August 2007- More boys than girls? Our beautiful summer babies are arriving at last!

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Thought I'd start a thread to give somewhere for Jem, Washersaurus and Bresha to discuss their little ones and make all those of us waiting impatiently jealous!

Who will be next??????

I'm the same as Gill TT - I have stopped eating biscuits and gone for a few long walks, so not that much, but find i can now get back into a couple of pairs of pre-pregnancy trousers which i'm very pleased at.

now the difficult bit is to make sure i dont slide back towards the biscuit tin. am trying very hard to have an apple or something like that when i feel peckish.

have a ball on 16th november and really dont want to feel podgy at it.

purplerabbits ds2 is sleeping through but just as he started her ds1 has started waking up once or twice a night - seems to be quite a common things for people with a baby and a toddler.

I'm having trouble with the new layout too.

My living room and kitchen is covered in glitter. When I was posting earlier I wasn't watching dd properly and she got it everywhere - even in ds's hair.

TT, shrinkingsagpuss, pink - are we going to organise the rl meet up soon? I'm back to work in 4 weeks

Sorted it out by clicking 'customise talk board' at the top. It's back to normal now.

Hi guys, bad day today. bad, bad, baaad. I really do hope I will get my period soon because if this isn't PMT I'll be worried. I just feel lethargic and fed up, crying at silly things and in no mood to deal with James for the first time. We've run out of coffee and dp has taken my money to work so can't go and get any. Craving chocolate, and I've eaten almost a whole pack of biscuits which I know dp will comment on when he gets home. I desperately need a break but doubt I'll get one.

Last night when dp got home I still ended up looking after James and holding him all evening while he cried and cried for the first time, I don't know what was wrong. I tried changing him, feeding him, putting him down to sleep, winding him, taking his temperature, gave him a dose of baby paracetamol just in case something was hurting him, spent ages walking roung jiggling him and shushing him, trying to distract him with toys etc...nothing worked.

I got symptoms for weeks before I got my period back so don't worry yet.

Does James take a dummy? Calms my ds down sometimes when nothing else works.

Has your dp agreed to do any night feeds this weekend?

James- I'm sorry you're having a bad day. . When dark days strike, it sometimes feels like they are going to last forever - they won't.

Please throw James in the pram and go for a walk or something - it is very therapeutic, and stops you from going stir crazy.

Re: the night time crying - beore anyone mentions the dreaded "c" word - how much sleep had he had in the day? Everyone always say s "C' - but if he had had a bad sleeping day, it might just have been over tiredness. Either way, keep trying the things you are trying if he does it again. I find sometimes that I switch things too quickly - rocking to joggling to swinging etc... - try swinging him for 10 minutes or longer. It feels like an eternity, but it isn't. If he is getting al flustered, try and calm him before offering him milk - if you are both stressed neither will feed well!! What finally got him to sleep? Try that again tonight if he does it again. Good luck honey.

Don't worry about the BMM - we all have them - the trick is recognising them for what they are! Turn the TV on, occupy James, and go and have a cup of tea in another room. Deep breaths and smile, remind yourself of what a good job you are doing. Everyone has BMM's.

Gill- he used to take a dummy but he's not mega keen these days, tends to spit them out after a few seconds. I don't know if dp will take on any night feeds. I'll wake up anyway cos I do as soon as James vaguely stirs. I was up for an hour before James fully woke up last night because he was kicking and sucking his hands for ages before he woke up properly.

Bagpuss- I don't think it was colic, or at least I hope it wasn't. It's the first time he has done any unexplained crying. Yesterday he had loads of sleep during the day, but wouldn't sleep in the evening. I think if anything it probably was overtiredness because when we lifted him up or showed him toys he cried especially hard. Eventually he fell asleep being rocked gently by dp. If Itry to do it, a lot of the time he seems to keep asking for food, even when he's completely full. I think the smell of the milk confuses him.

Cheers for the support guys, I think it's just been a difficult, tiring lonely week really. It must be so much harder for those of you with two or more kids. Here I am, moaning with just one mostly well-behaved one!

Sometimes it's harder with 2 but dd does keep me company and she's quite entertaining (when she's not misbehaving). I used to get lonely when on mat leave with dd. Dh was a shift worker at the time. When on nights I'd see him for an hour or 2 a day and I'd get about half an hour break from dd while I had a shower and ate my dinner before he went to work. When on days he'd get in at 7:30, have dinner and then go straight to bed cos he was so tired after his 12 hour shift.

You're probably right about him being over tired. I reckon another reason he fell asleep on your dp is because you were stressed. I remember one morning when dd was a baby. She had got up at 5am and I couldn't get her to go back to sleep. Dh got in from work at 7am and I was in tears because I was so tired. He took her from me and she was asleep in seconds.

James woke up at 4.47am. I gave dp a poke (as agreed) and asked him if he'd do this feed. He ignored me for a few minutes, until James was crying, then said "I need the loo" obviously hoping that by the time he came back I'd have caved in and be feeding baby.

I didn't, so he came in looking really pissed off, and grumbled about being really tired. I said "yeah, I know what you mean" and he spits "No, you don't! you haven't been up since 7am"

I was speechless for a moment, then pointed out that I've been doing every night feed for the last 11 weeks, and this was the very first time I'd asked him to do a feed.

So he does it, banging everything about so of course I can't sleep even if I wasn't lying there in mute despair. I mean, what am I supposed to say? he obviously just doesn't care about me, everything he agreed to when we argued last week was forgotten, even though I said that if he makes himself completely unnecessary then what's the point in us being together, other than giving me extra cooking and washing to do?

So sorry to hear that banana. I'm not very good with advice when it comes to relationships but try to persevere with making him do the night feeds. He probably thinks that if he makes enough fuss and noise then you'll give in and tell him not to bother. He won't keep it up for too long if he realises that you're not going to give in. I'm sure he does care about you but most men will try to get away with as much as possible when it comes to caring for babies and children (mine does). He's probably more worried about losing out on sleep (and annoyed about it) and isn't thinking about the fact that you're exhausted. I find that men can be quite selfish and don't realise what a difficult job it is to look after children full time. They think all you do is sit around the house watching tv all day.

Try to get him to do it again tonight. After all, he'll get an extra hour in bed.

Thanks Gill, to be honest I'm just using this place for a bit of a rant, because I don't really see my friends much any more. He just needs a kick up the arse!

Anyway, enough moaning! Hope everyone's having a nice weekend, TT your baby pictures are gorgeous, he's just the spitting image of you, isn't he? and conkertree, Struan is adorable, really looks like his dad!

James started off looking a lot like me but he's slowly growing to look more like dp, although neither of us has red hair, and J's is light red. Very cute though! Even has little sandy eyebrows. He's going through a bit of a clingy period right now where he cranes to see me every time he sits with dp or if I put him down for a moment. I suppose they all go through that don't they. It's very flattering but a bit stifling!

JAmes- you are having a tough time. Try and smile at him, thank him sincerely, and say "isn't it lovely the way the baby looks at you and smiles as you feed him" - make him feel like he is doing something special. And I agree with GillL - persevere, even if he makes a fuss.

Good luck tonight.

Evie has chiucked oin me twice in 12 hours now. charming. she coughs so much she throws up. delightful.

Annie, went to Monkey Music with DS from quite early on until he was 3 and a half. It was fab.

TT, how the bfing going now? Have you talked it through with a trained bfing counsellor? This website is really good too:

www.picosearch.com/cgi-bin/ts.pl

My advice would be to sit with your feet up for a couple of days and feed, feed and feed some more.

Your local NCT or La Leche might have a local counsellor who can meet up with you. Be careful who you take bfing advice from though, many people who offer advice aren't trained, like some mw's and health visitors, and many have never bf themselves. I always try to contact a trained bfing counsellor if I'm having problems.

Does he have a feed between 6am & 10am? DD is fed every 3 hours during the day but at the mo she wants feeding every 2and a half day and night. Looked it up on Kellymom and she was having a 3 month growth spurt. Thats lasted a couple of days and she seems back to normal now and is flat out in her carrycot, but its been a tough couple of days. Its easy to think that you don't have enough milk when they are having a growth spurt as all they want is more!

My god! ds slept from 9.30pm to 6am, had a 5 minute breastfeed instead of his usual 6oz bottle, and fell back asleep til 9.30am! All in his cot, too. Blimey! Wonder what brought that on?

wow - go on holiday for a week and the board changes completely and gets very chatty! Had really nice week in lovely cottage in north wales. Fab weather the first night we were there DC stripped off and were in the sea not bad for 4pm in mid October! Didn't get much sleep - even dh commented that ds2 seemed to be feeding non stop - thinking must be a mega growth spurt?

Hello tasha - I thought I was doing well with 3 under 4 (dd - 4, ds1 - 2 and ds2 born 28th Aug). I find I have to get out of the house everyday or would end up with ds1 perminantly glued to naughty step! If you look on local notice boards they'll be loads of groups to go to (did hate these to begin with but there is normally at least 1 other mum to talk to). We go to quite a few music groups (advantage of not having to do too much small talk).

Banana - I was told by paedatrician (sp?!) that drooling at this age isn't teeth but getting ready for solids - it's something about learning to produce the enzymes to digest the food.

Mila - glad I'm not the only one with a couple of massivley explosive nappies a week - never had anything like it normally have to bath him to clean it up. Found disposables won't hold it in at all but cloth nappies tend to stop the worst of it - just have to deal with nappy from hell then (sorry if tmi).

tt - lovely photos. i had a suprise ring with 4 diamonds (one for each member of family) after ds1 born. many brownie points but is raise every chrismas and birthday! keep hinting i need a ring extension - don't want ds2 left out but he'll have none of it!

sorry for spralling message!

That's good. Perhaps he was catching up. Ds did the same last Thursday but I didn't sleep well so I couldn't take advantage of it unfortunately.

Ds is grabbing lots now - mainly my hair. Might have to start putting it up.

Did some proper exercise yesterday - Davina's power of 3. I was absolutely shattered after and feel really stiff today. I might actually stand a chance of losing enough weight to fit into my work clothes in time. I've also started doing weight watchers. I'm not going to the classes but I've been before so I know what to do.

i put on nearly half stone last week - too many fish and chips and wine and chocolate. going to have fun eating until christmas and start diet after that

Sorry about the earlier post, was just trying to catch up and was posting whilst reading iykwim.

Haven't had much time to myself this week as DS was on half-term from pre-school and DD decided to have that growth spurt. Should all be back to normal this week hopefully.

Had friends around for dinner last night. DH put DS to bed at 6.30pm to give us time to get ready. With the early night and clocks changing DS has been up since 5am

Had a really nice night. DD decided to wake up as soon as they got here though so spent all night with her on my lap. As soon as they were leaving she gave them big gummy grins to charm them, then had a feed and went to sleep. DH then decided to have a bit of a "romatic interlude", first time since having lo so I couldn't really refuse. Didn't get to sleep until at least 1am and have been awake since 5am so not feeling my best.

DD is still asleep though. Have fed her twice this morning and both times she has gone straight back to sleep

Must get a move on now as have to take DS to a hallowen party this afternoon and am still in my pyjamas.

James, sorry to hear about DP, have you tried the naughty step?

Has anybody got any tips on getting a baby present from DH, I didn't even get a bunch of flowers?

Naughty step? I'm thinking more like "naughty kick in the goolies" actually...

My DH is cooking at the moment.... Every 5 mminutes he iehter swears, or asks where something is, or asks me for help. Might as well do it myself.

My two were buggered by the clock change too. DD been up since 6 (woke for 2 feeds little cow), and has slept most of the day .
Ds was up at 5.30 (?earllier?) and is very grumpy and crotchety.

DH..well where do I begin?He gave DS sweets at breakfast "because he had seen them in the fridge" Ever hear of responsible parenting?

hi everyone loler thanks for that i really do need to i get panicky every time i think i need to go to the shop cause they are such a handful. ive got dd2 in his cot at the mo crying he has been doing it all day and nothing i do or say will calm him he has started going this everyday im just hoping it wont last long. lo has been great he is taking full 90ml feeds which is the most he has ever taken just need to get him out of my bed now.

i think ive managed to put some pics on, none of lo yet need to get batteries for cam

Hi Girls, well what can i say all you kind words and support are truly amazing, it feels we have been through so much together over the last 11 months and nice to know that you are all there for me, even if its on the other end of the keyboard. well i had a bit of a better week this week and tried to be really postive, ( wont let this beat me) havent started to take the AD's yet as they can make the panic and aneity worse and my DH is away for the next 4 days so am going to start and the weekend. Things seem good at the moment, i tihnk half term has helped as i havent had the added pressure of getting out the door at 8.30 and the dinner/bedtime routine all squezzed in to 3 hours!
We have just had a nice eveing away with a group of friends aswell which has really helped to have a night with adults and not having to worry about feeding evey 3 hours!
tate is doing well the new milk has made him go 3-4 hours now which makes it a bit easier but still waking in the night but only once so cant really complain i guess.

I am busy orgernising my DS1 birthday at the moment, he will be 5 in 2 weeks, he just seems so grown up!

Hope that you are all doing well and will try and post a bit more this week, hey im on my own for 4 days im going to need you girls!

sorry for spelling - am on dh laptop!

Aaw it's great to hear you're doing better, pink! I've been having a moan here too, it's invaluable at times!

Well, James is snuggled next to me in the cosytoes/footmuff off his pushchair for the second night running. Last night we got home and transferred him from his carseat to his cot in it and he slept for aaaages, so we're seeing if we can repeat the magic tonight! He loves it, it's really snuggly.

Good to hear from you pink. Glad you're feeling better.

banana - it's great when you find something that makes them sleep longer

Off out this morning to meet a couple of girls from work so they can see the baby. I'm not taking him to work cos there's insurance forms involved and I don't trust my manager to sort it out so just going to one of my colleague's houses.