MAY 07 Post natal - This time a year ago it was all just beginning, look at us now...........................

[Mrsjaffabiffa]

Morning........

pebble poor you, sending you lots of love and hoping things feel better for you soon.

Poor you Pebble - you must be feeling v drained emotionally and physically. Take it easy - and more of that online retail therapy! Hawkins is great at Christmas! lots of love A

Oh Pebble poor you. So sorry that you have been through such a tough time. Big hugs to you xx

Pebble sweetie, I'm so sorry you've had a rough few weeks. And I'm glad you are feeling a little better now, Remember we are all here for you to rant/talk if things get you down and you feel you need to. xxx

J can't breath.

Poor you Pebble. Sorry to hear you have had such a crap time.

Poor J Mrs JB.

Loads of people round us been coming down with a sick bug so we are keeping fingers crossed but apparently there is so much about.

Reading todays Mumsnet tip made me think how the hell do they know that shaving foams makes sick hard!! Might be worth keeping a mental note of though.

C just woke up so better go and get him up for lunch (he has been there since 10.15). Started today giving him breakfast before the school run and a b/f 10 am ish before a sleep. Might make mornings a bit easier.

I have my secrat santa person too but am having a mental blank on what to buy!!

Also meant to post about my first AF since having C. It came on sat when he was 26 weeks old.

Its really extremely heavy and a bit clotty and painful. Is this normal. DP keeps telling me to go to Drs but I think its probably normal after not having one for so long.

Oh Pebble how awful for you. I bet that was such a huge shock to you, you dont think of being pregnant but having neg tests and AF too. Hope you manage to recover soon, lots of love to you xxx

MrsJB poor little J, carvol is good on her cot mattress and medised. Can you get them both out there?

Cam i cant believe you will have a nanny! I would have dozens more if i had a nanny! How is the packing going? B has just started sitting up too, he does fall forward a little but is mostly stable.

TYG im pretty sure B would not drink any where near what the tin says, he only drinks 6-7 oz before bed. If he has had a bottle during the day he would only have 4-5oz. Dont worry and im sure her size is nothing to be concerned about either, B is still tiny. Think he wieghs about 15lb now. She is obviously fine as she has enough energy to crawl How is that going?

DD started her new school yesterday, she was so good and very happy. They were all good last night, as i drove back from picking up Jonah i felt my vision go all fuzzy. By the time i got home everything was soft focus and i had flashing lights. I knew it was a migraine I quickly made up the lunchboxes for the next day and gave them fish fingers and waffles for tea. They were all ready for bed by 530 while i died on the couch till 8 when i could finally move again. They all disappeared at one point and came down with a get well card for me They covered me up and whispered round me, i was so proud of them all. By 10 it had gone totally, no idea where it came from. I had about 3 in a row summer before last for no reason. Not good, really hope that is it for a while.

Typically dh is away this week in Dartmouth, could have really done with him being home.

All over now though, have been to work this morning. Lots of lovely babies, i had 2 9 week olds and a 7 week old baby! Tiny compared to B now!

Must go and hoover while B is asleep, the floor is shocking. Bad housewife

Pebble

Hope you're feeling better soon xx

Pebble, I'm so, so sorry. You poor love.

LG&T - How lovely of the kids. Awh.

Thanks all, re the feeding advice. I feel much better now.

I can only be incredibly quick. Have been MIA as our computer died, had to buy new one, couldn't get back on the net etc etc. Tis a whole boring computer story that I'm not even interested in. Bet you didn't notice I was missing.

Just wanted to say hi to Pebble and offer hugs/chocolates/a shoulder/whatever you need. I had a miscarriage a couple of months before I conceived M and was wholly unprepared for how it would hit me. Oh and the insensitivity of medical procedures was heartbreaking. 'Products of conception' is one of the most hideous descriptions I had to listen to. Take it easy. It's normal to feel sad/angry/guilty/lonely/letdown and a whole range of other emotions. Be kind to yourself. You know where I am.

Hawkins Bazaar is great btw. M has a jack in the box!

Must go as we need to go into town for some reason or other.

PS I have a webcam!

PPS Christmas meet is in Norfolk. Tis all booked.

We have a spinning top

Its all go in the Cam household and all on a smidgeon of sleep as J was up and down all night and I broke the golden Cam rule and let him come into bed with me so that it didn't disturb ds1. Blasted teeth. Is J a little better today MrsJB? Poor wee thing.

Is B eating anything LG&T? I can't seem to get J interested...

So there is a man upstairs banging away (drag those filthy minds OUT of the gutter) putting in a new bedroom carpet and new bathroom floor, J is asleep on his big sister's bed, the estate agents leave a message on my machine yesterday whilst I was out saying 'we have had to change the viewing on your house to 12.30, sorry' What viewing?? Noone told me anything about a viewing. Its too late to call them back so manage to catch them this morning and yes there is a viewing so now the carpet man is here and won't be finished in time aaaahhh. At least the house is now spotless

I'm also trying to do a mound of Christmas shopping via the internet as hicksville has a Primark and thats about it. Oh and like in Norfolk, plenty of museums of rural life . Very helpful, not. And I need buy all the things we need to take with us. Life is one big round of shopping

Someone, anyone, must have some tips for getting rid of J's cradle cap? I've tried Dentinox and baby oil - its just not shifting.

Cradle cap - Boots do a cradle cap moisturising cream. I massaged it into A's dry head about 20 mins before a bath, then before the bath wet her head and massaged it in more and used a soft nailbrush to massage and loosen the flakes. Wash with Dentinox. Worked a treat and only needed about 3 nights of doing that to get the worst of it off.

Pebble - sorry to hear your news, thinking of you, XX

LGT and anyone else in area, let me know if you want to meet up still, can do any days except for thursday and Fridays

will check out that baazaar (sp?) www, want a spinning top for G, got him one of them flying suacer thingys in the elc sale, a third off!

G had some broccoli the other day, he had great fun, not sure if any ended up in his mouth though, cue complete change of clothes. Carrot today.

went to put the babywipes in the fridge today, honestly!

Off to grab Lunch before G wakes

J is not really any better cam She too slept in our bed last night for the first time since she was tiny, she slept on her back [shock) all night between us. This afternoon she went up for her nap and screamed the place down so I put her back in the middle of our bed with her light show on the ceiling and she slept for 3hrs on her back again. little Monkey.... it's hard not to let routine slip when they look so poorly and upset though.

Cradle cap, I've always used Dentinox but it does need using everyday for about a week - 10 days and you do have to use your nails gently on their scalp with it I find.

Cradle cap - I put grapeseed oil in bath (to help with eczema that S seems to be developing - aargh!) and then swill the oily water over his head and rub gently with a towel. have spent many a happy hour picking the dried bit of cc off his head - is that TMI? sorry!

I bought and wrapped my secret santa yesterday.

Mum2G lol at the cold baby wipes that would have given G a shock if you'd left them there.

lg&t/Soh when is it you two lovelies are getting together?

SOH, of course we noticed you were MIA, it has been very quiet on here though recently. Does that mean everyone has nearly got their lifes back.

Mum2G i do things like that when im pregnant!!

Poor little J MrsJB, give her a hug from me. Beau has only really sttled in to a routine again since he was poorly after those last lot of jabs. All back to normal now though, whatever normal is.

Life back? PMSL Im still bloody waiting fro one to develp never mind get it back...

Cradle cap nightmare, not Beau, Hugs! He has masses of blonde curls and still manages to get it! I scrub and pick with shampoo and loads of conditioner. He is a little bigger than our babies though so i can be a bit mean

The car is back from it's MOT, wahoooo. All ok and only cost £141 so not too bank breaking.

DD fell asleep in her English class today! She is off to bed early tonight Wish i could fall asleep in class....

SOH i have facebooked you, where are you? Popping in is not good enough, i need some love

Cam meant to say that Beau is tucking in to food with great gusto! Mouth open like a starved bird, cereal is favourite. Bannana a huge hit!

Hope it is a bit calmer in the CAM household now. At least you will have plenty of British contacts to mail you anything you forget this time. We may have to resort to bloody Royal Mail to communicate with you I magine that, reciveing actual letters!!!

Hi all. Hope things are good.
pebble, so sorry to hear your sad news. Hope you are beginning to pick yourself back up. We're all here you know that.
I am becoming increasingly concerned about Ruby and I'm really looking for some advice. I started weanin her a while ago and at first she was really inrerested and ate a lot, although wouldn't touch anything savoury. Recently though she has become less and less interested in food and doesn't drink 5 7oz bottles a day either. She has started having little yoghurts for breakfast and loves them but has now developed terrible runny poo. I don't just mean sloppy, it is just yellow water and nothing else. She is not ill in herself anf it is no more frequent so not like a tummy bug. I was wondering if the yogurts were affecting her so I'm stopping them now. DO you think it is possible she has some kind of food intolerance/allergy? I'm getting myself increasingly worked up about this. Someone at work said something in passing about maybe a dairy allergy and it's kind of stuck in my head. She's always had normal formula, although has always been a windy, crying after a feed kind of baby. Would it be possible for her to have a dairy allergy and still be ok on normal formula? Then I worry maybe she's got something wrong with her inside meaning she can't tolerate the food. It's probably just nothing but I can't get it out of my head and I'm sick of getting clothes trashed by yellow water. Does anyone have any idea what this could be? I don't want to waste the drs time if I'm being some neurotic freak mother - would you take yours or not? I know I sound really needy and pathetic about this but it's really worrying me.

No neurotisicism on your part Abby, it could well be the dairy. You may not have noticed it with her just having formula as there are different levels of Lactose in formula milk than in regular milk\dairy products. I would take her to see your GP and ask for allergy testing.

My ds#4 was dairy intolerant, he was bf till he was 16mths and not really a huge eater. I only noticed it when he went on to cows milk when i finally stopped bf. He grew out of it by the time he was 3 and a half. He had awful poo and sometimes a rash too. Very hard to get him tested, i eneded up taking him to the GP who prescribed soya milk (as it was sooo expensive)He was allergy tested privately in the end. He then became intolerant to that, then to goats milk. He ended up having rice milk and i had to make extra careful he got lots of calcium from different sources.

Dont worry and it may be nothing. Some bugs are like this and the doctor will ask for a specimen to test to rule out any kind of bug first. They can take a very long time to go too.

Abby, it's more likely to be something to do with the yoghurt cultures or the fruit juice for sweetness making her poo runny. Could also be the volume of dairy as it can cause a slight lining in the colon and make poo runny - even in adults. Stop the yoghurt and see what happens. If she has a cows milk protein or lactose intolerance, then I think that the formula would have shown this up as it contains both. Stop giving her the yoghurts and if after a couple of days, the poo isn't back to normal then I would seek advice - just in case.

I gave A a bit of toast crust to suck today. She seemed quite impressed.

We went to baby "sign and rhyme" today. It's very, very cute. Obviously the babies can't sign back yet, but if I do it every day with her, the teacher thinks she could start signing back in about 6 weeks or so. So far I can sign to "Three Little Ducks went swimming one day", "Old McDonald" and sign things like Mammy, Daddy, sister, please, milk, food and more.

How's that for conflicting advice!? Go with what LG&T said, she knows more than me.

Haha, you two grandes dames can battle it out

Abby my tuppenceworth goes like this - both dd and ds1 'allegedly' had bacterial stomach infections at 6 weeks inspite of being bf and their poo went watery, smelly and mucosy. Is hers stringy and mucosy? They both had antibiotics and the dr said dairy products can exacerbate an already upset tummy and often small babies are extremely sensitive. I stopped eating all dairy for about a week and it seemed to help, though they were both obviously on anti-bs. Personally I would stop all dairy and go back to your usual formula alone for a couple of days and if it doesn't get better then go to the docs. Most importantly go with your instinct, if you feel its right to go to the docs, then go, don't worry about what the docs (or anyone else!) might think of you.

Thanks TYG and anneme for the cradle cap advice, I think I have been a little too gentle up to now so I dentinoxed and rubbed it in quite hard and gave his head a good rub with the towel and some of it came off! I'll carry on tomorrow.

AbbyLou, you must not worry what the dr or people will think about taking her. Often a Mother's intuition is the best so if you are concerned you should take her for your peace of mind. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.

J has gone to bed this evening, it must have been that hug from you lg&t, settled her down just nicely.

TYG, I'm very jealous of your signing class. When Harrison was born I worked with the learning dis team. Key word signing was the only way to communicate with most of our clients. It became something I did naturally and often found myself signing to my Mum or friends whilst chatting. Doh....
h picked it up really quickly and it was fantastic being able to communicate with him well before he could talk. He often signed, hungry, tired, drink, walk, park, daddy work and lots more, the only thing was that the family and friends that looked after him when I went to work had to learn all his signs too. lol It's amazing how quickly you forget them though when not signing all the time. There's so much I can't remember now. Do they tell you to always say the word at the same time as signing to enable the baby to hear the word aswell as learn the sign? we had to do this with our clients but I've not been to baby signing before.

LMAO TYG... Listen to yourself Abby your the best qualified. Trouble is each baby is different, there are no rules to follow

Glad little J is ok MrsJB, could you send B a hug? He woke earlier and will not settle, was having a lovely chat with ALM in msn too.

Night