June 2020 Babies-Newborn, snuggles, recovery, milk and night feeds! 2nd thread

[Busylizzie85]

New thread!

@mangoforbreakfast86 I gave up bf after only 2 weeks when we were hit with nipple /breast thrush. I could not bear the pain. LO is happy and healthy and I feel much stronger mentally.

@Zoey92 Same! LO waking at 4:30am last few days and difficult to settles relieved that we are in the same boat, hopefully it will pass soon! We have been spoilt so far haven't we 😅

LO has been down for an hour and I'm still here scrolling on my phone!

I was looking at my dates and realised it's been a year since we successfully tried for our LO. And in early October will be when we found out. What a journey the last year has been!

Yes i think we have been spoilt @Magpie21 previously she was having her last bottle around 10/11 and going till about 5/6am which was fab because that chunk of sleep was perfect.
Honestly i even started thinking "am idping something wrong" being a FTM an all that.

Oh yes the year has flown!! I had my implant removed 22nd AUG & got a BFP on 11th OCT. We had no time frame or pressure on it just "happens when it happens" but jeeesus did not think it would be that quick😂 Honestly i feel the whole thing flew (apart from first 12wks) & now LO is exactly 3month today CRAZY
Sorry im waffling i may be over tired & overthinking 🤦‍♀️

Re bleeding: I had the implant put in at the hospital a day after my LO was born. This meant that I bled for a crazy long time (maybe 11 weeks? Lost count). Then had a reprieve. 2 weeks of no bleeding. Now period again! Grrrrrrrr. This happened with my last implant. I know it'll eventually settle. It's not like we're even having sex at the moment! Haha

Reading the above posts are bringing back so many memories. This time last year, I was doing on average 3 pregnancy tests a day for a good week! It was so exciting seeing that line!

2:30am and the little one is guzzling down a bottle!

@Zoey92 We have similar stories...I also got my BFP on 11 October😊 and now we have babies that smile back at us!. @Missgemini I remember seeing the positive and thinking thinking 'wow I have to give birth now!'. If you had told me there would be a pandemic and I would start labouring in the hospital ALONE I wouldn't have believed you! What a year..

Yeh, from what everyone is saying and a bit of dr google it seems like it's to be expected that period a are a bit all over the place.

For anyone stopping breastfeeding - make sure to do it gradually like @Busylizzie85 when I stopped I did it fairly suddenly, partly because there was no real advice and also because of things going on at the time. Last month I discovered a lump in my breast and after a couple of weeks of worry and scans it turned out to be an abcess from breastfeeding. I think because I stopped suddenly some milk got left in the milk ducts and this turned into an infection (mastitis) and then an abcess. So gradual is definitely best!

Not to rub it in, but my LO slept from 7.45 till 7am last night!! Couldnt believe it, hes never done that before and usually wakes in the night for a bottle at 2ish. I think they do these things to tease us though as it wont last!!

Wow so jealous of all the babies only waking once or not at all in the night 😮 we had been doing really well with a stretch of 5 hours first followed by 2-3 hours until morning which was great but then leap 3 hit and it has been a complete shit show since then. I am more exhausted than I have ever been.

Also been thinking about this time last year. We started trying in summer 2018 but had a lot of trouble with irregular cycles after coming off the pill and finally a year ago in September we were told we would need IVF if we wanted to conceive. I knew I’d be ovulating first weekend of October though thanks to an ultrasound so my husband was determined to not have to spend the money on IVF haha and we had a nice weekend away and then on October 18th we got the surprise positive! I’m looking forward to celebrating that next month.

@SRS1311 oh my goodness - that sounds painful and super stressful for you. 😩 thank you for the tip. 😊 xo

@UKtoSK
Don’t worry you’re not alone, Grace still wakes multiple times per night, but a few times I can just get away with giving her a dummy and stroking her arm and she eventually drifts off again. She will need at least one or two feeds per night usually though. Hard to believe two of my friends’ babies were regularly sleeping through the night at this age, so much so the went in their own rooms at 3/4 months of age! Totally Bonkers to me!

Anyone got any tips to help settle baby for naps in the late afternoon? Grace fights her last nap of the day so hard it’s the time of day I dread the most! 😩
When do babies drop this nap?? 😫😫

@UKtoSK @Gigitree Ivy wakes at least twice if not three times a night still also, not sure when she'll ever sleep through!
@Gigitree ivy hates the last nap of the day she fights it and cry's everyday 🙄 I don't know of any tips but I'd be grateful for them as well. Normally I end up just singing to her until she stops, she seems to like silent night being sung I have no idea why I started singing it but now I do it all the time 😂. It's also normally the shortest nap of the day.

Wow @Busylizzie85 that sounds so much like Grace. She needs to be rocked, shhh’d and bum patted for ages and ages before she finally drifts off, yeah I’m lucky if that nap is any longer than 30mins tbh, she cries and gets so worked up I can’t see how I would ever be able to get her to ‘self settle’ for that nap!

@SRS1311 That's great! Hopefully it becomes a pattern for a while.

@UKtoSK That is so lovely! I will definitely toast to the year mark as well!

@Gigitree Ha I feel months away from putting the LO in her own room. The only tip I can suggest is to put her to sleep in a dark room. I'm in the same boat. Today my LO only slept for 20 mins on her last nap..

@Gigitree my baby hard work in general for naps at the mo but last one of the day always worst. I tend to just put her in the sling and I try not to let it stress me out too much as she does sleep through the night so I'm trying to enjoy this before the sleep regression and teething kicks in
No idea why I still feel exhausted

Yep my baby wakes lots in the night too for feeds - he’s EBF and we are bedsharing so to be honest I don’t even try settling him any other way, just get him latched and go back to sleep! Also because he has had slow weight gain I don’t mind giving him more feeds. Although it is now 3 weeks since his tongue tie division and this last week he has really chunked out, feeding much much better, shorter feeds, spread a bit further apart and is more satisfied after. Way less gassy too. So I think we’ve turned a corner. Anyway I’d say he wakes after about 4 hours, then after another 2, then pretty constantly until we get up at about 6.30 - 7.

He has a definite pattern to his naps - usually 4 naps a day - still all on me though. Occasionally I will be able to put him in his cot for the first nap of the day but it does shorten it (and he has to be asleep when I put him down). He is such a happy soul when he’s had the right amount of sleep, so for now I’m just rolling with it. Did the same with DD until about 5 months then started a regime of all naps being in the cot. May do similar this time as it did work. I adore the sling as he gets to nap on me and I get use of my arms.

Last nap of the day is hardest for us too, I generally put him in the sling and walk around the house briskly for a while. Then pop his head in the sling too so he can’t see - sounds cruel but he gets distracted otherwise!!! Like a horse with blinkers I guess. And then after a few minutes he’ll acknowledge he is sleepy and rest his head on my chest, a few more laps and he’s out. Or I carry on doing what I’m doing, making dinner or playing with dd or whatever, but bouncing or rocking at the same time and he’ll go to sleep. I do sometimes long for a break from holding his weight but I happen to have been given a Velcro baby so I think it’s easier to change what I do than what he does!

Ooh something I did mean to ask this lovely group...

Any advice on I introducing a bottle? Now that breastfeeding is finally going well I am loathe to mess with it, and don’t really want to to be honest, but I am going back to work just one full day a week in January (so he’ll be 6 months), DH will be looking after him and obviously he’ll need to take a bottle then. I didn’t try one sooner because he was relearning how to use his tongue after the tongue tie snip, and didn’t want to risk him preferring the fast flow of the bottle. I may have left it too late even.... any tips? don’t know which feed to do it at? Bedtime makes the most sense I suppose.

@Magpiefeather gets bottle that has natural nipple shape we use dr browns colic plus I think they are quite new maybe start expressing now if you have the time and start giving him one every few days I wouldn't wait until jan as he could well refuse
I gave my baby a bottle of breast milk maybe once a week since she was 3 weeks old so she didn't refuse one she started to refuse it at around 8 weeks I just ignored it and stopped offering for a couple weeks then tried again and she was fine x

@Magpiefeather make sure baby I tired/ hungry but not too far gone
Are you going to get your husband to feed the first one if so I would advise him laying one of your items of clothing on his chest

Is there such a thing as a 2.5 month sleep regression? 😫 Jia has always been such a good sleeper at night, but since last Tuesday almost every night has been awful. I am hoping it’s just the 12 week leap and will go back to normal soon... last night was hell. Anyone else find this and it got better again?

@UKtoSK my baby has been sleeping on average 9-6.30 since 9 weeks old which obviously I am so grateful for but I feel as though I am going to be in for a hellish 4 month regression and I'm genuinely scared of coping wjth no sleep again

Hope your little one starts playing ball soon! Is her temperature ok at night? It's gone really cold in the uk where I am so put a blanket over her in sleeping bag

@UKtoSK short answer is no 😭 ivy was also a decent sleeper certainly for the first part of the night but recently she's up at least 3 times most nights and last night she was up every two hours from 10pm I'm shattered ☹️ I don't know whether it's just sleep regression or she's not having enough formula now during the day where I have been swapping her over either way it's very hard at the moment. She's now having a lie in probably exhausted herself through the night where as my back is hurting and wide awake 🤦🏻‍♀️
I hope Jia gets over this bump soon for you x

Glad I’m not the only one suffering with sleep . J has gone from feeding all calm to sleep to having an absolute breakdown . He smacked my glasses off in his arm flinging temper 😂. We went from 3 hours to 2 hours now it’s generally up at 12,2,3,4,5,5.45 and then he may go back off till 6.30 some days. Also Feeding every time he wakes . Dd wakes at 5.30 every day but she sleeps from 7. Nights are spent feeding & Pacing round the bedroom shushing and rocking. My app says we have 31 days until the end of this leap 🤯😳

Following your comment. @Magpiefeather I have a keep in touch day at work in 2 weeks ready for a full time January return and a sudden bottle refuser! . We’ve tried medela and mam bottles with no luck 👎

@UKtoSK I think we are at similar points - was yours a week over due aswell? If so, that would put you firmly in the 3rd leap and also close to the 3 month growth spurt. Could be the two things combined that are meaning poor sleep!

@Mj2196 I'm guessing your in the 4th leap? Sounds absolutely horrendous - I'm dreading it and especially how long it is

@UKtoSK We are going through the exact same thing with our LO. Our bad patch started on Sunday and we are still in it. Last night was slightly better as she put her in a 2.5 tog sleeping bag. Last night it took ours to settle her to sleep.

@Mj2196 I'm not loving the arm flinging...

@mrssunshinexxx Jia had been doing 9-2 then 2-5/6 then up at 7/7:30 for weeks before it all broke down! I hope you don’t suffer too much or skip the regression altogether! It’s cooling down here at night but our room still gets hot, it’s always at least 25 degrees in there, we still turn the air con on some nights.

@Busylizzie85 we had an every two hour night which I thought was bad but last night she refused to sleep until 10:30 then woke up 45 minutes later and wouldn’t sleep until 1am, had to be resettled at 2:30, up at 4 for a feed and was tough to get back down, then again at 6:30. I’m sure she woke up a few times in between that I’m not remembering too.

@SRS1311 yeah I think I remember your LO was born July 6 right? When was your due date? Jia was born July 5 but due June 27 so a week and a day overdue which puts her just out of the third leap now but I think she’s extended it 😫 or maybe it’s the growth spurt following on from the leap as you say. Either way I hope it’s done soon!