June 2020 Babies-Newborn, snuggles, recovery, milk and night feeds! 2nd thread

[Busylizzie85]

New thread!

Thank you @Cornishbumpkin I guess I just really wanted to experience it and I was so tired I don't remember her being born via section and couldn't hold her for ages. I think I worry ( I'm a worrier can you tell ?!) that when I get pregnant again I have a huge decision over section or vbac and answering today I would defo go for vbac but my husband thinks I'm mad to want to go through that again. yeh she's here safe and sound I know that's the main thing. Xx

@Mj2196 sorry for your loss, hope you’re all doing ok x

We have also been having a lot of poo explosions, almost once a day. I have tried several different nappy brands and sizes and nothing seems to contain it! We were gifted huggies nature made size 3 recently so that’s what we’re using now even though she’s still a bit small for them.

Sleep has been very different each night but I see signs of it getting better... at least we have a 7pm bedtime down pretty well. She is still feeding several times a night and often refuses to go back down from 5/6am so I end up cradling her in the bed while she sleeps another hour or two... last night I woke up to her crying at 3am and she was sideways across the top of her bed and had somehow rolled over onto her tummy! She hasn’t even done that during the day yet and I think she got quite a shock to end up like that 😂

She’s sideways again now... (our room isn’t 31 degrees, the sensor is off)

Weaning - just once a day and don't drop any milk feeds if doing BLW. We will do lunch time when we have lunch to start. Very little will be swallowed and even less digested at the beginning - it sometimes comes out the same as it went in !

Has anyone moved their baby to their own room yet? Jia is turning 5 months tomorrow and I always assumed I would move her to her own room at 6 months but I’m not sure how I feel about it now.

Yes @UKtoSK and for the last 2 nights I've gone back to sleep in our room with dh ( we have a double bed in the nursery so I have been in there) and she's only woken once ! I'm thinking she must of been smelling my milk??

@mrssunshinexxx did she used to wake more when she was in with you?
My LO turns 6 months on the 13th and I really will miss her in with us but always said at 6 months I'd put her in her room.
She has pretty much outgrown the next to me crib. I am praying she sleeps better in her own room not smelling me and doesn't wake 3-5 times a night like she does currently.

I'm in the same boat @Smiffette our little ones were born on the same day and she still often wakes more than 3/4 times a night! I would like to move her in to her own room now as well but feeling pretty anxious about it.

@Busylizzie85 has she slept in her cot at all?
My LO has been taking day naps in there for about 4 weeks now, the longest she has slept for though is an hour and a half.... I'm assuming that's because it's day and that night will be better.
I am fully expecting her to take a few days to settle in there though at night. I'm still feeding to sleep though so just debating whether to get her settled in the room first as that's a new environment then work on the self soothing.

@Smiffette no she haven't for a long time mainly because during the day the room is to bright, I have not managed to get the curtain rail up and the blinds in there are rubbish! I need to nag my other half to hurry up and sort it so I can at least start with that. I still feed her to sleep as well, I have tried self soothing and she either cries and cries or it takes me over an hour to get her to sleep. 🙈

@Smiffette @Busylizzie85 also still feeding to sleep and still feeding 3-4 times a night most nights. I tried getting her to fall asleep in her bed with just shushing and stroking her face and it worked exactly once.
@mrssunshinexxx my friends both said their babies instantly slept better once they were in their own rooms. It’s like they’re hound dogs or something, sniffing our milk like that!

I think I will get her in her own cot over night and hopefully sleeping better. Then when I know we've both caught up on some much needed sleep, I'll have the energy to commit to self settling training

@Smiffette @UKtoSK @Busylizzie85
She used to wake me either hourly or 2 hourly. About a month ago I started putting her in her nursery for naps and I got our curtains lined so they are completely black out! I put her in very drowsy but awake she sleeps 35-60 mins in the am and 90-120 mins in the aft I wake her if she gets to 2 hours.
I came back in the bed in her nursery Last night at 9.30pm because my husband wouldn't turn the bloody tv off in our room and it was waking me every 5 mins and she woke all night and was in bed with me from 4am. We have come to a compromise to stay in the lounge and the bedroom is for sleeping so going to stay in there tonight and hope she goes back to sleeping better 🤞🤞

@mrssunshinexxx good luck for tonight!!
That would seriously annoy me! We don't have a TV in our bedroom anymore so that shouldn't happen.

I'm really keen to get her in there but also I feel sad each time I think of her moving into her own room

Anyone else’s baby only roll from back to front? As soon as put her down on her back Grace rolls onto her tummy, but she hasn’t mastered how to roll back onto her back her. She doesn’t even attempt it, she’s more interested in trying to crawl 😯
But after a while she gets frustrated and cries. Anyone got any tips to encourage her to roll back onto her back? I do as much tummy time as she will put up with, I’ve tried gently showing her how to roll and I put her fave toys around her to encourage her.
I know it’s not a major issue but I feel like she’s be more content for longer if she could roll back and forth.
Hope everyone is ok, can’t believe we’re almost at the 6 month mark! Where has that time gone?

@Gigitree ivy has only a few times rolled from back to front and has no idea how to roll back again. I'm the same with tummy time I try to give her as much as she will tolerate but I think she's going to be one of those babies that just does not do any rolling and just goes straight to crawling or even walking 😱🤦🏻‍♀️

Be grateful @Busylizzie85. DD is now trying to roll to escape everything - nappy changes while I'm changing a dirty nappy, the next to me crib, everything !

@Gigitree yes🙋‍♀️Exactly the same here. My LO ALWAYS rolls on her front and does what looks like a press up! She has by accident rolled back on her back a couple of times in the past week so perhaps it will happen by the end of the year.

Can't believe we are almost at 6 months! I spend many of my days comparing my life to '1 year ago'. I came across my 'Baby on Board' badge for the London Underground in my handbag today. I have moved away from London now but I just can't imagine when I will ever get the tube again. It's like a different life (especially with the pandemic!).

My LO has just gone to bed after not sleeping since 3pm, so she was very ready. Huckleberry did suggest a nap at 5pm but I find that nap time so challenging so I try to skip it if possible. Does anyone else find this? My LO still has a varied wake up time - anytime between 5:30 and 7am which also means naps times vary.

@Magpie21 we are exactly the same, I still use the huckleberry app and I often have to skip the last nap if it says 5 as there is no way firstly she will nap then and secondly she'll be up fo most of the evening afterwards. I tried really hard for her to start getting up same time every day but nope it's always between 5:30-7 which then as you say throws off her day naps completely.
Her sleep/naps are so bad at the moment, she is only napping for about 1-2 hours a day on a good day and then wakes up constantly through the night, I really don't know how I function some days with so little sleep 😴

My LO is now an expert of rolling onto his tummy. Often accidentally rolls back onto his back!
It's so funny the similarities between babies. I, too, purposely skip the late afternoon nap. It just causes issues for night sleep.
Speaking of which, I need help! My LO is now stuck on this rubbish cycle of sleeping from 11/midnight, 2 wakes for boob in the night, then waking at 9am on average. I would really love to move the whole thing back by 3 or 4 hours. Any ideas?

@Magpie21 @Busylizzie85 mine is exactly the same with the 5pm nap. I find if it’s 4.30 I can manage to get her down for 20-30mins, but if it’s 5pm or later then it’s a no go, I normally end up putting her to bed around 6.30 instead.
Our morning wake up times vary wildly too as do nap lengths so bedtime is never set but generally falls between 6.30-7.30.
Her wake windows are generally around 2ish hours so if she’s still napping at 2.30 I will wake her to make sure I can get her to have another quick nap at 4.30pm and then ideally in bed for 7pm but I had to learn that the hard way when I let her nap till 3.30pm a few times and she had a melt down when I tried to get her to nap at 5.30pm!
I’m sure I read someone that their melatonin levels are at their lowest at that time of day so that’s why the last nap of the day is a struggle.

Got treated to a 6:15am wake time today! Feels like a treat as we've had lots of pre 6am wake ups this week. Glad that there are a few of us in the same boat regarding varied nap times - I think it shows that it is age related and also that hopefully it will improve as they get older and move around even more.

@Missgemini we had a 9/10pm bedtime in September and gradually week by week we have managed to get that forward to 7-730pm bedtime. The huckleberry app really helps me keep track of LO's sleep/eat schedule as you can compare the days/weeks and look out for patterns.

Am I the last one on the group still contact napping during the day!?! 😅 My LO's nursery will be set up in the new year so I will start putting her down then.

Thanks for the recommendation re the Huckleberry app. I will download it and check it out.

I'm finding the 4:30/5pm nap vital. If she doesn't have it, then the evenings are messed up as she then has one at bedtime, wakes up, and thinks she needs to be awake for another 2 hours, so bedtime is more like 10pm and I'm struggling to stay awake. If she has the tea time nap though, if she wakes once she's gone down at bedtime, she just wants to go back to sleep, so I find them easier to deal with as that just means feeding to sleep and is calm.

I think I'm definitely noticing a pattern regarding her night time sleep and how her naps have been. Last night was awful. She woke me 8 times, almost every hour. While she had had all three naps, she had only had 45 mins, 30 mins and 12 mins, so not enough day time sleep. Last week I had a few good nights with 3h and 4h stretches,
and they were all nights following days with good naps.

She's also trying to learn to self-settle but I think I need to help with that more rather than just letting her do it when she can. I've noticed she's not feeding to sleep much anymore, except at bedtime and during the night. Last week she came off the boob and wanted to go down, and self-settled for sleep 3x without help. But then I think her teeth started paining her and she went back to needing to be rocked instead, which is going backwards from where I wanted. She also gets frustrated in my arms, so I put her down and then she starts crying to be picked up again.

What strategies have people used to support self-settling? When she starts crying she ignores touching and stroking and "ssh", so I'm not sure what to do. This morning at 4:45am I had success with stroking and eye contact as she self-settled but she moaned/grizzled rather than cried.

Your not the only one @Magpie21 Ivy still does a lot!
Just a thought but I think it would be lovely to do a 6 month picture gallery of the LO's? it's been a long and hard 6 months for a lot of us but I know they keep us all going so it would be lovely to see all the babies again 😊

Re: weaning, we haven't started yet, not properly anyway. Last week I was so tired from the lack of sleep that a lot of the day felt like I was moving through a fog. I forgot all about preparing purees, double checking re how to start BLW and so on. She's six months tomorrow but she can't sit unsupported. She's had a tiny bit of mashed potato and a taste of banana today. She has all the signs except sitting unsupported, so I think I'll do some porridge and purees this week, if i can get my head around it, and then see how she's doing with those and sitting.

Regarding rolling. Charlotte actuary learnt front to back first and then seemed to forget she could. She's started doing it now the last couple of days, I think due to frustration that she can't crawl properly yet (she can go forward a little bit, but mostly backwards or turning round)

P.s sorry my posts are always long