arm up from underneath him. After a few seconds of having his face in the carpet he started complaining so we had to turn him back again. Dh told me he'd done it in the cot on Tuesday but I didn't count it as 'official' because the mattress is soft and bouncy.

I feel quite crap this morning. I was in a good mood until my manager asked me to tell my team that her manager noticed they had been chatting a bit too much recently. Some of them had a go at me for treating them like children. I'm sure it wasn't intended for me to take personally and I did defend them to the managers (they always get the work done and it's been quiet) but I still felt like crying. It didn't help that I've had a few bad nights sleep.

It's difficult to know what to do James. I don't know what it is about us mums - we just can't wait to get them eating food I think for me it's refreshing to have a baby who's so eager to eat, rather than my dd who, at nearly 3 yrs old, still isn't bothered. Until recently, most nights she refused to have an evening meal. If James is happy with the purees then carry on. I'm no expert but I can't see why purees and blw can't work together. I intend to try both when Alex is old enough.

shrinking- i feed dd2 as well so that she doesn't wake dd1 up - i'm sure that if i just gave her a wee cuddle and let her cry for a few minutes she'd settle down -probably making a rod for my own back!.

gill - well done your ds!! and poor you, i'm sure the lack of sleep won't help how you are feeling. is it a new manager that is complaining? or just someone who is trying to exert their authority?

Sagpuss, I used Gills idea of just giving dummies or the barest minimum of milk/water in the early part of the night until they realise that it's not worth waking up for, and it worked like a dream here. Obviously only works if they get enough to eat during the day (not a problem with my little piglet!)

Well, I forgot my weaning confusion this morning, remembered halfway through spooning in some apricot puree, and realised he was opening his mouth baby bird style before each spoonful, so while he isn't "bothered", he does seem to enjoy them! He wanted the spoon though, and I was tempted to give it him to see what he'd do with it. And that's why there's apricot in my hair.

How are the babies getting on developmentally now? Anyone's baby sitting up alone yet? or holding their own bottle? (James tries, getting better all the time) wriggling or attempted shuffling? turning over?

Oh, didn't see last two posts cos stopped to make beans on toast mid-post.

Gill, when I worked in a callcentre the management made a "naughty corner" (literally called that, with a sign overhead) and the supervisors had to put agents who read the scripts wrongly or talked too much in there. It was horribly patronising and caused a lot of bad feeling, the place was a shambles. You must feel stuck in the middle, all you can really do is be fair and nice to them so they want to behave professionally for you. Try not to take it personally, they're just shooting the messenger.

mytwoweegirls, I'm waiting for the first tooth too, is it an upper or lower which is emerging? it's an upper left here. Can feel the little sod just under the surface but it might not be here for weeks yet, hard to tell.

lower left def - but also got bumps at lower right and uppers as well....dd1 got 8 teeth in 2 months when she was 6mo - and that was a hellish time! really don' t want a repeat of that

ooh massive explosion in nappyy.....bye!