August/September 2019 Babies (Due in Sept 19)

[IVEgottheDECAF]

Couldnt see a post natal group so have taken it upon myself to start one! Will obviously still keep up on antenatal also until babies have all arrived!

Shall we start a list of arrivals?

IVEgotheDECAF - DC5 - boy - 07/09/19 - 9lb1oz

@Karigan195 that was my instinct too, to keep the 2 separate, especially as nighttime's are so lovely!!

@Geegrl19 the problem is, he falls asleep on the boob so I don't really see any cues... though maybe I'm confusing tired grizzling for hungry grizzling... hmmm 🤔

@kyles101 they are confusing! Nate gets so tired and whinges through to pretty much the next feed but then I don't know if tired or hunger. Where's the manual!

Argh! Tried putting him down at the first sign of yawning and nothing. Is it possible he just absolutely hates the Moses basket?

I remember renaming the cot the wake up pod with DC2 at one point...
At this stage they are totally helpless- makes good sense that they want to be held and kept safe at all times, they wouldn't stand a chance if you wandered off from them in the forest. But tricky if we live in small groups- works much better if there are loads of people about to hold the baby!

@DustyDoorframes that's the same reason I don't like controlled crying or whatever they call it. It wouldn't make sense for babies not to cry when they need something. So it's still fairly normal for them to want to be held all the time at six weeks?

@kyles101 every baby is different, but yes, in my experience it's totally normal. If there are plenty of adults around it's not even a problem, but it gets tricky when you are alone!
There is decent evidence that leaving very young children to cry has some pretty unpleasant effects on brain development (that's leaving them to cry alone, an infant being comforted but crying anyway is a very different situation brain-wise). That said, every family needs to make their own decisions.

He stops almost instantly when he's picked up, Most he's ever left is a minute or 2 if I'm on the loo or something, and I talk to him but that doesn't really help if he's started. I'm on my own all day, dh doesn't get back til late but I really don't mind cuddling him most of the day, I do struggle with not being able to get on with jobs though. I wish someone would come in and blitz my house. I'm sure it won't be much longer until he can be put down though so I'll just carry on enjoying it for now.

A sling might help @kyles101 , then at least you can move about more easily.
Crying while you pee while talking to him is not leaving him to cry- you are comforting him! And you need to pee!

I'm hopeless at tips for this though, DP works from home, and we are both part time so while he does work more while I'm on mat leave he still does a bit less than full time, so I don't get too stuck under a baby. He's taking the bigger two to his mum's for two nights over half term though (DC3 won't be quite 4 weeks so seems too small for the schlep, especially as she won't have had her jabs yet) so I will be on here weeping and needing tips within minutes no doubt! Or maybe I should just go with and schlep her. Argh!

@DustyDoorframes I do have one actually, it's 50/50 love hate so far! Will give it another go tomorrow , you've inspired me. Re the trip, we took ds for a night in London when he was 4 weeks, not too much bother, and we took my mum to babysit whilst we went out so wouldn't say it's too much bother if you wanted to go... although if you wanted a couple of chill days it's a perfectly valid excuse 😉

Another successful night! Dare I hope she’s cracked it?! Slept 11:30-12:30 then 13:30-7. Bloody hell, the difference in me is amazing

Is anyone else struggling with reflux at all? GP has prescribed gaviscon but not sure it's helping. After most feeds we seem to get quite a bit of milk back up (looks like loads but everyone tells me it's not as much as it seems) and occasionally a projectile fountain.
My first had silent reflux so it actually all coming back up is a new one for me! So far weight gain is good (only a month old currently) but it's stressful seeing so much come back up and so forcefully. I'm BF so as far as I understand, I can't be overfeeding!

@Megan2018 woot!! Whether or not it's a long term thing, enjoy it while it lasts!
@RolyHappyNorrieTagBetty does DC2 seem distressed by bringing up milk? If not, and the weight gain is going well, it might be more of a laundry problem than anything. Both my first two were massive posseters to absolutely no ill effect. We had about a million muslins to hand at all times... DC3 hardly brings anything up which I found disconcerting!
Obviously if it's sore for the baby that's different!

@ RolyHappyNorrieTagBetty we had this at first but now it’s not a problem. I believe mine was due to a fast milk flow (we breast feed too) and as he’s got bigger he’s more able to cope.

@Megan2018 that's great, bet you feel like a new woman!

@DustyDoorframes she's not distressed by it at all, even the huge projectile ones it seems. I on the other hand am! Ok glad it's fairly normal then, I'll keep an eye on weight but otherwise try not to worry. The washing is ridiculous!

@Karigan195 I'm not sure but I might have that issue too- we're having to use nipple shields because of a (hopefully temporary) palate issue so I assumed they would limit fast flow, but she does splutter a bit and occasionally choke. Never really thought about that contributing to the sick. Will attempt some positions that hopefully help reduce the flow a bit. Thank you!

@RolyHappyNorrieTagBetty if she's like my two were then I'm sorry to say you are likely to be coated in curdled milk until about 9 months or more... you get to be a dab hand with a muslin, and dribble bibs help too- at least you are washing four bibs not four outfits. We BF to past two with both, and my babies are all big with big appetites and grow well, so it was just one of those things.

So I stopped infacol three days ago and I thought all was ok. Had a very happy smiley baby. But yesterday afternoon onwards I had a very upset baby and I'm pretty sure he had a very sore tummy. So I have started using infacol again. Does anyone know how you know your baby doesn't need it anymore? And do you gradually reduce it or just stop completely?

He did sleep 11.30 to 3.30 then quick feed and slept again until 06.30 then quick feed and a quick feed 9am now he's sleeping again. Seems like he's slept slot :s does this happen with growth spurts?

@RolyHappyNorrieTagBetty yep my baby does this too. We have a bib on him constantly. Last few days we had barely anything then every feed last night was a vomit. First one was a big one.
Most days it's just possetting and he ain't phased at all by any of it.
But sometimes when he's laying down or propped on a pillow I'm sure I can hear him being sick and swallowing again..is this silent reflux?

@RolyHappyNorrieTagBetty my friend’s baby had awful reflux and it turned out her little one was intolerant to dairy. Maybe cut it out of your diet for a week or two and see if that makes a difference?

What did you do for your first who had silent reflux? I’m pretty sure that’s what mine has at the moment - she has awful wet hiccups and sicky burps but nothing comes up really.

Both of mine had/have reflux. DD didn't gain weight. DS is gaining well but is very distressed on his back and when we can see that sick is coming up.

Gaviscon didn't work for us,made him.horribly constipated so in more pain plus I had to express especially for it. He's on Ranitidine now and is definitely much better especially through the night. I've resigned myself to the puke though. I just walk around feeling faintly damp with milky sick all day. It's lovely.

He must be taking a lot more milk now too as the volume of sick has increased a lot.

@kyles101 DS self settles at night (it's amazing and I'm very lucky!) but has to be within 5cms of me all day long. Other people are allowed to put him down, but not me! I feel like I should be doing more to entertain him but there's no time where he is settled but not feeding or asleep.

Yesterday was really rough. If I so much as moved my arm he woke up and the whole cycle of feeding to sleep had to start again. But, this time really is so short so I'm just enjoying it while he wants me. Poor kid, I'll still be trying to cuddle him to sleep when he's 10!

@horehound if he has colic I would probably keep going with the infacol until about 3-4 months. Or maybe until you notice that he is able to pass wind without much help?

@Stroan did you have a problem getting the ranitidine prescribed. My HV said that doctors are reluctant to give anything for silent reflux and some don’t even believe it exists! 🤦‍♀️

@puglover88 no, but this is my second time with a reflux baby and my doctor is brilliant - he knows that if I say it's bad then it actually is. First time round a different doctor told me that some babies just cry and I needed to accept that. My HV sent me straight back to see a different doctor thankfully.

How are other people doing sleeping arrangements? My DH has been really vocal about not wanting to sleep apart from us but has been getting really bad tension/tiredness headaches so last night I finally persuaded him to sleep in the spare room and I actually found it really relaxing. I didn't have to worry about baby waking dh and could just relax more and watch stuff on my phone while feeding etc But I feel bad that it was more relaxing!

@DustyDoorframes 9 months! I'd better get very friendly with the washing machine.

@Horehound I think so yes, I think it's when the acid gurgles up in the throat but they're not actually sick. That's what happened with my son and it seemed really painful for him. He cried day and night for about 10 months but not sure how much was SR related and how much other things (drs said he was 'high needs')

@Puglover88 actually I cut out dairy and that helped with the silent reflux with my son, I'll try again. Will be very hard to ditch the chocolate which I've been seeing as my daily present for surviving a day with a newborn! We were eventually prescribed ranitidine for his SR as nothing else seemed to fully sort it.