The March-ers 2019 - Baby Talk #2

[Angelmiracle]

Thread 2 for all our newborns ❤🤗👣

@melissa112 just to reassure that they are all different my 1st daughter rolled over a few times then never repeated it again, didn’t crawl until she was 1 year old, walked at 15 months is never ever still now.

Dd2 rolled over at 4 months and almost 6 months is constantly on the move.

@Footymum81 i hope thats the end of the sleep regression for you. I don't want to be a donny downer but we started the sleep regression about a month ago, then had him back in his usual sleep patterns for a week until the last 4 nights when he's been even worse than before! Really hope you've come out the other side now.

@Wineandchoccy that's good to know! Is your DD2 crawling or rolling around to get everywhere? Its like he's bored of rolling and just wants to sit up or stand up all the time now.

What is everyone's favourite toy? Or your babies favourite at the minute? I'm looking for a new one. We got the vtech crawl and something (spins round and has a turtle on top). He absolutely loves it and it was his motivation to finally roll from back to front. He just spends most of the day sat up hitting it to make the turtle move (when the buttons are pressed it spins and rolls on the floor). He then likes nothing more than to put his hand in the way so the turtle gets stuck spinning on his hand. If i move him away he dives for it. So we spend many an hour with him sat between my legs obstructing this poor turtle. Would definitely recommend!

@sheeni how odd!! Although good he went to sleep... But not good about everything else. Yours will only sleep in your arms, won't he? That must be a killer. We've got friends whose baby is the same and they've employed a sleep consultant now to give them some more ideas. Will let you know if they come across anything!

@melissa112 glad you knew what I meant!! Mine also definitely knows how to roll and did it about 6 weeks ago (maybe longer) but then we've only seen evidence of this feat about once a week since, usually by accident, whereas friends babies are flying all over the place showing off that they know how to roll. Ours is focused on crawling and sitting - he's now able to sit up unaided for about 10 seconds and can also move across the room at snails pace by pulling himself on his front. He's also been pulling himself up (only about 10cm off the floor) with the baby gym rings in the last few days. I think they just focus on whatever skill they think is important/interesting so I wouldn't worry about him doing it loads as you know he can do it and now he's focused on the next thing like @sianlouise432 said. Mine likes the Lamaze Firefly toy and ball pit balls atm that he's just realised he can now pick up. George sounds cute with his toy!

@sianlouise432 welcome! :) How have you been getting on these last few months?

@melissa112 she is rolling and also does this odd movement where she pushes her legs and propels herself whilst led on her back like a reverse crawl. DD1 used to just sit in one spot taking it all in but she also talked really early so it will be interesting to see if there is a difference in that as well.

Favourite toy is a o ball or a homemade toy which is a curtain ring with ribbon tied to it which she shakes like mad. She also loves looking at a photo album that I made dd1 with photos of family members it’s amazing how excited she gets when she sees me, dh or my parents

@cardboard33 @melissa112 thanks, ds is 18 weeks born March 26th, a week early. Been getting on okay although I wish I found this thread in the early weeks. He's my first. He suddenly started fighting sleep from 5 weeks. In the bad habit of rocking /bouncing /nursing to sleep now so wondering how I'm going to go forward with teaching him to fall asleep independently. 😊

Just bought a clippy pram thing from mothercare with farmyard animals on it that ds loves. He also really likes the plane guy on his baby Einstein play gym. Similarly to what pp said... he likes ball pit balls too. His absolute favourite though is an orangutan Teddy from IKEA. I know it's not suitable for his age so I supervise him with it, but he loves it so much. Smiles at it more than some friends or family and brings it close for a cuddle!
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@Sianlouise432 sorry I didn’t spot we have a newbie welcome to the group this group has been great even though it’s my 2nd time it’s been so useful to have others to chat to x

@sianlouise432 that was nearly my although he was decided to randomly enter the world at the start of March so he's already 5 months. It's also my first - there's a good mix on this thread of first timers and people who have older kids too. I wouldn't beat yourself up about not teaching him to sleep properly as has he gone through the 4 month sleep regression yet? We found that out baby who was a damn good sleeper (he self settles etc) flipped overnight almost so we feel like we are back to square one anyway!

@cardboard33 its adorable isn't it! Oo i hadn't thought of ball pits! I'll have a google now. Freddie is a firm favourite here too. One of his first toys and seems to be his old faithful that he also goes back to. His face when he realised one of the wings squeaks! Ha i did smile at the image of your LO snailing across the room haha, that's amazing. I guess he's around 22 weeks now?

@Wineandchoccy ha brilliant, love the reverse crawl. That's so sweet that she smiles when she sees pics of you and faces she knows. Defo have to try that one. We have those rings with ribbons on in sensory class and they go down well, may have to invest, or try my hand at one.

@Sianlouise432 this group has been great, its lovely to have you join us. My friend has a baby who wasnt sleeping through, hit the 4 month sleep regression which for her turned out to be the opposite which was nice! I wouldn't worry about the rocking, bouncing etc. In the grand scheme of it they are still so tiny really and it'll all come together. We still have to hold LOs hand if he wakes up to get him back to sleep. He's now started taking his dummy out, throwing it across the crib and then crying for it. So something else we have to do before he'll settle. Not too bad now with a bedside crib, though we've got the sides up since he started rolling, but when he's in his own room i do have thoughts on how it will work unless I lie on the floor holding his hand.. ah that's so cute that he cuddles his teddy!!

Hi all hope everyone's well. Got a lot of catching up to do.
Welcome @Sianlouise432 hope your good.

My little one only really has small rattles, she doesn't have any moving or noisy toys. So after reading some of your posts think today me and DP will go get her a few. Any recommendations?

She's still rolling from front to back a lot but not really noticed her move from back to front. She just cries and gets frustrated so I turn her back.

Anyone's little ones sleep on their stomach? I always put her on her back but she always rolls on her side or her stomach, think that's what she finds the comfiest. She's currently rolled from her next to me and got in my bed and laid bang out on her stomach. It does worry me and I'm always waking in the night turning her but by morning she's back on her stomach. DP told me to leave her if she's comfy and she's strong enough to lift her head and shoulders to breath. What do you think?

Hi @kee80

We have this

www.thetoyshop.com/baby-pre-school/electronic-learning/VTech-Crawl-and-Learn-Bright-Lights-Ball/p/519433

Which is an absolute favourite. It says 6m+ but he loves the sounds, lights and the fact that it rolls. Before that he had no interest in rolling back to front but when he saw that he just started trying
to flip over. We've just bought this too

www.boots.com/skip-hop-follow-bee-crawl-toy-10259022?cm_mmc=bmm-buk-google-ppc--PLAs--(GB:Whoop!)+Skip+Hop-_-(GB:Whoop!)+Boots+Shopping+-+Category+-+Baby+-+Mobile&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9oSmtJ_m4wIVBbTtCh0nwwkHEAQYASABEgI8N_D_BwE

We haven't tried it yet but it looks good. Dont really have anything else that moves. He loves freddie the firefly and we got him a mirror to look at while he does tummy time which is a hit. Other than that just toy that hang off his play mat. Oh and my friend gave me this shaker thing that has beads in which he likes. Can probably make one with rice or pasta in a bottle!

I think if she can roll onto her front then her neck muscles are strong enough that she could get herself out of trouble and move her head if she needed to? Others may know more but I'd say leave her?

Oh that link for the first one doesn't sell it, but i got it in Asda on offer for a tenner a couple of weeks ago

Hi again everyone, thanks for your welcomes! :) in regards to my LO not falling asleep independently, I should probably clarify that we co-sleep. He falls asleep after feeding around 8pm and won't wake up fully until 6am.. He stirs a few times and I stick a boob in his mouth and he goes back to sleep straight away. My issue is with naps really, being stuck in an armchair or getting cramp in my foot from bouncing him for ages 😂. He's such a light sleeper! @cardboard33 @melissa112 as for the sleep regression... He has always been an awful sleeper so I'm not sure if I'd notice. Through some periods he fights sleep more than others but I have yet to see. Just turned 4 months so I'll have to wait and see if he gets worse in the night or something haha.

@melissa112 thanks for those links they look really good. Think I'll have to invest.
Yes I thought that I'll just leave her, she seems comfortable and happy

@Brobot we've had a few few bad nights that sound similar to yours and @melissa112 I got no more than 3 hrs total sleep last night in multiple stints due to her constantly whinging / crying.

@cardboard33 mine flails when she's happy and when she's cranky - it's very cute until she punches you in the face lol.

@melissa112 mine rolled then didn't even attempt it for a couple of weeks. Did it again a couple of days ago and now just props herself onto her side. Her favourite toy is a Doc McStuffins doll that sings (it's my eldest's old doll).

@kee80 if they roll themselves over it's ok to leave them. Mine can roll but if she's unsettled I do put her down on her stomach and just make sure her head is to the side. She soon adjusts herself if she's uncomfortable.

I just can't keep up on here at the moment! J has slept appallingly the last few nights. Last night I fed him at 11, 1, 4 and 6 and maybe one more. I am knackered and heading to bed now but I am heartened to see that others are also experiencing sleep regression and coming out the other side?! I'm so worried because I'm going to need to start weaning him off the breast soon, but I can't imagine having to make up bottles in the night when I am so tired. How do those of you bottle feeding manage at night? I have literally no idea what to do! It's actually making me want to put off my surgery for a few months, but I don't know if that is silly...

Oh! Also we had little tiny bits of fresh red blood in his poo this afternoon, and the poo was a bit mucusy. He seems totally well in himself though. Anyone else had this? I've had it with my older son but that was with a proper poo and I think was due to straining. Wouldn't have thought liquid baby poo could cause a bum bleed - but maybe it can?

I've lost track of this post again. I'm awfully sorry to post and run but I'm just wondering if people could give me advice on my MIL.
I'm really sorry this is an essay but as you can probably tell, I'm mega pissed off.
She's overstepping the line once again and wants to come round to visit 3 times a week (twice in the week and once at the weekend) I don't mind her coming by on the way home from work for half an hour once a week but find anything more a bit straining! I've kept saying that I'm busy but she doesn't seem to get the message.
She's recently had a hysterectomy due to having cervical cancer which had spread to her ovaries. She's been given the all clear and requires no further treatment. Obviously I know she wants to see DS as much as she can which I wouldn't mind apart from the fact she can't keep her opinions or bitchy comments to herself! Today, she came round to ours and we decided that we'd go to the pub and meet both of my parents there. Before we went out, I was wearing a chiffon maxi dress with a slip underneath. She said I suggest you go and get changed. Your dress is see through. I said, no it's fine I've got a slip underneath, it's not as if you can see my knickers, just my legs. She just said, well if you're comfortable going out looking like that! I certainly wouldn't be. As usual it's when DH is out of the room. 🤬 My mum made a passing comment about getting a child seat for the back of her bike.. MIL said "oh. No. I can't allow that! Not after 2 g&t's." We tried to laugh it off and she said. No. That's not acceptable. And got really awkward about it. When it was only a passing comment. She told my dad off atleast 3 times for swearing. When we went home (she had parked at ours) she came in as soon as I opened the front door. Said to DH I suggest you sit down before you fall down and took our son out of his arms. He had had 3 pints and was far from drunk. I'm so so annoyed but feel like a can't approach the situation without her using her situation as an excuse (don't mean to sound like a bitch but that's the way she is!) I said to DH that she's embarrassing and I cringe every time she opens her mouth as she can't take a joke. She moans That she's not invited out and that we do more with my parents than her (we dont!) but she acts like this when we do! Has anyone got any advice?

@Assumeitwassomethingclever I don't really have any advice, just wanted to say sorry you have to deal with that. What a cow.
I'd be tempted to say to DH that I've had enough and might go nuclear soon, so if he wants to avoid that, he should explain to his mother what is and what isn't OK to do and say. And if he doesn't, I'd just tell her myself.

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever my god what a nightmare mother in law! I couldn't deal with that at all! It's such a difficult situation because being honest would likely cause a rift but it seems it might be the only option. She's waaay too opinionated and should know from having kids herself that those comments are unwelcome. She sounds like a dick to be honest 🤣🤣. So either completely blank her when she makes one of her comments until she clicks on that you're not happy or just say "it appears we have differing opinions here" in a jokey fashion. That's my way of dealing with things like that lol. That way you're not being super bitchy but also pointing out that you disagree.

Sorry that I've been off the radar. It's been hectic. I've been traipsing across town every day with Elliot to help my mum with my brother. It is so much harder than we expected because he is refusing help when he needs something and is very restless so we are constantly trying to stop him getting out of the bed as he cant walk by himself and refuses to use the wheelchair! So we end up holding him up while he walks around downstairs until he gets it out of his system and wants back in bed. If we don't let him he gets very aggressive. It's so difficult to watch anyone in such distress let alone my brother. I feel so sorry for him. Also, due to having to get up and go at a moment's notice we had to give Elliot formula yesterday for the first time. I know it will do no harm but it made me sad lol. I resumed normal service when I got home and tbh we were going to have to do it eventually. He took it no problem (the traitor).

He has become a lot more interactive the past week and it's ADORABLE. He "answers" us when we talk to him lol. He is still a lazy little shit who won't roll lol but it sitting up unaided for longer before toppling lol.

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever what a nightmare! I don't really have any advice, my mil can be very opinionated at times as well, my OH tells her when she is and she seems to whiten down a little. Luckily I only have to see her once a week. No way could I put up with seeing her more than that. Yours sounds like a real dick! I think you need to tell your OH to tell her straight about herself. It's not fair on your or your parents by the sound of it!

@Brobot That sounds really hard what your poor brother is going through. Sending hugs

@Sianlouise432 sounds like he's doing good in the night, i sympathise with the day time naps. Since the sleep regression he sleeps so lightly that putting him down in the day is almost impossible. I enjoy the cuddles but its hard when i havent really eaten or drunk during the day. Does he physically fight the naps? We have now gone back to a battle of wills before every nap or sleep. He screams, arches his back and now he can roll he just flips in my arms onto his bell, throws the dummy out, scratches my face and etc etc etc.

@kee80 no problem, happy shopping 😊

@HidCat and @BadBadBeans ah I'm feeling you both on the sleep front. Last night was possibly the worst ever since the newborn days. I don't think any of us got any sleep. I think its partly sleep regression because his sleep patterns are different and definitely lighter now but also the heat. It's too warm in our room for a sleeping bag and he likes to sleep with his feet up holding them in his hands. Problem is that without a sleeping bag when he inevitably lets go of them they thud onto the mattress and wake him. I'm looking forward to cooler weather from next month hopefully. Hope you both have a better night tonight. Oh and we have a perfect prep so although its more faff than bf it isnt too bad to feed in the night.

@BadBadBeans i haven't experienced the blood in poo, how is it today?

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever that sounds horrible. What does your DH think of his mothers antics? 3 visits a week sounds too much too! I don't have much advice as i honestly don't know what I'd do myself other than get DP to have a word.

@Brobot so sorry to hear how tough you're having it. Your poor brother. Must be so hard for everyone. Also sending hugs too. Elliot sounds like he's being a little star, hope his chatting is of some comfort at this time. Xx

Belly not bell!

Thanks everyone. I've asked DH to have a word with her. It's just difficult for me to say no to her as she always turns it round on me being the bad one. So glad you all think it's too much and she's being out of order too!

@melissa112 someone pointed out to me today that J is rolling now and therefore using more energy, thus may be hungrier? I am sure the weather is also a factor. J woke me at 11, 1, 4 and 6 last night but I didn't feed him or pick him up at 4 because he wasn't actually awake - just groaning in his sleep! After 20 mins he went back to sleeping quietly. I had to sit up on my phone while he was groaning though as I could not sleep through it! That is hilarious about George dropping his feet and waking up 😂 Hmm I will definitely look into a perfect prep, thanks. At least by then DH can share in the feeds!!!!

Poo all back to normal today thank you. I think it must have been a little anal fissure due to straining, bless him!

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever yep MIL sounds a right pain! I am not v good at confrontation and agree that DH having a word is a good plan!

@Brobot I'm so sorry that your family is having such a sad time ❤ Keep on trucking; you must be such a comfort to your mum.