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bumperlicious · 05/07/2007 09:06

new thread, sorry for the unimaginative title!

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catc · 05/07/2007 17:17

how much milk does everyones lo take? just reading about 4oz in 4hours my ds has 6oz every 3hours is that ok? or to much Hes quite big he was 10lb 12 at 3 weeks

hollyandalicewillbedogtanian · 05/07/2007 17:19

I don't know catc. I think at this age they will just drink what they want. Your ds isn't that big, mine was 10lb 8 at birth!!

derlor · 05/07/2007 17:19

oh catc, there is a sum you do to work it out for individual babies depending on their weight but my brain has collapsed and i can't remember it - hang on i'll call someone who will know.......

derlor · 05/07/2007 17:23

Ok i'm back , sorry i should know this stuff!!!! the general rule of thumb for formula amounts is 2.5 - 2.7 ounces (oz) per pound (lb) of body weight. SO if he weighs 10lb, he should have roughly 25 - 27oz in a 24-hour period.

trendaverter · 05/07/2007 17:24

Hi Derlor,
No problem, I am happy to be contacted by any of the ladies on the June thread... I am sandi_ford at email dot com

catc · 05/07/2007 17:25

thanks i will work it out lata

daisyandbabybootoo · 05/07/2007 17:25

don't forget to let it cool down before using though BZ.......ouchity ouch

Hi Catc...and welcome to our thread . Sorry to hear your LO has colic, its not a nice thing to have to put up with. Hopefully we can help you to stay sane through it!

Teacher very happy with DS although he lacks confidence in his abilities. I think that might have something to do with his mental mother losing the plot over homework on more than one occasion . Conversely though when it comes to class discussions, they can't get him to shut up and he's always in the middle of anything that's going on. I think I may have scarred him for life

Foxy...you still here? are you sure you're actually pregnant and haven't just been eating too many pies?

lilKelBel · 05/07/2007 17:27

DERLOR!! tell me more about this poss dairy problem. Based on some brief research it seemed to me that lactose intolerance is only inherited. Colief seems to make no difference. Neither does goat milk formula. Soy is apparently not safe???? Should I try it anyway, just to see if it makes a difference?? Why doesn't colief help? HELP!!! please I'm at my wit's end!!!!!!

Total formula per day - 150ml per kg of weight per day. Or in ounces it's 2.5-2.7oz milk per lb per day.

I wish S would drink more than 2.5oz at a time...grrrr

daisyandbabybootoo · 05/07/2007 17:27

just read that BZ is actually attempting to have a life.....i'm in awe, really I am. I've had a friend over for lunch, the BF group for an hour and a half, and parents evening and I'm at the end of my tether and ready to strangle my charming little bleep of a DS

derlor · 05/07/2007 17:28

oh yeah i forgot the cool down bit!! maybe she will sue me like the woman who sued macdonalds for her coffee being too hot!!!
you better duck from one of Foxy's flying pies Daisy!

hollyandalicewillbedogtanian · 05/07/2007 17:29

Yeah foxy, you pie eater!

Glad mystic red ranger is doing well daisy!

derlor · 05/07/2007 17:30

Oh Lilkel, flip that's a LOT of questions for my wee brain!! I'll make tea for the LO's then write it all down for you my love - CALM DOWN DEAR!!!!!

daisyandbabybootoo · 05/07/2007 17:30

A friend of mine is intolerant to all things cow lilkel and he can't even have goat or sheep milk, so bad is his lactose intolerance. He is the only one in his family affected!

hollyandalicewillbedogtanian · 05/07/2007 17:31

Can you get a lactose test from the dr lilkel? If your dd is lactose intolerant you can get soy milk on prescription I think.

lilKelBel · 05/07/2007 17:41

Derlor - thank you - I'll be waiting patiently. Sort of

Guys I told my Gp about it a couple weeks ago and she made this scrunched up doubtful face and said she really doubted it was lactose intolerance and that soy was risky...it's soooo hard getting an appt with her cuz she's popular (normally i love her too) and with DS in tow as well, it's all so tough....should I just go back and tell her I want the test done, flat out? (I can hear how this sounds and if I were hearing it I'd say YES you silly cow but I'd feel so stupid going back there acting like I know more than my dr!!)

foxybrown · 05/07/2007 18:39

Which formula is your lo on Lilkel? Does switching them make a differenct? I've seen a lot on here about Aptimil. I'm a fan of Hipp Organic.

Hi Catc. I'm a gatecrasher! Got lonely on the June, June where's my f**king baby thread so have elbowed my way onto here! Have had babies, so am strictly speaking post-natal. Been post natal for 2.5 years. About the same time I've been pg with this one, it feels like!

I really don't want this baby tonight. Just to spite my mother now.

hollyandalicewillbedogtanian · 05/07/2007 18:59

Loving the thread title foxy, wish we'd have thought of that one sooner! Though we'd have prob got completely flamed for it! You having any sort of action today? That's having baby laboury type action, not the other sort!

Why does my dd decide this week, when I am not in a good mood, to start with "mummy what's that..mummy what's that say..mummy what's that mean"? It's very sweet, but she says it over and over again, it's doing my head in!

derlor · 05/07/2007 19:01

Bumper/Lilkel - i've copied and pasted this info from an article i have on this subject, read it over then we can disect it if you want.

Your chances of suffering from allergy are much higher if allergy 'runs in the family'. A baby born of one allergic parent has a 20-40% chance of being allergic; a baby born of two allergic parents has a 40-60% chance. However this does not mean that a baby born to non-allergic parents can not have any allergies.

Lactose sugar requires the enzyme, lactase, in the gut to digest it. In very rare instances the baby does not produce any lactase. This mens that baby does not produce sufficient lactase to cope with very large feeds. As a result undigested lactose sugar is left in the gut to ferment causing pain (colic) and sometimes diarrhoea. Smaller, more frequent feeds (requiring less lactase to digest), the addition of a lactase supplement (such as Colief) to expressed breast milk, or a lactose free formula milk should solve the problem.

Colicky babies cry continuously, even when they are fed, warm and dry and so are presumably continuously in pain. Assuming that there are no other obvious problems, then food intolerance may be the answer. And for a newborn that can only be an intolerance to the milk it is drinking.

However, colic is not exclusive to bottle fed babies; sensitive breast fed babies can react to cow's milk and other proteins in their mothers' milk so it is important that in this case the mother too follows a strict cows milk free diet.

For bottle fed babies, the problem is most likely to be an allergy to cow's milk proteins. If full time breast feeding is not an option then experiments with alternative formulae (see below) would be in order. However, it is worth noting that around 30% of cow's milk intolerant/allergic babies will also be allergic to soya so it may be better to go for a hydrolised formula.

lilKelBel · 05/07/2007 19:08

Cheers Derlor - my baby's been on Aptamil. We tried Nanny Care (goat) for about 10 days, no marked difference. We tried colief in both.

Anyone have an idea what symptoms of protein sensitivity/allergy/intolerance are?

I would think if S's problem was the lactose then the colief would have made a big difference (not the case).

I would think if S's problem was cow's milk protein then the goat's formula would have made a big difference (not the case).

Sorry for harping on about this - but I know you guys are a good source of info and I feel like I'm just not seeing what the problem is, but one of you will!!!

derlor · 05/07/2007 19:10

oh i love that stage of development Holly!!!!!!!! (it's really frustrating isn't it?)

daisyandbabybootoo · 05/07/2007 19:15

Gaaargrhgrhgh...I knew the feel good thing couldn't last. I have just lost the plot big big time with my DS who seems to be going out of his way to wind me up. I feel like I'm pre-menstrual...but surely not this soon, I was hoping for at least six months AF free with the breast feeding.

I'm bloody knackered and want to sleep for a week and my house looks like there's been a whirlwind through it.

And in spite of the fact that I've just had a huge plate of chicken with mixed salad, potato salad and chips....I'm still farking hungry.....

And the gin in the drinks cabinet is calling out my name.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

daisyandbabybootoo · 05/07/2007 19:17

.....and one of foxy's shoes has just hit me in the head

hollyandalicewillbedogtanian · 05/07/2007 19:22

Glad I'm not the only one with a nightmare child! Alice just bit me, hard! She's driving me bonkers. Luckily William just spewed all over dp, so at least I've had a good laugh today!

Have the gin daisy, it's good for you! The bfing hormones are prob what's making you feel pre menstrual, eat some cake and drink some booze!

hollyandalicewillbedogtanian · 05/07/2007 19:24
derlor · 05/07/2007 19:29

Lilkel this is an interesting article.
You might want ot take this for your GP to read?

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