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Riebee · 04/11/2004 16:10

Right oh this should be ok this time. I hope I've done it right this time - If not I'm giving up!!!
Posted the thread under pregnacy last time.

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bunny2 · 17/01/2005 21:51

bb1, jsut seen this - abit late - I would ring the hv for reassurance but it is probably fine. My ds used to produce huge amounts of sick too.

Dd has been cooing away all day, she is just so cute .

I am so jealous of those of you who are back in your jeans, I have at least a stone to lose before mine have any hope of getting on.

Flossam · 17/01/2005 22:05

I think it looks as though bb1 got some help on the health thread!

gingernut · 17/01/2005 22:25

Hi everyone, haven't been on much because ds is very unsettled still. I really don't know what to do with him! He never seems to sleep for long in the day and can be quite whingy, he is very hard to settle in the evenings, and he isn't going any longer at night. I've decided to stop breastfeeding too as he never seemed satisfied after a breastfeed so thought maybe that was the problem. I gave him his last feed yesterday, and today he was even more unsettled than usual, but I'll see how it goes. I'm feeling really sad about giving up but at least I managed to feed ds2 for longer than I did ds1.

One thing that I think may be unsettling ds 2 is that I can see some of his teeth just under his gums and I wondered if they are about to come through. It's just he really seems to be bothered by something. This evening he was definitely hungry and wanted his milk, but he kept breaking off to scream for a few seconds and then starting to drink the milk again. He also seems to chomp on his dummy. If he is teething, there isn't much I can do for him as he is too young to have anything like Calgel.

ds2 is smiling quite a bit now, in between crying sessions! He is really cute too .

Floss, as the others say, these things happen to all of us. Hope you are both feeling better. We've all had colds too.

babybob1, hope your dd is OK. It might have been a large burp under her milk, IYSWIM.

Definitely not feeling broody! Discussed having the Mirena coil fitted at my 6 week check last week.

bunny, I don't have much weight to lose but need to shift a few pounds. Most of my clothes are still to tight to wear. Now I've stopped breastfeeding I am going to try to cut down a bit.

Flossam · 18/01/2005 09:58

That seems a real shame gingernut to have to give up. Were you enjoying it? If DS dosen't seem any better on the bottle would you not think about giving it another try? Have you thought about asking other mumsnetters? God only knows I've asked I don't know how many questions, probably driving half the people on here mad, but I am enjoying breastfeeding DS and don't want to give up. You could try under breasrfeeding/bottle feeding to see if anyone else can see what the cause is if teething or no. Poor DS, when can you start using calpol? What about seeing your GP? He/she might be happy to prescribe it to you, as often the age prescribing measures on boxes are precautionary only.

Poor you Gingernut. I know none of this will probably make any sense but you have been so helpful to me recently I wanted you to know that I'm thinking of you and you have some, well, support I suppose really.

Riebee · 18/01/2005 11:14

Hi

Gingernut your ds sounds like a carbon copy of my little one! I have had two others but you wouldn't know it, I am like a 1st time mum with ds3, in fact I think I am worse than I was 1st time. I am at a loss with what to do with him. I have just put him on a bit of baby rice as I have spent the last two weeks constantly feeding him.
I feel really bad that I haven't been able to last longer without giving any solids especially when I read about all these people not weaning until 6mths. I tried everything I could think of before I gave the rice but he won't take a bottle and I even tried giving him sips from a beaker. Last night he fed every 2 hours and was very restless, I feel a bit of a failure really I just don't know what to do with him. He also does the breaking off thing when feeding, a lot of his feeds later in the day are what I would call unsettled ( lots of squirming, pulling off and a bit manic really)
We are going to Florida in 2 weeks and I am praying that he settles down a bit.My other two were so content that ds3 has been a huge shock to the system.

Flossam...just to add to things, yesterday I dropped activity toy on ds face, didn't make me feel much better!

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babybob1 · 18/01/2005 15:13

hi yes got help from feed the world breast and bottle feed saw hv today and she does not seem worried dd is feeding ok today just was in shock i think.

my dd was born on 23 nov just have not really had time or been near a computer to post.

bunny2, im with you jeolous i have not really lost any weight belly gone done a little need to lose 3 stone

Oh also hv said dd has cradle cap did any of yous have it and what did you use? she said start with olive oil!

collision · 18/01/2005 15:26

Babybob....olive oil is great for cradle cap. It is all I have ever used for children I have looked after in the past. Glad baby is OK.

Riebee....I have had to persevere with ds2 on a bottle. He wont really take it from me as he can smell me and knows the boobie is there !!! DH manages well with the bottle in feeding him so maybe you could ask someone else to give him a bottle.

Riebee · 18/01/2005 16:21

Collision... will give it a go. I know he knows theres something better on offer when I am feeding him so will see how he gets on with DH doing it.
Babybob, I've been doing the GI diet and have lost 7lbs in a week and half I am so not a dieter as I have a slight problem with the old willpower but I found this so easy to do as it is more of a healthy eating plan than a diet and you don't seem to feel too restricted in what you can and can't have. My friend started doing it in October and has lost an amazing 4 stone! I need to lose another stone but I feel confident that I will achieve it doing it this way...fingers crossed. However off to Florida soon and have no intention of dieting when I'm out there! mmmm lovely pancakes

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eidsvold · 18/01/2005 21:30

babybob1

my dd2 has a slight case of cradle cap - they suggest putting olive oil on for an hour before you wash then give it a rub as you wash the hair. I just shampooed dd's hair and gave it a bit of a rub with the flannel and then brushed her hair. She only had small flakes of it.... dd1 used to get it quite bad and difficult to remove as she had a lot of hair ..... I used dettinox shampoo with her although the oil suggestion helped at first.

collision · 20/01/2005 21:56

Riebee....what is the GI diet? Dh needs to lose weight (not much but trousers are a bit tight) and he is getting disheartened ATM. Mind you he had pizza and a beer tonight so I have no sympathy!

Flossam · 21/01/2005 10:34

I got my giving DP a baby present yesterday! He was staring longingly into the sony centre window, so I got bored and wondered off to a nearby jewelers. They had a sale on and there was a really pretty platinim and diamond eternity ring in the window. When DP came over I said, I like that one! You could buy it for my for having DS (jokingly). We walked off and I pretended to sulk, and I went and looked at shoes and he went off to get cash for our coffee. When we got home he wound me up about how he might of brought (another) electrical item off ebay, and would I kill him? I said yes and described in great detail how I would go about doing so . He said well I'd better give you this then, and gave me the box with the ring in it! Sorry but I was quite excited! So Collision, I think you should repeat this story, or leave a print out of it somewhere strategic to make him feel that he should do something for you (or has he already?).xx

Has anyone elses DB started to stare at their hands? DS hasn't but I've read that it should of started by now?

Flossam · 21/01/2005 10:35

That first sentance didn't make any sense! sorry, hope you get the jist!

Riebee · 21/01/2005 10:49

collision...basically the GI diet is a healthy eating plan.GI stands for glycemic index which measures how fast foods are digested and sugar released into your system. sugar is given a rating of 100 and all other foods are based on that so the lower the GI number the better.It all about eating slow release carbs, with low fat, high fibre and protein so that you body takes longer to break down the food and you don't get the sugar highs and lows.If you keep your blood sugarlevel constant then you are less likely to snack on all the bad things.
I am the world worse dieter but I have found this so easy, I would have never believed that I would stop craving chocolate, biscuits etc but I am really enjoying the food and find myself wanting to eat healthy! v strange.
My friend recommended the book- Living the GI Diet by Rick Gallop which is great as it has an eating plan and recipes in the back.
I have lost nearly a stone since Christmas which is nothing short of a miracle for me
The best bit is you can have skimmed milky decaf coffees with sweetner...top that with a bit of nutmeg&almond extract and you could be in Starbucks.

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Riebee · 21/01/2005 10:59

Flossam..DS became quite fascinated with his hand about 2wks ago (hes 12wks now) he only looks at the right hand though and doesn't seem to know he has a left. I think all the development stages can be taken with a pinch of salt, babies do things in there own time and most of the time your baby will do something that others aren't and vice versa.

fingers crossed DS3 has settled down, I think the solids did the trick, he even went 6hrs between feeds the other night...a huge improvement on 2 hourly

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bunny2 · 21/01/2005 21:31

Riebee, Im doing a gi diet too - I am really enjoying it although I am interpreting the plan in my own way! Too scred to go on scales right now but my fat clothes are definately a bit looser this week.

Flossam - you and dp sound just like me and dh. I am getting a diamond and platinum eternity ring in MArch (married 5 years) and dh has just treated us all to a Sony Wega plasma tv! He has been wanting one for years.

Dd is doing so well and we have her bedtime routine down to a tee. She goes down, awake at 8 and sleeps till around 1 or 2 am for a feed then sleeps till 5 or 6. And ds is finally sleeping through too and in his own bed so we are well chuffed!

Flossam · 21/01/2005 22:02

Bunny, in our household there is only one person DP would be buying the TV for, and it ain't me or DS!! Glad to hear that you will be getting a beautiful ring though!!

gingernut · 21/01/2005 22:12

collision, there is a table of glycaemic indeces here .

Riebee and Floss, thanks for your messages. Riebee, I had been feeling a bit of an idiot for not feeling I could cope even though this was my second, so thank you for reassuring me. He is still not sleping well and today has taken hardly any milk but maybe it's just a matter of time.

Flossam, I was enjoying the breastfeeding and could start again (in fact, I did one feed on Wednesday because ds2 seemed off-colour and I thought it might help), but in truth it will not work in the long term. He was getting a lot of formula anyway. I struggled with b/f ds1 for several reasons, one being that I could not latch him on without using a nipple shield because my nipples are quite flat. I did try breaking the latch after a couple of minutes (once he had sucked my nipple into the shield) and latching him on again, but I got very sore and the cracks just wouldn't heal. The fear of experiencing this pain again almost persuaded me not to even try this time! I decided to give it a go, but I just couldn't latch ds 2 on at all without the shield, so I have been using shields all the time. Nipple shileds reduce your milk supply so ds2 could never get enough from me and I had to supplement with formula, despite spending a long time feeding. There was no hope of getting him into any sort of routine that way. It was also very unfair on ds1 because feeds were taking so long. That is why I have decided to stop. I am sad but I do feel it is the right decision. As for giving ds medicines for the teething pain, I have given him a little Calpol because it is licensed for use at 8 weeks following the first set of jabs, so if a 2.5 ml dose is safe then I reckon a small dose is safe at 7.5 weeks. AFAIK it is a weight-adjusted dose and ds isn't a small baby so should be OK (it is considered safe to use paracetamol during pg after all). I took him to the baby clinic yesterday and asked the HV to look at his gums just in case it was thrush (I didn't think so, but have never seen thrush so wanted to make sure). She said it was definitely teeth but she thinks they aren't going to erupt just yet they are just moving around (he was biting down on her finger).

ds2 has been staring at his hands and batting things on his playgym and activity arch. Floss, your ds has probably just been concentrating on something different. They really do all do things in a different order, and I am convinced it is partly to do with personality (they concentrate on whatever they find interesting) and chance (they discover some things before others and there is no rhyme or reason to it).

Glad to hear you guys are getting some nice gifts. Coincidentally, my dh has some time off to take before end of March and has booked a day off near my birthday (which is in March) so we can go shopping for a present for me! It is one of ds1's nursery days so we shall only have ds2 with us. I suspect he wants to buy me something special .

gingernut · 22/01/2005 09:14

Blimey, I don't half witter on! dh was out last night, can you tell?

We had a much better night last night, 5 hours from putting ds2 down after his late feed till he woke , despite the fact he didn't feed well yesterday. I think it's sometimes a bad thing that you know how much they're taking when bottle feeding, because if they don't take much then you get concerned. I shall try and learn to chill.

Riebee · 22/01/2005 10:41

Just ordered a baby cook off the internet for doing ds3 food. I have been looking for one for ages after seeing it in Blooming Marvellous cat when I was pregnant and doing the typical I 'll buy that nearer the time only to find they don't stock it anymore.Has anyone had one? It's an all singing and dancing processor that steams defrosts reheats and blends food.certainly beats pushing cooked apple through a seive when you find out you normal processor has just packed up (last night). I've got to wait until 14th Feb as it's out of stock so it should be here when we get back from hols
ds3 had some pureed apple for his dinner last night, he seemed to like it well enough so carrot next I think

Gingernut what date is your birthday? I'm March too.

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gingernut · 22/01/2005 10:51

Riebee, it is the 22nd.

Don't have a baby cook, it sounds interesting. I just have a Braun mini-blender thingy.

Sweet potato is very easy. You just need to bake it in the skin. The flesh comes out very mushy, you may not even need to blend it.

collision · 23/01/2005 22:17

I must have missed something. Are you weaning already Riebee? How old is ds3? I havent even thought about it yet!

Riebee · 24/01/2005 19:02

yes I am weaning!! Ds3 is just too hungry,I was back to feeding every hour and couldn't keep up with him. He won't take a bottle so solids it is.
He well over 15lbs now which is approx size of a 4month old .They used to say 16lbs 16 wks for weaning and they also do that exclusively breast feeding until 6mths thang but to be honest I would be dead from dehydration by now. He is so much happier now,I think he must have been starving poor little man.He has either pureed apple or pear
mixed with a bit of baby rice twice a day. one lot at 10am and the other at about 6pm.
Im just waiting for my new super duper baby cook to be delivered and then there will be no stopping me. Im pushing fruit through a seive at the moment as my food processor packed up the other day, I don't reccommend it, very tedious.
I had a bit of a breakdown at the weekend over ds3 passport or should I say lack of it.When I tracked it on the passport office website it said they running a query on it....we fly next tuesday!!!It turned out they wanted more details on our friend who had countersigned the form, they had sent him a letter but he only got it last Thurs as he had been away anyway after a couple of nights worrying we phoned today and they are now happy to issue the passport and we should get it by Thurs, phew! The thing that cheesed me off was that the same friend countersigned my passport form and that went through fine

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Riebee · 27/01/2005 20:28

Where is everyone?
ds3's passport arrived today....hurray Florida here we come

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bunny2 · 28/01/2005 21:10

Hi Riebee, these babies must be keeping us all busy!! Enjoy Florida

Who has daytime sleep routine going? DD is fine going to sleep at night and goes into her basket awake with no problems but in the day she wont settle in the basket or anywhere else for a sleep. She will only sleep in the car or if we are out with her in the buggy. Consequently the amount she sleeps in the day can vary from 1 hour to 7 hours! Does anyone have a fixed nap time for daytime?

Riebee · 29/01/2005 10:59

DS3 has half hour naps during the day but doesn't have a routine as such, just crys when he's tired, sleeps for half an hour wakes up and crys! He did have a 3ozs out of a bottle in the afternoon for two days on the run this week then slept for 3hours but he didn't sleep as well in the night. He seems to do as he pleases some nights he goes 4 hours+ and others 2 hours, I just can't seem to get in to a regular pattern,it is driving me mad to be honest, I mean there feeding on demand and theres bordering on the ridiculous! Some days I think I should have bottle feed him from the start and maybe we wouldn't have this problem
God knows what the time difference in Florida will do, hey maybe it will sort him out and I will just have to live over there

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