Ttc 1st baby catch up 3rd thread!

[Fivebyfive2]

Thought as I'm bored and we're on page 40 of thread 2, I'd make a thread 3!

@MrsEG, aaahh your Halloween plans and costumes sound awesome 😀 I hope they get to go ahead as planned...

I have no idea what will happen in terms of a lockdown?? I think maybe they'll start with closing non essentials again first? My friend was saying she'd rather have a lockdown now or soon and then maybe be able to have things ease up for Christmas. To be honest I think over Christmas, people will do whatever anyway!

I'm so glad you're back on track with the weaning. You're doing amazingly well xx

Well! Saturday night we started in his room and made it until 11pm. Last night we started in his room and made it until 2am. Slow progress, but still progress! He's got 3 teeth now and I think a 4th on its way. Isolation is getting a bit grinding, but we're getting through the house jobs, having time in the garden and eating like little piggies to make it more bearable! Joe is constantly shuffling/scooching around and has been up on his hands and feet this morning 😂

Hope every one is doing OK? We'll need a new thread soon 😛

@MrsR16 @purplefig @ELW85 @LikeTheFruit @cupcakesandglitter @MrsH497 @Larrydavid @lokicat @stormtrooperjulian @thumper59 @ranchorelaxo @TrashKitten10 @delilah7

Sorry if I've forgotten anyone! Xx

Evening lovely ladies,

Hope everyone is having a fabulous weekend! Greater Manchester are once again back in a local lockdown; I’m just utterly sick to the back teeth of it all now. We don’t know whether we’re coming or going. Just so disheartening- we had plans with friends for tomorrow and Thursday that are now all cancelled. I feel similar to purplefig in that I’m just hating it all at the moment! Every day feels like Groundhog Day when you can’t get out.

In better news the boys are just doing wonderful, I don’t know what’s happening but it’s like they're racing each other to the next ‘thing’; Ruairí has cut his 5th (!!) tooth, they’re crawling, pulling up. Laughing like maniacs. They can be SUCH hard work (a friend was saying the other day ‘sometimes I look at my daughter and think fuck me, E has another one of you!!’ - sums it up perfectly) and the days are just exhausting but to see them play together melts me a little bit; they play with a toy together, crawl towards each other. Small victories, and all that!

@purplefig How are you doing now lovely? Are there any baby groups at all on near you? All of my NCT group all go to the same sensory class and try and go for coffee after so that’s one plan a week. Days - ours are basically so similar. I try and get out for a pram walk most days, and when DH is home I get myself out for a run, that’s been helping my brain exponentially. I take the boys to the park a lot, and I’ve also started taking them out during their awake periods just with toys and snacks and things - they love it, looking around at everything. Usually end up in the pub. This year has turned me in to a wino - I accidentally dunked my Twirl in to my wine this week forgetting it wasn’t tea (it was 5pm). My advice - do whatever you can to get through the day!!

@Fivebyfive2 I’m so sorry you’re having a hard time with Joe and his sleep. I’ve debated saying this but I hope it may bring hope! My niece didn’t sleep well for a long time. she woke every 2-3 hours until she was 17 months old (that’s the bit I didn’t wanna day!) - but then, one night she just slept through. There was nothing gradual about it - one night, it just happened. And she’s slept 7pm to 6-8am ever since. They do these things all in their own time. It must be so fucking hard now! I can’t imagine, I hope you’re surviving okay. But one day - he’ll nail it.

@MrsR16 another tooth! How many is he on now? How does he cope with it? Ruairí has just cut another and he’s miserable but Conor is fine with his!

@TrashKitten10 9 Hours! More importantly how did YOU cope with that all day?! There wouldn’t be enough wine... so pleased the test came back negative, but my god. What a week!! But WALKING! Ahh! That’s it now. Prepare for the slowest journeys/walks of your entire life haha! How was meeting your new niece?

@LikeTheFruit Hideous isn’t it. Sleep deprivation is the work of the devil. I sleep-bought a coat online at 2:45 am this week (only know that from the emails) - it’s electric pink. I don’t even know how it happened. How is she doing now? The hardest thing for us is how long it’s taking to settle them: gone are the days popping a dummy in does the trick!

@ELW85 Yeah it’s worked so well with Ruairí’s skin! And also the Aveeno dermexa range, fabulous, I slather it on him all day long. Who doesn’t love sweet potato?!
Finn is doing amazingly well, and you are a wonderful mother- remember that. They all hit these milestones when they’re good and ready to do so!

Just a snap of some twin wrestling here for you all!

@Fivebyfive2 - your MiL is a f’ing idiot you be fair. Don’t listen to her and just put her in the sea 😂
Finn’s sleep has gone a bit shit too; they’re just babies though and what can do? It will all fall into place!

@MrsEG - those boys are amazing! You’re doing such a wonderful job, and thanks for the eczema tips!

I hear you both on the milestones but when does it become a problem? So pushing up on his hands; if he never does it, is there something wrong? That’s what I’m confused about, all these milestones to meet and some guidance screams a problem and early intervention whereas everyone else seems to be ‘they’ll do it in their own time’?
I just want him to be healthy and fine.
Don’t get me wrong, I feel better for the physio not being concerned at all but when does it become a problem and how do I get him help?!

@ELW85 Don’t worry at all - it’s actually 9 months, like it can take babies that long to hit these milestones - all the months are are guidelines as to when a baby might start doing something. But it’s up to 9 months for pushing up sitting and crawling - this is why there is a HV check at that point. And even then, as I mentioned both my niece and a friend were ‘cautioned’ as their babies weren’t crawling but they did very soon after. Both around 10 months, from memory. My sister looks at the boys and cant get over it as her daughter didn’t even sit up well until she was 8 months old!
If you’ve seen a physio who’s happy with him then I would be very happy too :)

@MrsEG - thank you for that. I didn’t know about the 9 month thing. I didn’t crawl until 10 months so fingers crossed he’s just taking after me!

@ELW85 If the physio- who assesses children day in day out- is not worried then step away from random red flag warnings on the internet :) I'd say you'd have to be months off a milestone for anyone to really start thinking about intervention as babies are so, so varied. I'm sure I read the other day that 12 months is the milestone for walking but the window of 'normal' reaches to 18 months. Considering some children can walk at 9 months or earlier that's a huge window. A friend's child didn't walk until nearly two and nobody was overly concerned and he got there- slowly- but absolutely fine and without intervention. Smashing every milestone is probably not a realistic hope, it's rare for children to be brilliant at EVERYTHING. That's why they say babies are walkers or talkers, some whizz forward with movement and some are slower to move but quicker to talk. Daisy is definitely a walker not a talker. She 'should' be moving towards saying 3 words now but everything is 'da' or 'dada', nowhere close to three words :) She's definitely learning and progressing though so I'm not going to lose sleep over one or more milestone she's not hitting. I think you've just got to remember what the physio said and that they are the one qualified in this so if they say don't worry then don't worry.

@Fivebyfive2 It was amazing. I think she did it just to make up for her antics 😂 How are you doing?

@MrsEG Local lockdown again sounds miserable :( We are not on lockdown here but I still feel really down about it all. The thought of heading into the bleak winter months with all this doom and gloom is awful. Daisy having any kind of first birthday party is looking impossible. She won't know of course but I feel so disappointed after all these crap months we can't even have a happy celebration. I imagine most of us will be in the same boat with that one though :( Sounds like the boys are doing so well! The photo of them wrestling is just gorgeous, how special for them to have a brother and best friend from day one. Yes the nine hours was pretty horrendous. I knew she was tired, she knew she was tired but she preferred to just wander around howling and pawing at me for a cuddle she'd immediately reject instead of just having a bloody nap. I don't drink wine either, although a twirl would have hit the spot ☺️

Oh god, @TrashKitten10 you sound like you've had a rough time recently! However, first steps!!! That's wonderful! Daisy's doing so well!

@Fivebyfive2 I'm so glad your DH told your MIL to bugger off essentially! We have enough stresses as new mums during a pandemic without unhelpful comments like that to wear us down even more!

@MrsEG Ethan's still only got 2! He looks too cheeky... this top one is taking an age to come through!! However I can see the one next to it right there as well now so maybe it was waiting so two can pop through at once 🤦‍♀️ he's been hard work over the past couple of days! I'm just celebrating the fact that he's fallen asleep without a fight 😂 I absolutely love that picture of the boys! 😂

@ELW85 you already know my thoughts on how Finn's progressing 😊😊

@MrsR16 - I know and thank you for keeping me sane!! Xx

[quote Fivebyfive2]@cupcakesandglitter, hiya sweet, I hope you and Diana, are doing well?

@MrsR16, aaahhh Ethan you little troublemaker! Is he still sleeping better these days and eating like a champ? Joe is trying so hard to move - crawling, standing, he's trying it all but not actually succeeding much, bless him!

Well, sleep has officially gone to absolute crap again! Last night was awful, I genuinely thought at one point I was going to have to just sit next to him while he screamed himself to sleep, he got himself into such a state and nothing seemed to comfort him. Tonight is only marginally better, in that he's up in the middle of the night again, but at least he's not screaming the house down... Yet! Really struggling to be honest and hoping once we're allowed out again things will improve, or at least not seem as relentless.[/quote]
Hi lovely, doing much better Thankyou! Thanks for tagging me, I didn't get a notification weirdly when the thread was created which is why I posted on the old one 😂🤦🏻‍♀️ Dina is doing okay, we've started weaning and really enjoying breastfeeding now, her weight is definitely getting better and her personality is coming out a lot more. Ooh and she has two teeth! I can't believe she's already six months!!

PPD has hit me quite hard at times, I think when Dina has been overtired (quite often) I can't deal with her crankiness and then feel like a failure. Slowly trying to learn with her and become more patient but it's bloody hard 😓 not really been able to keep up with my phone in general, I feel like I don't get any time to myself to sit and relax but it's something I'm working on.

Will read and reply separately, if I come off this it gets rid of the quote and I have to scroll back again 🤦🏻‍♀️

@MrsR16 aww bless him, they say they come in pairs don't they! I think they're so cute with their first few 😂 how's he doing? X

@TrashKitten10 totally understandable how you feel about her 1st birthday I think, it will be such a shame but of course you can still (hopefully) have a lovely day with her? How old is she atm? Hopefully you'll be able to do something amazing! It's a celebration for you too! Ahh how amazing that she's taken her first steps, I bet that was incredible?! X

@ELW85 I've loosely tried to follow the thread and I'm so sorry for how you've been feeling but I'm so glad you're getting some help and little Finn is being looked at - totally agree with everyone else re milestones, there's such a wide timeline/age range for babies, and their different personalities mean they'll choose what they want to learn/do when they feel like it. Dina wasn't rolling until late, same with smiling and laughing but I've tried to just remember that it'll happen when she's ready... I hope you feel better about it soon, it's hard enough having general new mum anxiety I think, but you're doing super well x

@MrsEG sorry to hear you're back in lockdown, how're you feeling about it? Is your DH at home with you too to help with the boys? Aww wow they're really growing up! How lovely they're crawling and pulling up, and amazing that they play together too! I love that picture, babies do the funniest things 😂

@Fivebyfive2 Glad your DH told your MIL where to go, I honestly am so fed up of bloody comments!!! My mum is trying to convince me to use cot bumpers so that Dina doesn't get her arm stuck or fractured somehow from the cot. I've explained the SIDS risks many times but she still thinks she knows best? How are you doing otherwise? X

@purplefig @LikeTheFruit how're you both doing? Xx

Sorry if I've missed anything, little one is stirring and have a feeling she's going to wake up (again 😭) so trying to whizz through catching up and replying! X

@cupcakesandglitter - lovely to hear from you! It’s definitely been a rollercoaster with everything going on with him.
I am trying really hard to relax about it but I do find it difficult.
Sorry to hear you’ve struggled too. You’re doing an amazing job, and I know Dina adores you and feels the same way xx

Hi ladies sorry for radio silence not getting notifications! Well Charlotte is 20 weeks this week I can't believe where my tiny girl has gone. She's doing well (I think!) we've really had very limited contact from HV and no GP input despite the suspected allergies. Reflux doesn't flare up as often.

Sleep regression is no fun!

Can't believe we will be thinking of weaning soon any tips?

Will read the thread properly when miss isn't asleep on me! Must say on a self-indulgent moment realising which friends are proper ones at the moment and it's not a nice feeling.

@ELW85 glad you're doing ok x

@MrsH497 - lovely to hear from you! Oh no, what’s going on with your friends?
I started the process of weaning 2 weeks ago. I say it like that because it’s probably not going to go as you’d expect and it doesn’t matter anyway.
Finn started diving on to his spoon this morning for breakfast after pretty much 2 weeks of clamping his mouth shut!
So my biggest tip is to just trust that she’ll do what she wants, when she wants, you just have to be on hand to guide her 😊
If she’s got suspected allergies (more so any eczema) the recommendation is to introduce peanut butter and eggs early.
This is a handy guide: www.bsaci.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/pdf_Infant-feeding-and-allergy-prevention-PARENTS-FINAL-booklet.pdf
And try to enjoy it! X

@ELW85 ah amazing I'll look at that website. Friend who's baby is a couple of weeks older than Charlotte said to maybe try baby rice soon.
I think she will like weaning she's already intrigued by our food bless her. She definitely seems to be getting to the point she wants to at least try.
I'll definitely introduce allergens early i have asked GP for any weaning help but I'd rather lean on people like you ladies if that's ok?
Oh just always me contacting the friends I have locally, 1 in particular (was my bridesmaid) has been really bad at keeping in touch or asking if I'm ok. She's a mum as well so knows it can be really hard.

But we've had a trip to the seaside which she loved had a little paddle and the zoo - giraffes were a favourite!

Oh God always ask us! Might not always have the answer but at least one of us will have been through the wringer 😂
I’d recommend getting the free Ella’s weaning pack too. It’s buying into a brand but it’s got good info.

My friends have also been a bit scarce. I’ve messaged me (knowing Finn was having loads of tests) to tell me her life was shit as she had a sore leg. Didn’t even ask about Finn...x

@ELW85 that's do bad! We had to self isolate as DH had been in direct contact with someone at work with Covid she didn't ask if we were ok. Oh well I've decided to let her message me and arrange meeting as I'm done chasing.

Did any c section mummy's have issues with feeling like a little wee is sometimes coming out?! 😬🥺 trying to do pelvic floor as much as possible. I don't know if it's just paranoia 🙄

@MrsH497, yes to the wee thing! Just now and then and it hasn't happened for a while, so I think maybe it was just everything getting back to normal? But give your gp a call if it is a, frequent thing maybe??

Sorry to hear a few of us are seemingly in the same boat friendship wise. It's mostly family that I chat to now (parents, bro and sil) plus a couple of old friends, but they both live a distance away so we only see each other occasionally. I made a good friend in my nct group and we see each other regularly, but it's always me having to organise stuff!

Hope everyone is, having an OK start to the week? It's officially gone colder and greyer here, but I'm quite enjoying it; got the heating on, the blankets out and making an oven baked risotto tonight, followed by hot chocolate 😋

Joe was up every 2 hours again, but has been napping well today at least. He crawled 3 spaces right before bed last night... Trying to reach our cat 😮😂

@Fivebyfive2 glad it's not just me but I thought it would've happened sooner than now only been the last couple of days but turned me super paranoid and constantly checking. Just having a bad 😐🥺 day

My NCT group don't seem to talk much anymore now that we don't meet up (thanks covid!)

Charlotte has mastered rolling from back to front then cries!

@TrashKitten10 That’s exactly it - lockdown was relatively bearable during that lovely spring and summer but as we head in to dreary dark autumn and winter it’s just bumming me out. Our current local lockdown rules don’t allow any households mixing at all. ‘Informal childcare’ is allowed though and I’m wondering if ‘at the end of my tether and just need mum to come and entertain them for an hour’ counts?!
Ahh the idea of no first birthday parties is upsetting me too, when is Daisys? It must be pretty soon now?

@MrsR16 Ruairí now has SIX teeth!! Conor has 4. Like chill out boys! How’s Ethan doing, what’s making him hard work? Just baby stuff in general?!

@cupcakesandglitter so lovely to hear from you again! PPD is really really hard, and not to mention during a pandemic. I would say though 6 months was such a massive turning point for me. I can’t even explain why, they aren’t exactly ‘easy’ now but they’re coming in to their own loads and are so much fun. They’re almost 8 months now and are both crawling, playing together etc. It’s a long old slog but the pay off is coming!! How are you finding weaning?

@MrsH497 20 weeks already! Where has the time gone. I have lots of pelvic floor issues, loads. It’s common but not normal, if that makes sense - I’ve been working with a physio to fix mine, especially as I do a lot of running (well, I did - slowly getting back to it!) It really is just a case of lots of PF exercises, I set reminders to do them. Pregnancy weakens your PF so much!
Weaning, just go at your own pace and don’t put heavy expectations on it, don’t be disheartened when it all gets chucked on the floor at first haha. I hated weaning at first but now love meal times.

@Fivebyfive2 Haha the poor cat! He’ll be fast enough to get her before you know it! Yeah it’s gone very chilly here too.

Hope everyone is okay! The boys have colds that are really lingering - called them GP today who told me that during a babies first winter it’s not uncommon for them to have a snotty nose for the entire duration 😫 great! Haha. Poor Conor has a bit of inflamed skin on his cheeks because of it though so she’s given us a cream. Poor mites. They’re fine in themselves though! Chaos around the house as always. Constantly one getting in to bother while I’m dealing with the other. Conor escaped the playpen while I was changing Ruairí this morning, got in to the photo albums and started licking the pictures. Suppose I just need to get used to it!
I have a horribly down day this week, so much of it was PMS, but I was just so overtired and overworked (are the household chores ever done anymore?!) and I broke down, massively. I cried for almost 24 full hours and didn’t sleep. Stress-bought a very loud pink coat. So, this week I’m off all on my own for a massage and some lunch. A few hours of very calm me-time. I cannot wait!

Sorry just realised I forgot I had a weaning Q!
I’m struggling to get water in to the boys; we’ve got tommee tippee sippy cups and the Doidy cups but they have tiny sips at each meal and that’s it really. Is that fine? Should they have more?

@cupcakesandglitter Ethan's doing great thank you! Such a little chunker now... picture attached just because 😂 mums are so problematic sometimes, aren't they?? Mine was convinced that I need to water down cow's milk when he starts having that as a drink in a couple of months... I was like "well, I don't water it down for his porridge or weetabix, so I don't really need to worry!" 😂

@MrsH497 that really sucks about your friends... I didn't have that many in the first place 😂 then I came across you lot!! Weaning is fun, frustrating at times, but just go with it. Charlotte will soon let you know what she likes and doesn't! Unless she's like Ethan, in which case she'll just love everything!! 🙈 aw, zoo trips are amazing!! And the seaside 😊 sounds like you've really made the most of getting out and about! Yay for Charlotte rolling!! That's great!

@Fivebyfive2 I love the sound of your dinner tonight! Especially the hot chocolate bit... ooh, every 2 hours! Joe, be good to your mummy! Sleep for 3 🤣 yay on the crawling!! Ethan's forever after the dog and the dog just looks at me going "Mum, please help! It's grabbing me again!!" 😂

@MrsEG six teeth?!? My goodness! Yeah, I think I'm just panicking that I'm going back to work in 4 weeks (😭😭😭) and haven't got Ethan in a workable routine yet... he's very much doing what he wants when he needs it! Apart from napping. He's been fighting naps so goddamn hard recently! Today hasn't been so difficult though, which is good. Poor boys having a cold! Bless them!! Good on you taking some time out for you. I think I need to do that too! 😂 as far as water goes, Ethan took forever to actually drink some water. He mostly took it in his mouth and dribbled it down his front. He now drinks a few mouthfuls and then starts dribbling. I put the spout down at that point 😂 they don't need much water at this stage!

Thank you @MrsEG it's not too bad think I'm just hyper aware! Now religiously doing pelvic floor 😂

@MrsR16to be fair I've never had loads of friends either! Ethan is gorgeous!!
What age did everyone start weaning?!

Photos of my little chunk!

Sorry guys I just can't keep up with the thread at the moment! I've had to delete the app again as I was spending too much time on my phone and stress reading covid-19 mumsnet threads is noooot good for my mental health.

@MrsEG you're not alone. I've spoken to so many people who are struggling loads last week and this. I think maybe it's the change in the weather and no real improvement on this situation. It's hard. You're doing fab though. I kinda want to steal your massage and lunch idea.....

M doing dandy. Sometimes I just look at her and well up with how much I love her. Motherhood is a wild old ride isn't it?

Sorry for the crap reply...I'll try and catch-up properly next time. Big love to you all internet pals xxx

@purplefig hugs and love ❤️xx

@purplefig - I really hope you’re ok. I totally understand the internet not being good for your mental health; all too familiar at the moment.
Sending loads of love xx