Septermber 07 poppers.....please meet here!

[dal21]

Hi ladies - cannot see a thread for the sept ladies who have popped. Thought I would start one (hope I havent been totally blind and missed one already set up)

we can share our trials and tribulations of our LO's here!

Just a quickie - toddlers rampaging out of control!

Sophus - good to hear from you, hope you are doing ok. Linus's weight gain is fantastic, what a lovely big boy . I'm glad you have got a friend to be at the funeral to help with Linus, I hope the day goes as well as it can

kinki - so delighted you had a better day and glad Dh has been such a help, you sound so much happier! you're not that far from me are you - genuine offer if you fancy a cuppa or change of scenery - I am not a homicidal maniac (cannot vouch for DH though) Hope the party goes really well and you have a great time.

dal - glad your 6 week check went well - what activities are you resuming then

Purple - good to hear from you - another mammoth post - where's your update then Mrs? Hope you, Cerys and the family had a good week.

Have a good weekend all x

Hello all!

PLP - thanks for the dummy feedback. I use it the same for ryan - trying to stretch him out to 3 hours between feeds and to help him settle to sleep occasionally.

Hammer - what activities - well running of course. what other activities are there to resume?? . My hubby is getting chased round the house at the mo but our bub is playing merry havoc today and not settling, but the night is young!

Right - getting nervous about the rugby. may not be able to handle the stress - methinks a power nap may be on the way.

Kinki - hope your party goes well.

Sophus - hugs and thoughts with you.

Have fab evenings all!

Evening all - hope you are all coping with the excitement of the rugby! DH is currently fuming as "that was a try!!!!" apparently!!

Can't believe how many babies there are on this thread - no wonder I could never keep up with the AN threads!!

I'm shattered tonight as we went for a 5 km walk this afternooon in the sunshine, but it also means that Toby slept for 5 hours (with a feed midway through!), so is now wide-awake. Had thought we were getting somewhere, as he was settling around 7pm quite nicely, until 10-11pm (then 2am and then 4am!!!), not really a Claire Verity routine, but one for us - could do without the 4am feed, but he never takes enough milk at 2am to take him through any further - considering giving him some formula then to try and space him out - any thoughts on that, anyone? Want to try him on a bottle soonish, as DD refused one until 9 months as we left it too late at the start to offer her one and I've never really got on with expressing.

Glad to hear that others of you have rampaging toddlers - not quite sure what's got into DD recently, but she's jumping, dancing, anything around the house at neck-breaking speed - tired her out today though, as she cycled the whole 5 km (in bath and asleep before 6pm, which is unheard of for her!!)

Anyway, Kinki - glad to hear you sounding better. I did pop on here yesterday, but didn't manage to post with fighting DD for time on the computer! Hope your party is going well - it is tonight, isn't it?

PLP - still amazed at how well you sound as if you are coping with Cerys and her condition - I'd be a mess - I'm worrying enough about the fact that Toby is still jaundiced at 4 weeks and all the tests have come back normal, so we know it is not a liver problem. And he's putting on weight well (1lb 5 oz in the last 10 days!). Need to take him back to the jaundiced baby clinic next week, if he's still yellow. In answer to your question, nights are dark, that's how I'd describe them at the moment!!! Actually can't really complain, as although he wakes for feeding, he is generally relatively easy to settle again afterwards (although not so last night!).

Dal - hope you still have finger-nails after watching the rugby! Can't believe you're running again already!!!

Poor you Sophus, losing your mother at time like this - big hugs for the funeral next week. Very good plan to bring someone with you for Linus support (sounds like he's doing well though on the weight gain front!).

Nicki - hope Oxford Street was good/fun/not too expensive!!. We're braving a trip to Bath at some point next week, taking DH with me, to help with Toby, pram, 3-yrold and all the shopping bags!!!

Mrs Fish - I remember the Dr Brown;s bottles were recommended when DD was a baby as by far the best for reducing colic symptoms - never tried them though, how are you finding them?

Laksa - hope Bella's thrush clears up quickly? Are you breast-feeding - you sure you've not got it in your breasts? I've had shooting pains in mine and had been told it might be thrush, but a trip to the doctor confirmed what I've also kind of known, that I have huge boobs - good to get a medical diagnosis of it though!!!. Apparently, as my boobs are so huge, they are dragging down, particularly when full of milk and Toby is feeding on them, causing muscular pain and hence the shooting pains. Treatment is a good supportive bra - as if I've been wandering around bra-less recently!!!.

Ok - I think this might have turned into a mammoth post, so I'd better go and mop DH's brow as he's very nervous about the rugby score. Toby bless him seems to have settled himself - not been a happy bunny this evening -hoping it is not the start of colic.

Big hugs to everyone!!!
xxx

PLP & Fettle - I haven't managed to get the Dr Brown bottles yet, am going shopping tomorrow though with DH and without kids so will get some then. Will let you know how they work out. Ben is a lot better with the colief drops though so along with the bottles I am hoping he'll be cured of the wind problem

Well what a disappointing rugby final but we didn't play too well and gave it away really, but we should have has that try.

I'm knackered and have a cracking headache, need my bed but not much point now till I do the next feed at 11ish, I'm hoping he'll settle relatively quickly though so I can get a good 3-4 hours in before the next one

Hello all, hope you enjoyed the rugby? I wasn't even aware it was on lol! We've had our first proper x-factor night since Cerys was born (my waters broke just as it started!) so DD1 is happy now .

LOL Hammer about my update - just as I started typing this morning, Cerys woke up and I never got a chance to get near the computer again during the day! Be prepared for a long post by the way

I don't know what word to use to describe this week but I know I'm knackered! Wednesday - the hv came round and did my pnd check. I scored an 11 and she said that is understandable considering everything that has gone on. I have to say I've been feeling a bit low this week so its not surprising. Apparently they don't 'do' anything unless the score is 12 or above so she just said they'll keep an eye on me for now. She weighed Cerys and she is exactly the same weight as last week (7lbs 10ozs). When Cerys was discharged from S'ton, the surgical nurse (Mel) said not to expect her to put on weight like a 'normal' baby and that they would be happy with her maintaining her weight, as long as she doesn't lose it. Well, we went to see Mel in S'ton on Thursday and she is now concerned ... I'm glad I kept a journal of feeds/moods/general events etc as she read through it all quite closely! She came to the conclusion that Cerys has got silent reflux and prescribed her with baby gaviscon and ranitidine for now. If she doesn't improve, we'll have to try different milk. She started saying we might have to give her thicker milk but I explained that one of the reasons I gave up bf'ing was because I was sure that it was putting a strain on her heart. Mel then said in that case, she might have to have milk with more calories in it - this is only if the gaviscon and ranitidine doesn't work of course!

We got the results from the MCUG and Distal Loopagram (sp) which was where they put the dye in her bladder and bowel and took xrays - her kidneys are fine yay! Also, her bowel is 'low' which means they won't have to go up very far when she has her big operation - this is brilliant news, phew! It seems that the contrast had loosened a load of meconium in the lower part of her bowel that she isn't using and when Mel flushed it out there was loads coming out - I reckon that must have made her uncomfortable in the past week or so, poor thing!

They also checked her saturations (oxygen levels?) and it was 100% so all is well there.

So, a busy day in S'ton really! Not sure if the gaviscon and ranitidine is working really as she has still been a bit grizzly but she is feeding more now. She was averaging about 10-12 ozs of milk per day before as she rarely took more than an ounce to an ounce and a half per feed but now we're working on getting her to take 2-3 ounces per feed. We've only had a couple of bouts of sickness so far too which is good.

In the meantime, Mel left a message on our answerphone (which I only picked up this evening, oops!) saying that Cerys's operation has been scheduled in - its 7th NOVEMBER!!!! She'll go in on 6th for prep and she is seeing the cardiologists that day anyway so it works out well. I'm now getting a bit anxious as they told me it would most likely be mid-november but its only 2 weeks away now !!!

Having done some research on her operation, because it will be on her bottom (literally!), she won't be able to be in an upright position for a while. I've done the naughty thing and let her sleep on her tummy for a while just in case she needs to get used to it after the op. Also, I've read it can help with the reflux in some cases... I'll turn her over when she goes down for the night though...

Phew, I'm even more knackered for typing all that out now!! There's probably more to it than that but I'm so tired I can't think properly.

fettle - poor Toby with his jaundice ((hugs)), I've got a picture of Cerys when she was looking positively tangoed, hope it all goes well at the clinic and that they figure it out. Can't believe you walked 5km, well done!!!

Hammer, I know what you were thinking as far as resuming activities lol (nudge nudge, wink wink!! I have to say that DH and I have managed to get back to 'normal' pretty quickly but then we always were like rabbits!! I don't know if its a rule or something to wait till 6 weeks but we were at it again after 4 weeks, is that bad? (we used protection obviously!).

dal - hope the evening settled for you?

I've managed to type this while the x-factor results are on!! Best finish before the results - Louis has to decide!!!!

PLP xxx

Awww, MrsFish, hope your headache goes soon and that you manage to get some sleep (((hugs))) xx Glad to hear the colief is working Have a good shopping trip tomorrow

By the way, can I ask if anybody would mind being a 'text buddy' to me while we're in hospital? Apparently we'll be staying for the best part of a week and I won't have any internet access all that time and I'd love to be able to keep you all up to date. Hope you don't mind me asking but my mind is racing with preparation planning now! Thanks in advance xx

PLP - I will do the honours if you like, you can email me your number to lisa @ the-fishbowl dot co dot uk

Thanks MrsFish, I'll send it over later this evening - realised I'd best send out an update to all our friends and relatives so I'm in the process of typing it out! (so, you guys got the exclusive!)...

Gotta dash - this reflux thing has turned out to be an absolute nightmare and we're really struggling today . Its not fair that Cerys has to go through this on top of everything else!

Love and hugs, PLP xxx

Evening ladies

Hi Purple - wow loads of news. Sounds like the results of Cerys' scans were really good, so pleased for you. Blimey - the 7th November for her op is really close - hope you are feeling as okay as possible about it all. It sounds like you are well prepared with your research and getting her to sleep on her tummy - sounds very sensible. Sorry to hear about her reflux, hope the gaviscon and ranitidine start to help very soon, and you're right its not fair on top of everything else ((Hugs)) to you and Cerys.

By the way - respect to you and your DH for finding the time and energy to get jiggy - not top of my agenda most nights but my C/section scar and overhang and leaky boobs don't seem to have put DH off, love is definitely blind

Mrs Fish - hope you get the Dr Brown's bottles and find they help - one of my friend's two boys both had quite bad reflux/colic/wind and found them much better than any other bottles.

kinki - hope the party went well and you got mildly and pleasantly pissed in between feeds.

Actually wanted to ask advice about breast shells that someone was mentioning to collect milk from the 'spare' boob when feeding as I often get mega leaking at night and am too dozy to notice until I realise I am soaked - DH doesn't realise how close he came to having a breastmilk hair rinse last night as he snored beside me. I find breast pads rubbish as they migrate out of my bra of their own volition - found one stuck to my arse yesterday morning! Anyway I digress, recommendations for breast shells oh wise ones please!

Wishing you all a quiet night and sleepy babies, special thoughts to Purple - hope Cerys's reflux settles a bit xx

Morning all!

PLP - great news on the progress for cerys, but at the reflux. hope the medicine helps - hopefully she will grow out of it soon.

Fettle - bet your DH was not happy with the rugby outcome then, am glad I decided to go to sleep instead of watching the game as sounds as though it wasnt a great game (oh how motherhood has changed the girl who was normally front row at the pub). And am not quite running yet - gentle trot is a more accurate description. Think it may be a long time before I am up to pre pregnancy speed, but am happy to walk/ jog and get fitness levels back up (anyone else find that pregnancy has shot their fitness levels to bits? how?). Re. the 'other' activities - now they were more of a success.

Kinki - hope your party went well. looking forward to the update.

Re the Dr Brown bottles, i tried them for the first time last night and even though Ryan bought up wind after feeding - he settled for a 4 hour stretch straight after, which he hasnt done for an age, so fingers crossed that is down to using a the new bottle.

Hugs to everyone else - hopey and loopy, thinking of you both.
xx

Hammer - lmao at you saying about finding breasdtpad on your arse My dh is the same, he wanted some 'us' time last night so I humoured him, totally not in the mood though, I feel like I look hideous, two stone overweight and a overhanging jelly belly... can't wait till things start getting back to where they used to be

Well got the Dr Browns bottles two for £10.50 and used them for the two night feeds which seem to cause the most trouble and they seem to have worked, he settled far quicker than he has been doing. Compared to his 7'15am bottle, he is still moaning and groaning and crying and struggling now and he only had 3 ounces Also anyone thinking of trying the dentinox colic drops... don't bother, they taste hideous and I wouldn't want to force them on any baby

Had a great shopping trip yesterday, the big new shopping centre that has opened in Derby is fantastic, managed to find a dress for dh's works do that doesn't make me look like a fat trog this one I must have tried every other one in debenhams on, but with some firm control fat pants on underneath I look ok just a size bigger than I normally am Dh also treated me to a couple of tops and a new leather jacket which I just love to bits from Next
LES - I am so envious of Zach's sleeping habits, its just not fair

Morning All

Wow what a lot to catch up on.

PLP congrats on all the scan results that's fab news and it sounds like you are really well prepared for the 7th so roll on then to make Cerys feel more comfortable and happier. Poor you about the reflux I hope the medicine is now starting to work.

Laska soory to hear about Bella's thrush but hopefully now the medicine will start working and at least you now know why she was crying so you don't really have a crier!.

Dal, Poppy suffers horrendously with wind and is often screaming in pain from it so I'm glad that Ryan is responding well to the Colief drops, I am off to get some today and if that doesn't work then I will try the Dr Brown bottles.

Well Oxford Street was interesting, Pops still hates her Bugaboo so it was very funny when we were in Selfridges and she was screaming her head off to get out that a pregnant lady came up to ask me if I loved my Bug!!. I told her that I did but that Poppy didn't while getting her out and transferring her into the £15 ebay purchase of a sling. After which she was sound asleep for the next 3 hours!!. Really wasn't worth the £900 investment then!! oops don't tell DP.

I didn't get anything but it was actually a really lovely day and on the way back we used the tube and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

Hammerheadshark and Kinki I live by Bromley too so maybe one day when were all feeling a little more human then we should do a little coffee morning in town for all the Kent mumsnetters? Is anyone else around here?

Anyway must go am still at my folks and Poppy is sturing. Have a good day everyone

xxx

Morning ladies,

Hi hopey, glad you're feeling better. Please don't leave the thread again. The very reason we are all here is for support and advice. There are so many of us that at least one person is in tears on any given day anyway so you blend in quite nicely!

Hope your party went well kinki, I wish I could have a cleaning company in to do my house but its so messy at the moment that I'd be too embarrassed to let them through the front door!

Sophus, so sorry you have to go through this, hope the funeral goes ok and you get lots of support from friends and family.

Purplelost, poor little cerys, as if she didn't have enough on her plate without the reflux. You know she will be a real fighter by the time she grows up! Mixed feeding is not happening as Bella refuses to take the bottle! She is a stubborn one. I am hoping that her failure to put on weight last week was due to the thrush as not sure what to do if it isn't as she won't take formula at all!

Dal, glad your 6 week check went well, sounds like you are raring to get back in the saddle...I am a bit nervous about it myself and I only had a first degree tear with one stitch, I am just a big chicken! Weird thing is that I am feeling really horny all of a sudden but am just too scared to actually do the deed

Fettle, I was worried about this as the doctor only gave me nystatin for the baby and when I asked for something to treat me with he said it wasn't necessary. I did a quick search on mumsnet and bought some over the counter daktarin gel which I've been putting on my nipples before every feed, so hopefully i won't reinfect bella and it will clear up for good. Bella seems to have a similar night pattern to Toby, she wakes at 10/11 then 2 then 4, I hate the 4oclock feed as well as sometimes she won't go back to sleep afterwards and we have a wideawake baby till 7 or 8 in the morning!

Mrsfish, glad you had a good shopping trip and the dr browns bottles are working well.

Hammer, nicki, kinki, I am also near bromley so would love to do a kent mumsnet coffee morning some time!

Nicki, you do make me laugh, poppy obviously has cheap taste! Glad your shopping trip went well. How hard is it on the tube with a buggy? I can't imagine ever doing it. I had enough trouble getting into my surgery with the pram until someone told me it was easier to go in backwards if you had to push the door, I felt really silly trying and failing to get through the doors! Unfortuately bella is still a screamer as the thrush has almost cleared and she still has a healthy set of lungs on her.

Well I had a nice weekend with dh, On sat we went shopping for a mattress for our bed. Didn't decide on anything but spent alot of time lying down and getting confused! Has anybody got a memory foam mattress? I like a firm bed and most of the firm ones seem to be 800/1000 pounds plus Are they worth the money?

Then on sunday we went to the baby show in london and picked up some reuseable nappies for when bella is around 6 months...don't think I could handle all the washing at the moment. Also got some of the dr browns bottles as am still trying to persevere with the bottle feeding.

I just wish dh could be around all the time, it's so easy when there are two of you to share the load. I am feeling shaky again this morning at being left alone, I hope this passes soon as I feel so stupid to be scared of being left alone with my own child!

Anyway hope everyone is feeling good and had a nice weekend.

xx

oh, and dh was in a very good mood all weekend due to the fact that he hails from south africa! We had a bit of a fight about what colour babygro bella should be wearing but I won (mainly becos we don't own any green/gold ones) and she wore white!! Not that it did much good...

Hello my lovelies!
We've got a laptop now so I might have more of a chance at keeping in touch!
Not a lot's been going on here, since DH went back to work we've been out once (to register Lucy, apart from Tot's group but that doesn't really count as going out as it's a case of on the bus and off less than 2 minutes later), but I think I'm doing Ok being in the house, it's giving me a feeling of relief knowing that I can't get stuck anywhere with crying baby/screeching toddler, and get angsty with either of them (something I will eventually have to tackle I know!)

I've been busying myself and DD1 with baking and making imaginary cups of tea with her new tea set (amazing present from her aunty, giant teapot from Tesco contains everything you can imagine for playing tea making!)
Have been thinking of maybe walking into town at some point but for now the furthest we make it is the river down the road (which is nice and all but after 5 minutes I just want to fall asleep, far too relaxing!)
DD1's geting to be very good at taking her new punishment (we're now using a naughty corner, as the tap on the hand wasn't working and I never liked having to resort to violence!), but she now says sorry for doing wrong without us even asking! Amazing!

I'm going to get back to the potty training thing soon too, although tackling poo time will be interesting as she's still taking a while to struggle it through (she spent a whole hour the other day pushing and crying, not really knowing whether she was going or if it was just a bit too hard and causing a bit of tummy pain poor little darling) Here I go again, I've got nothing better to talk about than poo!! What a life!

I'm still wearing the same clothes as before I gave birth but they're falling off me! So if anyone's got any clothes going spare.... (you were all probably the size I am now when you were pregnant!)

Sophus: Good luck for the funeral this week, hope it all goes well, my thoughts are with you x

On the Bf subject I've been doing well since my couple of lapses (2 days after she was born DH went off to Tesco at 2am to get some formula due to rather painful splitting etc, it happened with DD1 but I didn't have the choice as we didn't live so close to the town back then, whcih is probably why she didn't gain too much weight after she was born ) but since then I've found it quite easy, I even managed to make a cup of tea whilst feeding DD2 the other day, it's definately helped me to realise that I don't have to be sat down to feed her (doesn't mean I'm making the dinner if she needs feeding though, DH can do that (if pushed!))

DH is having a hard time at work at the moment, his boss is really pushing things now, he's even planning on having him start working random shifts (eve's and wkeneds), the only reason DH doesn't do them (and everyone else around the country in his line of work does) is because he doesn't have an assistant, (meaning that it's easier for him to do his work during the week, when it's not as busy) this doen't seem to bother his boss though, he's still going to try and get him to do it, so DH (along with the majority of the rest of the staff) is now actively looking for another job! Wonder what he's gunna do when all his staff walk out!
Still doesn't help DH at the moment thoguh does it?!

Well, I'm doing my best to be supportive etc but I'm the one who needs a rock to lean on at the moment, any offers?!

Anywho, I've slipped back into those epic posts again! Later people!
xxx

hello!
just so you all know ryan slept from about 10 til 5;30.
this seems terribly early but is in fact a good time as i can sort him, sort me [meaning breakfast shower and dressed lol], then shove ds2 in shower followed by ds1, they get dressd themselves and find breakfast whiolr i sort out dd lol. then somehow we leave for school on time. i agree that after school is a form of punishment for beig bad in a previous life thoiugh lol. 1/2 an hour into half term and i was already wishing they were back at school.
oh and he smiled at me [sooooo cute]

[jumps up and down shouting me! Me!]

I had the h/v test to see how I'm doing emotionally and when it came to 'have you felt like harming yourself' question I replied that I am too lazy busy at the moment, as it would take a lot of planning what with childcare etc lol
luckily she took it in the spirit it was meant in.
I'm really lucky as I don't get depressed easily, I just seem to have a spell, be it an hour or a couple of days and then I'm all better. I can even feel it coming on.
I truly feel for anyone who has it.

I hope sophus is ok.

Hiya, i'm not doing too great mainly i think down to severe sleep deprevation. i've created a thread in the behaviour topic as i wasn't sure where to post but i don't know how to do the link. would really aprreciate any advice any of you can give xx

Good Afternoon everyone! Cant believe how much there was to catch up on from over the weekend!
PLP - Hope all goes well with Cerys' op. it is such alot for you all to be dealing with at such a young age, but from the sounds of it you are taking it all in your stride not sure how i would copeLaksa - glad to hear the thrush is clearing up for little Bella. I too struggle with doors. Had a bit of a row with a young man at McDonalds who was very helpful for the pretty young thing who went in before me and just let the door slam into the pram, with a red face he then opened it for me and went on his way
MrsF - your dress looks lovely, i'm sure you will be the bell of the ball
Dal - I use a dummy too but just to tide him over until he either settles after a feed if he is or until i can get somewhere to actually feed him. He mostly spits it out but it generally works
Arben seems to be a little happier these days, he still has his unsettled period lat evening but overall he is doing really well the bf'ing is going strong still, i express when i can to give him a bottle to keep that up but he is feeding 3-4 hourly and is now going into his cot and mostly sending himself off to sleep rather than us cuddling or feeding him to sleep. Are you guys doing the same ?? Since we stared putting him on his tummy to sleep, he goes off much quicker thank goodness for the sensor pad!!!
Is anyone else having their 6 week check done at 8 weeks to coinside with the first injection?? dont suppose that two weeks matters to much, Arben seems to be putting on weight, he is a porker, and is now smiling at us its amazing what a smile can do for you, brightens up my days and nights no end
I am for those of you brave enough to do the deed already! We haven't attempted it yet, wanted to wait to get the contraception sorted plus i am having my AF at the moment too! I had problems with pain before being pregnant so i am some what dubious about how it will be now after having stitches etcWell hope you are all having a good day and are enjoying our growing LO's, how fst the grow

Oh and added some new photies

loopy's thread

lol at you kelmcd at telling off the young man, you aren't old enough to be saying that surely [you look very young anyway lol]
what lovely pictures.

hi all,
i have been reading but by the time I get caught up then I don't have time to write. have just been out on a walk for emilia is still asleep in pram for a few minutes at least!

sophus - thinking of you is all I can really say.love to you and little one

plp - thinking of you too - what an ordeal you and Cerise are going through. good luck this week if you're still reading.

twit - very jealous of 10-5.30!would kill for one of those though I am getting four hour stretches

kelm - I too am of those who've done deed! Emilia is only 3 weeks but dh is desperate. I am too scared of damaging things, even though I'd like too. I don't even want to look at the moment. Maybe I'm just chicken. I'm sure alcohol would help but I'm still expressing.

As for expressing I'm really sick of it and find it really hard to get time to do it. The less I do it the less milk I have and now I feel like it's hardly worth the effort. Apart from obvious health benefits and the fact I spent £50 on expresser. AARGH?!

Generally feel ok most of the time but odd moments when feel like crying for no reason. Hope this is still normal Does anyone live in or near Oxford? I have to go on Thurs to meet my uncle. Is there anywhere easy to find and park to meet people. Thought about suggesting m&s and hoping it's central - anyone know. Dreading going all that way by myself with Emilia but again I'm probably being irrational in my worry.

Better go as I'm making myself sound like a manic mummy! Maybe I am

love to all
cc

yes its normal, all to do with hormones, being knackered and stressed.
I haven't done the deed yet. Don't want to although am getting leaaned on iyswim. got called a selfish arsehole actually which obviously worked