The March-ers 2019 - Baby Talk #2

[Angelmiracle]

Thread 2 for all our newborns ❤🤗👣

@sheeni that's good. Steady weight gain is all you need . Can't believe 2 months has passed by already ..it's crazy ..time goes so quick

@shiny888 You can't help the way you feel at the moment so please don't put pressure on yourself by blaming yourself for 'spoiling' your partner's experience. He will still have lots of special memories of your daughter being little. My husband was very difficult after the birth of our first son - I suspected he had postnatal depression but, unlike you, he didn't do anything about it and wouldn't even discuss it - and although it made our relationship difficult for a while and I am sad that he didn't enjoy those first months, it in no way spoiled my enjoyment of my son. Also, your little girl won't have a clue what is going on so please don't feel like she is wondering what her mummy is up to - she will be blissfully unaware at this early stage. Could you change her in a safe place (ie on the floor) so that if a rage comes over you again you can simply walk away for a little bit? Would that help?

@Jenlou1992 mine was 8lbs 15 at birth, dropped 8.5% weight and then was something like 11lbs 12oz at 6.5 weeks. He is quite long I think as he isn't especially chubby! I haven't had him weighed since as the clinic is a faff to get to with a toddler as well. I loved getting DS1 weighed each month and the contact with the HV was useful for me too, so maybe I should make more of an effort...

@Jenlou1992 my baby was 7lb14 at birth she dropped 2.9% of her birth weight. We got her weighted last Wednesday at 8 weeks and she was 10lb12. She has dropped a little on the centile chart but HV said nothing to worry about and that I should get her weighted every 2 weeks now to make sure she stays on track

@Jenlou1992 my dd was 6lb 12oz at birth and was 10lb 4oz last week when she was 12 weeks old

@shiny888 haven't been on for a while but have just seen your posts and just wanted to say that I'm so glad you have reached out both here and with the GP to get some support. It sounds like you coped really well the other night with using the techniques they gave you and as others have said, please don't be discouraged by any set backs. It's really early days and you have taken the first steps which is amazing. Also your DD won't remember any of this so please don't worry about that aspect. Great advice about perhaps changing her on the floor so you can just walk away if it gets too much, she'll be safe and you can take a moment. Sending you hugs xx

@Jenlou1992 George was 7lbs 10oz at birth and was 10lbs 7oz at 8 weeks and 2 days. He's now 10weeks and 2 days so not really sure but will tske him to get weighed at 12weeks just out of curiosity! He seems to be following his percentile just under the 25th. He does seem to already be at the end of his 0-3 stuff almost but too small for 3-6!

Since his jabs last Wednesday he's had loads of poo explosions, I've had to get rid of 5 outfits in the past 3 days as they were just not salvageable. He was having a poo every other day before his jabs since 4weeks and no constipation or anything but yesterday he had 3 poos, one of which was horrendous. This morning he's had one. He doesn't seem ill, no vomiting or temperature and is ok in himself. He's having normal wet nappies where it's wee only so don't think its diarrhoea as such but did anyone else find their little ones had more poos and more poo explosions after the jabs? Dreading every grunt incase its another outfit waste and bath! Also tried the next size up in nappies incase it was that but still had the issue so just think its more than usual and can't be contained!

@shiny888 I've been floating on here the last couple of days trying to catch up. I don't have much else to add to what everyone else is advising but just wanted to say you're amazing and I hope your medication helps you make a breakthrough. Keep trying the coping tactics. You are doing the absolute best by your daughter and your partner and I really do think things will get better for you. You have taken the first step now and we are all here for you xx

@melissa112 M had his jabs yesterday and the nurse warned me that the liquid one was for norovirus etc so he may have really runny poos for the next week or two. So far we've not had anything too bad but it's just a matter of time, it seems! Have you tried soaking the clothes in vanish gold? We've always found that pretty good for stains.

@melissa112 Lois has had very explosive nappies she had her 2nd lot of vaccinations and the Moro iris drops last week.

Top tip for poo stains or any stains for that matter is wash and hang up outside even if the stain is still there the UV light gets rid of stains it doesn’t even need to be sunny they will look like new again very quickly.

Getting him weighed today so will update but we think he's around 10.5lbs on the basis of our measuring at home. He is very nearly 12 weeks and was 7lbs when he was born so pretty similar to @wineandchoccy

@melissa112 also explosive poos here in the last few weeks. He has gone from pooing at least once a day, usually serval times, to sometimes taking days to do a poo and getting all ratty about it until he has done one. But then there was a day last week where he did 3 poos in a day. All of my NCT/mum friends are experiencing the exact same so I think it's normal rather than something to be concerned. We've been using the Tesco oxy stuff in each wash and so far have saved all of his pooey clothes so you could give that a try?

Thanks all for the tips on the poo stains! Never even thought to use a stain remover as didn't know if it was ok on baby's skin but glad to see others have. Do you wash again afterwards or just the once? Also didnt know that about UV rays so will give that a try. He did get some on his sleeping bag and that has washed out but not on his vests but have put them back in the washing basket so will try your tips. Good to know its normal too!

The past week or two I've become really anxious about taking him out alone incase he cries and so have been ringing my mum for her to come everywhere or DP. DP is away with work this week til tomorrow evening so have been out with my mum but otherwise nothing as he does just scream in the pram. Today i got up and just carried him round the streets for 20 mins for some fresh air and although it sounds silly I'm so glad i did! I feel much better for it and he really enjoyed looking at trees then fell asleep. I've got his baby carrier down and for some reason felt i needed DP to confirm I'd got it on right but then realised i can do this. So I've watched all the videos, going to pop him in it round the house for a bit then this evening I'll go for a walk with him. Feel a bit nervous!

Also, for those who formula feed or give a bedtime bottle, do you give the last bottle at the same time each night before bed, and if so, how do you manage it? George generally wants feeding every 4-5 hours and has 6oz so if this was always the case it would be easy. If i feed him for a 10pm bedtime he'll wake around 5am but then every 4-5hours after that doesn't take us back to 10pm the next night if that makes sense. It could end up his last bottle at 8pm then still in bed at 10 as too soon to feed again before bed. Should i then wake him at say 1am? If i dont then he may wake at say 3am but then the every 4-5 hour daytime routine kicks in and his next night bedtime feed will be a different time. I really would like to start a loose routine of bath and then bottle before 10pm bedtime but with him going longer at night than in the day i can't keep the timing consistent

I hope that waffle makes some sort of sense..

@melissa112 my baby is formula fed, she's still going every 2-2.5 hours, she's only taking about 3-4oz every feed though. We tend to give her her last bottle between 10-11. She doesn't wake in the night anymore if she starts to fuss I just put her dummy back in and she falls back to sleep. Told HV this and she said it's fine. Does George have a dummy? Have you tried giving him it when he wakes in the night, or is he generally waking to feed and not comfort suck?

Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this. My LO has a bit of a cold since Monday and had his vaccinations done yesterday as well. He's not been feeding that well for these last three days? Like, I thought his latch was getting better, stronger, he was getting the second letdown finally. Now he gulps down the first, then basically just suckles but I can't see him swallow that much. I actually have to massage the boob while he's drinking, so I get a bit more into him.
Is this normal? Him feeding worse when sick/unwell? Sounds logical, but with the current weather I would expect him to want to drink more, not less...

@kee80 i think it depends when he wakes as to whether he's hungry. Last night i fed him at ten to 9 and put him to bed after sitting him upright for a bit at half 9. He lay awake for a while and fell asleep about 10, woke at 1:30 but not crying so i popped his dummy in and he fell asleep til 5.30. But then if i feed him every say 4 and a bit hours which is when he's hungry then he would be fed at 10, 2:30, then 7 so then not sure what to do about his 10pm bedtime. Would i give another bottle at half 9 but then thats only 2 and a half hours since his last one or put him to bed at 10 anyway in which case he's likely to wake at 1am ish instead of sleeping through which he does do if i feed him just before a 10pm bed? If i did let him sleep and wake at 1 he'd then sleep til 6ish and then his bottle times would change again the next day and his last bottle would be 8 instead of 7. Not sure if I'm making any sense but his times change each day because of his long night sleep (not complaining!) I'm just not sure of a way to get a consistent last bottle at half 9 ish but also to keep him every 4-5 hours in the day as that seems to be when he wants feeding. I'm waffling i know.

@Sheeni sorry, i don't have experience of this as I'm ff. It does make sense that he would feel a bit more under the weather so a bit fussy with feeding after a cold and jabs too. I'm sure if he was really thirsty he'd take more but I'm not experienced enough sorry

Hi everyone dropped off yet again! Just can't get the same phone time atm. Had DDs heart murmur checked last Monday and it's gone thankfully. We were on day 7 of thrush medicine and the paediatrician said it wasn't thrush so we gladly stopped meds as it was upsetting her tummy and such a faff!

She's still sleeping through the night. Usually wakens with a dirty nappy but didn't do one this morning so slept from 12.45am to 11.45am I'm still EBF and always worry if I've enough as she cluster feeds in the evenings so much but she always seems content enough so hopefully no supply issue. She was 10lb5 at 6 weeks and HV coming tomorrow she's 7 weeks now was 8lb8 at birth hope she's gaining well.

Was also wondering about routine I know I shouldn't be complaining when she sleeps so well at night but getting her down before midnight/1am would be great as have to be up for DS going to school!
We're going to Majorca on 17th June and would like to still EBF to save hassle with sterilizing etc. Plus must look about a carrier as she maybe too heavy and warm in the wrap sling? Same concerns as you @melissa112 it's a good idea getting used to it around the house. I watched the video repeatedly for the wrap as it's an Australian one my sister left me.

I have DD in a sleepsuit and 0.2 tog Ergopouch it's made from bamboo and so nice out but wafer thin plus blanket as it's not as hot over here below 20degrees at night.

@shiny888 glad you've got help. Things will start to improve but it is a slow process. I was on Sertraline before becoming pregnant and it took 3 weeks for me to notice the difference with it and with each passing week things improved gradually. My DM had bad PND with DSis and I was 4.5 at the time and I don't even have memories of her not being herself or not doing enough for us etc so your DD will be oblivious try not to worry about that.

@BadBadBeans just referring to your comment about PND lifting around the 6/7 week mark. I have found this being 7 weeks postnatal now it made me worry when the advice states you should feel ok after 2-3 weeks. Tiredness for sure doesn't help.

What postnatal supplements do any of you take? I only recently started folic acid vitamin D and vitamin C but maybe a good multi vitamin would be better.

@melissa112 yeah I get what you mean. I'm not really sure though haha. Maybe try with one at 9.30 he may take a couple of oz and that might keep him going through the night

@Angelmiracle I just started vitamin D three days or so ago, as HV said the sunshine here in UK doesn't create as much of it as is needed and recommended taking a supplement. I bought Pregnacare breastfeeding about a month ago, but took maybe 4 - the iron in those tablets is not good on my guts. I should have known, as I still have boxes of Pregnacare from the "getting pregnant" stage as well as "pregnant" stage.
I might start taking it again though, as my diet is pretty poor right now, trying to avoid gassy and acidic foods reduces the choices down to almost nothing.

I'm not taking any vitamins and none for baby. I asked a midwife early on and she said not necessary. Have others been advised to? I didn't with DS1 as was never told to but don't know if that's still the advice or I had an old fashioned midwife. Actually I have a midwife in the family so will message her as it's been playing on my mind

@Jenfur my midwife said vitamins are not necessary but no harm in taking them. I wasn’t taking any but I was in Asda and they had pregnacare breastfeeding vitamins on offer so I thought I would try them.

@Jenlou1992 Little man was 7 14 when he was born. 11 weeks today and weighed 11lb exactly this morning!

@melissa112 I've been trying to work out the same thing with my little one ha.

We try to give him his last feed about 7pm - he then sleeps till around 3 then goes back to sleep until 7ish.

But tonight for example he's just been screaming with hunger so we've given him a couple of ounces then we'll take him for a bath, then I'll try and give him another ounce or so in bed. Even if he's just eaten not long before I offer him some milk in bed because in my head I think he'll start to associate a bottle in that room with bed (that's probably a load of rubbish but its a nice thought haha)

@melissa112 you could give half a bottle when you want him to go to bed, maybe?

@jenfur I was told to continue taking vitamin D and iron whilst I breast feed and then in our area they say baby should also take vitamin D drops if they're being breast fed and the mum didn't take vitamin D in pregnancy. You can get the drops for a nominal fee in the children's centres here so we got some as we thought they were saying all babies need it but then we read not if I'd taken the specific tablets when I was pregnant.

Hi all,

Little man had his 8 week jabs today at 9w+6. He screamed in a very pissed off way but was so good afterwards. He had his calpol and a feed at 4:30pm and is still sleeping now. We are only doing one middle of the night feed at the moment, with him tending to take his last bottle usually between 5 and 7pm and going down until around 2 or 3am then rising between 5 and 7am.

What I'm finding though is he is having his morning and early afternoon feeds very close together, I'm assuming because he's having such a big gap between his final feed and middle of the night one. I'm just wondering how I can go about spacing out his feeds more evenly, does anyone else have experience of this?

@ballanj I'd like to know also about spacing feeds out. My little girl is 9+2 weeks and she's still going every 2 hours. She will take 4oz one feed then 2 hours later anything between 1.5-3oz. I've tried upping to 5oz to see if she'd go a little longer but she will only take 4.

Is anyone else's baby really fidgety? She seems fine through the day then when it gets to around 6pm she gets really fussy and fidgety, moving her arms and legs about and shaking her head like she's looking for something to suck. If I try and give her a bottle or dummy she just spits it out so know she's not hungry

@kee80 I find my little one is fidgety if he's overtired. He sometimes gets very fidgety when trying to settle down to sleep. When he does that I try to hold him very close and be very repetitive with soothing motions, as in rocking him steadily, making sssssshh noises, patting his bottom etc and all the while not making eye contact. It can take time but it usually works eventually. I've found aswell that LO has lost all interest in his dummy now and would much rather shove his fingers in his mouth when he's tired.