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MAY 07 Post natal - This time a year ago it was all just beginning, look at us now...........................

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Mrsjaffabiffa · 24/09/2007 07:43

Morning........

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Pinkjenny · 24/09/2007 20:05

LG & T - my fave person!

I know, I know, she's just my baby and I worry so much. I was thinking of you this evening, as I've made an orange cheesecake from the latest Slimming World magazine, it looks absolutely revolting. I can hear Nigella berating me somewhere in the distance. Although once I reach my target weight, I am rewarding myself with the chocolate fudge cake in Nigella Bites.

I know I don't post enough, I'm rubbish. Been going to Aerobics three times a week to try and shift this weight. Turns out baby weight is much harder to lose. Dh keeps saying, I did say when you were pregnant.... Oh, bugger off.

Pinkjenny · 24/09/2007 20:11

I've put a new pic on as well. Its from last month as we haven't put the most recent ones on the laptop yet x

cameroonmama · 24/09/2007 20:48

aaaahhh Pink, she is adorable!

Sorry about the rash, I remember dd having the same at about 7 months, i was in London and got short thrift from the doc, it leaves you feeling totally useless and paranoid. As they get older you get used to being able to distinguish between off colour and really sick and if you are a facist kind of mummy like me, you only keep them off school if they can barely raise their head off the sofa

Good title MrsJB! The plan is to move to Nairobi on Jan 2 so I am shopping for things to take . Internet connection is always a bit dodge out there so I need to get my fill her while I can.

Gosh sorry to hear there are a lot of mischevious toddlers out there, I have to admit that stage does seem very tiring but it soon passes and once they get to 3 they are so cute (well the boys are anyway, the girls just learn better how to manipulate you ) New babies often unsettle little ones, I remember bursting into tears about dd's behaviour on the shoulder of a total stranger, when ds1 was about 3 months old. Hang on in there you are doing a great job, raising future geniuses is not easy

LG&T, the carrot is now going down vvvvvvv well, apples it is, when do we start?

Just remind me how soon after starting solids should they start sleeping through the night

Mrsjaffabiffa · 24/09/2007 21:21

Jenny, they are lovely pictures, she is a sweetie and yes, definately sweet enough to eat. Rashes are sent to haunt us. Viral rashes are the worst too as they are always slightly different and the dr's never know why, oh it's just a viral rash is all you get, geee yeah! JUST!! Hope it clears quickly and she is better soon.
Are you going to SW class? Do they still do the Hi Fi bars???? I'm doing slimming world on line but they don't sell any of their stuff on it. I really miss the HI-FI bars, choc orange were just the best........ If you are and they do and I sent you the dosh, inc p&p would you consider getting some for me? I feel a bit cheeky asking but I was thinking about it the other evening and I don't know anyone in the UK that still goes to class now.

lg&t, could I send A for some lessons with N? A is fab in every other way but sometimes I do wish he could whipp up a culinary delight for us to save me the job. Sorry you've had a busy day.

AM, my lovely, I didn't realise you were so sad. Pack Jack up and over to me for a little holiday, I have a nice tree house and I'll give him a blanket if it's cold. He will get better honest, but it's hard, you feel like nothing is working, he doesn't listen, he doesn't respond to praise if he's good, time out and all the things they are supposed to respond to. Keep consistent with him and talk to nursery about how they deal with him etc..... keep your chin up chic in not so long he'll flip to being a delightful young man, you won't know where it came from but you'll like it and hope he stays. (that was shorter than 15mins) just

TYG and scoot, Jorja is developing a cold, it's perfect timming so that she doesn't have to have her last lot of jab's next week I'm sure. She's a snot filled bubba last night and today, spent all night wriggling and sniffeling in her bed, her sheet was covererd in snot this morning along with her face, hair, eyebrows. Lovely! We too have been squirting saline up her nose but she is NOT impressed with it, nor is she fond of any medicine I try to give her. I have tried Calpol and Medised now on separate occassions and both she gagged on and spat out refusing to swallow. I won't tell you how I get her to swallow it as you'll all think it's cruel.......... got to be cruel to be kind sometimes.

SOH where are you???? Sending you lots of love and really hope you are all on the mend.

Hope everyone has a good night. xxx

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scootermum · 24/09/2007 21:24

10 years Cam..

Internet connection dodgy?Well how will you get on here then?!!Thats it..you cant go woman!

Pinkjenny-Ha!Spirited..thats what my friend and I used to say about L and her DS when they screamed throughout baby massage/swimming/baby yoga/bumps and babes et al, whilst all the other babies were smiling serenely...and they still do, whilst our two raise merry hell at every given opportunity...thank God M seems to be a different ball game all together, touch wood..

I have made the caramel croissant desert thingy Nigella does, (I am trying to use up all our food so we dont have to move it)..its bloody fabulous...sod slimming world orange cake and get some of that down you >>passes a bit over to Pinkjenny

Mrsjaffabiffa · 24/09/2007 21:26

Cam, Noooooooooooooooooooooooo you can not go!! Not with out a reliable internet to keep chatting to us.

Oh on the sleeping front after solids. My niece was 5 before she slept through for the first night, thats no fib!!! She had been on solida a good while by then!

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scootermum · 24/09/2007 21:27

Go on tell us Mrs JB, as M spits out medicine and it gets everywhere and Calpol is very tacky when it starts to dry..

cameroonmama · 24/09/2007 22:04

10 years after that it'll be impossible to wake them up in the morning and all they will do is stay in their pits all day and night...

I like a spirited toddler

Less talk of all this cake business. Get your fruit out, gone on I dare yer.

My Calpol has an injectable syringe-like thingy that I just squirt the stuff down J's throat. Bet MrsJB gives it to Jorja with a swig of wine or something, being all French and that

scootermum · 24/09/2007 22:16

I use that, but she still spits it out..would holding the babies' nose till she has to open her mouth to breathe and then shoving it down be frowned apon d'you think?

Well I must turn in..DH is at college and James McAlvoy has just popped round..(only one of the above is really true )

Nighty night

juliewoolie · 25/09/2007 06:13

A had a dream feed at 11 last night and is still asleep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

largeginandtonic · 25/09/2007 08:15

Cant catch up totally will do later, just while it is fresh in my mind... You push the syringe down the side of their mouth and push in to the side, this makes them swallow regardless. I learnt the trick from having to give the dogs medicine Now whos a mean mommy

School run now, grrrrrrrrrrr

Pinkjenny · 25/09/2007 08:33

Sorry I disappeared last night, I went to check on Lexie and the lumps had swelled up, so took her back to A & E, where she was given Piriton and observed for two hours. She's much better this morning, the rash hasn't gone but its calmed down a lot, I've just given her another dose now.

Scoot - I would love to have some of that croissant cake, it looked scrummy, but I still have so much weight to lose and its getting me down now.

Mrs JB - I don't go to class, I've done the diet so many times over the past ten years its etched on my brain x

juliewoolie · 25/09/2007 08:53

PJ poor you I really hope you have a better day today.

Also all the other babes out there with the snuffles - its that time of year again.

Giving medicine when I looked after LO's and we needed to get it in them - awful I know but we used to put the medicine in and put a finger under their chin to keep the mouth closed and therefore they would swallow. This was in the days before the little syringes were around.

Thanks for the P & T advice we are defo sold on it just need to raise the cash to buy it I feel an Ebay purge about to happen

twelveyeargap · 25/09/2007 10:48

A takes medicine if I give it to her in about half a ml to one ml bits. (And tip up her chin to encourage the swallow).

AM - I'm so sorry for you. Don't feel bad about wanting either of the children to be looked after. If you have the option then you should take it. If there's a nursery staff member who J really behaves well for, s/he might consider working at your house on a few of his/her days off to mind him. That way you can observe how he responds and behaves and see what you can change.

madeindevon2 · 25/09/2007 12:09

hi all
sry to all the mums and babes who are poorly.
im gonna ignore all cake comments as ive not 2 st 11 lb to lose to get back to weight i was last year when i married dh..... signed up to WW online and amazed how many more points you get for BFing. anyway. only started yesterday so its gonna be a long haul....
ull all be glad to know freddie is much better and recovering well from the pox. a lot of the scabs have fallen off already.
the onlyprob now is that hes not sleeping thru the night anymore. last night he had 8 oz at bedtime (got rid of that very easily....) the woke at 11.20 2.40 and 5.40 for food. he latches straight on. snaffels furiously until hes had his fill then goes back to bed no worries.
hes 16 weeks....im seriously thinking about trying babyrice tonight. see if he (and dh and i!) gets more sleep that way?
he used to sleep 7 or 8 hours no prob.....

madeindevon2 · 25/09/2007 12:11

re calpol....i was using the syrnge thig and putting at corner of mouth to stop his massive tongue pushing it all back out! he seemed to quite like it tho....the calpol....

madeindevon2 · 25/09/2007 12:12

very of all you getting good nights sleep!!

cameroonmama · 25/09/2007 12:36

who's getting a good nights sleep? Where are they? C'mon fess up..

Apple today LG&T?

katybump · 25/09/2007 13:01

5am alarm call in our house from dd this morning so not much sleep here
hello all ,god i was so sick this time last year lol

twelveyeargap · 25/09/2007 13:20

Well I was feeling pleased about getting from 11pm to 4am for the last week or so and then last night we're back to 3 hourly. Gagh! Suppose it could be the cold messing things up.

AbbyLou · 25/09/2007 13:21

Hello all. Finally managed to get dh off the pc to check in. AM hope you're having a better day today.
R is sleeping so much better during the day now so thanks so much you lot for all the advice you gave me a couple of weeks ago. I now put her to bed in the dark and have to put her sleeping bag on. She then has a little moan and goes off to sleep. She still sleeps for only 45 minutes max but she is doing it more often so is getting somewhere near the right amount of sleep.

AbbyLou · 25/09/2007 13:22

Do get a good night though, both mine go down at 7pm and wake anytime between 6.30 and 7am.

juliewoolie · 25/09/2007 13:27

it was only one night and I am sure he will prob be up all night tonight just to make sure I dont get any ideas of having a second good nights sleep

largeginandtonic · 25/09/2007 14:41

Nah....feed her TYG

Apple it is then Cam, B cant wait!

School run time again in a mo, bloomin day flies by. Have had the man round to survey the quarter, whatever that means. Then i blitzed the house, we will see how long that lasts when all kids get home.

Sorry to hear of all the snot monsters out there, rashes and everything else. Not nice.

ArtistFormerlyKnownAsSOH · 25/09/2007 18:22

Good afternoon everybody.

I'm sorry that it's been so long and I must also apologise that my last visit to MN was such a moany, grumpy one. I seemed to descend into some kind of hellish alternate dimension where M turned from a happy, chilled-out and chubby little smiler into a grizzly, angry and ill screamer. It was the sore throat that was the worst. She screamed whilst trying to feed and sounded hoarse and scratchy. The steroids quickly sorted out the croup side of the virus but it took a good two weeks for her to start to come out of the other side of the rest of the symptoms. She's still a bit under the weather but improving. The postie turned up this morning with the parcel AM- I ripped it out of his hands and ran up the stairs screeching, 'It's here, the drugs have arrived, DH, we have drugs'. Poor old postie climbed back on his little pushbike and pedaled off as fast as his (quite hot) little legs would carry him. Mathilda is currently crashed out on the sofa and has been for about 90 minutes. I feel much better (eyeing up the Medised though), but have a bad and disgustingly productive chest infection.

The virus seems to have coincided with some difficult developmental changes chez SOH. The Tank is becoming exceedingly frustrated in her immobility. She can pivot 360 degrees when lying on the floor- sort of walks round with her legs, using her head as a balancing point but can't work out how to get off this endless plane- cue much frustrated screaming. She seems desperate to be up and moving but her body can't support it- yesterday she was banging her head and arms on the floor in frustration after not being able to shuffle through the sofa, an obstacle in her quest across the sitting room.

I've completely lost my ability to make a decision over her now too. Especially where weaning is concerned I go back and forth as to whether I should be starting her. I see what I think are signs and then start putting it down to the virus. Is she interested in our food? Yes, but she's interested in DH idly scratching his nethers. She just watches everything and yes, she tries to put our food in her mouth, along with my hairbrush, a book, nail clippers, the cat, her own leg etc. She is up every hour in the night feeding which is the biggest thing I suppose but she is less interested in feeding during the day- only every 2-3hrs which is far less than her usual 1.5-2hrs during the day. I keep wondering if she's compensating or maybe she's just recovering from the virus (and on and on ad infinitum). The main problem is the fact that everything says 'wait for 6 months' and includes a perfuntory 'if you must wean after 17 weeks and before 26 then keep it bland you failure'. It just seems to read as 'if you're doing it early it's only for your own sake and your child will end up obese and stupid but you make your own decision'. Gawd I wish I was better at shunning authority.

Other changes are- she can sit unsupported and looks so grown up doing it- can even stop herself falling sideways using the appropriate arm and she can get from sitting unsupported to on her stomach and shuffling along looking for treasure. I haven't entirely decided if the sitting unsupported is a skill or just her weight meaning that she's very grounded in any position. I've also discovered that she likes being thrown in the air and caught more than she likes anything in the world atm. Not so good for my poor ol' chest but it cheers her right up.

I'm glad the last two weeks are over. I don't mean to wish any of my or Mathilda's life away but it shook me to my very core seeing her so poorly and hooked up to wires and nebulisers in the hospital. I did realise sitting there in the children's ward that it's always going to be this way- constant worry. I (nosily) listened to all of the other children being checked over and it hit me that it's not going to be our last visit full of worry. I spotted small blonde child with pea up nose, boy pushed out of tree by jealous sister, urchin with fingers glued to other fingers and far more frightening asthma attacks, fits and broken bones. I watched countless parents being all up and jolly trying to reassure upset children and then every single one of them would leave the cubicle, get round the corner and sag tearfully onto their spouses under the weight of it. What a responsibility. I have spent the past two weeks feeling wholly underqualified to reassure the Tank who just kept gazing tearfully up at me expecting me to fix it all for her. I remember my parents being heroes and never for a moment thought that they might feel as inadequate as I have done recently.

Ooh she's waking up, banging a rattle on the sofa and shouting 'aiaaaiieeeeaaaiiieieeeaaa' like a creaky gate...

Will be back hopefully.