June 2020 Babies-Newborn, snuggles, recovery, milk and night feeds! 2nd thread

[Busylizzie85]

New thread!

[I’m with you on the absolute joy at the older one going back to nursery! I couldn’t be happier!!! She starts back tomorrow , it will be sooo good to have some peace and quiet during the day and for her to be more stimulated. That sounds awful doesn’t it, I adore her but I have found it hard with her vying for attention.]

I’ve just come across this thread and this post on the first page has made me so relieved.

I have a 2.5 year old dd and a 16 week old dd. My god the toddler is hard work, the baby is so easy in comparison.

I was looking for nurseries for DD1 when Covid hit so never actually sent her. I felt like I couldn’t send her to nursery now as I don’t “Need” the childcare. I also felt such a bad mum for being jealous of all my friends sending their older children off to school.

DD1 needs more stimulation and given no play groups are open around here, I think I have no choice but to send her to nursery.

Yes Esme is definitely passing more wind! It’s really difficult with no support isn’t it. My HV never responds to any of my messages so I just gave up with her! I found the NCT helpline very good and surprisingly, totally non judgemental. xo

Thanks @mangoforbreakfast86 I'll give the health visitor the benefit of the doubt first and then contact the NCT all I need really is someone just to say it's normal and persevere I'm just such a worry wart 🙈

@APD1981 thanks for your message, and good to hear from you again.
Those are solid blocks of sleep he's having.
The way to get my LO to sleep is to boob him for 1.5 hours (which usually starts at 8). By 930pm, he's finally asleep, but wakes again at 12 for next feed. 4 month regression kicked in recently and we've been more all over the place. But I'll persevere with the routine and I'm sure one day he'll suddenly have that long stretch.

Ladies, I was speaking to my sister's friend yesterday. Her six month old baby sleeps 7pm to 7am! Can you even imagine that?!!!
So exciting!

@Missgemini I haven't posted for a while but have been reading through all the sleep stuff. Benji is EBF and was an absolute nightmare of 1 - 2 hour wake ups but just recently has surprised us with a run of 8 hour sleeps! We couldn't believe our luck so I didn't want to say it out loud in case I jinxed it! 😬 I tend to feed him more during the day, he has a bath then boob and generally falls asleep somewhere between 7 and 9pm and wakes between 4 and 6. We chose to sacrifice our evenings together for a bit to keep the later bedtime as when he went straight to bed at 6 he woke loads in the night! I'm absolutely convinced it'll all come crashing down with the looming 4 month regression but wanted to reassure you it can come out of the blue and breast fed babies can sleep nice long stretches as I was doubting it could ever happen!

Thanks @BabyBird20 we are hopeful :)

@Busylizzie85 hope you are able to get in touch with your HV. I’m the same - before I became a mum I was so relaxed but now I’m the opposite! Would you mind passing on any useful advice? Also, quick question - have you now replaced all bf feeds with formula feeds and how long did it take you? xo

@Busylizzie85 when we switched to formula early on I had all the same worries and questions that we ended up discussing with consultants due to my little ones bad reflux issues. From what they said, it does take babies a little while to adjust to formula and they are far 'windier' on it. It's harder for their digestive systems to cope with, but like everything they adjust fairly quickly just can take a little while.

With formulas - we started on Aptamil and I found it quite thick and bubbly - it seemed that it was harder to digest for my little one. We ended up on the Hipp Organic formula which I think is thinner and easier to digest so this might be a good one to start with. But all babies are different and overall we have tried 4 different formulas!!

@mangoforbreakfast86 I haven't been able to call today we opted for a day out Instead so I'll try and call tomorrow but of course I'll pass on any info! I dropped a feed every 3 days but other advice says once a week. I think I may have tried to quickly which is why she's struggling but your baby may adapt better. I have been still feeding her boob at night and morning just for the ease and that's when she fed the best so it would always be the last to go if and when.

Thanks @SRS1311 I think I'll try the hipp I know a lot of mums using it.

@Busylizzie85 Thank you so much. Hope you had a lovely day out. 😊 I’ll try and take it slow even though I’m eager to get her fully switched over ASAP xo

Oh my days what a stroppy little madam we have on our hands this past week.
Waking more during the night, sleeping for no longer than 15mins during the day & stirring from 4:30am, sometimes only taking 3oz of her 6oz bottle.
Someone tell me it gets better 🤦‍♀️

@Zoey92 Welcome to the club! I think a lot of us are going through this now so watch this space 😴☺️

We don't seem to have massive changes to feeds or overnight sleep. Just general grumpiness throughout the day and then outright screaming before naps.

@magpie21 im so thankfull for this group, being a FTM things like sleep regression i hadnt heard of & I'll be honest me and my HV just have not clicked at all.
I honestly started thinking i was doing something wrong.

@Pegase yes that too the screaming before the naps because shes soo tired

Me and dp have got into a routine baby wakes up I feed, he looks and says what time it is , I tell him what number get up it is 🤣 u can imagine my surprise when we’d all crawled into bed at 9.30 for him to say it’s 1am and i could reply it’s number one 😳 we had 2 2hour blocks after that aswell . It felt so weird compared to hourly get ups , however it’s 16week injections today I have a feeling I’ll be living off that sleep for the rest of the week 😩

Just popping on here to see if anyone else has hit the 4 month sleep regression too... we are also getting outright screaming meltdowns before naps and when going down for bed. Oddly pram naps and going down after a night feed is ok!

At least we are not alone!

@mangoforbreakfast86 finally spoken to the health visitor who was really very helpful and I feel better for having the chat! She said basically that I should pick a formula and stick to it as essentially they are all the same and baby need to get used to one, she advised using colief for the first 10 days with the formula to help with the digestion and then ween off of it.
Going to try one feed a day of 3 ounces and increase to two feeds depending on how she goes. If she continues to only have 1-2 ounces then to call her back after a week.
I'm not sure if there is a private message thing on here but if you know of an option and need to go through things as we are in the same boat please feel free 😊

So my LO slept through without a feed last night, which was great. We did have the usual stirring for the dummy etc a couple of times but we always have that. Might be a one off but il take it!!

Has anyone tried or considered an online sleep training course? I'm worried that my LO has a couple of sleep habits that should be cracked and I'm not sure where to start!

Just reading through and I've been reminded I have 12 week injections on Monday! She will actually be 16 weeks but because the clinic was full, then we were away, then there was no clinic, they are late!! Which is so annoying as it means over still got to her have e 16 week ones in another 4 weeks after that!
I suppose it gets it out the way at the same time as leap 4 and sleep regression!! she was absolutely fine after the first set, a little clingy but no different in sleep ...

those who have had the 2nd / 3rd sets of injections, did you find LO's reacted the same?

@Magpie21 we know someone who did sleep training at 4 months old, putting them in their cot in their own room. It was effective as he slept from 7pm till 7am after a couple of nights! Not sure if I'd be ready to do that at 4 months - it was effectively the controlled crying method.

Out of curiosity what bad habits do you think your little one has got into? Ours is quite reliant on his dummy to self soothe which I'm hoping to get him out of in the future as it's so annoying to have to repeatedly put it back in for him through the night!

@Smiffette we have the 12 week injections a week today! Hoping it doesnt alter his sleep!

@Magpie21 that’s amazing I’m so jealous

I did buy the 0-3 month course from justchillbabysleep as they seemed really awesome from their instagram. But it was a load of bollocks and just made me feel like a piece of shit, so I got a refund.

@Smiffette for some reason Grace was a lot more grizzly after the second lot and she got a high temp too which I wasn’t expecting as they tell you that you don’t need calpol after these ones. But like with everything, every baby is different and lots of the ladies from my NCT said their babies were absolutely fine after the second lot.

Having a shit day where it feels like Grace has done nothing but scream/cry all day long. I wolfed down a half cold dinner in 2 mins so we could do bath time and bedtime before she got over tired. Was just in bed giving her her nighttime feed and she burped and then vomited all over me, the bed, her bed, the floor all down herself etc. 😩😩😩

She’s passed out on me now after a frantic clean up from me and hubby, but no doubt she’ll be awake in no time absolutely ravenous 😩😩
Once I can eventually put her down I’ll be able to go and have a shower and wash the milky puke out of my hair.

How do people have more than one baby?
I feel like I’m absolutely failing at this mum life stuff.

You’re not @Gigitree. She is fed, clean, clothed and loved. You are doing an incredible job and it honestly honestly gets better.

Thank you @Magpiefeather I really appreciate it ❤️

Omg I love this group! We have suddenly gone from 7/8 hr stretches to 3/4hrs and definitely thought I was doing something wrong and can't get him to nap in the day without a lot of persuasion! Sounds like it the same as everyone else though!

@Gigitree I had one of those days the other day, I felt like a total failure as all he had done all day was scream at me. I burst into tears when hubby got home as the little tyke stopped screaming and smiled for his daddy! He also showered myself, him and the bed in puke the other night!