August/ September 2019 babies #2

[kyles101]

Thread number 2 for our August / September 2019 due date babies.

DS is having a regression on nighttime sleep since moving over to combi - seems to want to wale at 1am whereas before would always go through until 3am...

@yevans just to say you're not alone on this! I swear mines sleep is getting worse not better. I keep getting told to try and not feed him every time he wakes but seriously it's all that will make him stop crying and he ends up sleeping on me most of the night 😣😴

Argh @yevans and @PollyRoe16 !
Whatever works is great. Last night I think DC3 was latched on from 1am to 9:30 am (she usually sleeps unlatched and it starting to be in her sidecar cot more often than not). Not sure as I slept, but every time I half woke and tried to move she renewed her latch emphatically, and she was having none of me getting up in the morning...

Oh @yevans @pollyroe hang in there! You poor things. It'll get better. Nate was unsettled for around three to four weeks I reckon although maybe not as had as you have it, but bad for him. Do whatever works to get them back to sleep and don't listen to anyone telling you otherwise.

I'm another note, Nate had his daycare orientation yesterday. Went to pick him up and he was asleep. What the?!? They told me to go home and come back. Had a two hour nap. Maybe they were pumping chloroform in the sleep room 🤔🤣 is very reassuring they got him to have a sleep. He then did only sleep for 20 mins for the rest of the day, but I'll take that. 😊

@yevans yikes that sounds bloody hard. I have nothing else to say just that I feel so bad for you!

Arthur has come through the sleep regression and now goes down around 7-7.30 every night and wakes around 6.30-7ish. then we play and stuff for an hour and half then he's ready for a nap which I have alongside him haha
But last three days he has been a real fuss pot. Crying loads and he is not really a crying baby. Today I'm certain it's teething so I've gone to buy some teething things and teething gel. Otherwise he was coming off boob after a couple of sips and then willing. Poor wee sausage.
So tried the bonjela teething gel tonight and he seemed a lot happier. I did run my finger over his gums and I'm pretty sure I can feel teeth.

Well done felicity! She's done the rolling the right way @Megan2018. I don't see Arthur ever learning to go tummy to back. He just looks like a skydiver after he rolls from his back to his tummy then gives up and waits for mummy to flip him over haha

It does get better, promise. Hopefully you all get a bit more sleep soon.

We've had a couple of rough nights with hourly wake ups, he was getting a cold and in a lot of reflux pain. But seem to have turned a corner now. We got some new reflux meds as he was vomiting the last ones up immediately. I'm trying not to get too excited but he has had two doses so far and wasn't sick at all yesterday! I didn't think we would find anything that stopped the puke but just wanted him to not be in pain. But a puke free day was absolute bliss.

@horehound for teething, I swear by anbesol liquid. You can get it over the counter or on minor ailments, it absorbs in so lasts longer than a gel. I use it if I have mouth ulcers, it's great stuff!

@stroan well that's a good sign. Fingers crossed for a puke free future!

Ah thanks I will look it up. I just read the bonjela stuff and it says for babies over six months. Whoops. Deffo helped him though. Actually I just put it on him and he fell asleep quickly again. I only got two hours sleep last night (not because of Arthur he slept all the way through except for two feeds. I'm worrying about something else..so annoying) so in gona try nap now!

Thanks everyone, hoping it passes soon. Little monkey is always so happy during the day as well, smiling and cooing at me in the morning as I try and open my burning eyes. Doesn't really seem fair 😂

@stroan what meds have you got now? We've been trying omeprazole since last week with mixed results. We had a few good days but the last two we've had more sick than before

@db92 we've got lansoprazole.

He was on Omeprazole tablets for two weeks and seemed to be getting steadily worse, pain not puke! We had the tablets and he was spitting out or vomiting up all the little granules after I'd given it. Apparently the granules are the important part - it may well have worked if I'd been able to keep the medicine in him!

He was sick after having the meds this morning, so some came back up and he has been a little bit sick today. But still nothing like normal levels, I've only used three muslins. He's also a lot less dribbly which is another nice bonus.

Hope everything's ok @Horehound ? X

Hopefully this is the right meds for him then @stroan . We don't seem to have any pain with his reflux just a hell of a lot of puke! We have another appointment next week so I'll see what they say. Our last appointment there were talks of early weaning but my worry is he'll just sick up the food

@db92 we weaned DD at 23 weeks because of reflux and she didn't puke up a lot of food. She wasn't gaining weight though.

DS is tracking the 75th percentile despite all the puking. I have no idea how. He writhes in pain and arches his back when the meds need adjusting, plus all the puke. He's a happy content little soul mostly though, it's just the evenings that can be hard on him. Another reason why I still don't put him to bed without me, I'd rather cuddle him through the pain than have him away from me.

@stroan @db92 how stressful dealing with reflux too, as if there isn't enough to do as it is. Nate likes a little spew, but nothing like that ☹️

Hope all ok @Horehound. Hate when there's things on my mind that affect sleep as there's not enough of that as it is

Pretty sure Arlo has silent reflux so off to the doctors tomorrow. Has anyone insisted they put them straight onto ranitidine? Having read countless threads of silent reflux I just think the gaviscon isn't going to work for us. He's ebf and hates taking meds so trying to get it into him 6 times a day with a spoon/syringe just isn't going to work - seems easier if he was ff but refuses any bottle I've tried 🤦🏼‍♀️ then there's the probability he'll get constipated and he struggles with getting his wind out at night as it is. Should I just be blunt with the doctor? Everyone is just so sleep deprived, he won't sleep unless he's on me which in the back of my mind I keep thinking how unsafe it is but's it the only way he'll sleep for a decent amount of time.

Sorry for the ramble!

@PollyRoe16 Carl our experience and others I've read/heard of, gaviscon isn't great.
We were prescribed ranitidine but as of last Monday, they're was a recall and stop in production due to some ingredients so it's not been available. The meds we have currently seem to be causing a lot of constipation and haven't been any better than the gaviscon

Thanks for the heads up @db92 what meds are you currently using? Just want to help him and not fix one problem and cause another 😣

He currently has emaprazole 4.2mg per day with nutramigen CMPA milk. Because the reflux has continued the next steps will either be another milk (which I'm not keen on trying as he'd had four different ones already) or early weaning which has its own downfalls I guess.
Definitely stick to your guns with the GP. I completely agree with the solving one problem but causing another. Ellis doesn't get upset with his reflux but gets seriously distressed when trying to poo now he's on this medication. With us I think it may be a case of dealing with the lesser evil, in our case the reflux x

@pollyroe16 I refused gaviscon as DS is EBF and the one day I gave it to him he had horrendous trapped wind and constipation.

If I was prescribed Ranitidine, I would also request a different mediation. We had it, it was amazing and then it was recalled so we are now back to trying new meds. I would be reluctant to go through that if I didn't have to.

I'm back to googling everything 🤦🏼‍♀️ so annoying that the ranitidine seems to have helped so many babies and they've had to recall it.
I just don't think the gaviscon is practical for ebf babies - why can't it be made similar to infacol where it's already liquid and you just squirt it in 😣
He's definitely in pain from it which has gotten worse over the past few weeks and has had a cough since birth that now I've realised must be from the silent reflux but we were told not to worry about it at his 8 week check
Found this list of symptoms and he's literally every single one.

@db92 I might discuss with the GP and HV if they think early weaning might help him maybe when he gets to 5 months. He's already 19lb at 4.5 months but I think he feeds so much because the reflux is hurting him.

It's definitely worth the discussion. He'll be weighed on Tuesday (approx 4.5 months) but at 4 months was 13.4 but was a small baby. E hates his bottles and it can still be a real battle to get milk into him at time's.

If weaning will help your little ones pain and discomfort it's worth a try. My nephew had silent reflux and was much better when he was weaned early at 5 months. It must be as they have something with proper consistency in they're little tummy's and not just milk.

The list you posted is interesting! There's a few symptoms in there that E has always shown but I'd never have thought they were to do with the reflux. Being super alert and good head control from very very early.

@PollyRoe16 we got gaviscon but used it twice and gave up. The best thing for Arthur was time.
If you are using infacol for windy, that can make reflux worse.
We stopped infacol quite a few weeks ago after I tested Arthur without it and he could fart just fine. I noticed his reflux calmed down.
It is horrible though but it will end soon I'm sure. it is horrible though.

@kyles101 and @Geegrl19 yeh I'm ok thanks. It's something to do with my family and it's really sad and I'm just worried about a certain member. It did also affect me and I guess I'm in shock and grieving the more information we get. It's really horrible :( I just let my mind run away with myself the other day and got bloody no sleep!

So we are now at a hotel as our anniversary gift from my parents and last night I think I was in bed by 9pm. Arthur was great and went down at 7.30 and I was woken at 1am by the sound of banging. Some girl had been locked out her room and was absolutely battering the door. Then constantly ringing the person's phone to let her in. It went on for fucking ages but I couldn't do anything in case it woke Arthur. Husband slept through the whole thing. I just thought that's sooo typical with Arthur sleeping so well that I got bloody woken up.
Night two tonight and we are back in the room. I'm looking forward to love island (I know, I know) and then hopefully a better sleep tonight!

@PollyRoe16 oh and we just had friends visit one of which is a midwife and she was talking about early weaning being related to adults later being diagnosed with IBS and other stomach problems. I didn't know that bit maybe you can do research on it?

@Horehound oh no stop using infacol a while ago but at least it was easy to get him to take! Interesting about the early weaning link to ibs was definitely just going to see what the health visitor thought first tbh as I don't want to make things worse or give it him before he's ready.

Arlo hates all bottles too!

Think I might just discuss the emaprazole tomorrow and see what they say at least I won't have to try and give it to him 6 times a day like gaviscon.

Yes the list is interesting, same with us loads of comments of how strong his neck was literally as soon as he was born. Always has hiccups and sneezes.

Just tried to put him down in his cot after he'd been fast asleep on me for a good half an hour. 30 seconds later and he's crying and coughing 😩